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abake
07-30-2007, 01:19 PM
Alright folks!
Hot Toys has been good to us, they have given us more alien goodness than we could ever have hoped for:
AvP aliens and predators, Colonial Marines, Ripley, Power Loader, Aliens warrior, P2 preds... the list is mind-boggling!
And we all know that this is only the beginning!

I mean, barring some licensing catastrophe, who doubts that HT will bring us figures from P1, Alien, Alien 3 and AvP2?

So here's our chance to make our voices heard and show HT how we feel about accuracy and what we would like them to achieve.

Here's my contribution in terms of collectibles and movie props to help establish that most elusive look of the original alien.

First off, the Cinemaquette statue, whcih I believe is a wonder:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/DSC09914.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/DSC09910.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/alien3.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/DSC09908.jpg

abake
07-30-2007, 01:27 PM
Next, the Marmit statues!
The famous stooped pose was long held to be the holy grail of alien collectibles:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/alienstoop1.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/P1010013.jpg

And the new statue (also to be had in kit form), surely one of the best and most accurate renditions of Giger's design:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/marmitalien2gl7.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/marmitalienue5.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/marmitalien.jpg

abake
07-30-2007, 01:37 PM
And on to the actual props!

First, what it looked like in all its glory on screen:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/3473367fp54ot2329426328XROQDF23234-.jpg

A famous publicity shot (proportions are probably all screwd up, because it's probably a stunt man and not 7' Bolaji Badejo):

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/alien1d0og9sf.jpg

The original sculpture displayed in Giger's museum in Switzerland:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/0025.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/0001.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/0002.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/0010.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/0008.jpg

abake
07-30-2007, 01:49 PM
And a couple of pics from a fellow collector over at the Hive:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/giger_009.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/giger_008.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/giger_010-1.jpg

Love that detail!

Well, hope you guys have enjoyed and I'm looking forward to more pics from you guys!

figuremasterles
07-30-2007, 03:56 PM
GO ABAKE!!!!!!!
Tell 'em buddy! Give 'em the works!

This is the kind of info they need!

C'mon guys! Let's get behind this! Are you seeing this Hot Toys?
Just take notes and save stills! :D

THIS IS THE GUY WE WANT! :chew

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/alien1d0og9sf.jpg


And this IS Bolaji! Note the wrists for one....
I'd know his shape anywhere!

abake
07-31-2007, 08:06 AM
Come on guys...
Here's your chance to effect the outcome of a brilliant figure!

Sign the petition:

We hereby declare that we want an accurate rendition of the original alien creature as designed and molded by Swiss artist H.R. Giger on the frame of Bolaji Badejo for the Ridley Scott movie Alien.

Signed!


P.S. And if you guys have more pics to add, the more the merrier!

Reinhardt
07-31-2007, 09:17 AM
dude, where does this statue come from??? where can i get one?!?!?




http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/marmitalien2gl7.jpg

pure awesomeness!! and yes, Hot Toys, please read!!!!

twistedfreak
07-31-2007, 09:22 AM
Yes.... We do need this made by Hot Toys. It's my favourite Alien design. WE NEED IT HOT TOYS! :D

abake
07-31-2007, 10:00 AM
It's a Marmit import from Japan, I think the kit goes for about 195 USD.
But you have to order it in Japan, Dan over at the Hive was helping people order that beauty.

Reinhardt
07-31-2007, 12:27 PM
that's a great price! what size? do you have a link to where people on teh hive are ordering? Is Dan the predator guy? i know him briefly from the spawn board, but haven't been there in a while.

thanks abake!

wookster
07-31-2007, 12:54 PM
I heartily agree, the original 'big chap' is the one I want to be done accurately the most. I'd even go so far as to say it kind of needs to look like a tall skinny guy in a suit.

Study the stuff in the Giger museum, study the stuff Bob Burns has, study the 'Gigers Alien' book. That suit only looked 'truly great' and I have to add, when I first saw it as a 12 year old back in 79 after sneaking into the cinema 'freaking terifying' when filmed from the right angle with extreme lighting.

In fact, I think what with it being The A L I E N ! they should do two versions. One completely screen accurate and one with a little ...just a little artistic licence, cos I do like the over skinny ultra bendy CG Alien look as well.
Hell, I just love Aliens...Hot Toys...GIVE US ALL THE ALIENS!

abake
08-01-2007, 09:00 AM
Here's a little rant I posted over at the Hive, but I think it is quite appropiate for this thread...

I feel it should be relatively easy to hide articulation in the design of the original Giger alien suit.
Just look at Triad's new bodies and you can see how double-jointed knees and elbows can be designed to be very unobtrusive yet maintain great range of motion. Or, look at how Hot Toys solved the problem on their Aliens warrior. Even swivel/cut joints can be worked into the upper biceps without interfering with the design. Concerning shoulders, the design allows for ball jointed articulation. The ribcage design also helps to work a good articulation to connect with the midriff. Wrists and ankles should be no problem either, as the design of the suit allows for articulation.
The most difficult part would be (as with any bipedal figure) the hips, but HT has shown how to achieve a decent compromise between articulation and accuracy/looks in their figures.
So, overall, I just don't get why a fully articulated, very movie accurate figure has not been made. Sure, it would cost to design and tool some of that specialized articulation, but then again, people would be willing to pay for a top notch figure.
I mean, we're shelling out in excess of 115USD for a less than accurate HT Aliens warrior, over 200USD for a 20" plastic/resin kit from Marmit, over 1000USD for the Cinemaquette statue...
I just don't get why nobody seems to be willing to do the ultimate Giger Alien figure.
And I really feel it is a matter of having the will to go for it!

Does anybody have contacts to HT reps?

figuremasterles
08-01-2007, 01:17 PM
That's the spirit! Perfect argument!
I want to mention this too, to argue for...

Wrists, double jointed like the ankles and knees, will solve problems.
Hands with rubber wrist coverings will make that whole assembly work.

Waist problem...
Do another rubber oversuit, like the one done for the ALIENS warrior, but rather than stop at the crotch and add stick on legs, extend rubber over the thighs to the knees. That will make the body you mention possible, Abake.

The back tubing...
Make all four the same size, two left and two right, and make the "headrest" rubber also, or incorporated as a part of the whole upper body rubber "suit" so it too can bend around and allow for better body and head poses.

The rest is up to the designers.
Not much else specific to argue for, but I thought, while we were dreaming... :D


And yeah, bring on some Hot Toys contacts! Let's email!

abake
08-01-2007, 03:07 PM
My worry with the rubber covering going all the way over the hips is how it would affect mobility... I don't think rubbers/plastics/polymers/whatever would allow for great posing (ball pose anyone?) and yet be resistant.
I would rather have the open joints, the same way HT have done with the AvP and Aliens figures.

King Darkness
08-01-2007, 03:11 PM
I agree, we need a movie accurate alien!!!!

Make it so HT.

Mooncat
08-01-2007, 03:39 PM
Id prefer too see a hybrid if possible lets wait for AVP 2 Hot Toys

but their probably thinking the same thing !

or maybe not

Im doubting ill pay for another Hot Toys item in the Aliens Aliens2 Aliens3 Aliens4 line

or AvP

Unless it was earth shattering

but then again Im skint this loaders breaking my financial back

figuremasterles
08-01-2007, 03:42 PM
Hey Mooncat, I hear ya! I am so stressed trying to get my Predator 2 guys and all these new thingies, Powerloader, etc., that all this is hypothetical anyway. But, I read you.



My worry with the rubber covering going all the way over the hips is how it would affect mobility... I don't think rubbers/plastics/polymers/whatever would allow for great posing (ball pose anyone?) and yet be resistant.
I would rather have the open joints, the same way HT have done with the AvP and Aliens figures.

Hmmm....
Ball pose....
Hmmm....
The only way an Alien will look like an A L I E N, is with a smoothly contoured abdomen area. It is part and parcel of the entire look. The pelvic thing that has to be worked into the toy to make the seperate legs work, is gonna break all that up.
They can make that, but it needs to be a very tight waist area. I would have to really play around with it to make it work.
I mean, I do like the way the HT Aliens works, and it does almost ball up, but to have that elegant look that the first one had, well...not sure.
Which do you want most? Posability, or looks?
That is indeed the question. The maker-breaker. Especially with this one.

If hips don't bother you, then, that's the answer. I read you on flexing though. It would SUCK for the body to wear out due to extending ball posing. ANd you know, it will be attempted! :D

Anyway, let's get on the horn to these guys! Get some info! Get the ball poses rolling! :rock

abake
08-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Well, I believe HT's solution for the torso and hips is excellent, I think it's just a matter of how they design the "guards" around the femur-hip joint to hide the articulation.
I for one can live with this slight inaccuracy in order to have better poseability.

Looking at the hip are of the Giger design, I think one could keep a lot of detail and really just lose some accuracy because of the joint itself. The other option would be to go back to simple swivel joints, but that would be step back IMHO...

So, yeah, I'm more for poseability over sculpt in this case, 'cause the other route would either mean the rubber suit or a more "statuesque" approach.

A couple of pics to illustrate the point.

The new marmit statue (from some japanes blog):
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/img_406045_13797893_2.jpg

One of edwint's (hope you don't mind) excellent shots/poses:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/IMG_4479.jpg

figuremasterles
08-01-2007, 04:50 PM
Alright...Ok....good points all...
Remember, I am the guy who HATED this HT figure, and then, upon getting it, fell in love with it! So, would I like a 90% or less accurate ALIEN, sure. Most likely. (If they will FIX THE BLOODY LOOSE FOOT PROBLEM! :D)...
And, if they would be so kind, just this one time, to do the Giger tube details, like that WONDERFUL closeup shot you posted, so dearly illustrates....then..ok...screw all that rubber.

Man, I am glad I am not on the development team at Hot Toys....wait a minute! Man! I wish I was!!!! :lol What am I saying!

Anyway... You sold me on giving up on the torso. But, don't expect me to give up on the teeny details so fast this go round. I did with the ALIENS guy. And, five'll get you ten that it's gonna be the same sculptor again...so, we are talking interpretation here. But, in this case, the A L I E N is a tad more documented. So, I just hope Mr. Interpretation, master that he or she is...will at least pay enough heed this go round, and copy, yes, DARE I SAY IT...copy Mr. Hans Rudi Giger's wonderful design elements!
Just ONE time. Just one. ONCE!

You think we can ask for that? :D

OK. My rant is done. I will buy what they make anyway! :rotfl

Thanks for the chance to vent BEFORE they make one, this time!

abake
08-02-2007, 07:19 AM
I hear ya Les!
Man, I really hope HT go for accuracy this time around...

Well, we can always hope, can't we?
Anyway, the rumor was that Ht were going to do the Aliens warrior and then the Alien 3 "dragon". But I just cannot concieve that HT are not going to pursue the original creature.

figuremasterles
08-02-2007, 12:29 PM
I hear ya Les!
Man, I really hope HT go for accuracy this time around...

Well, we can always hope, can't we?
Anyway, the rumor was that Ht were going to do the Aliens warrior and then the Alien 3 "dragon". But I just cannot concieve that HT are not going to pursue the original creature.

I'll take that ALIEN 3 Dragon myself! Interpretations or no, I will get another one to go with my repainted Tsukuda! And no, don't even think about whether I will go through all that repaint again! :lol NO WAY! Just make him look good enough and all bendy-posey, and he will be fine. Details be damned this go round. (there are just too many...)
Basic body shape, posability. That is enough. Oh, head and mouth. That weird mouth...
Actually, the A3 design lends itself quite well to the Hot Toys format.

As for Kane's Son...we shall see...

twistedfreak
08-02-2007, 02:08 PM
All Hot Toys needs to do is hire Les and put him in charge of R&D. Problem solved. :D

Batty
08-02-2007, 07:58 PM
Here are some more Marmit pics.

http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/asaka0704/folder/406045.html?m=lc&p=1

shockwave
08-05-2007, 05:14 AM
This is what I was provided on the Hive please see the link below:

http://www.thehiveforum.net/forum/index.php?topic=4536.0

And here is the actual info regarding NECA producing an 18" ALIEN figure. I hope this link works:

http://www.moviemaniacs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14343&page=3

If it doesn't come up, here is a small section regarding the figure:

this time around fans should know that an A effort is being put on the AVP and should look great. We have a guy over in China and he knows how much time we put into this and want to make the best Aliens and Predator figures ever and I think we will. It's good to be at NECA and man we have such great things still to come. If you like cartoons and sports then McFarlane is the place for you. It will be something to see what people think when you put our Alien and Preds next to theirs. Time will tell and I just so jazzed up we have this. The Alien I'm working on at 18inch is the Alien, Gigers that is you know thew best one ever.

Yep I love articulation. I hope if NECA or HT will consider to have the ALIEN figure to have swival arms and legs. Not just able to bend the elbows.

I guess I am selfish when it comes to that. Thanks. :o

abake
08-09-2007, 03:34 PM
Bump for bump's sake...
We do want this to catch HT's attention, don't we? :D

Don't come complaining later on if HT don't give us the ultimate accurate Giger Alien...

shockwave
08-10-2007, 05:07 AM
Bump for bump's sake...
We do want this to catch HT's attention, don't we? :D

Don't come complaining later on if HT don't give us the ultimate accurate Giger Alien...



Oh yeah I don't want to jinx it sorry...:slap

Now this goes for all the other members too :nono

:D

abake
11-24-2007, 02:29 PM
Figures.com: Are there any plans at this time to make a 1:6 scale Alien Queen figure?

Hot Toys: Originally not, but after receiving huge numbers of inquiries and demands from fans and with the success of 1:6th Power Loader release, we put the 1:6 (Alien Queen) project on the table seriously again...

Ok folks, we've all read the quote, we know what it means...
HOT TOYS LISTENS!

Now I'm thinking about the last mail I sent them, thanking them for sending me a replacement for the Aliens warrior leg, as an aside I asked if they were interested in pursuing figures from the first "Alien" movie. I got a mail back from them saying that they would forward my suggestions to their design team.
So it's time to start sending them queries about Ridley Scott's masterpiece!

Go on... what are you waiting for?
Make yourselves heard!

WE WANT THE NOSTROMO CREW AND GIGER'S ALIEN FULLY MOVIE-ACCURATE! :D

Bardoon
11-24-2007, 04:33 PM
Considering how it's going,I am sure Hot Toys will be getting the Alien and Alien3 licenses to work on figure from there.

I'd predict seeing Alien (or Alien3) figures out by late 2008 or 2009...

Jamal
11-24-2007, 06:29 PM
If theres one thing i want, its the Alien3 creature in Hot Toys form. The other aliens im not too concerned about because i have them in Palisades 16 inch Signature Series

Mr. Fusion
11-24-2007, 11:30 PM
If we (the fans and collectors) can get Hot Toys to make the original Giger Alien, then why can't we have a Lt. Ripley, or Captain Dallas. PARKER! It's unlikely that we would get these, but one can dream.:monkey3

Jamal
11-25-2007, 05:11 AM
Youd need Les to repaint all those heads man trust me lol

Should have put this in the ask Sideshow section or something

abake
11-26-2007, 08:43 AM
You know, I don't think it's unlikely that HT would do a couple of the Nostromo crew, unless they hit on likeness issues from the actors.
What I do want the most though, is for them to give us an accurate Giger alien!
C'mon guys, you know you want it! And you know HT can deliver a posable, accurate alien!

Mr. Fusion
11-27-2007, 10:58 PM
Well, they were able to make some of the marines' likenesses accurate, they just had crappy paint jobs.

And Jamal is right, Les would need to repaint them, anyway.

abake
11-28-2007, 07:33 AM
I think the best likeness in the CM's was Drake. With a repaint he was pretty much spot on.

Reinhardt
11-28-2007, 07:38 AM
I think the best likeness in the CM's was Drake. With a repaint he was pretty much spot on.

you know it!! A Les repaint is all you need!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/neehargupta/pics-055.jpg

but Vasquez is awesome with a Les repaint as well:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/neehargupta/pics-054.jpg

abake
11-28-2007, 08:46 AM
Damn Reiny, your Drake kick all kinds of ass!

Reinhardt
11-28-2007, 09:45 AM
Damn Reiny, your Drake kick all kinds of ass!

Thanks bro!!! Yeah, i kinda like it. :D

Zabrak Nut
12-20-2007, 09:41 PM
I may be late adding to this, but I just wanted to say a few things:
1.) They HAVE to do a Big Chap/GIGER-style ALIEN; it's a given.
2.) When they do, they should have at LEAST one of the Nostromo crew.
3.) Since they made the POWER LOADER, they've pretty much set all collectors over the world up for the QUEEN - if they weren't going to make her before, they're gonna do it now if they don't want some seriously annoying e-mails by the thousands...
4.) When they announce the QUEEN, they're gonna have no choice but to add a battle-damaged (and SLIGHTLY more movie-accurate) Aliens Warrior; and for a non-battle-damaged Version (which we deserve after all these breakage issues - the Brown doesn't necessarily make up for that), they could add new features as well - hand poseability (to allow for that "mantis hand" pose), maybe new foot sculpts (w/ the creatures on the balls of their feet - balance issues aside for the moment), maybe opional slime/drool detail, and, instead of a stand, some kind of plastic hand w/ a hanging attachment (one of the creepiest things from the first two films was how they just seemed to fall from the ceilings and then pull right back up like some horrible giant hand... it's just creepy - in less than a second, you're suspended in the air and gone for good... o_0). I've got a million ideas, and I think HOT TOYS could think of more options to add that would make a re-sculpted release of the ALIENS Warrior more justified - also, I'd REALLY love that "wall-hanging" option on GIGER's ALIEN as well - to reenact when the Thing gets Brett... *shivers quietly*:horror:blissysmi

Zabrak Nut
12-20-2007, 09:45 PM
Imagine if it were sturdy enough to have a 1:6 human figure in its arms? That would look amazing...:D

Jamal
12-20-2007, 09:57 PM
That Drake gives me nightmares it looks so real

abake
12-21-2007, 07:13 AM
Cool ideas Zabrak!

I doubt HT will make a different sculpt of the Aliens warrior though. Too bad, 'cause it's inaccurate as hell! I'm also surprised they didn't do a battle damaged version instead of the brownie, but I guess it'll come, in time.

My main concern now is that they do the Giger alien accurate.
I would be royally pissed off if HT did the "artistic license" bit...

At any rate, we're bound to get a totally awesome figure from NECA next year. Too bad it's in the 18" range, so out of scale with our HT collections, but from the small pics that have surfaced, it looks like a masterpiece.

IrishJedi
12-21-2007, 07:27 AM
Hot Toys seems to be pretty good at listening to collector/fan feedback, so I have to believe we will get our wish when it comes to this.

:duff

Jamal
12-21-2007, 02:50 PM
Cool ideas Zabrak!

I doubt HT will make a different sculpt of the Aliens warrior though. Too bad, 'cause it's inaccurate as hell! I'm also surprised they didn't do a battle damaged version instead of the brownie, but I guess it'll come, in time.

My main concern now is that they do the Giger alien accurate.
I would be royally pissed off if HT did the "artistic license" bit...

At any rate, we're bound to get a totally awesome figure from NECA next year. Too bad it's in the 18" range, so out of scale with our HT collections, but from the small pics that have surfaced, it looks like a masterpiece.

Is NECA producing an 18' Kanes Son next year?

abake
12-21-2007, 03:09 PM
Yeah, it's well into the final production stages, the sculpt is ready and it's all a matter of how much articulation they put into it and how well China does with it...

There was a pic of the WIP sculpt in one of the magazines covering NECA's AvP-R figures, and Kyle (AKA Tankman, headsculptor at NECA) posted a couple of times over at the Hive looking for reference pics.

From the passion this guy has put into this figure, it should be the best and most accurate representation ever of the Giger alien.

My only "complaint" is that it'll be around 18" and not in 1/6 scale. There is a slim chance that NECA will release it in the 7" scale and maybe, just maybe in 1/6 scale... I have told Kyle that he should have his boss look in into a couple of threads here to see the kind of passion we have for these creatures.

Jamal
12-21-2007, 03:11 PM
I wouldnt mind an 18 inch one but im passing untill HT release one.

NECA & McFarlane figures are cheap rubbish imo, the joints go so loose after a while and they wont stand

abake
12-21-2007, 03:20 PM
These figures are not very expensive, and having seen the WIP sculpt, I am certain a lot of people will buy this figure, regardless of when HT releases its version.

I was talking to Kyle the other day and he is so happy with the final result that he said he wishes HT bases their figure off of his sculpt, for accuracy.

I swear I will buy every single version NECA releases of this figure!

Jamal
12-21-2007, 03:47 PM
Well when you hear more let us know, ask for some proto pics if you can

Zabrak Nut
12-21-2007, 09:10 PM
When I saw the production/early sculpt photos, I almost wet myself - it is, bar none, going to be the most accurate represantation of the BIG CHAP yet. From the lips, to the hands, to the torso size and stance, he did an amazing job. I'll definitely get the 18" one - but I'm still going to prefer something from HOT TOYS in 1/6 scale - I don't doubt that they're going to do it, it's just the waiting for the announcement that leaves me in constant doubt!!!! Just like the QUEEEEEEEEN!!!! aaaaaaaaaaahhdahh!)!) I really can't stand it... at least they're getting a P1 figure out - GOD, I can't wait. I think it's funny how, of all the films released, the original Predator still looks the most realistic to me on film. That film, like ALIEN and ALIENS, was just about perfect.
I've ALWAYS loved that crocodile bellow that he yells out before pummelling Schwartzenegar's A$$ to a pulp. AMAZNING... I could watch it over and over again - wait; I already dO!!!! I've seen the ALIEN film the most, though, and've probably seen PRED.1 and ALIENS an equal number of times. They still give me that awesome rush...
Basically I'm awaiting with incredible, unbridled anticipation for SDCC!!! HOT TOYS... more announcements - as long as you know something's coming, TELL US, TELL US!!!!!:monkey4

Sabres21768
12-21-2007, 11:08 PM
Well when you hear more let us know, ask for some proto pics if you can

Oh...you want pics....why didn't you say so? :naughty

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f291/sabres21768/other/necaalien.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f291/sabres21768/other/necaalien1.jpg
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f291/sabres21768/other/necaalien2.jpg

Jamal
12-21-2007, 11:16 PM
That looks pretty damn good man!

ill be holding off for it in HT version though

got any more Sabres?

Sabres21768
12-21-2007, 11:28 PM
Nope, that's all for now dude.

This is a w.i.p. though. It'll have a clear dome with the skull underneath it when finished. :D

Zabrak Nut
12-21-2007, 11:42 PM
It's definitely going to be mind-blowing; I DO fear a bit concerning the production process, as well as seam lines, limited poseability, etc. If it's got a balljointed neck and a bendable tail, though, that's ALMOST all I feel's necessary for truly dynamic poses of any ALIEN...

Still, I will remain loyal to HOT TOYS 'til the end (let's just say they're gonna have to really, really, really, REALLY screw up badly for me to lose faith in them... for instance, if they make a 1:6 Jar Jar Binks and re-release him in funny facial expression variants... am I getting my point across? Granted, if he looked amazingly real...).
So I won't be getting any 1:6 Alien/Predator merchandise that isn't made by them; that pretty much goes for POTC, as well.

Like... I think it was Les, but I'm not positive - commented earlier, GIGER's Alien is better documented than the ALIENS Warrior designs; there were so many variations in Cameron's Warrior prop designs that it's truly hard to tell if something's "completely" inaccurate to the source material... 'though it does seem that they pulled that artistic licensing, still (I can't STAND it... I love the figure, but if the QUEEN comes out, I"m a' rant about getting one more Drone... I got it - they can title it the "Royal Guard"!!! I'm a genious...:D)
AAAAANYwho - ALIEN; I can't see myself worrying too much about BIG CHAP actually coming - if he's not on his way, he better be after the AVP:R figs. arrive.

It's always been obvious that HOT TOYS is working really hard w/ their licenses, and appreciates their fans, so I'm sure they've got a TON of surprises in store for us... (I usually don't like surprises from most companies, but HOT TOYS, w/ their variants and new characters popping out of nowhere... I know their announcement for the BIG CHAP is just gonna pop up randomly...):monkey5

Zabrak Nut
12-21-2007, 11:45 PM
I hope the 'skull' won't be TOO visible - we're definitely going to need that translucent 'film' that covered the dome - you need to be unable to really tell what you're looking at under their - 'cept for the sockets. "This thing's... gotta be HUGE..." - Parker.

Jamal
12-22-2007, 01:02 AM
Yeah dude ill be looking for "Kane's Son" since the only original Alien item i have is the Alien Diorama on Pre order, i sold my Palisades ALIEN Signature Series statue to buy that one.

abake
12-22-2007, 01:33 PM
Kyle's alien is going to rule the world.
Now if only NECA simply transformed his sculpt into a 1/6 scale figure with the poseabilty of their other figures, all would be well with the universe...

Sachiel
12-22-2007, 04:38 PM
Holy Crap! I may actually have to get that even though I don't collect the 18"ers.

abake
12-22-2007, 08:18 PM
Same here dude.
I hope Kyle gets his boss to come take a look over here and the Hive and maybe that'll convince him he should do it in 1/6 scale as well...

Whatever, I'll be getting that in any scale they wish to do it!

Jamal
12-22-2007, 08:41 PM
Id rather it in 18inch scale to be honest, the bigger the better!

Sabres21768
12-23-2007, 12:41 AM
Id rather it in 18inch scale to be honest, the bigger the better!

I'm with you there dude. I think 18" is PERFECT.

I've got a 23" Marmit Alien coming. Bigger is better!! :monkey5

Jamal
12-23-2007, 06:20 AM
Please post pics when you get the Marmit dude

Sabres21768
12-23-2007, 07:58 AM
Please post pics when you get the Marmit dude

Oh, you know I will. :D

Les Walker
12-23-2007, 02:48 PM
The Marmit... :drool

ragacin
12-24-2007, 08:20 AM
The McFarlane one doesn't look too bad with the HT ones, but a better "Big Chap" is definately warranted.

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/278/278731/pages/973027/TheAliens.jpg

Jamal
12-24-2007, 08:50 AM
I sold that McFarlane one man, i was so SICK of it falling over all the time

Rob
12-24-2007, 02:37 PM
All I want is the original ALIEN and the ALIEN3 Alien(My favorite design and ALIEN movie).

Jamal
12-24-2007, 09:49 PM
Anxiously awaiting HT to release a Dog Alien man

drunk_leprechaun
12-24-2007, 10:16 PM
Anxiously awaiting HT to release a Dog Alien man


thatll be the day!:D

Rob
12-25-2007, 05:21 AM
That'd kick ass, man! :rock

I always liked the Dog Alien design and the original design. I don't really care for the Resurrection or AVP Aliens(Too fleshy and B-monster-like).

When it comes to Aliens or Predators, the originals are ALWAYS the best....

Jamal
12-25-2007, 07:56 AM
Alien Res Aliens were Raptors dude lol

PROWL
12-26-2007, 01:31 PM
That'd kick ass, man! :rock

I always liked the Dog Alien design and the original design. I don't really care for the Resurrection or AVP Aliens(Too fleshy and B-monster-like).

When it comes to Aliens or Predators, the originals are ALWAYS the best....

To me the logic of the Resurrection design was that they were genetic freaks caused by the fact that the Queen wasn't "pure".



But the Aliens in AVP were pure BS, of all the flaws in AVP the design of the Aliens was the only one that Really pissed me off.

Rob
12-26-2007, 08:21 PM
True about the Res. Aliens, though I personally like to think A: R didn't happen, since it cheapens Ripley's sacrifice in A3.

But yeah, agreed about the AVP design. Hopefully AVP3 will bring back our beloved Bio-Mech Aliens, and not this B-movie design crap.

Jamal
12-26-2007, 09:53 PM
Wait another 4 years for AVP3 bro

Sabres21768
12-26-2007, 10:44 PM
Well, I've got some (maybe) good news and bad news for ya.

Randy Falk, NECA's Director of Product Development, gave an interview to the guys over at Figures.com.

There was some discussion on the forthcoming 18" Alien, including possible plans for a smaller scale Alien figure.

Unfortunately, the 18" Predator might not see the light of day.

Excerpt:

"Figures.com: In addition to Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem figures, NECA has announced an 18" Alien from the original film. Will the latter be a new sculpt or based on the classic Kenner/Tsukuda designs? When can fans expect to see it hit retail?

Randy Falk (Randy): The 18" Alien is an all-new sculpt that literally took forever. Our lead sculptor, Kyle Windrix, is one of the biggest Alien fans ever and he set out to really nail every detail. There have been a lot of Alien toys before, and some are better then others, but there has never been one that is fully movie accurate in terms of detail or proportions. This is the definitive Alien figure and it will be available this Spring.

Figures.com: Are there plans for figures based on the other Alien and/or Predator movies? Obviously fans would love to see an 18" Predator.

Randy: Hopefully we will offer the original 18" Alien figure in the smaller 7"-8" scale and perhaps an Aliens Warrior. Beyond that I'm not sure. I would loveto see an 18" Predator as much as anyone, but the 18" figures cost a lot to produce and the retail climate along with the economy and rising costs to manufacture make that a long shot for the time being."

Jamal
12-26-2007, 10:46 PM
I thought it was AVP3 NEWS :lol:lol
BARFFF

Reinhardt
01-03-2008, 10:43 AM
thanks for the link Sabres. I'm pretty psyched about the 18" alien. a purchase for me for SURE.

Jamal
01-04-2008, 09:04 AM
Im anxious to see some pics of this man, im sure it will look awesome!

I think the definitive ALIEN piece out right now thats not scarce is that Diorama from ADI

Zabrak Nut
01-05-2008, 09:58 PM
I was about to sell my 18"-ers (the few that I have) until I read the article and saw the beginning sculpt of Kane's Son - THIS WILL BE THE DEFINITIVE ALIEN (at least until/unless HOT TOYS does one - if they decide to go the original route like NECA, I know they can get it spot-on). I figure an 18" ALIEN from NECA and a 1/6 one from HOT TOYS would be pretty amazing. I'd also love to see NECA's take on the WARRIOR from ALIENS, 'though we need to see some BIG CHAP and QUEEN on the market before that happens - just like I'd like to see HOT TOYS do "Royal Guards" to go w/ the QUEEN :o
Speaking of Royalty within the colony, I always figured that the Guard were the Queen's 'brothers', and that the rest were here 'chill'n', if you catch my drift. Also, I liked to think that hormones produced by the Queen produce what I've personally dubbed the "Royal Crest" of the Warriors - w/out this Hive hormone, they have the BIG CHAP design, and (to reitterate the species' perfection), can produce a limited number of offspring on their own. It's a lonely life, though...:D

Jamal
01-06-2008, 04:22 AM
Id like to see the ADI Diorama of the Queen and the Hot Toys Queen before i make my choice. ADI have confirmed that they will have dioramas in the #300 range so im guessing it must be a queen for that price.

Zabrak Nut
01-06-2008, 05:11 PM
For years, I thought we'd never see this culmination of merchandise from these glorious franchises - now I can hardly keep up@*#!)!:monkey4

These really are good times... except for this whole sequel/remake trend. THAT has gone out of control...

I have yet to see AVP:R, but I'm preparing myself for disappointment, just in case...:rolleyes:

usmcchet9296
01-07-2008, 04:38 PM
I have yet to see AVP:R, but I'm preparing myself for disappointment, just in case...:rolleyes:

Prepare yourself well my friend

prepare yourself well..........................

8th wonder
01-07-2008, 06:46 PM
So no original predator (first movie) stuff by NECA at all:monkey2?

Sabres21768
01-07-2008, 11:17 PM
So no original predator (first movie) stuff by NECA at all:monkey2?

Not at the moment anyway. It's a "maybe" for sometime in the future. But, with all the AvP:R hype right now, I wouldn't count on it anytime soon.

I think we're damn lucky that we're getting a Giger Alien! This is one movie, in my honest opinion, that deserves a helluva lot more attention. Especially when it comes to collectibles.

HOORAY FOR NECA AND SIDESHOW!

Jamal
01-08-2008, 12:36 AM
Your right man, theres very little Giger true collectibles out there unless you
fork out for CM or 1:1 scale stuff

abake
01-10-2008, 03:50 PM
I actually think Kyle's sculpt will destroy the Cinemaquette.

Anyway, I can't stress enough how important I feel it is that Hot Toys give us an accurate Giger alien.
They can do it. It's just a matter of them wanting to do it.

shockwave
01-11-2008, 06:57 AM
I actually think Kyle's sculpt will destroy the Cinemaquette.

Anyway, I can't stress enough how important I feel it is that Hot Toys give us an accurate Giger alien.
They can do it. It's just a matter of them wanting to do it.


I can wait till Summer/Fall 2009..:D

Jamal
01-11-2008, 05:21 PM
I actually think Kyle's sculpt will destroy the Cinemaquette.

Anyway, I can't stress enough how important I feel it is that Hot Toys give us an accurate Giger alien.
They can do it. It's just a matter of them wanting to do it.

No way bro :) id love the CM over ANY Alien piece. Including the 1:1 Bust

Thats just me :P
http://www.laespadatoledana.com/images/product/1/large/pl_1_1_10
http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/sdcc2006/images/toynami/toynami01.jpg

ZOMG looks so awesome man!
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/4268/03be5.jpg

abake
01-12-2008, 08:51 AM
Man, I absolutely respect your love for the CM, but as you see more pics of the NECA alien you will understand my enthusiasm.

Of course, these are two very different types of collectible, but I seriously think the NECA piece will blow the CM away in terms of accuracy.

Having said that, I would love to have the cash to own the CM and the new Marmit kit (customized like Sabres' was, of course) just to be able to compare the different sculpts of the three most accurate pieces I've seen of the alien yet :D

Jamal
01-12-2008, 07:02 PM
No worries bro, when NECA'S is released and if it indeed looks better i will agree with you :)

abake
02-15-2008, 09:41 AM
And just because I'm a pain the butt, here's another chance for Hot Toys to peruse the ultimate in alien accuracy.

Batty
02-15-2008, 09:43 AM
:banana:banana:banana:banana

Les Walker
02-15-2008, 09:55 AM
I got the NECA coming, and that covers that. The CM is beautiful to be sure, but way out of my price range, so, I will take the NECA as it is close enough, and in agreement with Abake, is a tad more screen accurate to me. To me.
But both rock.

I am not in a hurry for Hot Toys to make an A L I E N itself, as I want them to commit to an accurate sculpt first. If they redo the ALIENS one in body, and stick on a head, hands and feet, then I will be dissapointed.
I am actually more curious to see what they do with ALIEN 3 now. I assume they will get the cast of ALIEN right, so IF they even try any ALIEN 3 guys, especially that warrior version, then that has my interest.
At the very best, they will surprise me with a great sculpt for an ALIEN. That would be a good day.

We will see. Some day.

I bet we see a Queen announced before we see the first Alien anyway.

abake
02-15-2008, 09:58 AM
Here's what we need HT.
Just design the articulation into it and we're all done!

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/Alien18original.jpg
:rock

Les Walker
02-15-2008, 10:09 AM
Yep. That's Bolaji in the costume. Roaming the corridors of the Nostromo.
Clean and simple. Little or no artistic interpretation needed.

Get to it Hot Toys! :faq