Vision Lawgiver Sold Out ?

[warlock664]

Well, obviously, the Non-Attending allotment sold quickly (I had one in my "basket", only to have it yanked out when I sent the order, Grrrrr!!!!!); but what I find most surprising is that the "Collect-N-Go" amount is gone, too! 100 pieces IS a small amount, but I didn't expect the interest in this piece to be even THAT high. How many of them are really being bought by collectors, and how many by scalpers hoping to re-sell at a profit? For my part, I really want one to keep my POTA Collection "complete", although I suppose I can live without it. It is interesting to note that so far I have found 4 of them up for pre-sell on ebay (prices range from $299-$499 Buy-It-Now), but none have sold. Oh well, hopefully my RESERVE will come through, or I can pick one up at a decent price after Comic Con. Although I don't collect LOTR pieces, I did pick up the Hooded Rohirrim Bust, hoping to find someone willing to work a trade involving a Vision Lawgiver for it . I WAS able to get the Hellboy piece, the only other "Must Have" on my list, so it ain't all bad!

[DetroitSportsFan]

I bought it, and I don't own any Planet Of The Apes stuff. I just think the statue is cool, but for some reason never bought the regular version. When the Vision Lawgiver came along, it was a no-brainer for me. :hat

[stumpy]

I was able to get it. I was wondering, maybe SS took whats left in stock or 100 in stock and put the red paint on them. Not a bad idea, if they want to get rid of the statues not sold.
As for a trade, I'm sure you'll do fine shopping the Hooded bust around, you'll atleast make some profit selling it, but get on the waitlist.

[DetroitSportsFan]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/sixfootse7en/LawgiverRegular.jpghttp://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/sixfootse7en/LawgiverVision.jpg

I'm not so sure this is the same statue with just some red paint. Look at the bases. Look at the ape's left hand. I think this may be slightly different than the original Lawgiver.

[dstephan]

I think it's just the angle of the photo. As for color - my normal lawgiver has the color of the Vision one, so I'd imagine that the bloody one is a production piece with the added blood.

[Magneticzero]

The scroll looks like it's on the very edge of the table on the Vision version. The regular has the scroll more centered. Very close though.

[Sir Tristram]

Well, they look different to me too and it isn't just the red paint or the angle!

[Protozaius]

Remember the first photo is a PROTOTYPE. Also, if you look more closely at the photo, the prototype has an extra handle on the scroll casing the Lawgiver is holding with his right hand. The handle is not there in the final production version. And the scroll the Lawgiver is holding with his left hand is NOT centered on the desk in the production version either.

I'm sorry, guys but the SDCC exclusive looks to be just the production version with red paint on it. However that simple fact didn't stop me from ordering one bloody statue myself.... :banana :banana :banana

[warlock664]

(I originally posted this in another thread, but thought it might be more suited in this one.)

QUOTE:
"the Lawgiver is the only one of the seven to sell out, and did so in just 40 minutes. I think that the fact it was coming got leaked so early, has kept POTA collectors from picking up the regular version, and they waited for this one."

MWC, while this SEEMS to make sense, I have to disagree that this is what happened. For one thing, yes, the identity of the "Vision Lawgiver" leaked early ( I was actually the one who started the first thread about it, after it was listed in the "arriving in the next 30 days" portion of a March Newsletter). But we didn't know FOR SURE until May 31 what the "Vision Lawgiver" would actually be ( although we had guessed correctly); nor did we know what the edition size would be, or if it was one of the SDCC Exclusives. Also, the original Lawgiver statue had already been available for pre-sell for several months; I can't imagine too many people held off ordering that one to wait on the exclusive, not knowing any of the exact details. At that point, anyone remotely interested in the Lawgiver had probably already ordered one.

Then too, even after seeing the "Vision" statue, I think most die-hard "Apes" fans, given a choice between the two, would select the original statue if they only had room for one or the other in their collection ( after all, the "Vision" statue was only a mirage created by the mutants and appears in one scene of "Beneath", whereas the original statue is depicted in several scenes across the movie series, and would lend itself to more authentic displays). And remember, even though the "Vision" statue is a low edition size piece (100), the original didn't exactly have a huge production run ( 700 or 750, if I'm recalling correctly).

No, I have to conclude that the VAST MAJORITY of these were purchased by dealers, speculators, or collectors with the intention of re-selling for a profit, either to pocket or to help defray the cost of another exclusive. I believe that when they saw the extremely low edition size of 100, they assumed there would be a secondary market for these that would support inflated prices. Already, I have seen 4 of these up for sell on ebay. 2 of them started off with a "Buy-It-Now" of $259.99; after a couple days with no "bites", the sellers have lowered the BIN to $199.99, and as of this time they still haven't sold. (And regarding those 2 auctions, while on the surface they seem to be offered by 2 different sellers, "hugeworm" and "bloodymurray", they have the EXACT SAME layout, wording, and pictures, are both from sellers located in Arlington, Tx, and are obviously being sold by the same person, so it seems the "1 per person" limit hasn't been too difficult to circumvent for scalpers).

I don't think the actual interest in this piece is that great, I just think the perception is that it will command a high price on the secondary market, but I think we'll see the interest in this piece will be lukewarm at best. Myself, I am an "Apes completest", and want one for my collection solely because I love the POTA Movie series. I have the original statue, and through the kindness of a member of this board ( thanks, Tom!), I'm lucky enough to have the "Vision" statue secured, even though I tried (and failed) to get one through Sideshow's "Collect-At-Home" offer. Although it might be unrealistic, I hope that, ultimately, these all find their way into the hands of POTA fans at around the original cost.

[Viking28]

No matter what you cant stop somebody from buying somthing and turn around and sell it. Unless you plan to do a background check and all which would seem to go a little overboard.
Sideshow's policy limits quantities per person, household, credit card, billing address and/or shipping address. I mean that doesnt say nothing about your best friend, parent or whoever cannot purchase one also.
That goes for every other company that has limites on their exclusives, if somebody wants a another one bad enough they will figure away.

[screamingmetal]

that doesnt say nothing about your best friend, parent or whoever cannot purchase one also.

On a somewhat different topic, I was weighing the pros and cons of the First Come, First Serve, and of the Lottery.
One Pro that the First Come/Serve option has is it would be very difficult for a scalper to coordinate his/her family & friends to pick up the exclusives at a very specific order time.

One of the cons of the lottery, is there is plenty of time to coordinate family & friends to place a lot in the lottery, making all of our chances worst then before. But unfortunately, that doesn't prevent them from doing the same on the Wait List.