A L I E N THE OFFICIAL MOVIE THREAD

[dekadentdave]

Shouts to Wor-Gar, Father of the behemouth ALIEN and ALIENS thread that suggested we split these up now that we have our own forum. I christen this thread shall be dedicated to all things from Ridley Scott's ground-breaking masterpiece A L I E N.

:duff

[The ill Jedi]

...this thread shall be dedicated to all things from Ridley Scott's ground-breaking masterpiece A L I E N
:rock :rock :rock

Hooray for not having to sift through 400+ pages to find something anymore!! :D

[Batty]

That's a lot of Official Alien and Terminator threads.

[figuremasterles]

I will have a LOT to contribute to this thread soon! :D

[Mudshark]

I will have a LOT to contribute to this thread soon! :D

I am most definitely looking forward to that!
:chew :chew :chew

[abake]

Oh Les, please don't tease us so!

Can't wait to see what you've got in store for us!:D

[abake]

And just to get us started, a couple of looks at our beloved creature:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/giger_002.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/giger_003.jpg

[figuremasterles]

And just to get us started, a couple of looks at our beloved creature:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/giger_002.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/giger_003.jpg

Seeing multiples of the original creature, makes me wonder what it would have been like in ALIENS had they done this....I would have prefered the continuity myself....not that I dislike the boneyheads....I just prefer Giger's design better. :D
Those full sized guys ROCK! :rock

[metaphorge]

C'mon Hot Toys... Space Suit Ripley & Kane.

[Mudshark]

C'mon Hot Toys... Space Suit Ripley & Kane.

I second that! Space Suit Rips is a MUST. They could do Kane in his space suit too, with an alternate melted faceplate for the helmet and a variant head sculpt with face hugger attached. And for an exclusive... Chestburster Kane!!! :monkey5

[galactiboy]

A Kane Space Suit would rock! That would be a must have figure for me :rock

[figuremasterles]

Oh Les, please don't tease us so!

Can't wait to see what you've got in store for us!:D

I do not tease my good friend! I regret not having time to do more with my ALIEN figures! But, I will. I just can't wait to get to them again.
And, I do hope we see all the characters from ALIEN in HT form. Spacesuits versions would rule too!
Truthfully, just having a Parker and Brett set would be too damn cool!

"Back to the old freezerinos!" :D

[dekadentdave]

And, I do hope we see all the characters from ALIEN in HT form. Spacesuits versions would rule too!
Truthfully, just having a Parker and Brett set would be too damn cool!


Riiiight. :D

[Batty]

They could do Kane in his space suit too, with an alternate melted faceplate for the helmet and a variant head sculpt with face hugger attached. And for an exclusive... Chestburster Kane!!! :monkey5
That would be the ultimate! :rock

Right now I would take any HT figures from ALIEN. Especially a Giger Alien. Anyone think we'll ever see them made?

[dekadentdave]

Riiiight. :D

[Batty]

Can't you say anything besides "right"?

[dekadentdave]

Riiiiiiiight. :D

[Batty]

:lol :lol :lol

Well, I guess I know what I'll be watching later tonight.

[dekadentdave]

Riiiiiight. :D

[Midnight Joker]

i think i have this somewhere on a hard drive!?got it off the net as an xvid rip!?never did watch it!?will try and find and watch!?hehe!!....just askn...

[Wor-Gar]

Da-Da!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/alien_shot6l.jpg

Hug me... I love you.


:D

[pjam]

:lol Baby's got back! :rotfl

[figuremasterles]

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/Wor-Gar/alien_shot6l.jpg



The classic BALL POSE! :rock
An A L I E N exclusive!

Thanks Worgar!

[pjam]

Sigourney's Screen test...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6Jbgne1yX0

[abake]

Just wanted to share this fantastic collectible from The Hive, a new Marmit alien statue:

First a picture of the unassembled kit (courtesy of Dan at the Hive)
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/marmitalien.jpg

And the finished statue
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/marmitalien1mb7.jpg

Looking closely at the sculpt, it becomes immediately apparent that articulation could be built into the sculpt without interfering too much with the design.
I truly hope HT take this into account when they go into designing a fully articulated figure of the Alien xenomorph.

As a matter of fact, they should just take this sculpt are reverse engineer articulation into it! :D

[Wor-Gar]

That's really cool. Is it 1/6th?

[galactiboy]

That is a great looking model... now if only HT will make our dream of this figure come true!!!

Wonder if they'll go with an Alien or Alien3 figure first?

[MaulFan]

That is a great looking model... now if only HT will make our dream of this figure come true!!!

Wonder if they'll go with an Alien or Alien3 figure first?

I'm THINKING that they're hard at work trying to accomplish an Aliens Queen, and I say this because the Aliens line started pretty full speed, but now, over the span of a year, we've only see 1 Warrior figure and the PL, which is an enormous accomplishment and badass, but knowing the type of momentum they put into things, I have a feeling something bigger than another warrior is in development there, but it could also be that efforts are in the works to secure licenses they don't yet have.

[figuremasterles]

NOW THAT IS AN ALIEN!

Just make that into 1/6, Hot Toys! EXACTLY! Don't alter or interpret. Just make that!

Amazing figure kit!

[abake]

That's really cool. Is it 1/6th?

No, it's bigger, I think around 20".

[figuremasterles]

Can you imagine that posable? WOW! :monkey5

[abake]

I have my fingers firmly crossed Les!

[abake]

More news:

Kyle Windrix, head sculptor at NECA and former sculptor at McFarlane (he sculpted the Alien and Predator prototype boxed set) has stated that NECA will release an 18" figure of the alien!

Now, I'm trying to sort out whether he means an 18" figure of an alien from AvP2 (NECA's got the license) or an 18" figure of the original Giger alien...

[Reinhardt]

More news:

Kyle Windrix, head sculptor at NECA and former sculptor at McFarlane (he sculpted the Alien and Predator prototype boxed set) has stated that NECA will release an 18" figure of the alien!

Now, I'm trying to sort out whether he means an 18" figure of an alien from AvP2 (NECA's got the license) or an 18" figure of the original Giger alien...

original Alien - OMG... it seems more likely that it will be of the AVP2 alien... but let's see what happens!

[abake]

Here's a quick reminder of what Tankman's AKA Kyle's original sculpt for the MM5 boxed set looked like:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/abake_2007/1023662305205634354.jpg

It was a thing of beauty IMHO.

[Reinhardt]

agreed... and even though the production of it came out different, i still love that boxset.

[Johnny Utah]

He's sculpting Giger's Alien.Tom Woodruff himself said they were glad NECA has the licence now,and he also hopes NECA will do a proper version of the Dog Alien.I love that design.

[abake]

That is great news!
Man, I can't wait to see what this baby looks like.

[Batty]

I was going through some magazines I bought as a kid and found these. Magazines are another reminder of the days before the internet.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5848/capturedata78bf5.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7914/capturedata1315377ic5.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7708/capturedata7556053hp2.png (http://imageshack.us)

[abake]

Awesome pics Batty!
Are there any more interesting/informative pics inside that you could share?

[shockwave]

Awesome pics Batty!
Are there any more interesting/informative pics inside that you could share?

Yes please any pics of the big chap from Questar or Famous Monsters w/the alien and Lamb on the cover? Thanks:D

[pjam]

Why Batty Rocks...


I was going through some magazines I bought as a kid and found these. Magazines are another reminder of the days before the internet.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5848/capturedata78bf5.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7914/capturedata1315377ic5.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7708/capturedata7556053hp2.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Batty]

Going through these old mags is definitely a blast from the past! Tons of great photos, articles and old Star Wars action figure ads. And I love the article about Alien 2 rumors. :lol

I also have stacks of Starlog, Fangoria, Futura and all sorts of weird pulp sci-fi magazines. I'll try to post some more scans later tonight.

[pjam]

THE ORIGINAL SPACE JOCKEY....

Guys, seems there is another little known film besides the clear ALIEN template "IT! The Terror from Beyond Space" which influenced Alien. A Buddy told me about it yesterday. It's a an old B movie called "Planet of the Vampires" made in 1965, yes, I know it sounds cheesy and it was in some aspects (the outfits were leather Wolverine like suits) But it was ahead of it's time in concept in some elements, in it a tractor beam like "force" pulls a spaceship to it (ESB?), and they use parcec as terminology (don't know if that is an actual term)

And in this film you will find the original Space Jockey which was found in a derelict ship, imagine that...

My Buddy lent me the DVD and sure enough there is a space jockey, sure it was ripped off for Alien and Wor-Gar even mentioned Ridley acknowledged that...

anyways, the original Space Jockey.

[Reinhardt]

that is so cool!!! i checked netflix and they don't have it. I'll have to look around for this one. REALLY interested in seeing it now!! Thanks Paul!

[The ill Jedi]

And in this film you will find the original Space Jockey which was found in a derelict ship, imagine that...

Same exact design as the one in ALIEN P?

[pjam]

Same exact design as the one in ALIEN P?

Well.... Spoiler Alert for those who want to be surpised...










Scroll below for answer...





The crew had spotted a shiny object in a fog bank and went to explore and found a derelict ship. The space jockey in this film was outside the ship and was the skeletal remains of a human looking figure 3X the size of a human. The actual look of it was strikingly similar to the SJ in ALIEN. I believe there was another SJ inside the derelict ship, he was not sitting in a chair or anything... but there is no doubt this was the Original SJ.

[Batty]

I have Planet of the Vampires. I can do screen-shots later if anyone's interested.

It is worth checking out. And I actually like the leather suit designs in this movie.

[pjam]

that is so cool!!! i checked netflix and they don't have it. I'll have to look around for this one. REALLY interested in seeing it now!! Thanks Paul!

Reiny, it had other titles. Check this imdb link....


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059792/

[pjam]

I have Planet of the Vampires. I can do screen-shots later if anyone's interested.

It is worth checking out. And I actually like the leather suit designs in this movie.

Maybe someone can do something I always wanted done on the ALIENS thread but I don't have screen grab software, and what is that you ask?

Well the Actual ALIENS grand dad film, the orginal Bug Hunt Movie called "THEM!", in it you will find the original Newt, original Ripley, plenty of elements retooled for that film, Military Soldiers using flamethrowers in Queen Egg chambers, translucent eggs, etc.

[paulcarson]

For those guys wanting to see the movie for free! Look through the listings here:

http://www.tv-links.co.uk/listings/4

Edit -Crap, its been removed ! Keep watching though , it may return.

[PROWL]

The truth is Alien didn't steal from any one soruce, Dan O'bannan cites a nuber of books and movies, inculding Darkstar, which is what got him started writting Alien in the frist place.

[Batty]

A few more scans. I have some Aliens covers I'll post in that thread.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/17/capturedata78np0.png (http://imageshack.us)

Alien merchandise. I still have all the books and the album.

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/802/capturedata1315377cl0.png (http://imageshack.us)

How's this for a centerfold? :lol I guess they didn't have any pics of the Warrior Aliens yet.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3297/dscn9825kk7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[pjam]

Love it Batty! You Rock, Bro. :rock :duff

Old School, Baby! :rock

[Batty]

Love it Batty! You Rock, Bro. :rock :duff

Old School, Baby! :rock

Definitely Old School! :lol

Way before the internet and the countless entertainment shows on tv, the only way to get movie info was through magazines. I always looked forward to the newest issue of Starlog or Famous Monsters or Fangoria. There were so many I used to bug my parents to get me every month! :lol

[Reinhardt]

that is some awesome stuff Batty.

[Hoser]

Man I really need to get around to watching these movies. I just saw the 3 pack at Target for 19.99$ too, hhmm, maybe this weekend.

[MaulFan]

Man I really need to get around to watching these movies. I just saw the 3 pack at Target for 19.99$ too, hhmm, maybe this weekend.

I hope you mean 4-pack, not sure why a 3-pack would exist.

[Buttmunch]

I had to see Alien again two weeks ago in my Sci-Fi/Horror class. I can't think of a cooler class. We get to see Alien, Blade Runner, Forbidden Planet, the Bride of Frankenstein, etc, etc. I feel like I'm watching everything related to Sideshow :lol

[Hoser]

I hope you mean 4-pack, not sure why a 3-pack would exist.

Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 right? AVP comes in the Predator 3 pack.

[MaulFan]

Alien series is a Quadrilogy:

ALIEN
ALIENS
ALIEN 3
ALIEN RESURRECTION

[Hoser]

Ah, I didn't know there was a 4th film, wait is Winona Ryder in it?

[MaulFan]

Ah, I didn't know there was a 4th film, wait is Winona Ryder in it?

Yes. Here's a quick breakdown.

ALIEN
A worker ship with a crew of a half dozen is sent to investigate an alien signal from planet LV-426; the crew finds a derelict ship full of alien eggs, one crew member attacked and impregnated with an alien which later hatches from within him and escapes. The crew is killed one by one until Ripley is left and destroys the alien and escapes.

ALIENS
After the Wayland Yutani corporation rescues Ripley from her space travel, they dispatch a group of colonists on LV-426 to investigate the craft described by Ripley. After discovering the craft, the xenomorph alien species begins in infest the LV-426 colony; upon losing communication with the colony, coloniel marines are dispatched along with Ripley to investigate the matter; war breaks out between marines and aliens leading to a final showdown between Ripley and the alien queen.

ALIEN 3
After escaping LV-426, Ripley's space vessel encounters mechanical failure after an alien egg stashed onboard hatches and its acid blood eats through the mechanicals; Ripley is ejected in an escape pod that lands on a penal planet where an alien egg impregnates a local animal and gets lose within the prison and everyone races to survive their new guest.

ALIEN Resurrection
Over the years, word about the power of the xenomorph species has spread to earth's military and led to a project to clone Ripley, who had been impregnated with an alien queen in 3 and died to kill the species. After finally succeeding with cloning, the queen lays eggs and a group of space mercenaries is enlisted to provide hosts for the alien eggs. Once the aliens reach maturity, they learn a way to escape and get out into the ship; most of the crew escapes but for a handful of military personnel, Ripley, and the mercenary crew. It's a fight for life to escape the military vessel and prevent the alien species from reaching earth.

[abake]

Ah, I didn't know there was a 4th film, wait is Winona Ryder in it?

You're kidding, right?

[Hoser]

Uhm no. I didn't really know the Alien and Predator franchises had such a following till I got here. And yeah I've never seen any of the Alien films (save AVP) does that count? looks like I'm missing out.

[Reinhardt]

Uhm no. I didn't really know the Alien and Predator franchises had such a following till I got here. And yeah I've never seen any of the Alien films (save AVP) does that count? looks like I'm missing out.

Yeah, AvP doesn't count!!

Do yourself a favor and watch both Predators, and atleast the first two Aliens! You will be glad you did, and then you'll get sucked into the wonderful world of Hot Toys. (and your wallet will hate you)

:D

[abake]

Uhm no. I didn't really know the Alien and Predator franchises had such a following till I got here. And yeah I've never seen any of the Alien films (save AVP) does that count? looks like I'm missing out.

Man, the Alien series is one of the best series ever!
Both Alien and Aliens are milestones of Sci-Fi and Horror. My personal fave is Alien, but all movies are good, my least favourite being A:R (the fourth). AvP is a nice sit-back-and-enjoy kinda movie.

Do get the Quadrilogy set, though, it is the best DVD boxed-set ever!

[bagelsncheesey]

watched alien last night, first time my wife has ever seen the movie! she was scared ****less when dallas was in the air ducts with the alien.

always a good time :rock

[Reinhardt]

watched alien last night, first time my wife has ever seen the movie! she was scared ****less when dallas was in the air ducts with the alien.

always a good time :rock

:rock :rock :rock :rock

[bagelsncheesey]

:rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock

[Solar77]

watched alien last night, first time my wife has ever seen the movie! she was scared ****less when dallas was in the air ducts with the alien.

always a good time :rock


I just watched it with my GF, back to back with Aliens. She hadn't seen either and is now a huge fan.

[FACEBOX]

I just watched it with my GF, back to back with Aliens. She hadn't seen either and is now a huge fan.

I had an alien Quad. weeked marathon that converted my GF. :maul
I guess it was the first step in getting her to accept my Alien collecting ways. :monkey3

[Reinhardt]

I had an alien Quad. weeked marathon that converted my GF. :maul
I guess it was the first step in getting her to accept my Alien collecting ways. :monkey3

woohoo! i've done the first movie with mine, and plan on the second very soon.

:D

[Solar77]

I had an alien Quad. weeked marathon that converted my GF. :maul
I guess it was the first step in getting her to accept my Alien collecting ways. :monkey3

Way to one up the newb :lol

I still need to watch Alien 3 with her. Resurrection, well, I was never a huge fan of that one.

[FACEBOX]

My bad. :o

Here is a haul I got from ONEYE.
I decided to customize it and turn it into a "classic" statue.

Pix:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/BoogieMONSTER_2006/Gun015.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/BoogieMONSTER_2006/Gun010.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/BoogieMONSTER_2006/Gun013.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/BoogieMONSTER_2006/Gun005.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/BoogieMONSTER_2006/Gun004.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/BoogieMONSTER_2006/Gun003-1.jpg

Jonsey: "Whaa Da Fuurr"?

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/BoogieMONSTER_2006/Gun012.jpg

[Wor-Gar]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/BoogieMONSTER_2006/Gun012.jpg


Kitty like strings...


Awesome "statue"!

[FACEBOX]

"Kitty like strings..."

That would be it's last mistake. :lol


Awesome "statue"!

Thanks. The reason I use the word statue is because it's now glued to the base, and the joints are glued too. :D

[Reinhardt]

that is outstanding!!! i love the goo.

what figure is that?

[wookster]

Very nice, I take it that started out as the Aoshima figure kit, it was the grid floor that I first noticed, but I didnt get the kitty with mine, it had a cocooned body and chestburster. love that drool!

[abake]

Fantastic!
I love the Aoshima aliens, they are very cool and have quite a bit of useful articulation.

[FACEBOX]

Thanks guys. :D

Yeah it's the Aoshima Alien kit.
They made two versions to each alien I believe. This one happened to come with Jonesy, and a facehugger. :rock

I love the fact that I got it to pose in the classic "ball pose", and the paint app. ain't too bad either. So, now that the drool has solidified...it won't be again. :D

[Rob]

I wonder when Hot Toys is going to make their own ALIEN Alien. It's my favorite design from all the films.

[abake]

This site was posted over at the Asylum, very cool site with tons of pics:

http://www.gigeralien.com/

[wookster]

Wow, there are some freakin incredible images there.
thanks for the link.

[Batty]

A little bump for this thread. The Kenner ALIEN commercial. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKSv85mJEmY) I wish I still had mine. :monkey2

[barryo]

A little bump for this thread. The Kenner ALIEN commercial. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKSv85mJEmY) I wish I still had mine. :monkey2

still have mine.......could never part with it.......it cost me a whole 14 bucks :chew

[icruise]

Wow, that's a lot bigger than I thought. Looks really good considering the time it came out.

[Batty]

still have mine.......could never part with it.......it cost me a whole 14 bucks :chew

Mine was given away by my parents when I went off to college. I even had the box for it. :monkey2

[galactiboy]

This has been a figure I've always wanted but never get around to buying. They have such a great nostalgia feel and of course the great backstory of being pulled from the shelves :rock

[barryo]

Mine was given away by my parents when I went off to college. I even had the box for it. :monkey2

who knew?..........ive seen the original with & without box fetch some serious bucks on the bay. the whole story of him being too frightening for children (making it fairly rare) from a marketing standpoint always makes me laugh, i couldnt wait to get him. mine is pretty close to mint because he wasnt played with much, .....but the box?......well, thats long gone as hell........i ripped him open and tossed that sucker :monkey2

[icruise]

I always think it's a little strange when they come out with toys from movies that young children probably shouldn't be watching in the first place.

[Batty]

who knew?..........ive seen the original with & without box fetch some serious bucks on the bay. the whole story of him being too frightening for children (making it fairly rare) from a marketing standpoint always makes me laugh, i couldnt wait to get him. mine is pretty close to mint because he wasnt played with much, .....but the box?......well, thats long gone as hell........i ripped him open and tossed that sucker :monkey2

It's funny how the kids in that commercial didn't seem to mind! "Another triumph for Alien!" :lol


I always think it's a little strange when they come out with toys from movies that young children probably shouldn't be watching in the first place.

Yeah, even today with movies like The Dark Knight. I know it won't be rated R, but it's still not for young kids who will want the Mattel figures.

[uscmhicks]

just thought I would let you guys know I met a guy on a local outside market yesterday who said he worked on the original set of alien !.
He was selling a few old alien toys but thats about it. I had my suspicions about him but if he was telling the truth I was pretty impressed and it was quite cool to meet him. He mentioned that ripley could be quite grumpy now and then. :lol
Eh , with millions and such a fan base how can you be grumpy !.
Some are never pleased , buy you still rock my world ripley !. :rock
You can be grumpy with me any day. :rotfl

[barryo]

I always think it's a little strange when they come out with toys from movies that young children probably shouldn't be watching in the first place.

well thats capitalism at its finest...........the almighty dollar seems to know no bounds. :rolleyes:

[uscmhicks]

na its just weirdos like us buy em :lol:lol:lol

[abake]

still have mine.......could never part with it.......it cost me a whole 14 bucks :chew

Damn barryo! That's a nice pic!
Seeing the size of that thing makes shudder with dread anticipation at the actual size of the NECA alien, it's supposed to be around 21"-22" tall!

BTW, could you post more pics of your Kenner Alien?
I've always wanted to see more good pics of it. Somehow the ones on the net aren't so hot...

Thanks anyway!

[barryo]

Damn barryo! That's a nice pic!
Seeing the size of that thing makes shudder with dread anticipation at the actual size of the NECA alien, it's supposed to be around 21"-22" tall!

BTW, could you post more pics of your Kenner Alien?
I've always wanted to see more good pics of it. Somehow the ones on the net aren't so hot...

Thanks anyway!

sure thing. i cant wait for the neca version myself. i hope its as nice as some of the pics ive seen.

[icruise]

Maybe I should ask this in the thread for the NECA figure, but I thought it was supposed to be 18" tall. Or is it just 18" scale, which might make it taller than 18"?

[barryo]

Maybe I should ask this in the thread for the NECA figure, but I thought it was supposed to be 18" tall. Or is it just 18" scale, which might make it taller than 18"?

i thought that it was 18" as well. :confused:

[abake]

I hope I'm not spoiling any surprises (but it's been mentioned in other boards as well, so I guess it's ok)... the final production piece came out larger than expected and it will measure at around 21".

[Les Walker]

I hope I'm not spoiling any surprises (but it's been mentioned in other boards as well, so I guess it's ok)... the final production piece came out larger than expected and it will measure at around 21".

21"!!!!
Well, there goes my "really large" 1/6 dream... :lol
This sure ain't no 1/6!
Back to the Hot Toys dream again.... :D

[Jamal]

I hope I'm not spoiling any surprises (but it's been mentioned in other boards as well, so I guess it's ok)... the final production piece came out larger than expected and it will measure at around 21".

Whaa? the 18' one that Kyle is doing will stand at 21'??

[abake]

That is what I've heard from people who were at the Toyfair...

[Les Walker]

I was quietly hoping it was BARELY 18" and came in at like 17 something....so I could just forgo all the worry about an accurate HT one....
We will see pretty soon I guess.

:D

(Still doesn't mean I am not all about HT getting it right!)

[Jamal]

But bigger is better Les :)

[Les Walker]

But bigger is better Les :)

Not if you don't collect PF's! :D
But, I will take it anyway! :rock

ANY word on the expected HT ALIEN figs???? I keep looking, but nothing...wind...tumbleweeds...any news on what two are first?

[Batty]

ANY word on the expected HT ALIEN figs???? I keep looking, but nothing...wind...tumbleweeds...any news on what two are first?

I've been looking too with no luck. It should be soon.

[abake]

I'm guessing thursday or friday...

[pjam]

The first page ( Synopsis and characters) of an early, I believe first, "ALIEN" Screenplay Draft... interesting...

ALIEN


(project formerly titled STARBEAST)


Story by Dan O'Bannon & Ronald Shusett


Screenplay by Dan O'Bannon





1976






SYNOPSIS

En route back to Earth from a far part of the galaxy, the crew of the
starship SNARK intercepts a transmission in an alien language,
originating from a nearby storm-shrouded planet.

Mankind has waited centuries to contact another form of intelligent
life in the universe -- they decide to land and investigate. Their
search takes them to a wrecked alien spacecraft whose doors gape open
-- it is dead and abandoned. Inside they find, among other strange
things, the skeleton of one of the unearthly space travellers.

Certain clues in the wrecked ship lead them across the hostile surface
of the planet to a primitive stone pyramid, the only remnant of a
vanished civilization. Beneath this pyramid they find an ancient tomb
full of fantastic artifacts. Lying dormant in the tomb are centuries-
old spores, which are triggered into life by the men's presence. A
parasite emerges and fastens itself to one of the men's faces -- and
cannot be removed.

An examination by the ship's medical computer reveals that the
creature has inserted a tube down his throat, which is depositing
something inside him. Then it is discovered that the parasite's blood
is a horribly corrosive acid which eats through metal -- they dare not
kill it on the ship.

Ultimately it is dislodged from its victim and ejected from the ship,
and they blast off from the Hell-planet. However, before they can seal
themselves into suspended animation for the long voyage home, a
horrible little monster emerges from the victim's body -- it has been
growing in him, deposited there by the parasite... and now it is loose
on the ship.

A series of ghastly adventures follow. They trap it in an air shaft
and a man has to crawl down the shaft with a flamethrower -- it tears
a man's head off and runs away with his body -- a man is crushed in
the air lock door and the ship loses most of its air in a terrific
windstorm -- another man is burned to death and then eaten by the
creature -- and another is woven into a cocoon as part of the alien's
bizarre life cycle.

Finally there is only one man left alive, alone on the ship with the
creature, and only six hours till his air runs out; which leads to a
climax of horrifying, explosive jeopardy, the outcome of which
determines who will reach Earth alive -- man or alien.






CAST OF CHARACTERS

CHAZ STANDARD,
Captain.................A leader and a politician. Believes that
any action is better than no action.

MARTIN ROBY,
Executive Officer.......Cautious but intelligent -- a survivor.

DELL BROUSSARD,
Navigator...............Adventurer; brash glory-hound.

SANDY MELKONIS,
Communications..........Tech Intellectual; a romantic.

CLEAVE HUNTER,
Mining Engineer.........High-strung; came along to make his
fortune.

JAY FAUST,
Engine Tech.............A worker. Unimaginative.

The crew is unisex and all parts are interchangeable for men or women.

[galactiboy]

Interesting read, thanks Paul.

[Gahgantu]

Sure beats a scarecrow XD (Not my picture)

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r227/EvoDon/big_alien1.jpg

[pjam]

Reposted...

The first page ( Synopsis and characters) of an early, I believe first, "ALIEN" Screenplay Draft... interesting...

ALIEN


(project formerly titled STARBEAST)


Story by Dan O'Bannon & Ronald Shusett


Screenplay by Dan O'Bannon





1976






SYNOPSIS

En route back to Earth from a far part of the galaxy, the crew of the
starship SNARK intercepts a transmission in an alien language,
originating from a nearby storm-shrouded planet.

Mankind has waited centuries to contact another form of intelligent
life in the universe -- they decide to land and investigate. Their
search takes them to a wrecked alien spacecraft whose doors gape open
-- it is dead and abandoned. Inside they find, among other strange
things, the skeleton of one of the unearthly space travellers.

Certain clues in the wrecked ship lead them across the hostile surface
of the planet to a primitive stone pyramid, the only remnant of a
vanished civilization. Beneath this pyramid they find an ancient tomb
full of fantastic artifacts. Lying dormant in the tomb are centuries-
old spores, which are triggered into life by the men's presence. A
parasite emerges and fastens itself to one of the men's faces -- and
cannot be removed.

An examination by the ship's medical computer reveals that the
creature has inserted a tube down his throat, which is depositing
something inside him. Then it is discovered that the parasite's blood
is a horribly corrosive acid which eats through metal -- they dare not
kill it on the ship.

Ultimately it is dislodged from its victim and ejected from the ship,
and they blast off from the Hell-planet. However, before they can seal
themselves into suspended animation for the long voyage home, a
horrible little monster emerges from the victim's body -- it has been
growing in him, deposited there by the parasite... and now it is loose
on the ship.

A series of ghastly adventures follow. They trap it in an air shaft
and a man has to crawl down the shaft with a flamethrower -- it tears
a man's head off and runs away with his body -- a man is crushed in
the air lock door and the ship loses most of its air in a terrific
windstorm -- another man is burned to death and then eaten by the
creature -- and another is woven into a cocoon as part of the alien's
bizarre life cycle.

Finally there is only one man left alive, alone on the ship with the
creature, and only six hours till his air runs out; which leads to a
climax of horrifying, explosive jeopardy, the outcome of which
determines who will reach Earth alive -- man or alien.






CAST OF CHARACTERS

CHAZ STANDARD,
Captain.................A leader and a politician. Believes that
any action is better than no action.

MARTIN ROBY,
Executive Officer.......Cautious but intelligent -- a survivor.

DELL BROUSSARD,
Navigator...............Adventurer; brash glory-hound.

SANDY MELKONIS,
Communications..........Tech Intellectual; a romantic.

CLEAVE HUNTER,
Mining Engineer.........High-strung; came along to make his
fortune.

JAY FAUST,
Engine Tech.............A worker. Unimaginative.

The crew is unisex and all parts are interchangeable for men or women.

[uscmhicks]

Ah, I didn't know there was a 4th film, wait is Winona Ryder in it?

:monkey4:monkey4:monkey4:monkey4
As an alien supreme fan this comment made me cry.... :monkey2:monkey2:monkey2

[Ra88]

The first page ( Synopsis and characters) of an early, I believe first, "ALIEN" Screenplay Draft... interesting...

Isn't that from the scriptdraft before Giger was asked to design the alien? When it was instead this very weird bigeyed, multilegged fat thing?

[pjam]

Isn't that from the scriptdraft before Giger was asked to design the alien? When it was instead this very weird bigeyed, multilegged fat thing?

Yes, absolutely. Thought it would be interesting to see the original characters and synopsis by the Writers.

[MaulFan]

Interesting to see the roots, but I'm glad the final film evolved from that. The origin of the ALIEN doesn't seem as suspenseful and mysterious in that write up as the final film.

[Batty]

What if it had this ending? :monkey4

Ridley Scott is reportedly quoted as saying that originally he wanted a much darker ending. He planned on having the alien bite off Ripley's head in the escape shuttle, sit in her chair, and then start speaking with her voice in a message to Earth. Apparently, 20th Century Fox wasn't too pleased with such a dark ending.

[MaulFan]

Wow, that ending would have sucked on so many levels. FOX made good decisions back in the day, what the hell happened to it :( I prefer the xenomorph to be intelligently primitive in it's behavior, the idea of it being able to communicate and all that kills what makes it unique and cool, and not having Ripley survive clearly would hurt the sequels.

[Dark_Spidey]

Actually I find that ending really interesting!

[Wor-Gar]

Is MARTIN ROBY a nod to MARTIN BRODY?

JAWS in Space.

[Batty]

Is MARTIN ROBY a nod to MARTIN BRODY?

JAWS in Space.

Could be. I'm just glad they didn't go with the name "Cleave Hunter". :monkey4

[Wor-Gar]

Could be. I'm just glad they didn't go with the name "Cleave Hunter". :monkey4

:rotfl

LOOK OUT, CLEAVE!

[Batty]

Speaking of changes: I always felt a little sorry for Veronica Cartwright. Imagine finding out you aren't the lead character after you arrive on set.

[Wor-Gar]

Maybe that's why she gives such a good performance as a whiny complainer with her freaky red eyes and snotty nose?

[pjam]

Speaking of changes: I always felt a little sorry for Veronica Cartwright. Imagine finding out you aren't the lead character after you arrive on set.


Me too, I liked her character. Most of the deleted scenes had Veronica in them, including her "B-itch-off "with Ripley...

Hudson's Character in Aliens was also, in part, inspired by her doomsday rants...

[abake]

O'Bannon's original script wasn't very good... we have a lot to thank the producers and Scott for!

[shockwave]

Ok I was hestitant to ask this but it's well somewhat driving me crazy folks. The scene when the Alien was about to headbite Ripley in her space helmet. The alien's inner jaw was closed kind of like coming out slowly. Unlike when it killed Brett & Parker; the innner jaw opened inside the mouth then well you know the rest.

So my silly question is...what's up that? I :google I had to ask because I never understood that. Thanks..:confused::duh

[MaulFan]

Ok I was hestitant to ask this but it's well somewhat driving me crazy folks. The scene when the Alien was about to headbite Ripley in her space helmet. The alien's inner jaw was closed kind of like coming out slowly. Unlike when it killed Brett & Parker; the innner jaw opened inside the mouth then well you know the rest.

So my silly question is...what's up that? I :google I had to ask because I never understood that. Thanks..:confused::duh

From a film perspective, using that image is a good way to make the scare of the moment stronger because everyone knows by that point what will follow if he gets her versus just standing there behind her, and since it's a quick shot and only meant for one last scare, I'm sure they just weren't paying attention. Also, it was 1979 so there could have been mechanical issues and even though they pushed the button or whatever, the mouth didn't open, but the take went right so they didn't chance a reshoot and have the jaw work but the take come out bad.

From a story perspective, similarly, I'd say the Alien was just using the jaw as a scare tactic like animals use anatomy to scare off enemies and frighten prey.

[abake]

Maybe the alien didn't really want to kill her.
There was a sexual undercurrent to Alien. And when the alien is in the Narcissus and Ripley hides in the "closet", it shows its tongue in a very meaningful way... or maybe I'm a pervert! LOL!

[Blackhole]

Maybe the alien didn't really want to kill her.
There was a sexual undercurrent to Alien. And when the alien is in the Narcissus and Ripley hides in the "closet", it shows its tongue in a very meaningful way... or maybe I'm a pervert! LOL!

I kind of got that image too...it looked like it wanted her...if you know what I mean...:naughty:naughty:naughty

[abake]

Yeah, it was a bit of the old in'n'out...

[MaulFan]

Maybe the alien didn't really want to kill her.
There was a sexual undercurrent to Alien. And when the alien is in the Narcissus and Ripley hides in the "closet", it shows its tongue in a very meaningful way... or maybe I'm a pervert! LOL!

Ya, it does almost have come off like the ALIEN is getting a boner from Ripley, and it does kinda feel up Lambert with it's tail. Definitely some strong sexual overtones to it, but it seemed like they not only went to Giger for the look but also to sort of map out how it works when he designed the look and knowing him, the results are some innuendo in the film.

[abake]

Also, it's not noticeable in the movie, but during filming the alien had the tail attached to the front and not the back (in some scenes).
And the alien was an equal opportunity sex offender, because the tail was between Brett's legs originally (you can still see its his sneakers and not Lambert's boots).
I can't remember where I read/heard it, but in some interview one of the cast (probably Weaver) was discussing the fact that the alien had Kane's instincts and drives, i.e. those of a man, so maybe it had a kind of sexual urge. It just didn't know how to go about it.

See, that's the kind of undercurrent that got completely lost with Cameron's sequel...

The alien was so much creepier in the first movie.
It was truly an abomination.

[MaulFan]

Here's the way I break down the Alien films in terms of their feel and tones.

ALIEN - Horror in a sci-fi context

ALIENS - War movie in a sci-fi context

ALIEN 3, A:R, AVP, AVPR - Sci-fi creature films

I'm ok with what Cameron did becaus I don't think he altered what the Alien was, at least nowhere near the extent of A3 on, but his film was more about the human characters and the focus was on how they handled themselves in the situation and the Aliens were more of a circumstance than a cast member whereas Ridley's film focused on the presence of the Alien and the suspense of having a dangerous being you know nothing about and having no idea where it is in the ship. As much as there are good human characters in Alien, I feel like the film's focus is the creature and the suspense of all the unknowns. You've got 2 key things in a film, characters and circumstances, ALIEN is about circumstances, ALIENS is about characters.