Save the Planet of the Apes!!! - PIX ADDED!!

[jungle jom]

No, I didn't get this. Maybe I wasn't around. I miss JJ. It was always great when he was around.

HEY, HEY, HEY...

STICKS... Don't put me in the ground yet, I'm still alive and kicking....

[jungle jom]

This place is always better when JJ's here.

I actually painted the body of Landon. That was the first humans I ever worked on. You can tell he was painted. It's got lot's of paint on his skin.

Later on, I learned to just dry brush the skin tones on the humans as I did with your BridgeKeeper. I used just enough dry brushing on it to kill the plastic sheen.

Thanks Angel... The feeling is mutual!

[jungle jom]

I don't recall how JJ did his frame Ironman, but I do remember how I did mine. I started off using a small custom wooden frame. Later, I gave it a melted look using ... tah dah... apoxie

I made a custom frame out of balsa and wood putty for the burnt melting effect. I think Angel and my frame look so much the same is because of the way we painted them

[stickman]

HEY, HEY, HEY...

STICKS... Don't put me in the ground yet, I'm still alive and kicking....

LOL, sorry JJ I didn't mean for it to sound like that! :lol

It's always great to hear from you buddy.

I'm just posting some of my Civil War, and Native American Indians on R&R's site. It's a slow site but they are great people there, just like the ones in this thread.

Time to go make dinner, take my medication, then off to bed to read.

JJ how's work going for you, and are you working on any new Projects? I'll catch your reply tomorrow. Have a good night buddy, and everyone else. :wave:sleep

[Ironman1188]

O'kay, then point me toward his direction and I will commision Him to paint it for me. Thanks Dude!

Thats the bad part. He's finishing what he has in terms of commissions, then retiring.

[Protozaius]

I really know how you feel about that, I don't go on too much, but I do post my videos there and it would be great to get some feedback from you, PZ, and Dr. Z

It's only a minute long. :rolleyes: It took two months to create and SS didn't even post it at all during the contest, OUCH that hurt.

I just wanted to let you know that I posted a comment back at Facebook concerning your film... a really enjoyable little film.

But Facebook, I dunno... I get the creeps when I'm on it. :horror:horror:horror

[angelofmusic2112]

I see you liked my Sam Elliott IS Caspy idea, huh? LOL

That was a GREAT find that YOU came up with Ironman! That sculpt of "Caspy" is just awesome! However, Mine is actually a mask, not a full head sculpt like you would think. It comes off to reveal the Sideshow mutant. The actual SS mutant is hidden underneath that mask. JJ came up with idea.

All those apes you showed are absolutely stunning. What an army we could amass if we ALL got together. :naughty

Thanks again Ironman. Some of them are lacking and can't compete with the others. That's just the way some projects are. That's why that one is called a background chimp. He'll be in the far background. Sometimes you strike gold and sometimes you don't.

[angelofmusic2112]

I love the bloodshot Gorilla, I thought he was in the film?

KFOG here's all the goodies I got from R&R this week.

Grant contemplates his best approach to Vicksburg. Everything opens and has real items inside, like bread, ammo, cartridges, shells great stuff.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/Stickly/IMG_1732.jpg

Gosh! I love all that furniture and stuff. It adds so much to the figure(s) and to the photo.

[angelofmusic2112]

Great stuff Angel, Here's my favorite custom Ape. :)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/Stickly/IMG_0187a.jpg

Thanks Sticks! :rolleyes: (Is that because he's your ONLY custom ape?) :lol

[angelofmusic2112]

O'kay, then point me toward his direction and I will commision Him to paint it for me. Thanks Dude!

Ask Ironman Kfog, he knows him, I don't.

[angelofmusic2112]

HEY, HEY, HEY...

STICKS... Don't put me in the ground yet, I'm still alive and kicking....

Hey! Look who has been resurrected! :lol

[Ironman1188]

That was a GREAT find that YOU came up with Ironman! That sculpt of "Caspy" is just awesome! However, Mine is actually a mask, not a full head sculpt like you would think. It comes off to reveal the Sideshow mutant. The actual SS mutant is hidden underneath that mask. JJ came up with idea.


WHAT!! Even when i have a good idea you manage to 1 up me!! You crafty simian you!! Is the mask resin or rubber?
How did the Fat Man sculpt ever come out. No mutant ensemble is complete without him!!

[angelofmusic2112]

I'll post a picture of the Fat Man tonight if you'd like Ironman. I can get his face very similar, but it lacks details such as "wrinkles". My painting isn't something I'm proud of on him. I spent too much time on him and just have to accept him as done… for now. Perhaps someday I'll try to rework him so that I am pleased. Not now though.

I will post some pictures of my Dodge tonight too. I made him about 2-3 years ago and I know I can improve on that sculpt now. I'll post the BEFORE pictures tonight. Sometime, really soon, I'll be re-doing him. :)

[angelofmusic2112]

Is the mask resin or rubber?

Resin :monkey1

[stickman]

I just wanted to let you know that I posted a comment back at Facebook concerning your film... a really enjoyable little film.

But Facebook, I dunno... I get the creeps when I'm on it. :horror:horror:horror

Good morning All,

I just saw that PZ, Thank you very much. I rarely do facebook, except to post my films or pictures, until i get my own website. As you can tell I don't do much else, oh and to talk to other family members. You are right, FB is the new Myspace. A lot of people have nothing better to do. I do like the video upload feature though, I've lost way too many videos from burned out hard drives and computer crashes. Thanks again PZ it means a lot to me.

All that need to check in now are Angel, and Dr. Z! I know JJ doesn't have an account so :tap:tap:lol

[King Darkness]

HOLY CRAP!!!!

14,000 + posts!

Sweet fancy Moses, you Apes know how to keep a thread alive :rock

[stickman]

Gosh! I love all that furniture and stuff. It adds so much to the figure(s) and to the photo.

Thank you Angel, Everything opens and is fully functional. The desk is beyond words, it even has little locks on it. The bread crates have tiny loaves wrapped, labeled, individually tied, and snugly covered with minute sawdust particles.

The canon shells, have a range chart, and are painted.

The ammo, chairs, table etc are all amazing. I love their work, and they really love it too and it truly shows.

[Ironman1188]

HOLY CRAP!!!!

14,000 + posts!

Sweet fancy Moses, you Apes know how to keep a thread alive :rock

YES!!! And with Hot Toys help hopefully the 1:6 line will stay alive as well!!!
:monkey5

[King Darkness]

YES!!! And with Hot Toys help hopefully the 1:6 line will stay alive as well!!!
:monkey5


:rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock

Its great to see the Ape Army strong still!

[stickman]

Thanks Sticks! :rolleyes: (Is that because he's your ONLY custom ape?) :lol

Hey, that's not fair!! :monkey2

I did try to make this guy. I just didn't like the plastic Hasbro belt and vest. I wonder if the Hasbro color will work with the new HT Apes.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/Stickly/IMG_8821.jpg

[stickman]

I'll post a picture of the Fat Man tonight

Yes Yes Yes :joy:joy Please do.

[Ironman1188]

Hey, that's not fair!! :monkey2

I did try to make this guy. I just didn't like the plastic Hasbro belt and vest. I wonder if the Hasbro color will work with the new HT Apes.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/Stickly/IMG_8821.jpg

Its like the Trek guys are in the background saying:
"look at the funny monkey in the plastic belt"
LOL

[stickman]

HOLY CRAP!!!!

14,000 + posts!

Sweet fancy Moses, you Apes know how to keep a thread alive :rock

Yo KD, The Kurgan Master has arrived! :google

[stickman]

Its like the Trek guys are in the background saying:
"look at the funny monkey in the plastic belt"
LOL

:lol I thought the Blue Shirt guy was checking out the wheels.
"Wow, look at those 40" rims"

[Ironman1188]

You should put "spinners" on those wheels!

[kfog41]

Stickman! Those R & R customs are top notch! I am glad you you posted those pics! What a realistic scene that it makes. I love everything pictured and the tent is very cool. Where did you get the white tent anyway?:D

[kfog41]

Hey Angel! I still would like to get at least one of your custom Apes flags from you. I never did get any. Can you get motivated into making them again. I also would like to have at least three more Conquest armbands.:monkey5

[kfog41]

Question for Angel and all! I have switched out the original SS Gorilla heads for four of Angels Gorilla Custom sculpts and now I have to find bodies for the left over Sideshow Gorilla heads to use as conquest Apes in Jumpsuits. Where (Not including their SS original bodies) can I find the best bodies to accomadate these Gorilla heads? Thanks to all that reply!:confused:

[angelofmusic2112]

Thank you Angel, Everything opens and is fully functional. The desk is beyond words, it even has little locks on it. The bread crates have tiny loaves wrapped, labeled, individually tied, and snugly covered with minute sawdust particles.

The canon shells, have a range chart, and are painted.

The ammo, chairs, table etc are all amazing. I love their work, and they really love it too and it truly shows.

BTW - That tent reminds me the "test experiment" that was used to shoot the initial POTA footage with Edward G. Robinson wearing Dr. Zaius makeup.

[angelofmusic2112]

Hey Angel! I still would like to get at least one of your custom Apes flags from you. I never did get any. Can you get motivated into making them again. I also would like to have at least three more Conquest armbands.:monkey5

KFog - We'll talk about it...

[angelofmusic2112]

Question for Angel and all! I have switched out the original SS Gorilla heads for four of Angels Gorilla Custom sculpts and now I have to find bodies for the left over Sideshow Gorilla heads to use as conquest Apes in Jumpsuits. Where (Not including their SS original bodies) can I find the best bodies to accomadate these Gorilla heads? Thanks to all that reply!:confused:

KFog - Everyone is going to have his or her own opinion, but it's really up to you to decide what is best for the project. Cost is always a BIG factor to me. I bought about 10 dragon bodies (from eBay) and turned 90% of them into various Conquest apes. I've also used generic bodies from Sideshow for the taller apes.

Ironman once talked about the possibility of getting interested persons together and then buying some shorter apelike bodies. He posted it somewhere on this thread. I remember he posted a picture and talked about the shipping costs.

For me, it all boils down to low cost. I believe that almost anything will work for my needs. So far, I've used Dragon bodies and generic Sideshow bodies.

Hope that helps. :angelsmil

[Ironman1188]

You're right Angel, the tent does look like that. Anyone have any Edgar G. Robinson or James Brolin sculpts?? :rotfl

Kfog, Angel's right (again), the body choices come down to what each person's favorites and abilites are. I tried to get an order together for some Yamato bodies, thats the ones Angel was talking about, awhile ago. No one wanted in at the time and I'm not even sure if the place still has them They are shorter than the average 1:6 body which works well for most apes. The articulation is reminiscent of the old Ideal Captain Action bodies.
Other than that a BBi G3 or G3.5 will work as will recent Hot Toys bodies. I don't have one but it looks like Sideshow's Prometheus body would also do the job. Those are the easiest bodies to switch heads to that I know of. Of course, if one wants to adapt the neck of a figure or the underside of the POTA head then whole other realms of possibilities open up.

[angelofmusic2112]

Kfog - These red jumpsuits can frequently be found on eBay. If you have some extra SS gorilla heads, buy a generic body and a red jumpsuit. After painting a pair of boots the right color red you’ve got an easy custom! Do it!

I then attached some red ribbon to the jumpsuit to simulate pockets. I also put apoxy over the human hands to simulate hair. :angelsmil

[stickman]

Stickman! Those R & R customs are top notch! I am glad you you posted those pics! What a realistic scene that it makes. I love everything pictured and the tent is very cool. Where did you get the white tent anyway?:D

I made it out of my old shower curtain. :D

[angelofmusic2112]

You're right Angel, the tent does look like that. Anyone have any Edgar G. Robinson or James Brolin sculpts?? :rotfl

Edgar G. Robinson?! That would be soooo cool. Is there a sculpt out there of him Ironman? :confused:

[angelofmusic2112]

I made it out of my old shower curtain. :D

Hope you washed the hair and soap scum off of it 1st Sticks. :eek:

[stickman]

Question for Angel and all! I have switched out the original SS Gorilla heads for four of Angels Gorilla Custom sculpts and now I have to find bodies for the left over Sideshow Gorilla heads to use as conquest Apes in Jumpsuits. Where (Not including their SS original bodies) can I find the best bodies to accomadate these Gorilla heads? Thanks to all that reply!:confused:

The ape bodies are unique as the use the roto cast heads. You'll need the peg I believe so this could be a challenge, also the apes weren't on 12" figure bodies as they only stood about 11.5" tall. Maybe you can use the DiD, or Dragon DML young bodies, i.e. Hitler Youth bodies and mod the neck to accept the Gorilla head?

[stickman]

BTW - That tent reminds me the "test experiment" that was used to shoot the initial POTA footage with Edward G. Robinson wearing Dr. Zaius makeup.

:lol I remember that scene, just imagine if the pilot wasn't accepted, we wouldn't have the apes we so dearly love today.

I'm hoping to one day have a canvas CW tent, but no one seems to be making them.

[angelofmusic2112]

Good point Sticks - I forgot that I had to made the neck posts. It wasn’t hard. I simply made them out of apoxie.

[angelofmusic2112]

I'm hoping to one day have a canvas CW tent, but no one seems to be making them.

You know who could make a canvas CW tent?

Jessica!!!

[stickman]

Kfog - These red jumpsuits can frequently be found on eBay. If you have some extra SS gorilla heads, buy a generic body and a red jumpsuit. After painting a pair of boots the right color red you’ve got an easy custom! Do it!

I then attached some red ribbon to the jumpsuit to simulate pockets. I also put apoxy over the human hands to simulate hair. :angelsmil

That's a very clever idea. To me, I never liked the oversized zippers, but I guess that could easily be rectified by just cutting it off. I need to get a few of the Red jumpsuits. Conquest was a great one. I've watched the DVD PZ gave out four times already. :D

[stickman]

Hope you washed the hair and soap scum off of it 1st Sticks. :eek:

No way, all the mold and fungus just helped add to the realism. :lol

I did.

[stickman]

You know who could make a canvas CW tent?

Jessica!!!

I love those little spoilers. haha I bet she could, I'll have t ask her one day, after she's rest from her trip. I hope she's having a good time.

[angelofmusic2112]

Here’s a couple I had just snapped off of Caesar.

[angelofmusic2112]

That's a very clever idea. To me, I never liked the oversized zippers, but I guess that could easily be rectified by just cutting it off. I need to get a few of the Red jumpsuits. Conquest was a great one. I've watched the DVD PZ gave out four times already. :D

What?! Only four times! :horror I've seen the new CONQUEST at least a dozen times by now. It really rocks! :rock

[stickman]

Here’s a couple I had just snapped off of Caesar.

He looks great. He needs an Ape City to be built around him. :naughty

[stickman]

Hey, I've been doing a lot of reading. :)

[angelofmusic2112]

I love those little spoilers. haha I bet she could, I'll have t ask her one day, after she's rest from her trip. I hope she's having a good time.

Okay everyone - It's time to say "Hi" to Jessica again! :wave

[angelofmusic2112]

Hey, I've been doing a lot of reading. :)

Sticks - Is that a new skill of yours? :lol

[angelofmusic2112]

What have you been reading? Dr. Seuss? :rotfl

[stickman]

Hi Jessica! :woo


O.K. I'm off for now. I need to go get ready for the Mariners game tonight,

It's Ken Griffey Bobble Head night. :)

Keep up the fight, and those pictures coming.



Also I got a letter from Alterego and I did't see the HT Apes in the IN STOCK or COMING IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS section, :horror

[angelofmusic2112]

He looks great. He needs an Ape City to be built around him. :naughty

I'm certainly trying... :whip

[stickman]

What have you been reading? Dr. Seuss? :rotfl

Wow! :whip


Winston Groom's Vicksburg 1863,

Civil War Times

American Civil War

The People's Civil War


Alright I gotta fly, See you later tonight

[angelofmusic2112]

Hi Jessica! :woo


O.K. I'm off for now. I need to go get ready for the Mariners game tonight,

It's Ken Griffey Bobble Head night. :)

Keep up the fight, and those pictures coming.



Also I got a letter from Alterego and I did't see the HT Apes in the IN STOCK or COMING IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS section, :horror

Later Sticks. :emperor

[angelofmusic2112]

Generic Chimp & Future Prefect

He needs a green collar as originally seen on the TV series.

[jungle jom]

Generic Chimp & Future Prefect

He needs a green collar as originally seen on the TV series.

Hey, Angel...

That Chimp has eye brows!!!

Chimps don't have eye brows, as I recall...

What gives?

I'll let you go on the hair style... Artistic license, or maybe it's a comb over and you've created a slightly balding chimp....

[Ironman1188]

Edgar G. Robinson?! That would be soooo cool. Is there a sculpt out there of him Ironman? :confused:

not that I've ever seen. :monkey2

[angelofmusic2112]

Hey, Angel...

That Chimp has eye brows!!!

Chimps don't have eye brows, as I recall...

What gives?

I'll let you go on the hair style... Artistic license, or maybe it's a comb over and you've created a slightly balding chimp....

All chimps have eyebrows JJ. "It's a fact. Accept it, you'll sleep better". :lecture

I thought everyone knew that chimps were into grooming and shaving their eyebrows. This chimp is a bit of a rebel ape. :google

Truthfully, it just makes this chimp look a bit older and wiser.

It's just my weird experiment that I kind of liked. How's that for an explanation?

[angelofmusic2112]

Gorillas don't wear plum colored orangutan style jackets either, but one of my gorillas does.

Just as one of my chimps is wearing gorilla type clothes and armor.

It's all an experiment for the apes that we never saw. I believe they had to be there somewhere. [i.e. We all know there were female gorillas and orangutans too. Right?]

[jungle jom]

All chimps have eyebrows JJ. "It's a fact. Accept it, you'll sleep better". :lecture

I thought everyone knew that chimps were into grooming and shaving their eyebrows. This chimp is a bit of a rebel ape. :google

Truthfully, it just makes this chimp look a bit older and wiser.

It's just my weird experiment that I kind of liked. How's that for an explanation?

Now... That's Funny!!!!!!!!!

[kfog41]

like to thank Angel, Ironman, and Stickman for their responses. I would have to say that the dml Dragon bodies would be my preference because of the thinner bodies. The only thing is adapting a neck plug to the original dml neck.
So another question for you all! Do they have a BBI type neck that adapts/mounts onto a dml neck? :confused:

[kfog41]

Hi IM! Is Yamato the same as In the Past Toys?:confused:

[angelofmusic2112]

like to thank Angel, Ironman, and Stickman for their responses. I would have to say that the dml Dragon bodies would be my preference because of the thinner bodies. The only thing is adapting a neck plug to the original dml neck. So another question for you all! Do they have a BBI type neck that adapts/mounts onto a dml neck? :confused:

I don't know of such things. Sorry. Ask Ironman. I would just make a post. You can't see the neckpost of the apes anyways.

[angelofmusic2112]

Here are some Lawgiver shots.

I should take some pictures of him outside. LG should be reading his scroll to the ape children with Caesar in the background.

[angelofmusic2112]

Here's some closeups of my Dodge.
I know he can be improved easily now. I know that I can paint him much better also. I'd give him some highlights, so he's not as dark, and then give his hair some texture and smooth out his complexion.

[angelofmusic2112]

A few more pictures of custom Dodge.

[angelofmusic2112]

Old Fashioned Apes Camera

As far as I know, there's only one other camera like this in the whole world!

[kfog41]

I think that I can make some out of wood! I need to make sure that the added neck post stays secure to the neck base of the figure. I bet that Angel can make some from resin. I plan to paint mine dark brown for the Chimps and Gorillas.

[angelofmusic2112]

The Fat Man

I know. I know. He's weak... perhaps in time, I can do something better with him.

[kfog41]

The Fat Man

I know. I know. He's weak... perhaps in time, I can do something better with him.

What a chub! Looks like the real actor though!

[kfog41]

Whatcha doing up so late Mark?

[angelofmusic2112]

What a chub! Looks like the real actor though!

The "basic shape" is there on the Fat Man's face. I have to really figure out what his problem is, or I'll never truly be happy with him. :monkey1

[kfog41]

One of my favorite Apes Magazines for obvious reasons!:naughty

[kfog41]

The "basic shape" is there on the Fat Man's face. I have to really figure out what his problem is, or I'll never be truly happy with him. :monkey1

I consider myself particular and still would be satisfied with it!

[angelofmusic2112]

Whatcha doing up so late Mark?

I'm up late milking the weekend for all it's worth! Thinking about projects like this one. It's still on the drawing board.:monkey2

[kfog41]

I would like to make this Aldo!

[angelofmusic2112]

One of my favorite Apes Magazines for obvious reasons!:naughty

Those really are good reasons.:monkey3

[kfog41]

I'm up late milking the weekend for all it's worth! Thinking about projects like this one. It's still on the drawing board.:monkey2

Do you think that bondo would be cheaper than apoxie for such a big project?:confused:

[angelofmusic2112]

I consider myself particular and still would be satisfied with it!

I might have an extra one KFog, but it's not painted.

That reminds me. I sent one to JJ a long time ago. (1 year ago???) Did you ever paint it Jungle?:confused:

[kfog41]

Time for me to hit the hay! I have worked the last two nights from 10:00 PM to 6:00AM in the morning! I have not stayed up that late in years. It is really hard to sleep during the day!

[kfog41]

I might have an extra one KFog, but it's not painted.

That reminds me. I sent one to JJ a long time ago. (1 year ago???) Did you ever paint it Jungle?:confused:

That's a good question! Did you JJ?

[angelofmusic2112]

I would like to make this Aldo!

Using the collar piece from the Hasbro Ursus and putting it on the Sideshow gorilla body would help to accomplish that "Aldo look". In fact, I wonder if that would even look good on a chimp. Do you remember the cartoon chimp Ironman posted a few days back?

After that, what's left for Aldo, a sword? :angelsmil

[kfog41]

Yea, pretty much! As a matter of fact, one of the Gorilla sculpts that you made could pass for Aldo. I have one!

[angelofmusic2112]

Time for me to hit the hay! I have worked the last two nights from 10:00 PM to 6:00AM in the morning! I have not stayed up that late in years. It is really hard to sleep during the day!

Good nite 2 you KFog. I'm staying up for a while more... :google

[kfog41]

Hope to see you on tomorrow morning. I will talk atcha then! I have some certain paints and sculpting tools to show you pictures of. Later Brother Ape!

[angelofmusic2112]

Yea, pretty much! As a matter of fact, one of the Gorilla sculpts that you made could pass for Aldo. I have one!

Cool! There you go buddy. Have at it. Post that picture tomorrow once you're done. :D

I'll be looking for it. :angelsmil

[kfog41]

Cool! There you go buddy. Have at it. Post that picture tomorrow once you're done. :D

I'll be looking for it. :angelsmil

You got it! No problem!

[angelofmusic2112]

Do you think that bondo would be cheaper than apoxie for such a big project?:confused:

It would be much cheaper to get Bondo than all that apoxie. Wal-Mart sells iBondo for around $15 per gallon. I'd probably need 2 gallons for her robe, the stone rubble at her base and the book alone. However, the details of her face, her crown and hair would have to be apoxie. Other areas such as Lady Liberty's torch, and portions of the book, would have to be apoxie as well.

The apoxie allows you to sculpt. Bondo will be a great cost saver to me! I used a quart of Bondo on the Doomsday Bomb while fashioning the cone portion of the missile. That was before I ever heard of apoxie.

[Ironman1188]

That's a very clever idea. To me, I never liked the oversized zippers, but I guess that could easily be rectified by just cutting it off. I need to get a few of the Red jumpsuits. Conquest was a great one. I've watched the DVD PZ gave out four times already. :D
Conquest always bothered me because they forgot the apes had simian feet.
like to thank Angel, Ironman, and Stickman for their responses. I would have to say that the dml Dragon bodies would be my preference because of the thinner bodies. The only thing is adapting a neck plug to the original dml neck.
So another question for you all! Do they have a BBI type neck that adapts/mounts onto a dml neck? :confused:
No, they won't fit DML right off. I have used the cover tube from old CrazyGlue containers, cut down and glued into the top offthe neck hole in the ape head, then the opening of the tube gets glued down onto the figure's neck stud.
Hi IM! Is Yamato the same as In the Past Toys?:confused:
No they are different entities. ITPT bodies are not much good, IMHO, for much other than fodder.
The Fat Man

I know. I know. He's weak... perhaps in time, I can do something better with him.

I so need one of those to complete my Mutant ensemble. Sideshow would have rocked had they made the main mutants instead of 9 Taylors. :monkey3

[Ironman1188]

So................ where is everybody?

[kfog41]

So................ where is everybody?

Off to their Apes projects Brother!:D

[Dr_Zaius]

In case any one needs them, here is a set of some loose Sideshow Ape figures. FZ Zaius and Caesar are in the batch. Not my auction by the way. Just happened to find them and thought I would pass them on in case anyone here needs them

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sideshow-5-Planet-Of-The-Apes-figures-loose_W0QQitemZ330349558897QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item4cea5e3c71&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[Dr_Zaius]

The Fat Man

I know. I know. He's weak... perhaps in time, I can do something better with him.

Weak??? I think he is almost right on!

[Dr_Zaius]

A few more pictures of custom Dodge.

He is cool Mark!!! Where did you get his head? Did you have to make any adjustments it?

[Dr_Zaius]

Old Fashioned Apes Camera

As far as I know, there's only one other camera like this in the whole world!


I have always liked your camera! I would love on of those

[Dr_Zaius]

:fireworks HI JESS!!!! :fireworks

This place just ins't the same with out our own Dr. Zira!!!

[kfog41]

In case any one needs them, here is a set of some loose Sideshow Ape figures. FZ Zaius and Caesar are in the batch. Not my auction by the way. Just happened to find them and thought I would pass them on in case anyone here needs them

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sideshow-5-Planet-Of-The-Apes-figures-loose_W0QQitemZ330349558897QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item4cea5e3c71&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Yea, I was going to bid on them at the last second. Is anyone here involved with the bidding wars of this auction? I have been watching it for a week!:monkey1

[angelofmusic2112]

Yeah KFog- I was bidding on those also! Good luck to you. I really want another Caesar. That's my motivation. The two gorillas are always “keepable”. If I win, I was planning on selling both orangutans... or something. I don't need them.

Are we bidding against each other? :lol

[angelofmusic2112]

I have always liked your camera! I would love on of those

Thanks Dr. Zaius - Perhaps, if enough people wanted that camera, I could make a mold of it and sell them. It's so small; it would certainly be one of my simpler projects. Making the camera stand(s) and getting them "just right" is the only real challenge.

[Dr_Zaius]

Thanks Dr. Zaius - Perhaps, if enough people wanted that camera, I could make a mold of it and sell them. It's so small; it would certainly be one of my simpler projects. Making the camera stand(s) and getting them "just right" is the only real challenge.



I would imagine that that would be rough to duplicate.

[kfog41]

Yeah KFog- I was bidding on those also! Good luck to you. I really want another Caesar. That's my motivation. The two gorillas are always “keepable”. If I win, I was planning on selling both orangutans... or something. I don't need them.

Are we bidding against each other? :lol

Hey Angel! No, I am not the other bidder! I will not bid against anyone here on this forum, especially since they have already placed bids. It is all yours and I hope that you get it. Good luck Brother Ape, Kent.:monkey1

[Dr_Zaius]

Yea, I was going to bid on them at the last second. Is anyone here involved with the bidding wars of this auction? I have been watching it for a week!:monkey1

I'm not bidding on them. Good luck and I hope at least some one here wins them.

[Ironman1188]

I was looking, :monkey2 wanting (the Gorillas mostly, and lamenting my lack of funds. :banghead

[kfog41]

Go Angel Go! :angelsmilWin those Apes!:monkey5:monkey1:monkey5

[kfog41]

My new Motto! "Ape shall never bid against Ape"! How is that one?

[kfog41]

I was looking, :monkey2 wanting (the Gorillas mostly, and lamenting my lack of funds. :banghead

Hey IM! How are things going today?:banana or :banghead

[kfog41]

I guess that I will try to put something together today. Hey Angel, I think that my Hasbro Apes are in storage, therefore I cannot locate the collar for the Aldo that I was wanting to piece together.:monkey2

[angelofmusic2112]

He is cool Mark!!! Where did you get his head? Did you have to make any adjustments it?

Thanks again Dr. Z, that Dodge head is actually a custom head. As you may recall, I started with the Sgt Barney head (also known as: my version of "Landon"). I shaved him and then rebuilt him back up with some of Dodges features. (I even shaved his nose down and gave him bigger nostrils.) I added the orange apoxie today and it's drying right now. I gave Dodges hair some texture today. (See it?) It was smooth as a baby’s bottom prior to today.

You can see the Sgt Barney underneath as I'm working on him today. :angelsmil

Those female apes will be "background apes" as Ironman says. Lastly, that gorilla simply needed more hair...

[kfog41]

Lets do a count of how many Gorillas each have. It does not have to be exact.

Question? What to do with an extra Ursus figure? Try to find a tunice and swap heads to make him into a soldier? Any advice from my simian friends here at the forum? By the way, I really loved how IM, Angel, and Stickman all gave me some excelent acvise! Kudos to you all!:clap:bow:rock2

[angelofmusic2112]

Do you actually have an extra Ursus then...

[angelofmusic2112]

I just took these gorilla pictures this morning. This guy used to be a human head that was made by Dragon. This ape was inspired by that lone gorilla in Beneath the Planet of the Apes that is "hiding/standing" behind a tree and sees Brent & Nova in a field. I can't remember if Brent & Nova were on foot, or if they were on horseback. Look for him next time you watch!

[kfog41]

I want one!:monkey5

[angelofmusic2112]

I want one!:monkey5

KFog - When do you think your Hot Toys will arrive? :confused:

[Ironman1188]

Hey IM! How are things going today?:banana or :banghead
Better than some. :)
Lets do a count of how many Gorillas each have. It does not have to be exact.

Question? What to do with an extra Ursus figure? Try to find a tunice and swap heads to make him into a soldier? Any advice from my simian friends here at the forum? By the way, I really loved how IM, Angel, and Stickman all gave me some excelent acvise! Kudos to you all!:clap:bow:rock2
Gorillas? Just Sideshow or customized too/ Total is hanging around 50. The head HAS to go. Then I would add a new sculpt and take off the shoulder armor, making a mid-rank gorilla.
Do you actually have an extra Ursus then...

extra? will you be parting him out?

[Ironman1188]

KFog - When do you think your Hot Toys will arrive? :confused:

When indeed? I can't wait for something to arrive.
<sigh>
I'm so depressed.....

[angelofmusic2112]

Sticks: Did Taylor's head go out yet? I plan on painting his custom beard along with your other ones at the same time.

[angelofmusic2112]

I'm so depressed.....

What? Depressed again! Cheer up Ironman. Just go for a long walk, or a run. Get out and do something. :whip

[angelofmusic2112]

KFog - Did you ever create Julius? Maybe you could get Jessica's sculpt of him and turn Ursus into Julius. :huh

[Ironman1188]

What do you guys think would work for real hair arms? I have an idea but not sure how to pull it off..........yet.

[kfog41]

KFog - Did you ever create Julius? Maybe you could get Jessica's sculpt of him and turn Ursus into Julius. :huh

If She could paint him for me, that would work!:confused:

[kfog41]

KFog - When do you think your Hot Toys will arrive? :confused:

I had cancelled the SS order and went with Alteregocomics! I received the same email as Stickman showing no mention of receiving them in within the next 30 days. I am hoping that that will change and is not the case. I ordered one Ursus, One Captain, and 2 Soldiers.:monkey5

[kfog41]

What do you guys think would work for real hair arms? I have an idea but not sure how to pull it off..........yet.

I wouldn't know how to go about glueing it on!:confused:

[Ironman1188]

I wouldn't know how to go about glueing it on!:confused:

I was thinking of trying to rig up prehaired sleeves of some sort? :rolleyes:

[Ironman1188]

And.... I just realized Sideshow's Mutant footwear is wrong. :banghead

[angelofmusic2112]

And.... I just realized Sideshow's Mutant footwear is wrong. :banghead

You let that bother you? I don't really care if it's wrong. I must've seen Beneath a 1000 times. I couldn't even tell you what the males have on their feet. It' just not important to me.

[jungle jom]

What do you guys think would work for real hair arms? I have an idea but not sure how to pull it off..........yet.

I-man... I've done it before with my old Hasbro Apes and I used crepe hair. It is cheep and easy to work with. Just glue it down in layers and work from the hand up as far as you need to.

[Ironman1188]

Well to me Sideshow issuing slippers for characters that wear boots is as big a mistake as Conquest putting human shoes on all the ape feet. Accuracy & consistency, should not be much to ask!

[Ironman1188]

I-man... I've done it before with my old Hasbro Apes and I used crepe hair. It is cheep and easy to work with. Just glue it down in layers and work from the hand up as far as you need to.

Thanks JJ, I'll look for it.

[jungle jom]

Angel... every time I see your work in progress pics with the tinfoil coveralls, I think of old women at the beauty parlor...

What was that Bugs Bunny quote... "Monsters are such interesting people."

[angelofmusic2112]

Angel... every time I see your work in progress pics with the tinfoil coveralls, I think of old women at the beauty parlor...

What was that Bugs Bunny quote... "Monsters are such interesting people."

:fireworksGossamer! :fireworks

[angelofmusic2112]

Well to me Sideshow issuing slippers for characters that wear boots is as big a mistake as Conquest putting human shoes on all the ape feet. Accuracy & consistency, should not be much to ask!

Honestly, I've never even looked at the feet of the male Mutants. Thanks for sharing. Are you really getting boots for yours?

[jungle jom]

:fireworksGossamer! :fireworks

I never could remember his name... I always referred to him as... "Canned Monster"

You gotta love those tennis shoes...

Hey, maybe Sideshow should have given their mutants each a pair of those!

[angelofmusic2112]

Angel... every time I see your work in progress pics with the tinfoil coveralls, I think of old women at the beauty parlor...

What was that Bugs Bunny quote... "Monsters are such interesting people."

Love the shoe idea. :lol

Here's some more tin foil at the local "beauty shop"...

Today, I decided these two gorillas also needed more hair.

[Dr_Zaius]

Was sitting on the couch today and the postman came to the door and delivered a box. I was thinking while I was opening it, "I don't remeber ordering anything". When I opened it, there he was, Ursus. I hate to say this but Hot Toys left SS in the dust on this figure. He looks like he just walked of the scren. I'm not a double dipper but if HT releases more of the ones SS already did, and they look as good as this, I want them! The only issue is his hat. It is made like Hasbros and limits his head turning. I am hoping that if you get one Angel that you will re-cast it and make the flap in the back out of the material you used for the SS Ursus.

[Dr_Zaius]

The did get his gun holster on the right side. The head moves up and down which I thiought was pretty neat also

[Dr_Zaius]

All this pic needs is Zaius, Brent with a rifle shooting Ursus, and Angles Doomsday Bomb!

[kfog41]

That is too cool DR. Z! I am anticipating mine coming sometime this month even though Alteregocomics has not mentioned it yet. That Ursus is stunning!Nice pictures!:monkey5

[angelofmusic2112]

You sure sound like one happy human! I love that last picture Dr. Z! I'm not getting any of the Ape Hot Toys. However, if I were to "break down" and actually get one, it would certainly be Ursus. :D

Any chance you might take some New Pictures of the Jail Cell along with some other new scenes? :monkey5:monkey5:monkey5

[angelofmusic2112]

Here's my take on the Preacher ape. I struck gold when I painted this one! Not sure what I did that made him look so good. I'm just very happy with this fella!

Note: I received the head from Snickertown and I had Jessica make the purple robe. Thanks to each of you! :angelsmil

[angelofmusic2112]

I've posted this before, but here once again, is the book from the TV series. Possession of such a book is punishable by death!

[angelofmusic2112]

When I opened it, there he was, Ursus.

Dr. Zaius - So you opened the door and met Ursus!? Really Cool! :cool:


:lol:rotfl:lol

[angelofmusic2112]

I watched Planet of the Apes today just to see when Landon last appears on screen in the movie.

A gorilla strikes him and he falls off of the cliff into the water below making a big splash onto his back. Then two gorillas drag his unconscious body from water and onto the shore. That's it! That’s the last we see of him. The next time we see him is after he’s been lobotomized!

That's a good sized gap for his adventure on the Planet of the Apes. I think Planet of the Apes Conspiracy is going to rock! It'll probably address Cornelius and Zira's charge of heresy too.

[Hasslein]

Well to me Sideshow issuing slippers for characters that wear boots is as big a mistake as Conquest putting human shoes on all the ape feet. Accuracy & consistency, should not be much to ask!


Wow, it's good to see this thread active again.

The apes in Conquest didn't design their clothes, or the shoes they wore, their masters did, so IMHO I don't think there is an inconsistancy, unless you want to make the argument that ape feet wouldn't fit, which I think they could. Maybe a bit snug, but...

I love Conquest....

[stickman]

Hey Angel, great shots on your customs.

Dr. Z Congrats on being the first to get the mighty General. He looks great. Try white balancing your camera. Is there any chance we can get a SideShow side by side comparison? I want to compare the color in the outfits and see how the heads look. Thank you.


Angel, sorry I didn't make the post office. I got carried away this week. I will go Monday. I spent the day trying to reorganize my collection. Here is a tub of stuff that I'm hoping to sell so if there is anything anyone wants, you guys get first dibs. I'd be happy to trade, :)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/Stickly/IMG_2018.jpg

[Ironman1188]

Honestly, I've never even looked at the feet of the male Mutants. Thanks for sharing. Are you really getting boots for yours?
Eventually. I want at least the main mutants accurate.
I watched Planet of the Apes today just see when Landon last appears on screen in the movie.

A gorilla strikes him and he falls off of the cliff into the water below making a big splash onto his back. Then two gorillas drag his unconscious body from water and onto the shore. That's it! That’s the last we see of him. The next time we see him is after he’s been lobotomized!

That's a good sized gap for his adventure on the Planet of the Apes. I think Planet of the Apes Conspiracy is going to rock! It'll probably address Cornelius and Zira's charge of heresy too.
I am most anxious to see how they write this "conspiracy" story. However, after Landon is struck on the head during the hunt, he is part of the humans captured that day that fell into the hole. It will be interesting to see how they write themselves out of that hole.
Wow, it's good to see this thread active again.

The apes in Conquest didn't design their clothes, or the shoes they wore, their masters did, so IMHO I don't think there is an inconsistancy, unless you want to make the argument that ape feet wouldn't fit, which I think they could. Maybe a bit snug, but...

I love Conquest....

I know the apes didn't design the shoes. However, the cost cutting measure of putting them all in shoes was nothing more than just that. Chimp feet would never fit in those tiny little human shoes.

And, Sticks, I sent you an email.

[Ironman1188]

Was sitting on the couch today and the postman came to the door and delivered a box. I was thinking while I was opening it, "I don't remeber ordering anything". When I opened it, there he was, Ursus. I hate to say this but Hot Toys left SS in the dust on this figure. He looks like he just walked of the scren. I'm not a double dipper but if HT releases more of the ones SS already did, and they look as good as this, I want them! The only issue is his hat. It is made like Hasbros and limits his head turning. I am hoping that if you get one Angel that you will re-cast it and make the flap in the back out of the material you used for the SS Ursus.

I was sitting on my couch yesterday as well. Postman came. No apes :monkey2, just bills. :banghead

[angelofmusic2112]

KFog was asking me if I had any extra masks to sell of the Fat Man from Beneath the Planet of the Apes. Turns out I have four (4) of them available, in addition to one (1) red robe that I’m willing to sell. One mask per person, first come first served. Send me a private message [PM], that’s how I’ll determine who the first four people are and no other way.

I’ll ship each unpainted mask to you for $7 each. You must paint it yourself; I am NOT willing to do this.

I also have one (1) red robe for sale. (Denise made an extra one and then had me pick out the robe that I liked best for my figure. That means you’re getting leftovers. Sorry.) I’ll ship it to you for $3.

If you want any of these items you better be quick!

BTW - Payment not received by this coming Saturday will be resold to another interested party.

(Here's a picture of those things and our new kitten we named Milo.) :angelsmil

[Ironman1188]

I was looking, :monkey2 wanting (the Gorillas mostly, and lamenting my lack of funds. :banghead

and now this. :banghead :monkey2 :banghead :monkey2 :banghead

[angelofmusic2112]

Wow, it's good to see this thread active again.

The apes in Conquest didn't design their clothes, or the shoes they wore, their masters did, so IMHO I don't think there is an inconsistancy, unless you want to make the argument that ape feet wouldn't fit, which I think they could. Maybe a bit snug, but...

I love Conquest....

Me too! Love it! :joy

[angelofmusic2112]

Hey Angel, great shots on your customs.

Dr. Z Congrats on being the first to get the mighty General. He looks great. Try white balancing your camera. Is there any chance we can get a SideShow side by side comparison? I want to compare the color in the outfits and see how the heads look. Thank you.


Angel, sorry I didn't make the post office. I got carried away this week. I will go Monday. I spent the day trying to reorganize my collection. Here is a tub of stuff that I'm hoping to sell so if there is anything anyone wants, you guys get first dibs. I'd be happy to trade, :)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/Stickly/IMG_2018.jpg


How much to you want for the EMPTY tub Sticks? :lol:rotfl:lol

[stickman]

How much to you want for the EMPTY tub Sticks? :lol:rotfl:lol



Wow, you're brutal. :D


IM I responded, I hope it works out. I figured you and Angel would want these for kitbashing. Jessica could probably have turned the Japanese soldier into an ape. He's a good size for that.

[stickman]

Leave me an email IM, As it stands you'll be getting first dibs, thanks.

Here is what I need to buy for my shoot this afternoon, holy smokes they cost $16.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/Stickly/paparazzi-actionfigures.jpg

It's crazy when you put it into perspective, so I'm willing to let this go so I can get these. Unfortunately I only need them for this opening shot and then they go on a shelf.

[Hasslein]

Angel, you've probably already answered this, but how did you make the logo for the "Horse Race" collar? And how did you attach it? I always wanted to make that outfit.

[angelofmusic2112]

Angel, you've probably already answered this, but how did you make the logo for the "Horse Race" collar? And how did you attach it? I always wanted to make that outfit.

Hasslein - I hand painted that horse on the red cloth. I did have to attach it.

[angelofmusic2112]

Wow, you're brutal. :D


IM I responded, I hope it works out. I figured you and Angel would want these for kitbashing. Jessica could probably have turned the Japanese soldier into an ape. He's a good size for that.

I was only joking Sticks, hope I didn't offend. Thanks for the offer, but I'm going to pass on these buddy. I don't see any use for them in my little world.

However, I might be interested in a trade of C & Z after all. I think I can find a use for them. If you're still interested, what can we work out? If not, that's fine.

[angelofmusic2112]

Sticks - I don't get it, what's up with the paprazzi toys? Why do you need to shoot them?

[Ironman1188]

Sticks, I emailed ya back!

[angelofmusic2112]

I was not counting on doing this, and I never really saw this coming, but some things just seem to occur unexpectedly. I’m glad this happened last night.

I looked at my gorillas last night, and I thought to myself “Many of these gorillas need more hair, like in the first installment.” It turns out this quest started to unfold last night for me, and I’m working on it once again right now. In addition to that, those 2 female apes and Dodge are also in the pipeline and being worked upon today.

I’m hoping to have it all off of my dining room table by tonight. I can see the difference in the gorillas. I hope you will see it too. Later ape fans!

[angelofmusic2112]

FYI – The red robe and one Fat Man mask has been sold. :cool:

Three Fat Man masks are left. Send me a PM if interested.

[Ironman1188]

Angel, would you be able to save one of those Fat Man masks until I get some income flowing? I just can't miss out!!

[angelofmusic2112]

I was not counting on doing this, and I never really saw this coming, but some things just seem to occur unexpectedly. I’m glad this happened last night.

I looked at my gorillas last night, and I thought to myself “Many of these gorillas need more hair, like in the first installment.” It turns out this quest started to unfold last night for me, and I’m working on it once again right now. In addition to that, those 2 female apes and Dodge are also in the pipeline and being worked upon today.

I’m hoping to have it all off of my dining room table by tonight. I can see the difference in the gorillas. I hope you will see it too. Later ape fans!

Well here are the gorilla heads with more hair added. Can you even tell? While working on the final gorilla head, I bumbled upon a really neat sculpting technique for the hair. Look at 2nd head from the left. His hair seems messier than the others. That's something new I just learned how to do. I’ll be using that method more often on future sculpts.

[angelofmusic2112]

Look at the time! Not sure I'll meet my deadline of getting these all done tonight. I've only got a little energy left; I'm starting to sputter out. Back to the female apes for a tad.

Breaks over. :(

[angelofmusic2112]

Here are the 2 female apes. You can see the different layers of apoxie. They just happen to be different colors from the sample pack I bought.

The one chimp has a weird nose. Galen’s mom actually has a very weird nose that is similar to that.

[stickman]

Angel, No worries. I love the sarcasm. The little paparazzi figures are for an opening I'm doing for GI JOE. It'll be kinda like a Red Carpet affair, you'll see.


IM I'll put all that stuff aside for you. I knew someone would want them.


I gotta get back to work for now

[jungle jom]

Here are the 2 female apes. You can see the different layers of apoxie. They just happen to be different colors from the sample pack I bought.

The one chimp has a weird nose. Galen’s mom actually has a very weird nose that is similar to that.

Wow... Look at the colors... Were you at Woodstock Angel?
'

[angelofmusic2112]

Purty purty colors...:peace:peace:peace

[angelofmusic2112]

The apes in Conquest didn't design their clothes, or the shoes they wore, their masters did, so IMHO I don't think there is an inconsistancy, unless you want to make the argument that ape feet wouldn't fit, which I think they could. Maybe a bit snug, but... I love Conquest....

I know the apes didn't design the shoes. However, the cost cutting measure of putting them all in shoes was nothing more than just that. Chimp feet would never fit in those tiny little human shoes.

You guys are being silly. Who really cares? It's only a SciFi movie. If the apes feet in human shoes bothers you, think about this:

Dr. Zaius wearing riding boots? Ouch!
General Ursus and the other gorillas wearing boots? Ouch!
Several Chimps in the TV series wore gorilla boots? Ouch!
Finally, Apes in Conquest of the POTA wearing human shoes?

Why am I even talking about this silliness? It's not even real. Apes just look good wearing human shoes and boots! :horror

[angelofmusic2112]

I am just glad there weren't wearing human flip-flops! :lol

[angelofmusic2112]

Angel, would you be able to save one of those Fat Man masks until I get some income flowing? I just can't miss out!!

Okay. But answer me this. How can you buy Hot Toys and not be able to afford my $7 mask??? :monkey3

[Ironman1188]

Its called consistency. And accuracy. Of all people, I thought YOU would be most inclined to agree, what with your attention for detail.

[Ironman1188]

Okay. But answer me this. How can you buy Hot Toys and not be able to afford my $7 mask??? :monkey3

Thats easy.
I bought and paid for the HT's back in January when I was working and had money.
If you can't afford to hold one, because someone else wants it, I understand, thats ok.

[angelofmusic2112]

Here's an update to the generic female apes. "Zira-like" hair was added to each of them today. Tomorrow I hope to add wrinkles to their faces. Lastly, more minor tweaking will occur. I'm sure of that. Then the really yucky part... painting.

[creecher]

Just recieved the Hot Toys Ursus and Soldier. :woo I've got a visitor, so later peeps.

[creecher]

Dr. Z Congrats on being the first to get the mighty General. He looks great. Try white balancing your camera. Is there any chance we can get a SideShow side by side comparison? I want to compare the color in the outfits and see how the heads look. Thank you.

http://i32.tinypic.com/n3roew.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/ms0opi.jpg

http://i28.tinypic.com/wusec8.jpg

As many items as possible have been recycled to be used in each of the gorillas.i.e. the outfits, boots, hands and hair. All the apes have the same basic cloth outfit. Crimson brown in colour. The sculpts, tunics, gauntlets, ammo pouches, backpack and mancatcher on the Captain and Soldier are all shared. The Captain and General both share the same rifle. General Ursus doesn't have a pole gripping hand, all the other hands are the same.

Each figure has something unique. Ursus has the different armour, helmet, face sculpt, pistol and holster. It's a disappointment to find Ursus's pistol cannot be held by the mighty General, and that his helmet still hasn't been done justice by a collectibles company. They could have easily made his helmets flap/fringe out of a pliable material or pleather, but instead it's an inflexible fully formed plastic. Then again, if it had ended up looking like the Sideshow version there would have been something to really complain about. A moulded leather would be the ideal. Something that strikes me is how conically shaped his gauntlets are. To me they look oversized and wrong, but I'm no expert.

The Captain has the painted vest, belt, pistol and holster, and the flag. Whilst the Soldier has the club, key, bandolier, and different rifle. Fortunately the relaxed hands on the soldier are able to hold the club and key.

[angelofmusic2112]

After seeing these new Hot Toys - I'm really glad I didn't get any of them. For that much money, I'd expect so much more. The best thing, to me, are the silver plates mounted on the general’s vest. That part looks really good. Overall the body & clothes are very similar to Sideshow’s. Not worth the price difference between Hot Toys and Sideshows. The helmet and the real hair of this piece are also very disappointing to me. Okay I'm done now Hot Toys fans. Go ahead and bash me now. :o

[Ironman1188]

I won't bash you, as i don't have them in hand to compare them. I don't see, from any of the pictures I have seen, that the Ht body resembles the Sideshow one. Going by past HT bodies that I do have they are much better bodies. As for the outfits? They look much better done and much more screen accurate than what Sideshow offered. Again, what SS gave us was great for its time and I am thankful for them. I am also thankful for the ApeJoe apes which were the only apes in town for their time. So far I think the Ursus hair looks the best of the three. And the helmet, despite it being molded, is still way more accurate than the pin head helmet SS gave. Overall the total attention to detail is leaning in HT's favor thus far. Hopefully this does not change once they are in hand.

[angelofmusic2112]

Ironman - What's important here? I think it's important that all the people buying these Hot Toys really really like them and that they find that price justified by it's quality.

Dr. Zaius gave it a wonderful report as well.

It'll be intertesting to see how everyone else feels about them. If everyone wants to modify it (in the way Jessica is), that sends a really bad message to me about this very expensive toy.

[Ironman1188]

But angel, how many of Sideshow's apes have you modified? How many other folks' modifications have we seen? So far the biggest complaint I've seen posted is about the hair, and thats been pretty much a split decision. I can't wait to get mine and I certainly hope I feel the same way I do now.

[Hasslein]

Wow, that close up of HT Ursus, he looks just like Urko, Ursus not so much. Thanks for the comparison photos. Say what you will about Hasbro, I'm still a fan because they never had ridiculously high price points. I wish I could purchase the Hot Toys tunic alone...

[Ironman1188]

Actually, in that pic I don't see Urko OR Ursus. And, hasbro had they used a better body and better sculpts may well have kept their line going.
Still, I would surely love to find a way to re-hair the hasbro versions.

[Protozaius]

I think it's important that all the people buying these Hot Toys really really like them and that they find that price justified by it's quality.

From what I saw at SDCC first hand, I KNOW that I will be one of those satisfied customers. :naughty

Personally, I think its exciting that any company is making new stuff for us Ape fans to buy... albeit expensive. And for that company to be Hot Toys, well... we Ape fans should be counting our lucky bananas. :banana:banana:banana

[Protozaius]

Just recieved the Hot Toys Ursus and Soldier. :woo I've got a visitor, so later peeps.

Now that you have received all three Hot Toys Apes, any chance that we can see some group shots soon? :monkey3:monkey3:monkey3

[Protozaius]

Wow, that close up of HT Ursus, he looks just like Urko, Ursus not so much.

What is throwing me off is the brown highlights on Ursus's face. Wasn't the good general nearly jet black in color? :confused:

[Hasslein]

I was excited when I saw them, though I don't like the gorrilla head sculpt, but when I saw the price, I thought it was a giant middle finger to everyone interested...

I know I'm in the minority, but I like the hasbro hair... I still like the hasbro gorrillas best...

[creecher]

After seeing these new Hot Toys - I'm really glad I didn't get any of them. For that much money, I'd expect so much more. The best thing, to me, are the silver plates mounted on the general’s vest. That part looks really good. Overall the body & clothes are very similar to Sideshow’s. Not worth the price difference between Hot Toys and Sideshows. The helmet and the real hair of this piece are also very disappointing to me. Okay I'm done now Hot Toys fans. Go ahead and bash me now. :o
Not a Hot Toy fan so don't look to me to give you your jollies. :lol

For that much money they could have done alot more too. Just get a silver felt marker pen and colour in the Sideshow blocks on his vest, shoulder armour, and gauntlets and you'll have the same thing. For some reason the shoulder armour sits better on the HT version, and don't flair outwards so much. The boots are comparable in quality. The Sideshow boots being slightly larger and the buckles more noticeable because they coloured them in with, perhaps, a silver marker. :lol I actually like them better. The cloth is the same just a different colour. Sideshows sculpt is black and the creases aren't as well defined. HT sculpt is brown, as is their helmet, with the glyphs being black. Sideshows is vice versa.

I'll get a group shot soon.

[Hasslein]

What is throwing me off is the brown highlights on Ursus's face. Wasn't the good general nearly jet black in color? :confused:

Depends on which version of Beneath you watch, the colors have been tampered with so much with each subsequent release...:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

[Protozaius]

Depends on which version of Beneath you watch, the colors have been tampered with so much with each subsequent release...:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

Do you have any screen grabs that show a brown Ursus? I'm curious. The color in that last version of Beneath (the one I got in the Caesar head) is a bit darker than any previoius versions but he still looks black in my eyes.

Speaking of color tinting, at least the corn field in the original is finally green again... unlike the grey field in the laserdisc version. :horror:horror:horror

[angelofmusic2112]

But angel, how many of Sideshow's apes have you modified? How many other folks' modifications have we seen?

Ironman - You're right. I have modified nearly all of my Sideshow figures. But it's not because I was unhappy with any of them. The only reason I modified any of the ape sculpts was to create some "new" characters, or to create a "greater variety" amongst my collection. In fact, the only real head modification I ever did was to open the ape mouths for a bit more variety. It turns out, in my opinion, that this is actually a better look for all of the apes.

If you think about it, I only did a few modifications to my Sideshow figures because I was unhappy with them.

I repainted Zira’s shoes the correct color –brown!

I darkened most of the gorilla bandoliers a much darker shade of brown.

Lastly, I made General Ursus a much better helmet. (I also slid his gun holster to the opposite side of his body, but that’s hardly a modification.) Those are the only changes I did to these POTA characters.

Oops! Jungle Jom also made a better blanket/poncho for slave Taylor. Thanks JJ!

I never modified any of the other Sideshow POTA figures. I don't think any changes were needed. I liked the rest of the SS figures right out of the box! I guess I’m just a big fan of the Sideshow Product. To me, I got more bang for my buck with Sideshow, even at $50 a SS figure.

Like I said in a post earlier today, I honestly hope that those who bought the new Hot Toys are "tickled pink" with them. Peace Ape Brothers! Peace. :peace

[Protozaius]

I was excited when I saw them, though I don't like the gorrilla head sculpt, but when I saw the price, I thought it was a giant middle finger to everyone interested...

Really? It's that a bit harsh? Knowing how much Hot Toys charges for figures, I was actually pleasantly surprised by the cost. The bird didn't appear to be flipped in my particular direction.

I know I'm in the minority, but I like the hasbro hair... I still like the hasbro gorrillas best...

Every company has it's champions. Sometimes it's fun to be in the minority. :D

[angelofmusic2112]

When is Jessica going to be back? I need a rest from all this posting... :lol

[Ironman1188]

I was excited when I saw them, though I don't like the gorrilla head sculpt, but when I saw the price, I thought it was a giant middle finger to everyone interested...

I know I'm in the minority, but I like the hasbro hair... I still like the hasbro gorrillas best...

I didn't see a giant middle finger at all. As a matter of fact I was pleasantly surprise by HT giving the POTA a lower pricepoint.

I think hasbro had decent faces on their gorillas, even the rest were decent simian sculpts, just not all screen accurate. I think the hair, however, was terrible and hurt the line. One could look past the outfits at the price they were selling for but the hair should have either been done better or molded.

God, I hope I still like the HT's once I get them. :monkey3

[creecher]

I think you'll like them Ironman. They're a step up, I think, but only another step. They have their bad points but mainly because of the overlap and price point. Cheaper than other Hot Toys, which makes Sideshows shine, but still, the more bang for you buck has always been Sideshows forte, until recent years.

The angrier look is closer to the films and the hair gives it an appeal, for me anyways. The plus is, more apes, outfits and accessories to broaden your collection.

Don't have much time, so these pics will have to suffice.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2zdvy9u.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/qpj893.jpg

[kfog41]

I will have to say that I am just glad that Hot Toys has did these Planet of the Apes figures. I agree that they are a bit pricey, but it is encouraging because this may very well be the beginning of more acurate characters to the Apes line. I am looking forward to what they may come up with next! Maybe The Presidents of the Assembly, more mutants, a better Brent sculpt, Dodge, Landon, some crazy looking wild humans, Lucius, Armondo, ect. They could have just as well not made any at all! I believe that you should get what you pay for and that they (Hot Toys) should listen to the feedback of their buyers. I will still buy these, but lets get them as film accurate as we can because We deserve it for shelling out a premium price. I also believe that Hot Toys, Sideshow, and Hasbro Apes can compliment each other depending on how you use them. Angel, Opening the mouths of the SS apes was a masterfull idea and You literally made them look better that way! Kudos Brother!:banana

[Hasslein]

Do you have any screen grabs that show a brown Ursus? I'm curious. The color in that last version of Beneath (the one I got in the Caesar head) is a bit darker than any previoius versions but he still looks black in my eyes.

Speaking of color tinting, at least the corn field in the original is finally green again... unlike the grey field in the laserdisc version. :horror:horror:horror

No, I've never seen his face brown, I was joking... As I've said before I'm irritated with the tampering of the color of the gorilla tunics in Beneath.. Planet & Battle they are still navy, but someone wanted to change them in Beneath and make them black... I don't know what else they altered...

[Hasslein]

Here is my motocycle cop gorilla. I picked up this $8 digital camera from big lots, as you can see its not even worth that. I was debating whether to use the white helmet, or stick with the black helmet as the one had in the (gasp) Burton movie.

[stickman]

Angel, and Kfog,


Sorry, I haven't gotten out yet, I know, but I've been very busy. I will get them by this coming weekend. I've been working 18 hours days on the set and have someone special coming to see me for the next tow days. I should be able to get the head and cane in the mail by Friday, sorry, I hope you understand.

I'm going to bash my Apes, I can't wait for them. :)

[Ironman1188]

Hasslein, where did you get that motorcycle? That looks great.
Yes, Angel's work on opening the SS apes mouths added some variety and detail to them that was missing. I would love to see if the same thing could be done to the hasbro versions.
I'm not holding my breath for any humans in this line from HT (although I would LOVE to see Nova look like Linda Harrison!) but I certainly hope for more apes.
With any luck maybe Jess might have some info about that when she returns.
And, speaking of Jess :
HI JESS!!! :wave

[Ironman1188]

Has anyone who got the HT apes done any swapping to see how the SS look in the HT unis and vice versa?

[angelofmusic2112]

Here is my motocycle cop gorilla. I picked up this $8 digital camera from big lots, as you can see its not even worth that. I was debating whether to use the white helmet, or stick with the black helmet as the one had in the (gasp) Burton movie.

Hasslein - Looks Great! Thanks for sharing with us. :)

[angelofmusic2112]

Angel, and Kfog,


Sorry, I haven't gotten out yet, I know, but I've been very busy. I will get them by this coming weekend. I've been working 18 hours days on the set and have someone special coming to see me for the next tow days. I should be able to get the head and cane in the mail by Friday, sorry, I hope you understand.

I'm going to bash my Apes, I can't wait for them. :)

That's fine Sticks. Thanks for letting me know.

BTW - Check out this 3 pack of poseable 1/6 scale skeletons.
http://www.goheroshop.com/Shop_item.php?id=37&cat=2&sub=0#

[angelofmusic2112]

Thanks to all who bought the extra (unpainted) Fat Man masks and the red robe. I have none left. :)

[angelofmusic2112]

I've been debating on selling these 1/6 scale -Dr. Zaius glyphs which I bought from Matt Sotis last year. I paid $40 to Matt for these. I haven't used them. They're for the costume of Dr. Zaius (as seen in Beneath the Planet of the Apes).

Matt is no longer selling these as his mold went bad. According to Matt, the first few sets he made came out the best.

I have one of the very last casts he made from his mold. These aren't all that crisp or sharp if you ask me. I don't see myself using them unless I use them on a background ape. They are thin (which I like), but I prefer the finer details in his first pulling from the mold.

I also have the really THICK glyphes that ProtoZaius had originally bought from Matt. I now own these after a trade PZ and I made. I used the THICKER glyphes on my Dr. Zaius last night, because I really like details in them.

Please let me know if any of you might be interested in this extra set I have... if so, I can post pictures of them later tonight.

[Hasslein]

Hasslein, where did you get that motorcycle? That looks great.


It was a from the GI Joe Electra Glide Harley Davidson Cop that came out a few years back...

[Ironman1188]

Good catch. That was too expensive a hasbro item when it came out and i've never been able to secure loose ones for my CHiP's figures.

[Hasslein]

I picked up two of them when they were at big lots, I think they were $20 each... Funny, I emailed the picture to a friend, and they said "What's with the Eric Estrada monkey?"

[Ironman1188]

DAMNIT!!! Why can't there be a Big Lots near here!!
I bagged a number of my hasbro apes from the KB Toy Liquidators, butthey never had the cycles.

[Ironman1188]

Hey!! Has anyone found a way to make extra chimp/orangutan feet shoes? Once I get the rest of the custom ape sculpts that I want (a ways off, but trying to plan ahead) I would hate to have to keep their feet hidden.

[Hasslein]

Thanks to all who bought the extra (unpainted) Fat Man masks and the red robe. I have none left. :)

Yay! Now my mutant circle will be complete.. Curly can go back to the stooges...(I was using him as fatman ..) :chew:chew:chew

[Ironman1188]

Yay! Now my mutant circle will be complete.. Curly can go back to the stooges...(I was using him as fatman ..) :chew:chew:chew

You have GOT to post a picture of that!! :D

[angelofmusic2112]

Hey!! Has anyone found a way to make extra chimp/orangutan feet shoes? Once I get the rest of the custom ape sculpts that I want (a ways off, but trying to plan ahead) I would hate to have to keep their feet hidden.

A mold could be made easily for the monkey feet Ironman. However, if you want shoes that actually slide onto (and over the existing human feet), it would be be best if you actually cut the original rubber ape shoes in half. Then molds would be made of the two halves. Of course, the new resin shoes would have to be glued back together and painted. Are you going to start making molds at some point? It's easy to do, but expensive and time consuming.

[angelofmusic2112]

Yay! Now my mutant circle will be complete.. Curly can go back to the stooges...(I was using him as fatman ..) :chew:chew:chew

Ironman is right Hasslein. Hook us up with some pictures! :wacky

[Ironman1188]

A mold could be made easily for the monkey feet Ironman. However, if you want shoes that actually slide onto (and over the existing human feet), it would be be best if you actually cut the original rubber ape shoes in half. Then molds would be made of the two halves. Of course, the new resin shoes would have to be glued back together and painted. Are you going to start making molds at some point? It's easy to do, but expensive and time consuming.

Hmmm, is there a way to make them out of vinyl/rubber like the SS ones. That way any brand figure can wear them?

[angelofmusic2112]

:huh:huh:huh

[angelofmusic2112]

Here are the extra Zaius Glyphs I talked about eariler today. If someone is interested in them (either trade or purchase) please let me know.

What would I be willing to trade? Sideshow's green coveralls and green feet from Caesar.

[angelofmusic2112]

ProtoZaius – What do you think the next four Conspiracy cards will be?

Dr. Zaius?
Dr. Galen?
Dodge?
Taylor?
Perhaps a brand new ape altogether?

:angelsmil

[Hasslein]

Okay here is a Medicom Taylor Astronaut with beard, I cut off the heads & swapped them, with a McFarlane Movie maniacs poster(it looks MUCH better than the photos)... I always wished McFarlane would license the apes. And in his swan song as the Fatman -
Mr. Curly Howard....:banana:chew:banana:chew

[Protozaius]

ProtoZaius – What do you think the next four Conspiracy cards will be?

Dr. Zaius?
Dr. Galen?
Dodge?
Taylor?
Perhaps a brand new ape altogether?

:angelsmil

Some clues might be found in the numbering of the cards already released.

John Landon #1 of 9
Lt. Steward #3 of 9
Dr. Milo #5 of 9
General Ursus #7 of 9
Chief Marcus #8 of 9

I'm assuming that #2 is going to be an astronaut. Since the likeness of Heston is now an issue, I'm thinking that it will be Dodge.

I'm also thinking that #4 might be Dr. Zaius since he is probably the most important ape in the story since he and an unnamed surgeon were the ones that went to work on poor Landon. Could the surgeon (with a new christened name) be one of the cards as well?

Also one of the books talked about in the Conspircy series concerns Taylor and his first run in with the mutants, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the later cards is Mendez or Ongaro.

[Ironman1188]

Has any one found "decent" pics of these cards? Or the Omega poster yet?

The medicom transformation looks cool, but Curly looks like he just got caught in between the spikes of the cage and door. LOL

Very cool nonetheless!!
Thanks for sharing!!

[angelofmusic2112]

Okay here is a Medicom Taylor Astronaut with beard, I cut off the heads & swapped them, with a McFarlane Movie maniacs poster(it looks MUCH better than the photos)... I always wished McFarlane would license the apes. And in his swan song as the Fatman -
Mr. Curly Howard....:banana:chew:banana:chew

I love the creativeness here! Keep it coming Hasslein. :angelsmil

[angelofmusic2112]

Some clues might be found in the numbering of the cards already released.

John Landon #1 of 9
Lt. Steward #3 of 9
Dr. Milo #5 of 9
General Ursus #7 of 9
Chief Marcus #8 of 9

I'm assuming that #2 is going to be an astronaut. Since the likeness of Heston is now an issue, I'm thinking that it will be Dodge.

I'm also thinking that #4 might be Dr. Zaius since he is probably the most important ape in the story since he and an unnamed surgeon were the ones that went to work on poor Landon. Could the surgeon (with a new christened name) be one of the cards as well?

Also one of the books talked about in the Conspircy series concerns Taylor and his first run in with the mutants, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the later cards is Mendez or Ongaro.

ProtoZaius - I like your thinking concerning the Conspircy cards. That's why I asked you. I figured you had given it some thought also. Thanks for sharing. I agree with what you're saying. Let's see what unfolds...


:)

[Ironman1188]

Some clues might be found in the numbering of the cards already released.

John Landon #1 of 9
Lt. Steward #3 of 9
Dr. Milo #5 of 9
General Ursus #7 of 9
Chief Marcus #8 of 9

I'm assuming that #2 is going to be an astronaut. Since the likeness of Heston is now an issue, I'm thinking that it will be Dodge.

I'm also thinking that #4 might be Dr. Zaius since he is probably the most important ape in the story since he and an unnamed surgeon were the ones that went to work on poor Landon. Could the surgeon (with a new christened name) be one of the cards as well?

Also one of the books talked about in the Conspircy series concerns Taylor and his first run in with the mutants, I wouldn't be surprised if one of the later cards is Mendez or Ongaro.

I would agree with Dodge as #2. Although if this is Landon's story "after" the hunt I wouldn't have expected to see Dodge or Stewart. Maybe #4 and #6 will be Cornelius and Zira as they left with Milo. And #9 to be Dr. Zaius? Then again, if Chief Marcus is in there it could conceiveably open up the possibilities to anyone, even those only mentioned.

[angelofmusic2112]

I would agree with Dodge as #2. Although if this is Landon's story "after" the hunt I wouldn't have expected to see Dodge or Stewart. Maybe #4 and #6 will be Cornelius and Zira as they left with Milo. And #9 to be Dr. Zaius? Then again, if Chief Marcus is in there it could conceiveably open up the possibilities to anyone, even those only mentioned.

I would imagine that Lt. Stewart is shown on a card only because her mummified body will have to be removed from the Icarus by Dr. Milo and company as they purge the ship.

Maybe Landon will also tell the apes a story (concerning Dodge and Stewart) just before getting his lobotomy? Surely he'll talk about operating manuals and the location of the Icarus in the Forbidden Zone.

It'll be really neat reading about this conspiracy! How deep will it go? Who will it involve? It gets the wheels turning huh?

[Ironman1188]

Good point on Stewart.
I always believed that Landon's reason for the lobotomy was the blow to his head. It will be interesting to see how they "re-write" things.

[Protozaius]

Also the story could start off before the launch of the Icarus. This would explain the Stewart card as well. Her card has an image of her both dead and alive. Furthermore, we could then see how and why each astronaut was picked for the mission. What made Landon the "Golden Boy of the Class of '72"? Perhaps we will get a peak behind his All-American image... before the building of that life sized bronze statue doomed to turn green.

Just a thought.

[Ironman1188]

Also the story could start off before the launch of the Icarus. This would explain the Stewart card as well. Her card has an image of her both dead and alive. Furthermore, we could then see how and why each astronaut was picked for the mission. What made Landon the "Golden Boy of the Class of '72"? Perhaps we will get a peak behind his All-American image... before the building of that life sized bronze statue doomed to turn green.

Just a thought.

That might be a good page or two of background, but I certainly hope it doesn't play a big part. Its a Planet of the Apes book. I want stories that revolve around simian interaction. I want orangutans, chimpanzees and gorillas. GORILLAS. GORILLAS!!!
Maybe a bit of mutant thrown in there, but I think that a story could have been made centering around Milo's whole salvaging of the ship and subsequent repair and Escape. As far as I was always concerned, Landon was done after the 1st hunt.

[angelofmusic2112]

Also the story could start off before the launch of the Icarus. This would explain the Stewart card as well. Her card has an image of her both dead and alive. Furthermore, we could then see how and why each astronaut was picked for the mission. What made Landon the "Golden Boy of the Class of '72"? Perhaps we will get a peak behind his All-American image... before the building of that life sized bronze statue doomed to turn green.

Just a thought.

Good point PZ! This new Apes book(s) is someting I'm REALLY looking forward to! :love:blissy:love

[jungle jom]

I for one am looking forward to Landon's story. His attitude toward the apes will be quite different from Taylor's. Landon and Taylor never saw eye to eye on much. I also believe, unlike I-man, that the blow to Landon's head had nothing to do with the operation. I never trusted Zaius' story of the operation saving his life. After all, he said the beast could never speak.

[kfog41]

Just off the current topic here! Has anyone ever noticed that everyone in Conquest of the Planet of the Apes wore sweaters including the Apes! The sweaters coincided with the jumpsuits! The Orangutans wore Yellow sweaters, The Chimps Green, The Gorillas Red! Has anyone here ever noticed this tidbit of information?:confused:

[jungle jom]

Just off the current topic here! Has anyone ever noticed that everyone in Conquest of the Planet of the Apes wore sweaters including the Apes! The sweaters coincided with the jumpsuits! The Orangutans wore Yellow sweaters, The Chimps Green, The Gorillas Red! Has anyone here ever noticed this tidbit of information?:confused:

Sweaters?.... What sweaters? There were no sweaters...

[stickman]

Hey there Ape Friends,

I wanted to let you guys know that I should be able to drop by the USPS tomorrow. I have the PZ cane and hs of Taylor in in front of me so rest assured that that they will be off to you soon.

[kfog41]

Sweaters?.... What sweaters? There were no sweaters...

Hey JJ! Just watch the scenes closely! You can see the sweaters on the Apes that have the Jumpsuits opened at the top. Such as the Orangutan that is asked to get the book, Lisa the female Chimp, and a Gorilla that is holding the butt of a rifle over the Governor towards the end of the movie.

[kfog41]

Hey there Ape Friends,

I wanted to let you guys know that I should be able to drop by the USPS tomorrow. I have the PZ cane and hs of Taylor in in front of me so rest assured that that they will be off to you soon.

Hi Stickman! I hope that you are feeling better! Thanks for the heads up! No worries here, Kent.

[angelofmusic2112]

I for one am looking forward to Landon's story. His attitude toward the apes will be quite different from Taylor's. Landon and Taylor never saw eye to eye on much. I also believe, unlike I-man, that the blow to Landon's head had nothing to do with the operation. I never trusted Zaius' story of the operation saving his life. After all, he said the beast could never speak.

I'm 100% down with you on all this, really good points Jungle! REALLY GOOD! :joy

[angelofmusic2112]

Just off the current topic here! Has anyone ever noticed that everyone in Conquest of the Planet of the Apes wore sweaters including the Apes! The sweaters coincided with the jumpsuits! The Orangutans wore Yellow sweaters, The Chimps Green, The Gorillas Red! Has anyone here ever noticed this tidbit of information?:confused:

The turtlenecks can barely be seen. You really do have to look hard for them. I definitely remember Caesar wearing a green one. I seem to recall the female orangutan wearing one as well... never paid it much attention to any of the other apes because it's really hard to see under all of the ape hair.

Hi Jess, hurry back to us!:grouphug

[stickman]

Hi Stickman! I hope that you are feeling better! Thanks for the heads up! No worries here, Kent.

No, I'm good.:confused: Thanks. Very busy, my 1 minute Opener is coming along, and I have an old :love in town. She's currently out but will be back soon. :D

PZ, and anyone else that may be interested in the Michael Crawford's review of the DR.Z PF you can find it here: http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_081409a.htm

[Protozaius]

Thanks for posting the review, Sticks... Michael seems to hit all of the points that I did in my review.

And even though I still REALLY like this piece, I ultimately agree with his two and a half star rating (out of four) for the PF.

[Ironman1188]

I for one am looking forward to Landon's story. His attitude toward the apes will be quite different from Taylor's. Landon and Taylor never saw eye to eye on much. I also believe, unlike I-man, that the blow to Landon's head had nothing to do with the operation. I never trusted Zaius' story of the operation saving his life. After all, he said the beast could never speak.

True, but my point was more that his story would be post hunt, not pre launch. The blow to his head, resulted in his capture after hunt #1. If he spoke or escaped it would have been mentioned or alluded to during all the hub bub with Taylor. Zaius at the least would have been aware. I look forward to seeing how they pull it off, but I don't see much story for Landon other than what he sees through his cage and leading up to his lobotomy.

[kfog41]

Obviously Landon was Lobotomised, but what if He had some drug in his system that did not allow him to focus or be aware of his surroundings. That would have been cool if they Had him come around later and He was cognitive and aware! Just a thought!:rolleyes:

[Ironman1188]

I don't know how they're going do pull it off. I'm sure that there will be those that like its direction and those that don't. Either way I'm looking forward to reading it.
Right now I just want to find a decent sized image of the Omega poster by Sanjulian.

[angelofmusic2112]

True, but my point was more that his story would be post hunt, not pre launch. The blow to his head, resulted in his capture after hunt #1. If he spoke or escaped it would have been mentioned or alluded to during all the hub bub with Taylor. Zaius at the least would have been aware. I look forward to seeing how they pull it off, but I don't see much story for Landon other than what he sees through his cage and leading up to his lobotomy.

I don't know how they're going do pull it off. I'm sure that there will be those that like its direction and those that don't. Either way I'm looking forward to reading it.
Right now I just want to find a decent sized image of the Omega poster by Sanjulian.


:blah:blah:blah They'll pull it off. I'm not in agreement with you I man. (So what else is new?) Dr. Zaius is not entirely truthful in my eyes. As far as you not seeing much story for Landon (other than what he sees through his cage) leading up to his lobotomy...

Well, lets just say if you're right that would be very disappointing book. That would certainly make for a really "suckie" read! It would be so boring that way. That would definitely blow!

[Ironman1188]

Wow, YOU don't agree with me? Thats such a surprise.:horror
I agree that Zaius is less than forthcoming with all of his knowledge. However, in that talk he had with Taylor in his office, he would have indicated something about interrogating his companion. I think the Zaius aspect might be smaller than we think in this new story. Maybe Marcus is there because Landon also escaped and he had to hunt him down again?
Or.... yes Landon was operated on, but was it an actual, successful lobotomy? Does Landon's story take place after his being singled out by Taylor?
:rolleyes:

[Dr_Zaius]

Okay all, here are some side by side pics of Hot Toys Ursus and Sideshows Ursus. At one time, I hailed Sideshows Planet of the Apes as the best I had ever seen. And they were. But now, with the Hot Toys release, IMO HT kicked Sidshows version to the curb. I used Sideshow Ursus that has the corrected fix flap done by our own Angel!

I am not too good with the camera Sticks and I have a Sony Cybershot 5.0. Don't know how to adjust the lighting on the thing.:monkey2

[Protozaius]

I like how the Hot Toys Ursus looks a bit bulkier. That Buck body was way too slim for most gorillas.

And Hot Toys has the correct number of rows of armour plating. :banana :banana :banana

Yeah, the Sideshow Ursus was not the line's most brightest release.

[Ironman1188]

I like how the Hot Toys Ursus looks a bit bulkier. That Buck body was way too slim for most gorillas.

Yeah, the Sideshow Ursus was not the line's most brightest release.

That statement could bridge the Hasslein curve!!! :monkey5

[Dr_Zaius]

I would say that HT is a smaller PF version that you can actually play with:monkey1

This is by far the Planet of the Apes figures you have only wished for so far!!

[Ursus3978]

Okay all, here are some side by side pics of Hot Toys Ursus and Sideshows Ursus. At one time, I hailed Sideshows Planet of the Apes as the best I had ever seen. And they were. But now, with the Hot Toys release, IMO HT kicked Sidshows version to the curb. I used Sideshow Ursus that has the corrected fix flap done by our own Angel!

I am not too good with the camera Sticks and I have a Sony Cybershot 5.0. Don't know how to adjust the lighting on the thing.:monkey2


That looks really good. I can't wait to pick mine up.
The SS one still has a certain charm to it and I'm glad I'll own both.

-Ray

[Ironman1188]

RAY!!! long time buddy!!
How've you been?
Any new work to share? Ape art?
Missed you around these parts!!

[jungle jom]

Wow, YOU don't agree with me? Thats such a surprise.:horror
I agree that Zaius is less than forthcoming with all of his knowledge. However, in that talk he had with Taylor in his office, he would have indicated something about interrogating his companion. I think the Zaius aspect might be smaller than we think in this new story. Maybe Marcus is there because Landon also escaped and he had to hunt him down again?
Or.... yes Landon was operated on, but was it an actual, successful lobotomy? Does Landon's story take place after his being singled out by Taylor?
:rolleyes:

If you recall...

In the talk he had with Taylor in his office, Zaius did indicate something about Landon... I paraphrase:

Zaius: And there's the one you call Landon...

Taylor: Then you admit...

Zaius: I admit that, where there is one mutant, there is another and another a whole nest of them. Where is your nest Taylor?

And no... I believe Landon's story will be coming to an end by the time he is singled out by Taylor. He may be fine in the story until that point and the lobotomy may be the big reveal at the end of his story. After all, you can't really have your central character walking around in a daze drooling.

[Protozaius]

That looks really good. I can't wait to pick mine up.
The SS one still has a certain charm to it and I'm glad I'll own both.

-Ray

Ursus3978... wow... one of the original posters to this thread!!! Would you believe your first post on this thread is #14!!! Now it's nearing 14,300!!!

Strange... we are coming up on the 4th anniversary of this thread. Wouldn't it be interesting to list which post # everyone who currently posts here started at?

Ironman #1
Stickman #2
Protozaius #9

[jungle jom]

Ursus3978... wow... one of the original posters to this thread!!! Would you believe your first post on this thread is #14!!! Now it's nearing 14,300!!!

Strange... we are coming up on the 4th anniversary of this thread. Wouldn't it be interesting to list which post # everyone who currently posts here started at?

Ironman #1
Stickman #2
Protozaius #9

Jungle Jom, My first was Post #1187 for me... I, as always, was late to the party