Save the Planet of the Apes!!! - PIX ADDED!!

[angelofmusic2112]

Whoa! That Blu-Ray looks really cool! Great Packaging!

[angelofmusic2112]

The five films - 'Planet Of The Apes', 'Beneath The Planet Of The Apes', 'Escape From The Planet Of The Apes', 'Conquest Of The Planet Of The Apes', and 'Battle For The Planet Of The Apes' - have all been specially prepared for this release, including a never-before-seen in the US unrated version of 'Conquest of the Planet of the Apes'. :monkey5:monkey5:monkey5

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/message/47883

:angelsmil

[Protozaius]

The five films - 'Planet Of The Apes', 'Beneath The Planet Of The Apes', 'Escape From The Planet Of The Apes', 'Conquest Of The Planet Of The Apes', and 'Battle For The Planet Of The Apes' - have all been specially prepared for this release, including a never-before-seen in the US unrated version of 'Conquest of the Planet of the Apes'. :monkey5:monkey5:monkey5

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/message/47883

:angelsmil

I didn't know that this Conquest version was even possible! Hope it's the true original version of the film and not some manufactured special edition like I'm told Fox did to Alien 3. It will be interesting to see how this verion was "restored".

Strange... there is no word on whether the Blu-Ray version of Battle is the longer version that was released on DVD recently.

[Protozaius]

Blu-Ray set looks fantastic.

http://thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx/covershd/planetoftheapes40yrsetbrd.jpg

http://thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx2/planetoftheapes40yrsetopenbrd.jpg

That does look like a tidy little set. Looks like it might be time to buy a Playstation 3. :rolleyes:

[snickertown]

SNICK - You can buy a whole package of those little brass nails for about 89 cents at Walmart. Do I really need to to mail you some? Please remember to drill a pilot hole into the wheel before you hammer a brass nail into the tire.

I think I'll just apoxy it. How many glyphs do you need?

[angelofmusic2112]

I didn't know that this Conquest version was even possible! Hope it's the true original version of the film and not some manufactured special edition like I'm told Fox did to Alien 3. It will be interesting to see how this verion was "restored".

Strange... there is no word on whether the Blu-Ray version of Battle is the longer version that was released on DVD recently.

What did they do to Alien 3 Proto? I think CONQUEST will have the bloody sequences that were cut from the film. (That's what I'm hoping for!) Did you ever see the cards made by Inkworks? They had a couple of the bloody CONQUEST pictures on the collectors cards.

[angelofmusic2112]

Blu-Ray set looks fantastic.

http://thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx/covershd/planetoftheapes40yrsetbrd.jpg

http://thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx2/planetoftheapes40yrsetopenbrd.jpg

The pictures on each of the discs don't look the actors who portrayed our beloved apes in the movies! They look like ordinary people that were made up. Maybe I'm wrong, those pictures aren't very big.

[Jessica]

Angel, you've got eyes that are sharper than Jungle's!! Those look like Apemania apes to me...they do not look like the actors that we all know and love. I don't like that photo of Zira...

[Jessica]

Angel, I wanted to say how ingenious you are with how you have fixed the Barney Rubble feet!!! Bravo!!!

I was going to try to fix the Barney Rubble feet of my only human, but I was going to add and sculpt it with Apoxy...

[Jessica]

Blu-Ray set looks fantastic.

http://thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx/covershd/planetoftheapes40yrsetbrd.jpg

http://thedigitalbits.com/articles/miscgfx2/planetoftheapes40yrsetopenbrd.jpg

At first glance, the photos of the new blue ray took my breath away...but looking at them now and realizing that they are not the actors I grew up with....it's taken away the wind from my sails...:monkey2:monkey2:monkey2

[stickman]

:monkey5Wow, that set looks amazing!

[Hasslein]

The Disc art may be temporary. It was posted on the yahoo group by an insider that both versions of Battle will be on the disc, via seamless branching.

[Hasslein]

My main issue with the set is that they aren't including the Beneath NATO film...

[Protozaius]

What did they do to Alien 3 Proto?

Here's what Amazon said about the Alien 3 DVD:

This isn't a "director's cut"--David Fincher refused to have any involvement with this release--but a 1991 work-print that runs 29 minutes longer than the theatrical version, and has now been restored, remastered, and finished off with (unfortunately) cheap new CGI.

The fan reaction to this re-edit has been mixed... with some fans criticizing Fox for cheaping the overall film in the effort of merely presenting the longest possible cut of the film and thus sell more DVDs. Also, when Superman the Movie was first shown on TV they boasted nearly an hour worth of cut footage. But this destroyed the film pacing by adding film that was never meant to be seen by the director.

So I just don't want a few bloody scenes re-inserted just to sell more DVDs... for it to be some aproximation of what the film was supposed to be. I want the film to be the film J Lee Thompson showed at a preview in Phoenix back in 1972... the one without the cumbersome editing of the "happy" ending, with blown up close up shots of Caesar's eyes with dubbed dialogue and Lisa's whimpering "No" line. I want it to present, fully, the film's true violent thrust.

Was there any part of Caesar's original speech cut from the final cut? Does it still exist and will in be re-serted? Have all of the film's trimmings (both bloody and non-bloody) been accounted for? Do they have some sort of editiorial map as to where these shots are supposed to be inserted to maintain the late Thompson's vision? These questions are the ones I want answered... just to clarify what we are getting in this DVD set.

[Protozaius]

My main issue with the set is that they aren't including the Beneath NATO film...

I've never heard of this. I LOVE the NATO presentation reel from the original film with all of the deleted and alternate footage it contains. It would be cool to see the one prepared for Beneath.

Was there a NATO reel made for all of the Apes films?

[enaud]

Jess - Here are the square "Barney Rubble" feet of a typical Sideshow figure that I converted to the more realistic feet like that of Prisoner Taylor. I'm still painting them as you can see... but my 2 mute humans (Sideshow Bridgekeeper) now have better feet.
Great job Angel!Those look 100% better.

[Protozaius]

The Disc art may be temporary.

I sure hope so... but I kind of doubt it. :rolleyes:

[Hasslein]

I've never heard of this. I LOVE the NATO presentation reel from the original film with all of the deleted and alternate footage it contains. It would be cool to see the one prepared for Beneath.

Was there a NATO reel made for all of the Apes films?

I've asked this of others more knowledgeable, and it seems to be the general consensus that POTA and Beneath were the only films with NATO presentations. Beneath can be downloaded somewhere, I forget where, but its awesome, with unused footage & alternate takes, I like it better than Planet's, a real gem. I'll try to find the address so you can download it.

[Jessica]

Hasslein, I would love for you to find the address so I can see for myself what all the raving is about. This is the first I have heard of the NATO presentations.

[Hasslein]

You can download the Beneath NATO in the yahoo group.

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MF2TSPj4vdGXpshNQ1-VHHTExjRBhvLTxr-NiWdTw70A06KlmrmWYon2o-ezNidUL8i0siY_9UFTk0Ptvi6yd9QQisLEUWqf/Misc./Stuff/Downloads.htm

[Protozaius]

You can download the Beneath NATO in the yahoo group.

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MF2TSPj4vdGXpshNQ1-VHHTExjRBhvLTxr-NiWdTw70A06KlmrmWYon2o-ezNidUL8i0siY_9UFTk0Ptvi6yd9QQisLEUWqf/Misc./Stuff/Downloads.htm

Thanks for the link... I'll check it out. :D

[Protozaius]

You can download the Beneath NATO in the yahoo group.

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MF2TSPj4vdGXpshNQ1-VHHTExjRBhvLTxr-NiWdTw70A06KlmrmWYon2o-ezNidUL8i0siY_9UFTk0Ptvi6yd9QQisLEUWqf/Misc./Stuff/Downloads.htm

The link you provided is not working. I've scanned the Yahoo POTA group for it but found nothing.

[Jessica]

I tried to download, but it was taking too long. Is that what you meant by not working? I'll try to download it tonight when I get home.

[westbatman]

I don't post very often but I'm selling some of the figures I have. I wanted to give this board a chance before I put them on ebay.

I also have an Urko head from someone on this board, I believe it was Ironman. Also a few Gorilla head from "frontline" of the first gorilla seen on film in the first movie and a Dragon 1/6 WWII saddle that would work great for a Gorilla saddle. The figures do not have the original boxes. Please email me if interested at futura55@msn.com

You can check my feedback on ebay to show that I am trustworthy and won't rip you off as I'm not one of the regular posters her.

Thanks and sorry for the intrusion, Andy

[angelofmusic2112]

Angel, I wanted to say how ingenious you are with how you have fixed the Barney Rubble feet!!! Bravo!!!

I was going to try to fix the Barney Rubble feet of my only human, but I was going to add and sculpt it with Apoxy...

Jessica - So you're going to make a barefooted human then? Who are you going to make?

[angelofmusic2112]

At first glance, the photos of the new blue ray took my breath away...but looking at them now and realizing that they are not the actors I grew up with....it's taken away the wind from my sails...:monkey2:monkey2:monkey2

I hear that... that shouldn't have apemania guys on the discs. That's screwed up.

[Jessica]

I don't know what barefoot human I'm going to make. I only have one human right now (Robert Patrick), and I really hate his Barney Rubble feet. He's always naked and barefooted...

[angelofmusic2112]

I want the film to be the film J Lee Thompson showed at a preview in Phoenix back in 1972... the one without the cumbersome editing of the "happy" ending, with blown up close up shots of Caesar's eyes with dubbed dialogue and Lisa's whimpering "No" line. I want it to present, fully, the film's true violent thrust.

I agree wholeheartedly with you Proto. However, J. Lee Thompson himself said CONQUEST had to be edited and that a great deal of the violence & gore was removed in order to get the PG-13 rating. They wouldn't “pass” it the way he originally wanted it. I'd really like to see the R-rated (or un-rated version).

[angelofmusic2112]

I've never heard of this. I LOVE the NATO presentation reel from the original film with all of the deleted and alternate footage it contains. It would be cool to see the one prepared for Beneath.

Was there a NATO reel made for all of the Apes films?

Huh? NATO reel made for all of the Apes films? What are you talking about?

[angelofmusic2112]

Great job Angel!Those look 100% better.

Thanks buddy - those square feet really had to go bye-bye, considering mute humans don't wear shoes.

[angelofmusic2112]

I don't know what barefoot human I'm going to make. I only have one human right now (Robert Patrick), and I really hate his Barney Rubble feet. He's always naked and barefooted...

Aside from a mute human, who else would you possibly want with better looking feet? Everyone else has shoes.

[Hasslein]

I have dial up and I think it took 4 hours to download and save the NATO film. But as I said, its well worth it. If the link isn't working, maybe try the group mirror site. The link worked for me.

[Hasslein]

The link isn't working for me now either. I wonder what happened.

[Hasslein]

Try this one.

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Downloads.htm

[Jessica]

Aside from a mute human, who else would you possibly want with better looking feet? Everyone else has shoes.

I thought it would be good sculpting practice. If I goober it up, it'll be inside the shoes...:D

[Jessica]

Try this one.

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Downloads.htm

That one worked for me. So neat to see some of the deleted scenes. Now I'm going to have to rewatch beneath...

[ymba]

Fellow Ape freaks,

Just bought a prisoner taylor on Ebay for $45. I guess you can get deals on EBAY if you looked. The last beared Taylor I bought cost me $200 so I guess it just all even out.

I am thinking of taking these out and displaying these figures but they are just too damn nice. What do you think ? Cheers YMBA

[angelofmusic2112]

I'm all about taking them out of the package YMBA. I enjoy my collection more that way! I don't plan on selling them, so they're not a "future investment" for me. I just want to enjoy them now.

[angelofmusic2112]

There's something very special about waking up early... being alone in a house that's so peaceful. I love working on projects at this time of day. No distractions, total serenity.

While everyone was sound asleep this morning, I sculpted more on the statue of Caesar.

I'm very pleased with the way he's coming along. I’m looking forward to having him in the midst of the other apes!

[angelofmusic2112]

From what I can tell. All pictures ever posted on this ape thread can be found here. That's kind of cool.

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/misc.php?do=showattachments&t=1982

[Jessica]

YMBA--why don't you sell one of your bearded Taylors and recoup the money on Evilbay. I didn't realize you could find great deals. Good for you!!

I also like to play with my figures. I don't like them boxed although some people like them that way. The ones I have boxed is because they're way up high in the closet and I'm too lazy to bring them down...they're just a couple of Ursus and a Dr. Zaius...but I have them lose already, so it will be an extra effort for me to take them down.

[angelofmusic2112]

Jess -I was looking at your fruits, baskets, the ape coat rack today. Those are just spectacular. You really need to return to those and get moving on that! Such detail! Zowie! Love those pix.

[Jessica]

OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! My council at Starbucks went well...I met a fellow ape fan, and it was great! Dan will talk to his partner, and they will work on my makeup. We will set a date one of these weekends sooner is better than later for them, to make a mold of my face....I am in ape heaven...

[Jessica]

Angel, I have way too many unfinished projects. I keep adding and never finishing. I will work on your Cornelius suit and not work on anything else until it is done. Last night I spent several hours brushing up the Mego-sized ANSA outfits that I will send out on Monday. I finished up all of the embroidery and added all the snaps to the three outfits. Each top has a set of six snaps, and I made three complete outfits...that's 21 snaps in one session....gahhhhhhh!!!!

[Jessica]

From what I can tell. All pictures ever posted on this ape thread can be found here. That's kind of cool.

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/misc.php?do=showattachments&t=1982

Angel, that is so cool! I didn't know such a thing existed!!

[Jessica]

I was looking at the coat rack on the piano last night. I still have to sand down the rough areas..but it will get there someday. My little ape market will be so cute when done...but it's so highly detailed that the task is daunting. I'm going to spend 20 minutes picking up the dining area...and then I have to go drop off a check to pay for piano lessons. When I get back, it's going to only be all about Cornelius...

[Jessica]

I was watching UFO and fell asleep while watching it. I guess all the excitement and not being able to sleep for the last couple of nights have really wore me out. I'm so totally stoked about my makeup. I want to tell the whole world, and then again, I don't in case I jinx it. Is this really true? Am I dreaming? Dan said that if I can handle the claustrophobia of when they make a mold of my face, which he thinks will be an hour or so...then I can handle the claustrophic qualities of the makeup. I am so ready.

I'm not sure if I will be able to rip the makeup off my face as Roddy did. That might hurt! I think the glues they use now are much less harsh, but I'll see how it goes. I've got very long hair so before they make a mold of my face, they're going to make me wear a bald cap. OMG OMG OMG!!

[Jessica]

The Lawgiver Mego-sized is on a shelf, awaiting a makeover. I still haven't purchased that tool that I need to fix it...because Apemania SUCKED my wallet dry...The hydrospanning of the Great Ape figure came to mind at the Mego Museum but the idea was shot down by one of the "experts" there...So I decided to just sculpt one. I need the practice anyway.

Can you tell I'm stalling? I should be sewing, but I'm stalling...

[Jessica]

I worked on Cornelius's suit on and off for awhile with lots of surfing inbetween. I have both sleeves sewn on (with the added seam, so both sleeves have two seams each like a real suit!!)...and for the most part, the check pattern still matches!! I will need to trim down the collar and slim the suit a little...it's 50% done, not counting the lining that I want to add. Yay me!!

[angelofmusic2112]

Charlton Heston always said that he came up with the idea that he would fall on, and detonate the doomsday device in Beneath the POTA. Prior to that suggestion by Heston, how was Beneath supposed to end?

[Jessica]

Here's the status of the jacket. I have to slim down the sleeves to match the rest of the jacket and it's just pinned in place...After I slimmed the body down of the jacket, the width of the sleeves no longer looked appropriate . I also opened up the lapel too much for the photograph but it's getting there. My camera sucks.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/Cornelius006.jpg

[Ironman1188]

Holy!!!! You are a sewing goddess Jess!!! That is beautiful!!

[stickman]

Great job indeed Jessica.


I thought that Beneath was to end with Nova giving birth to the first speaking human, and taylor and nova would begin a new tribe of talking humans. But, as we all know Mr. Heston wanted OUT. I'm sure Jom, or PZ would know the answer to this question.

[jungle jom]

Great job indeed Jessica.


I thought that Beneath was to end with Nova giving birth to the first speaking human, and taylor and nova would begin a new tribe of talking humans. But, as we all know Mr. Heston wanted OUT. I'm sure Jom, or PZ would know the answer to this question.

Here is a link to some of the drafts of the "Beneath" screenplay where Nova, Taylor and Brent survive:

http://pota.goatley.com/scripts.html

Check out "Planet of the Apes Revisited" there are two different drafts.

Also check out, at the same link, towards the bottom "Planet of the Men" a screenplay by Pierre Boulle. It is very very dark and was a spec script for a sequel to the original written by the man who wrote the original novel. A very interesting and depressing read, but worth any ape fan's time.

[Ironman1188]

AHHHHHHHHH!!!
Friggin' ADA!!
Just got this respomse after I convinced her she needed to redo Sawyer and Milla:

Sorry, i can only replace for all my client if they purchase again for the other heads next time. I am not able to just ship those 2 heads for free.

Now, its not like I'm trying to be cheap but this whole thing was her mistake, AND I've ordered over a dozen other heads from her, but I ain't ordering anything else without these two already in my hands.
:banghead :banghead :banghead

[Jessica]

Holy!!!! You are a sewing goddess Jess!!! That is beautiful!!

Thanks IM and Sticks. I was feeling a bit disheartened but after hearing your comments, I feel empowered. I am not sure if I should keep reworking the sleeve or just start over...but I'll make it work. I have to revisit it again. Whenever I come upon a problem, it helps to walk away so I can retackle it with more vigour.

Also, thank God for this thread. :family Nobody at home understands my fascination with the movie and the apes. My sister was not very thrilled to hear about my future plans with the makeup, which has been my dream for the last 35 years. That's 15 more years than I have known my husband!! Let me just say that there is no support on my end...but whatever! I don't really give a rat's behind. I'm getting it done no matter what!! :maul


Ironman, I'm really sorry to hear about Ada. That's such a sour deal and more salt in the wounds. If you purchase the Bill Murray head, which looks really killer, make sure you get her to send you Sawyer and Milla. I got the Burke sculpt you sent me. It's perfect for a 9" body, too large for a Mego...but not impossible to work with. I don't know what to do with it yet, but I will make it work. Perhaps purchase a 9" body for it and cut off the neck and resculpt the neck. Burke sculpt #1's eyes are still way too close together, but this sculpt is way better than sculpt #2.

[kfog41]

Hey all! I couldn't sleep, so I just decided to jump on the computer. I was watching a tv guide channel on my Cox cable and they were showing Comic Con stuff. They even showed two people dressed up like Gorillas pounding their clubs on something towards the ground. Pretty cool stuff, I wish I could have gone.:monkey2

[snickertown]

Ironman, I'm really sorry to hear about Ada. That's such a sour deal and more salt in the wounds. If you purchase the Bill Murray head, which looks really killer, make sure you get her to send you Sawyer and Milla. I got the Burke sculpt you sent me. It's perfect for a 9" body, too large for a Mego...but not impossible to work with. I don't know what to do with it yet, but I will make it work. Perhaps purchase a 9" body for it and cut off the neck and resculpt the neck. Burke sculpt #1's eyes are still way too close together, but this sculpt is way better than sculpt #2.

We should have an enlarged Burke head in a couple of days. Ian (Dr. Enlarger) sent me an email saying he is working on it. I'll post some pix when I get them and if anyone is interested they can get Burke through him. I don't think enlarging the head is going to help the eyes being too close together but we'll see.

IM - Your relationship with Ada is bordering abusive. :horror Did you get the Bill Murray head? Was it the correct size?

[Ironman1188]

Ironman, I'm really sorry to hear about Ada. That's such a sour deal and more salt in the wounds. If you purchase the Bill Murray head, which looks really killer, make sure you get her to send you Sawyer and Milla. I got the Burke sculpt you sent me. It's perfect for a 9" body, too large for a Mego...but not impossible to work with. I don't know what to do with it yet, but I will make it work. Perhaps purchase a 9" body for it and cut off the neck and resculpt the neck. Burke sculpt #1's eyes are still way too close together, but this sculpt is way better than sculpt #2.

We should have an enlarged Burke head in a couple of days. Ian (Dr. Enlarger) sent me an email saying he is working on it. I'll post some pix when I get them and if anyone is interested they can get Burke through him. I don't think enlarging the head is going to help the eyes being too close together but we'll see.

IM - Your relationship with Ada is bordering abusive. :horror Did you get the Bill Murray head? Was it the correct size?

The better Burke is certainly good news.
No, I'm holding off on any other heads until this is resolved. I went back and counted, I have 27 of her heads and 12-15 more that I'm contemplating. I was quite surprised to hear from her twice more last night in more lengthy mails than I am used to. I explained to her that poor customer service is what did a company called ANDGOR in and that she wouldn't want that to happen. Hopefully I'll hear a better reply from her today or that'll be it for me with her.

[angelofmusic2112]

Here is a link to some of the drafts of the "Beneath" screenplay where Nova, Taylor and Brent survive:

http://pota.goatley.com/scripts.html

Check out "Planet of the Apes Revisited" there are two different drafts.

Also check out, at the same link, towards the bottom "Planet of the Men" a screenplay by Pierre Boulle. It is very very dark and was a spec script for a sequel to the original written by the man who wrote the original novel. A very interesting and depressing read, but worth any ape fan's time.

Thanks JJ - I glanced these over and they look very interesting! I'm going to print some of these off and read them at me leisure!

[angelofmusic2112]

Here's the status of the jacket. I have to slim down the sleeves to match the rest of the jacket and it's just pinned in place...After I slimmed the body down of the jacket, the width of the sleeves no longer looked appropriate . I also opened up the lapel too much for the photograph but it's getting there. My camera sucks.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/Cornelius006.jpg

Hey! Why is that newspaper tucked under the arm of Cornelius? :dump

I'm with the others Jessica. I also think the suit is looking great!

I've learned with every break that I take; I almost always come back and tweak something. Caesar is having things adjusted, added and tweaked a little bit at a time. In similar fashion, you work the same way. Keep it up! :)

[Jessica]

Angel,

It was too boring to just photograph him without a prop and he looked kind of goofy holding a flower...:lol

[Jessica]

I'm off today....WHOOO HOOO!!!! :chew (there's no daycare for the next 3 weeks :monkey4, so my mom, my husband and I are tag-teaming until the 3 weeks are over and each staying home with the kids a coupe days out of the week )...

I'm going to take the kids to watch a movie today and we'll go out for lunch somewhere.

I will be off Thursday and Friday as well, so I only have a two-day workweek. :banana :banana

[Jessica]

I've learned with every break that I take; I almost always come back and tweak something. Caesar is having things adjusted, added and tweaked a little bit at a time. In similar fashion, you work the same way. Keep it up! :)

Maybe that's why I have so many projects going on at the same time...but I have too many projects that are undone, so I need to focus. Cornelius's suit WILL BE DONE:maul!!!

[Jessica]

Ironman, that totally sucks with Ada. If she does not provide good customer service for you, and you totally have a ton of sculpts you purchased from her, then she will lose out on the 15 you are contemplating. Good luck. It's really very difficult to deal with her, and that is such a shame.

[Hasslein]

I am curious what is on everyones top 3 wish list of sculpts? Armando was #1. Now my list is-

1. Dr. Hasslein
2. MacDonald (I'm going to take Kfog's Col Tigh suggestion, though)
3. Landon

Although he was high on the list, I'm staying out of this Burke mess, and I don't care for sculpted hair on the apes, that's why no apes, so that's my list. What's on everyone elses?

[snickertown]

You and Ironman and more forgiving than me. I simply won't be buying from her anymore.

ANG - From your email to God's laptop. :lol

The figure I'd like to see created is Kolp from Battle.

[Jessica]

I won't be buying from Ada either. Dealing with a cheat leaves a sour taste in my mouth. It's just too bad.

[stickman]

So Jessica,

What movie did you take the kids to?

[Jessica]

We went to see the 3D of Journey to the Center of the Earth.

[stickman]

We went to see the 3D of Journey to the Center of the Earth.

The reviews were poor but I've heard a lot of kids say they enjoyed it very much. Did you enjoy it?

[Jessica]

If you go expecting much, you will be disappointed. I didn't expect that much, but I screamed twice, so it was fun.

[angelofmusic2112]

I am curious what is on everyones top 3 wish list of sculpts? Armando was #1. Now my list is-

1. Dr. Hasslein
2. MacDonald (I'm going to take Kfog's Col Tigh suggestion, though)
3. Landon

Although he was high on the list, I'm staying out of this Burke mess, and I don't care for sculpted hair on the apes, that's why no apes, so that's my list. What's on everyone elses?

That's a good question Hasslein! I'm curious to see what's on everybody's mind as well. Considering I already have a Mr. McDonald and a Landon figure (that I'm very pleased with), I think the only humans I'd like to have is Kolp.

The top 3 apes sculpts on my list are Dr. Maximus, Honorious, and Julius. I'm not even concerned about hiring someone to do these 3 ape sculpts. I'm going to try my hand at making each of them eventually with a lump of clay. The real question here should be... do I use a big lump to make a bobblehead, or a little lump, and just try and save on clay? :rotfl

[Ironman1188]

I am curious what is on everyones top 3 wish list of sculpts? Armando was #1. Now my list is-

1. Dr. Hasslein
2. MacDonald (I'm going to take Kfog's Col Tigh suggestion, though)
3. Landon

Although he was high on the list, I'm staying out of this Burke mess, and I don't care for sculpted hair on the apes, that's why no apes, so that's my list. What's on everyone elses?

I have a head from the Formative International SOTW line of figures that I bought solely because of its resemblence to Eric Braeden. I'll try and dig him out and post a pic or two. I assume that they used that likeness because they did primarily military figures and He was in Rat Patrol back when he went by the name Hans Gudegast.

[Ironman1188]

You and Ironman and more forgiving than me. I simply won't be buying from her anymore.

If you saw my last few emails to her you may not think me so forgiving. But I can't just "stop" when she has two heads that are due me. I mwill admit that, should this be properly resolved, I may get others. Afterall, where else are you going to find some of the heads that she makes?
ie:
Charlie Watts
Keith Richards
David Wayne
William Peterson
Michael Douglas
Sean Penn

[angelofmusic2112]

If you saw my last few emails to her you may not think me so forgiving. But I can't just "stop" when she has two heads that are due me. I mwill admit that, should this be properly resolved, I may get others. Afterall, where else are you going to find some of the heads that she makes?
ie:
Charlie Watts
Keith Richards
David Wayne
William Peterson
Michael Douglas
Sean Penn

From your perspective Ironman, I certainly understand what you're saying. You're a very BIG collector of everything. I'm not. The apes alone are just draining my wallet, so I choose to buy only what I truly love! Perhaps I should have said, I choose to buy only what I can truly afford?

[angelofmusic2112]

If I had the money (and the space) the only other figures I think I would buy (or make) would be from Aliens, Lord of the Rings, X-Files, Terminator, and Mad Max.

Could you imagine how much more (financially) that would set me back? My ape projects would simply have to stop from a lack of funding. :(

That's why I don't bother collecting other figures. My 1st love will always be the apes. :)

[Ironman1188]

Thanks for sharing your pictures Ironman! I love it! I'm still looking forward to seeing Kyle Reese when completed in his trenchcoat and sneakers! (You have a sawed off shotgun right?)

Check out: IRONMAN, View Public Profile, and then Albums
Me too!! And yes, I will be modifying several weapons for multiple projects.

Have any of you guys ever seen 1/6-scale director chairs for sale? If not, I'm considering putting them on "wish list".

There was a version of a director's chair a few years ago, it was actually made to be a business card holder but it was very close to 1:6. I can't recall the company that made it though.

[Ironman1188]

Yeah, it would be cool to put my Lucas, Spielberg, Tarantino, Hitchcock and Serling in them and have them all sitting around a table of 1:6 scripts.

[Jessica]

I don't really have anybody on my list of wants. I don't collect anything beyond the apes. I would go for more orangutans and Julius, so I'd have the same list as Angel. I was thinking that since Angel was able to make Elta, he could probably do the same for the other orangutans!! I haven't seen LittleSoldierBoy's Julius but he looked fantastic when he started...

I'm going to have to check out Ironman's photos...

[Jessica]

Wow! Neat feature that I've never tried...seeing all the photos that have been uploaded. Thanks, Angel!!

That would make it easy when I'm trying to hunt for something in particular!!

[Jessica]

Have any of you guys ever seen 1/6-scale director chairs for sale? If not, I'm considering putting them on "wish list".

That would be a very cool project to do! They could be easily done...

[Jessica]

Hey all! I couldn't sleep, so I just decided to jump on the computer. I was watching a tv guide channel on my Cox cable and they were showing Comic Con stuff. They even showed two people dressed up like Gorillas pounding their clubs on something towards the ground. Pretty cool stuff, I wish I could have gone.:monkey2

Kfog, why don't you come to the Wonder Con in San Francisco in February 2009? It's not as large as the SDCC. Last year's Wonder Con counted about 29,000 guests. It usually occurs around the last weekend or so of February. I'm going to make that one, in full Zira gear.

[Jessica]

OMG! Please just end! This day is as slow as molasses going uphill in the frozen tundra...

[Jessica]

I haven't heard from my neighbor--you think I scared him away from our last meeting????

[kfog41]

Kfog, why don't you come to the Wonder Con in San Francisco in February 2009? It's not as large as the SDCC. Last year's Wonder Con counted about 29,000 guests. It usually occurs around the last weekend or so of February. I'm going to make that one, in full Zira gear.

I have never been to San francisco, even though I had an Uncle that lived in Daly City since the 1950's. Unfortunately, He passed away May of 2006. I still would love to check it out though. I always wanted to check out China Town!

[Jessica]

China Town in San Francisco is fun to explore on foot. Lots of fun stores with imported Chinese goodies. Very touristy, though...but if you're into Oriental bric a brac, it's quite fun.

[kfog41]

I'm more into the cuisine. I love to chow! Hey, is there an Italian neighborhood around there?:D

[snickertown]

I haven't heard from my neighbor--you think I scared him away from our last meeting????

Nah. I assume the next step is the lifecast. Did he give you any indication when they would want to do that?

IM - I didn't know you had my Aldo head. It's the gorilla head on the V costume. I was going to send you one. Luv the V figures.

[Ironman1188]

Nah. I assume the next step is the lifecast. Did he give you any indication when they would want to do that?

IM - I didn't know you had my Aldo head. It's the gorilla head on the V costume. I was going to send you one. Luv the V figures.

Didn't realize that was the Aldo. It was one of a few broken ones that you sent me quite a while ago, I tried my hand with a little 2 part filler and voila! instant gorilla sgt.
Thanks!! I loved the whole "V" series. It also had great potential but helped to kill itself off when it cut the cast.

[snickertown]

Didn't realize that was the Aldo. It was one of a few broken ones that you sent me quite a while ago, I tried my hand with a little 2 part filler and voila! instant gorilla sgt.


That's awesome! I'm glad you were able to use it. Oddly enough, I was going to use your Urko head for a SGT Gorilla or a helmet-less Urko.

Would it be too much to ask if you made a 1:6 spaceship from V? :)

[Ironman1188]

That's awesome! I'm glad you were able to use it. Oddly enough, I was going to use your Urko head for a SGT Gorilla or a helmet-less Urko.

Would it be too much to ask if you made a 1:6 spaceship from V? :)

No, it was an idea I had a ways back, and it may actually be easier than I first thought, and definitely easier than the Icarus. If it pans out I'll be sure to post it.

[Jessica]

Snick--the lifecast will be done soon--probably in a few weeks. We'll have to pick a weekend where we are all free, and we are all neighbors, so that makes it easy. I have never met Tom before, and he doesn't really need to be there for the lifecast since Dan can do that, but I'm sure he would like to meet with me to see what kind of looney I really am.

[Jessica]

I worked on the Cornelius outfit again last night. I started over, instead of trying to save what I have already begun. It made it a little easier...but I wish I had cut the lapel a little different...maybe I will re-do the collar so that the notch between the collar and the lapel are not so very apart. Isn't my Cornelius so cute in this photo??

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/Cornelius011.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/Cornelius015.jpg

[Jessica]

Oh...and I forgot that the underside of the lapel is the right side, so I will remove Cornelius's left facing and re-do so that the check pattern matches the right side of the outfit.

[Jessica]

Kfog--Thai food tastes way better than Chinese food...

There is North Beach, the little Italy of San Francisco...but the edge of Chinatown is slowly creeping into it.

[kfog41]

Thai food sounds good too, especially if it is spicy! Phoenix has a little bit of everything like most cities. I really love going to sushi restaurants when I have cash. I will get back into the swing of things soon. By the way, I see that Ada has corrected the Milla sculpt. I received an email in regards. I wonder why She has corrected everything but the Burke. I guess that is a squashed subject at this time. I see that Snick is doing something about it though.

[Jessica]

I got tired of my chimpanzees swooning over as I posed them last night, so I squeezed a little bit of Fray Check in their knee and ankle joints...and the part of the leg where it twists. So now they behave better when I pose them.

[snickertown]

I wonder why She has corrected everything but the Burke. I guess that is a squashed subject at this time. I see that Snick is doing something about it though.

Damn straight. I haven't heard back or received any pictures of Burke so I'm assuming the enlarging takes time. The price Dr. Enlarger charges is around $23.

JESS - Cool! I luv the jacket. Keep us updated with the lifecast. I can't wait to see it and hear about the experience of having it done.

IM - Is it possible for you to stop everything you're doing and work on the V ship? :lol That ship is so cool.

[Jessica]

Snick, $23 is better than $230 with bad customer service, right?

[Jessica]

I just heard from the makeup gurus...they are looking for a date that will work for us all....OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!! :banana:banana:banana

I don't know if I should whoop in excitement or cry....

My Planet of the Apes dream is about to come true.....Holy Mother of GOD!!!

[snickertown]

Snick, $23 is better than $230 with bad customer service, right?

JESS - You got that right, sister.

For those interested: the cockpit of the Icarus is being torn apart and being redone to be screen accurate.

JESS - We'll be marking our calendar. Will they be filming the lifecast procedure?

[Ironman1188]

Well, I had some lengthy email conversations yesterday morning with Ada. We seemed to straighten everything out and she said she would send the refixed heads to me. I went to work and when I came home late last night I got this:
I just notice that some of my clients told me you said a lot of netgative things about me all the time in the forum, why you do that? If I do not get any sales, you are happy? If my sales keep decreasing, I will not sculpt these kind of head anymore as there will be no more fun to me.
Why you have to do things have no good to yourself but also hurting other people? You are a very bad person and you will be off my mailing list as you do not respect me, do not respect my work and even say a lot of bad stuff about me in the forum all the time. That's a shame of you.
Apparently I'm taking a risk even posting this. I told her I never said anything in a forum that I hadn't said to her and that she shouldn't believe everything she hears. Hopefully I'll still be getting the heads that are due me.
:banghead

[Jessica]

Uh....I don't know what to say about that, Ironman. If anything, you were just venting your frustration due to her lack of good customer service. I don't know what clients she is talking about, but it's good to let others know what they could be getting into. You never said anything to negate her in an evil or malicious manner, none that I could see. You were just questioning her business ethics. Somebody is feeding fuel to her fire and it's definitely not you.

[Ironman1188]

It appears recasters have taken their toll on Ada now as she sent an email (not to me, guess I AM out) stating she will not be doing any uncommissioned celebrity sculpts. A shame as she did have a run of very nice sculpts.

[Jessica]

I didn't get that e-mail from Ada. As Snick said, I guess I am guilty by association as well. That is too bad, as has really beautiful sculpts and is one of the best artists out there.

[snickertown]

It apperas recasters have taken their toll on Ada now as she sent an email (not to me, guess I AM out) stating she will not be doing any uncommissioned celebrity sculpts.


IM - The worst part is you might not get the heads you need fixed.

Could my efforts to correct the Burke sizing issue be considered "recasting"? I bought 2 of them.

[Ironman1188]

IM - The worst part is you might not get the heads you need fixed.

Could my efforts to correct the Burke sizing issue be considered "recasting"? I bought 2 of them.

I would not cosider them to be. You are simply trying to rectify a sizing error that she refused to.

[Jessica]

Snick, you purchased two Burke heads directly from Ada. You did not purchase from somebody else that was selling a cast of her sculpt.

[Jessica]

IM - The worst part is you might not get the heads you need fixed.

Could my efforts to correct the Burke sizing issue be considered "recasting"? I bought 2 of them.

I am still hoping that Ironman gets it corrected. That would be the fair thing for Ada to do.

[Jessica]

I didn't get that e-mail, Angel. I can only surmise that she will no longer be running a poll and creating a sculpt of the celebrity with the most votes....or perhaps when many people ask her to make one sculpt she does it for fun without charging a commission fee, hoping to recoup costs from the sale of the casts.

[Ironman1188]

What happened with Ada? Did I miss something? Is she no longer doing celebrity sculpts?

She said she will not be doing any uncommissioned celebrity sculpts? What does that mean? What is a uncommissioned celebrity sculpt :confused:

She was making sculpts on her own, say of Chuck Connors, and selling them. No one commissioned it she just sculpted it and then sold them. She won't do that any more. From now on a sculpt must be commissioned before she will make it.

[Jessica]

Did you guys see these photos yet?

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/n514737698_330707_3490.jpg

[Jessica]

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/n514737698_330709_5423.jpg

[Jessica]

I have NEVER seen this one before. This is such a great photograph!!
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/n514737698_330706_2187.jpg

[Jessica]

I think I've seen this one before, but I have never looked at it closely enough. She is wearing peds on her feet.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/n514737698_330708_4797.jpg

[snickertown]

I think I've seen this one before, but I have never looked at it closely enough. She is wearing peds on her feet.


Cool pix! Thx for posting.

Okay. Conscience-wise I'm in the clear with Ada's breakdown. I'm leaving shortly to meet my sculptor to fix the Burke sculpt. :banana

[Jessica]

Snick--glad to see the dancing banana in regards to the Burke sculpt. It feels like positive energy.

[snickertown]

Snick--glad to see the dancing banana in regards to the Burke sculpt. It feels like positive energy.

Thank you! At very least we'll have a choice of which Burke head turns out best.

[kfog41]

Snick--glad to see the dancing banana in regards to the Burke sculpt. It feels like positive energy.

Yes Jess, that's what we need is "positive" energy. The more generated, the more likely everything will work out for everyone! Let's do it! Bring on the positive vibes. Right on!
:joy:banana:clap:elefant:bouncin:bounce :rock2 :blissy:ccheerlea:ted

[snickertown]

Yes Jess, that's what we need is "positive" energy. The more generated, the more likely everything will work out for everyone! Let's do it! Bring on the positive vibes. Right on!


KFOG/JESS - The positive energy must of worked. My sculptor and I sawed Burke in half. The head, compared to Brent, is too skinny. Thus, giving him the "pinhead" look. Using Brent as a guide my sculptor will widen the head to the proper size and everybody wins. We should have a new head by next Friday. Hopefully sooner. :banana

[Jessica]

Wow! That's a very good idea! I thought he was going to re-do the top half...didn't realize it could be fixed that easily. Can't wait to see it!!

[snickertown]

Wow! That's a very good idea! I thought he was going to re-do the top half...didn't realize it could be fixed that easily. Can't wait to see it!!

Okay. I see what you're saying. We could have worked it that way too.

For the record, I hightly recommend keeping a sculptor on retainer. You never know when you'll need one. Okay, he isn't really on retainer as much as working off money I loaned him. :lol

[kfog41]

Okay. I see what you're saying. We could have worked it that way too.

For the record, I hightly recommend keeping a sculptor on retainer. You never know when you'll need one. Okay, he isn't really on retainer as much as working off money I loaned him. :lol

My Mother is a sculpter of doll heads (porcelain) and I once asked her if She could ever do a smaller scale. She was not familiar with resin and whatever else We use in 1/6th scale. She is still going through Chemo for the next 8 days between Monday and Friday, but says thats She is doing fine. I think that once She is out of the woods, I may ask Her again about 1/6th scale sculpts. She does have a very good eye for detail because She made two sculpts of my Sisters just by looking at their baby pictures and they turned out great!

[Jessica]

Kfog, that would be great for your mom to get into. Once she gets her strength back and is out of the woods, she can put her creative energies into something for you. Good luck with her treatment.

[Jessica]

What are you working on, Angel? I need to get inspired!!

I've taken a long overdue powernap, but I'm sure I will pay for it tonight...

[kfog41]

Kfog, that would be great for your mom to get into. Once she gets her strength back and is out of the woods, she can put her creative energies into something for you. Good luck with her treatment.


Ha, Ha! She would laugh about that, because I have had her make more than my share of 1/6th scale Uniforms. She has made me Leather Pioneer (Mountainman) Uniforms, Santa Anna Soldier Uniforms, Spainiard Uniforms from the Spanish American War and so on. She is the queen of the sewing circle as far as 1/6th scale and larger goes. She is left handed and they say that people with an artistic gift usually are left handed. I do not know if that is true, so maybe we can have some left handers chime in!:gun

[Jessica]

Our daycare is closed for business until the last week of August, and this day was one of my days off. Yesterday we went to Felton (88 miles away one way) to catch a train ride to the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk. It was gorgeous. I have not been there for 30 years and it is even better now than I remembered.

Today I was ready to take the kids out to the movies again or go for a swim but the toddler was sick so he took a nap for most of the afternoon...and I've been unable to sleep for the past few nights from excitement over my makeup so I took advantage of the situation and fell asleep too.

Angel I thought you finished your Armando's paint. What you posted a few weeks/days back was just work in progress? I thought that it was done!!

I would love to see everyone else's work as well. Even if it's not a custom of what you are working on...how about posing your figures for some new photos? I remember how inspiring it was for me to see PZ's photos of the upgraded Cornelius and Dr. Zaius...still giggle about the simian choir.

[Jessica]

Anyway, Angel, thinking back about your Armando paint...he looked like he was done. You did a really swell job on him, and I don't know what other kind of tweaking you could do to him. He looks perfect now.

[Jessica]

Oh yuck...I'm just thinking about how I have to drag myself back to the office on Monday after having a four-day weekend. It's going to suck.

[stickman]

Hi Jess - I came home from a hard days work and I quickly drifted off while watching “The Ant and the Aardvark” cartoons. Do you remember them on the Pink Panther show?

I haven’t been motivated too much either Jessica. You’re not alone. I need inspiration and positive comments from people when I post things. That really seems to fuel my projects. Jungle Jom was always tremendous when it came to motivating me with his ideas, his kind words, and of course, his encouragement.

I’m simply unable to motivate myself now days. The past few months have actually proved that to me.

I haven’t even been able to muster up the "oomph", to paint my Armando sculpt, The President of the Assembly sculpt, Lawgiver sculpt and The Fat Man mutant mask. They’ve all been sitting here an eternity already! I need a serious kick in the shorts and I need it badly.

I know that I’d get motivated if the others (Kfog, Jungle Jom, enaud, and Ironman) were making things and sharing them with us. That would inspire me in the same way that new people on this thread inspire all of us. When the other guys here start posting their projects, I’ll certainly get motivated. Maybe someone here will do something that really energizes me. My tank is bone dry and I really need to be refueled.



Angel, How are the wagons coming along?

[Jessica]

Did you see that sticky thread about the kiss and tell contest? That sounds like a fun thing to try to enter...

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37667

[kfog41]

Hi All! What's up in Central City? I was checking out Monkey Depot and thought that these Mannequins were pretty cool. They would be good to pose hats and outfits on. I think that the sculpts are 1/6th scale also. :rolleyes:

[Jessica]

Kfog, I think they would be cool to also add/sculpt some clothing onto those and make additional busts for the mutants....maybe???

[Jessica]

Angel, did you send photos to the contest? I did, but I don't have any high hopes to win..you guys know my camera sucks. I took about 50 photos, and only picked one. If you sent a photo, can you e-mail it to me? I would love to see it.

Tonight's the deadline of the contest.

[angelofmusic2112]

Yes, I entered the "kiss and tell" contest Jessica. I didn't put any effort into it though. I took the pictures long ago, so it was just a matter of pulling them out of my photo archive.

I just spent the last 30 minutes working on the Caesar statue again. He looks soooo good! I’m going to be very proud of him once he’s completed.:angelsmil

[angelofmusic2112]

Kfog, I think they would be cool to also add/sculpt some clothing onto those and make additional busts for the mutants....maybe???

That would work, but for me, I think it would be much easier to just change the face and modify the one I already have. I'd love to see someone else do this though!

[Jessica]

That would work, but for me, I think it would be much easier to just change the face and modify the one I already have. I'd love to see someone else do this though!

I was trying to remember how yours looked...I know that it was exactly the way I would want it to be, especially around the bottom part of the statue, and I was trying to figure out how somebody would re-create that.

I can't wait for the unveiling of Caesar! Please don't make him so expensive that I can't afford him, 'K??? :banana:banana:banana

[Jessica]

Angel, I just e-mailed you my photo.

[angelofmusic2112]

Are you signing up for one already? Even without even seeing it? Thanks for the vote of confidence! :)

[Jessica]

Of course! But only if my chump change can afford it! Remember, I still have to scrape funds for my makeup.

[Jessica]

You guys think it's crazy if I buy a pair of black leather boots with the toe dents from Apemania for $350? I wonder if they make size 5.5??

Or should I just buy a pair of leather Dr. Zaius hieroglyph gloves for $150? I'm not sure if those would fit me well though, because I've got tiny hands.

[angelofmusic2112]

Of course! But only if my chump change can afford it! Remember, I still have to scrape funds for my makeup.

Chump change? You should have called in Chimp change.

[Jessica]

Chump change? You should have called in Chimp change.

:rotfl I should remember that!!

[Jessica]

I have $300 to spend at Apemania that I can't get back. I would wear the boots to work with whatever else I'm wearing. I just need to add $50 and maybe some more chimp change for shipping/handling. Those would be the most expensive shoes I would ever own.

[angelofmusic2112]

I would think that the gorilla boots would be more comfortable than the chimp shoes and that you'd probably be tripping over the "inner toes" of the chimp shoes.

I read somewhere that it took Roddy and Kim quite a while to get used to the chimp shoes.

If you wore a dress like Zira, the gorilla boots would not be seen that much. In your case, I'd say go for comfort. Do they really make them that small?

[angelofmusic2112]

I would wear the boots to work with whatever else I'm wearing.

I just caught this... :lol

[Jessica]

I hope they make them that small. Most nice boots start at 6 or 6.5, and that SUCKS!! Let's just say that if I could fit the boots, I would buy them. I have 18 or so pairs the last time I tried to count them.

[kfog41]

Jess, Couldn't you just modify regular shoes to look like Chimp shoes? That would be much cheaper and Who really looks down at the shoes?:horror

[Jessica]

I just had a great conversation with another ape friend, and he says he knows of a cheap way to get gorilla boots made. He is looking for the link for me. I just wonder if the riding shoes he is talking about comes in my size. That's what SUCKS. I can't find nice boots that fit me.

[Jessica]

My friend will also help me make the chimp boots...but I think I can MacGuyver them because I have held Bill Blake's chimp shoe in my very own hands and saw its construction.

These gorilla boots would be what I would wear around the office..you know...for kicking serious ***.

[Jessica]

Angel, I did submit that one photo...but I didn't receive a confirmation of receipt...did you receive something? Oh well. If nothing comes out of it, at least I had fun photographing my favorite couple today.

[angelofmusic2112]

I was watching the X-Files movie on DVD and I had the weird impulse to destroy something... in a creative way of course. Snickertown suggested this idea to me a while back... I used an extra pair of Hasbro pants I had and shreaded them.

[Jessica]

Bravo!! That looks WONDERFUL Angel!! What a super cool idea!!

I spent an hour or so chatting on the phone talking about apes, not much crafting...but the night is far from over.

[angelofmusic2112]

I should bloody up Taylor's throat a little bit too! When he eventually lands on the operating table of Dr. Galen, Zira will certainly be peeking under the blanket. (To see Taylors unusual clothing.)

[Jessica]

Aw shucks. I was too excited I guess. I didn't send the attachment. Ratz. Oh well. I may probably have won and not have known what to do with it. (Yeah, right...)!!

[Jessica]

I should bloody up Taylor's throat a little bit too! When he eventually lands on the operating table of Dr. Galen, Zira will certainly be peeking under the blanket. (To see Taylors unusual clothing.)

Are you sure that's what she's peeking at? :D:naughty

[angelofmusic2112]

Are you sure that's what she's peeking at? :D:naughty

I'm not sure if that's what Zira is looking at Jess. I'll say this. At least Zira noticed he had blue eyes!

[Jessica]

You forgot to send the picture!? C'mon :banghead

damned right I did! :banghead

I just sent it anyway, because I never received a reply...but it was thirty minutes after the cutoff...and it sucks because they should have sent me an e-mail saying they didn't see an attachment. :banghead:banghead:banghead

[Jessica]

Diggity Dang. I can't believe I did that to myself...and I've been on the computer most of the day. I can't believe I sent them an e-mail without the attachment. How dumb. Something better may come along...I just can't see it at this moment.

[Jessica]

I hope we can see whoever submitted photographs to the KISS and Tell contest. I'd like to see how mine would have compared to everybody elses...

[angelofmusic2112]

You got nothing to lose! I'd submit it also. Did it specify Eastern standard time? I don't recall.

[angelofmusic2112]

Diggity Dang.

:lol Where do you get these crazy words from? :lol

[Jessica]

I try not to curse anymore because of the kids. Most of the time I say, "fudge" or "aw shucks"...occasionally I will let goddammit out, but usually it's "son of a gun"

[Jessica]

I think I remember the contest ending 10 PM central time.

[Jessica]

Are you watching the olympics? It's kind of late for you to still be on! Usually it's just me lurking now on the other threads...

[Jessica]

I just peeked at the rules again. Please tell me that it's still Saturday, the ninth. Here is what it said:

must be received no later than Midnight Central US time, Sunday, August 10, 2008

[angelofmusic2112]

I think you'll be okay. I don't know the exact time you sent the picture (the second time around), but you really cut it close.

Hey! Are you sure you really sent it this time???:newangel

[Jessica]

I better check again!

[Jessica]

I got a confirmation from the Spaceman! Yay...so I made it. What a dits.

[angelofmusic2112]

Yay! I'm happy to know I'll be in good company with the contest!

[angelofmusic2112]

I just learned the USA women took the gold, silver and the bronze in fencing! They sure know how to use those sabres! :viking:viking:viking

USA USA USA :flag

[Jessica]

At least the apes are not too shy to enter such contests.

[angelofmusic2112]

So what'cha working on? Anything?

I have a slew of ape heads that I'll be boxing up for Mastermind tomorrow. He didn't want them painted! Whew! That makes me very happy! I love it!

It'll be great to see his massive gorilla army! I think he told me his gorillas were 40-50 strong! :horror

[angelofmusic2112]

We should've submitted a picture of Taylor kissing Zira into the contest! :duh

[Jessica]

The contest ends tomorrow, Angel. You still have time! If I had a Taylor, I would have tried it...don't think it would look right if Zira is kissing Robert Patrick...

[Jessica]

I'm not physically working on anything. I'm psyching myself into cutting out a new left facing and re-doing the collar of Cornelius's suit. I'll do that tomorrow. I've thought about it enough, so tomorrow I'll fix that and maybe make the pants.

Oh...I would love to see Mastermind's army! He needs to outfit half of the soldiers with Snick's backpack!!!

[Jessica]

I kind of have half my attention to the Olympics. I just want to make sure I don't miss any table tennis, and with the Chinese obsession to the game I'm sure it would get a lot of coverage I hope.

[Jessica]

Angel did you ever glue down your yummilicious Armageddon Glyphs yet from Matt?

[Jessica]

Jess - it just dawned on me. I forgot to send you wagon pix from the the first two movies. Do you still want them?

I haven't forgot the small POTA iron-ons you wanted.

I would still love the wagon pix. I haven't started that project yet. Enaud was going to send me some wood that he will pre-cut for me (he's got access to the right tools)...I've got so much to do that I am never in any rush to get it done, but I do want to commit to finishing at least one project through...and that's your suit.

[angelofmusic2112]

I kind of have half my attention to the Olympics. I just want to make sure I don't miss any table tennis, and with the Chinese obsession to the game I'm sure it would get a lot of coverage I hope.

Well - I'm about to head off to my Olympic size bed and win the gold for a long overdue snooze! :sleep

G-night 2 you ~Angel~

[Jessica]

Sweet Simian Dreams, Angel.

[Jessica]

i'm working on C's jacket. I'm putting in the lining, but it looks like I will have to do the lining like doll clothing...I'm not putting in lining on the sleeves because of the weird placement of the sleeve seams.

[Jessica]

I'm also waiting for my sister to arrive for a party we are going to next door. My mom told her to buy some red bean ice cream, and I can't wait for a scoop or two. :monkey5:banana:monkey5

[angelofmusic2112]

I'm also waiting for my sister to arrive for a party we are going to next door. My mom told her to buy some red bean ice cream, and I can't wait for a scoop or two. :monkey5:banana:monkey5

Red bean ice cream? That's sounds really yucky! :yuck

What's next brussel sprout ice cream? :huh

[Jessica]

Hey...better than cheese and corn ice cream (that's a real flavor they sell over here. I really hate that stuff)...they also have avocado ice cream, and I hate that too.

[Jessica]

Sounds like you were busy with ape projects!! Yay!!

[angelofmusic2112]

Those sure are some nasty flavors! What's wrong with the people eating that stuff? :baicon6: Must be a west coast thing!

[angelofmusic2112]

Sounds like you were busy with ape projects!! Yay!!

I sure was busy. All that talk with you inspired me. No one else may want to see it, but I know that you sure do. Where the heck is everyone?

[Jessica]

I"m still at the party next door. Had to come inside and change my toddler's clothing--he got wet from the garden faucet...

Angel--I LOVE ALL THOSE THINGS YOU POSTED!!

Gotta run. Talk to you later.

[snickertown]

ANG - Luv the pix. You have a ton of figs! The glyph is in the mail.

[Jessica]

Angel...you've got my curiosity piqued! What Julius are you talking about? Are you sculpting one yourself? Let me see!! :monkey5 :monkey5 :monkey5

[snickertown]

I like the way the gorilla mob is swarming around poor old Taylor! thanks for the ripped up pants idea SNICK. I like it more with each passing day. :)

ANG - The ripped pants turned out really well. I'm not sure if I'm going to go with that version of Taylor or Brent in the back of the wagon. I need to post some wagon pix. I have half of it painted.

The Caesar sculpt is sounding awesome. I can't wait.

JESS - Did you ever think about sewing Caesar's leather outfit from Conquest?

[snickertown]

My Mother is a sculpter of doll heads (porcelain) and I once asked her if She could ever do a smaller scale. She was not familiar with resin and whatever else We use in 1/6th scale. She is still going through Chemo for the next 8 days between Monday and Friday, but says thats She is doing fine. I think that once She is out of the woods, I may ask Her again about 1/6th scale sculpts. She does have a very good eye for detail because She made two sculpts of my Sisters just by looking at their baby pictures and they turned out great!

KFOG - Glad to hear your mother is doing better. Your mom is a sculptor? You have to get her to do a ape head.

[angelofmusic2112]

The Caesar sculpt is sounding awesome. I can't wait.

Trust me - this little nugget will be well worth the wait...:sancho

[angelofmusic2112]

ANG - Luv the pix. You have a ton of figs!

They're ALL POTA... (except for the two I made of The Omega Man.)

[Ironman1188]

Oops! forgot the silly picture...:duh

Its been a while but man, did I remember Burke and Virdon differently. :rotfl
Everything looks great guys!!
Angel, did you take any pix of the heads before sending them to Mastermind? I still need to get myself some glyphs for my more favorite apes.
And.... How 'bout some Caesar statue pix!!
Curiosity kills ya know!! :rolleyes:

[Ironman1188]

Sorry Ironman. Curiosity can be a good thing. It can also make things more exciting for some folks! Pretend it's a very limited edition of 5 statues from Sideshow.

Jessica is critiquing Caesar along the way, but she's not showing the Caesar pictures either. :lsvader

hmmmm, simian snobbery?? :monkey5

[snickertown]

She's using all her time making things for others, and none for herself! At least that's how it seems to me. I've been wrong before...

Where does the line start for this little gem???

ANG - I think we would be pushing Jess to the limit. I'll bring it up again after some of her projects get cleared up. BTW, dirtying up the humans and rags is a great way to go.

Second time is going to be the charm for the spaceship. The cardboard template shows the angles the ship needs to be. We are also extending it so we'll have 2 chairs shown. If this goes well the cryo chambers won't be far behind.

[Jessica]

Snick, I can make the leather jacket for Caesar from Conquest. That would be a fun thing to do. Anybody who's sewn these outfits for 1/1 scale knows they are really complex, and when you make them for 1/6 the size adds another notch to the difficulty scale. The Sideshow ape suits (except for the colors) are thankfully movie-accurate, so they make a good base to work off of.

Angel is right...I have been so busy chasing other sewing projects that I have not been able to do anything personal. But that does not mean I am not having fun. Sewing these things are really fun for me, believe it or not. I hope my workmanship shows that. (I really love to sew these outfits, except, no more Mego scale ANSA suits--I AM SO DONE WITH THOSE.)

[Jessica]

Angel, I sewed down the lining of C's jacket. It makes his suit look great. I need to add pockets, add buttons and snaps (where do you get 1/6 scale buttons--do you make them yourself with clay??? or should I use glass seed beads?)

Then I need to work on his pants....and I can send the suit to Angel. Yay me!

[Jessica]

Then while the project is still fresh in my mind, I'm going to bang out the same suit for Snick and me...I am running out of material due to trying to match the checks...but I have a pair of pants that I found at Goodwill that has the same check pattern, so we're good.

[Jessica]

I just bought Zaius and Zira from Andy (Westbatman) last week. If the Cornelius deal falls through, Andy said I can claim Cornelius. I am slowly building up my apes.

[Jessica]

These are aweful pictures... I know. Here's a pic of Zaius wearing Sinatras hat.

This is such a funny picture, Angel. You just need to put on glasses on him, set him under a 1/6 umbrella and photograph him on a director's chair.

Say...do they make those? 1/6 umbrellas?

[Jessica]

ANG - I think we would be pushing Jess to the limit. I'll bring it up again after some of her projects get cleared up. BTW, dirtying up the humans and rags is a great way to go.

Second time is going to be the charm for the spaceship. The cardboard template shows the angles the ship needs to be. We are also extending it so we'll have 2 chairs shown. If this goes well the cryo chambers won't be far behind.

That spaceship is EXCITING! It's going to be fantastic.

Please show us photos of the wagon!! It's great to see works in progress...it makes me want to do more ape stuff!! :monkey5

[Jessica]

Angel, I keep forgetting to ask...but how did you make that trumpet? It's so very cool and feels quite heavy. Is it really made out of metal?

[Jessica]

He needs six total black buttons: two on the front and two per sleeve.

[Jessica]

The two suits you sent me (which I will be returning with C's complete suit maybe in two week's time--don't quote me on that) has two black buttons on the front, but I'm not sure if they match.

[Jessica]

That trumpet is a thing of beauty. I'm glad to say I am a proud owner of one.

[Jessica]

Holy smackers!! I just received that gorilla mask I ordered through the Mego Museum---it's bloody huge! (My toddler better grow up into a very big and tall guy). What a hoot. Can't hide this one...how do I sneak it into the house??? Just the mask alone is about more than a foot high. Was it made for real gorillas? Geez!

[Jessica]

Snick did an awesome job, and he was also the first person to put the gorilla glyphs on the gorilla bandolier. I sent them to some of you guys who asked for them many months ago. Did anyone use them? I'm going to try that tonite. Something really simple!

I have them but have not put them on the bandolier yet. They look great though.

I am thinking that I will have to sneak the costume in the house when I am alone with the kids. Though it should be no surprise to anybody by now how crazy I am about Planet of the Apes.

[Jessica]

I hate when my e-mail goes through a Hasslein Curve...I can't access it now and it's driving me nuts.

[Jessica]

Angel, he looks WoNdErFuL!!!!! WOW!!

That reminds me that I still need to buy that sculpt...

How come his right eye doesn't look as closed as I remember? Did you re-work that when you painted him up??

[Jessica]

Did you like that miniature rope I sent you awhile back? Would it work for a whip for your wagon scene?

[Jessica]

Ironman/Kfog---if you missed the question earlier, I was wondering if they sold 1/6 scale umbrellas that open and close...

[snickertown]

I just mounted my painted gorilla glyphs on the Hunt Leader.

I'm downloading some photos right now. Mine look good, but Snicks are much better. He's the glyph master!

Thx for the Glyph title! The sad truth is my gorilla glyph mold broke when I was making some casts for IM. I'll be making some molds soon and I'll remold it.

[Jessica]

Snick, how did that happen? Not enough mold release put on?

Someday I need to try this, but I need to know what to avoid...

[snickertown]

Snick, how did that happen? Not enough mold release put on?

Someday I need to try this, but I need to know what to avoid...

JESS - With silicone you don't need mold release because nothing sticks to it. This mold wasn't very sturdy to begin with and you need a bunch of glyphs for the Hunt Leader so there is a lot of wear and tear on it. It was age that killed that one.

[kfog41]

Ironman/Kfog---if you missed the question earlier, I was wondering if they sold 1/6 scale umbrellas that open and close...

Hi Jessica. i am unaware of a 1/6th scale Umbrella! I wish I coulda helped you on that one. What is it to be used for?:confused:

[kfog41]

Hey Jess! Try this ebay item out!
Dollhouse Miniature Ladies Umbrella Rain Boots Rainboot Item number: 350086855521

[kfog41]

Hi Angel! I send you a PM in regards to your question. Later, Kent.

Jessica, I also sent you a message!:naughty

[snickertown]

Snick, I can make the leather jacket for Caesar from Conquest. That would be a fun thing to do. Anybody who's sewn these outfits for 1/1 scale knows they are really complex, and when you make them for 1/6 the size adds another notch to the difficulty scale. The Sideshow ape suits (except for the colors) are thankfully movie-accurate, so they make a good base to work off of.

Alright. That could be a cool project. I'm in.

Attached are the wagon pix. I'm still working on it but the pix show you what I've completed.

[snickertown]

Here are the pix.

[Ironman1188]

Jess, I am unaware of any opening 1:6 umbrellas. The Product Enterprises John Steed figure came with a closed umbrella but the handle also produced a sword when removed. Cool, but not POTA.
Glyphs, glyphs, glyphs.....maybe once school starts up I'll find some free time and try my hand at them. I gotta have them.
Snick, that wagon looks ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!! I so wish I had the spare chimp change to get one. I am truly envious.
Angel, your pix are always inspiring. Your gorillas totally rock! and those Mendez busts!!! Need a 1:6 hallway full of those bad boys!!
Michaels, AC Moore, Rag Shop (do they still exist anywhere?) used to all carry tiny 1:6 like buttons and snaps.
Jess, are you creating a "paper" pattern for the Cornelius suit just in case a need for suits pop up again later on?

[angelofmusic2112]

Snick - Your ape wagon is really coming along buddy, and it'll look so much better once all that black color is covered under your drybrushing. How much money to you expect to spend using those paints from Citadel/Gaming Workshop? Just curious. Keep going! Work faster human, faster! :whip

[Jessica]

Snick!!! The wagon freaking rocks!! I LOVE THAT!!! I knew it was a great wagon, but painted, and it's not even done...WOW!!!! Angel, that truly is a masterpiece!!! Bravo, guys!!

[snickertown]

Snick - Your ape wagon is really coming along buddy, and it'll look so much better once all that black color is covered under your drybrushing. How much money to you expect to spend using those paints from Citadel/Gaming Workshop? Just curious. Keep going! Work faster human, faster! :whip

Should the black paint be covered? I'm using the dvd as a guide and it looks like the bars are only partially brown. The frame appears to be black. If you have any color pix saved please email them.

The paints weren't that expensive. I think everything cost around $10-$15.

JESS - Thx! Painting this thing is taking up a large part of my life and I've never been happier!

[Jessica]

Ironman--I have a "pattern" of the Cornelius suit in clear acetate. It helps me to make sure the checks match before I cut out the pieces. I just have to remember to put them away in a safe place. If you can believe it, there are only four pattern pieces to the suit: two for the sleeves, one for the front, one for the back and the collar.

[Ironman1188]

Ironman--I have a "pattern" of the Cornelius suit in clear acetate. It helps me to make sure the checks match before I cut out the pieces. I just have to remember to put them away in a safe place. If you can believe it, there are only four pattern pieces to the suit: two for the sleeves, one for the front, one for the back and the collar.

Only 4??
You truly are a master seamstress!!

[Jessica]

Ironman/Kfog--I thought it would be cool to photograph the main apes in director's chairs with an opened umbrella sipping some margaritas by the poolside...you know...for when they are relaxing between shots. Kfog found a really cool one on Evilbay, but it's $75...don't have that much chimp change to throw around. THAT SUCKS!!

[Jessica]

Only 4??
You truly are a master seamstress!!

Yes, I had to count twice in my head. Each pattern piece is reversible, remember...

[Jessica]

I've looked at Michael's, Ironman. They don't have buttons that tiny...But Angel is going to send me some from another 1/6 shirt that he will not use. I was thinking of having to make some with sculpey clay and baking them in the toaster oven.

[Jessica]

If you ever look at an umbrella, they are not that hard to replicate. You just need to find the right metal rods that will spring back into shape. Someday if I ever find the right materials, I'll surprise you guys.

[stickman]

Angel,

I just logged on and saw that Snick has already received his wagon. What ever happend to mine? Why was it abandoned? What gives?

[Jessica]

Angel,

I just logged on and saw that Snick has already received his wagon. What ever happend to mine? Why was it abandoned? What gives?

Hiya Sticks. How have you been?

--I think he's still working on them. Check out post #9403.

[Jessica]

I have seen tiny buttons on Mego scale suits, and they suck. Whoever uses those buttons on Mego stuff should stop. They need to use 3D paint. But for these 1/6 scale clothing, there are real buttons. Just haven't seen them sold anywhere.

[westbatman]

Would these work?

http://tinyzippers.com/dollbuttons.html

I believe Cotswold carries the 1:6 scale buttons as well.

Andy

[stickman]

Great, thank you for the update.


Jessica, I've been very busy helping my parents out. I ttok a few of my nephews and nieces into NYC yesterday so they could meet up with their cousin. We ended up eating at Carmines on 91st and Broadway. Great food, we had a load of fun. I'm extending my visit back east till October 18th.

[Jessica]

Cool! I think those buttons would work! They just have to be painted. Shank buttons are more appropriate for suits. But how about the regular buttons with the eyes? I'm on a lookout for those...I know Angel's going to send me 10 buttons...but what if I needed more?

[Jessica]

Where is everyone?? I just received word that my photo won! Hurray! I never win anything!! :banana :banana :banana

[angelofmusic2112]

Angel,

I just logged on and saw that Snick has already received his wagon. What ever happend to mine? Why was it abandoned? What gives?

Sticks: Once your wagon is finished you will own something very unique. I know you’ll love this wagon and that you’ll actually see the "TLC" that I put into it for you.

Currently, your resin wagon (and my wooden wagon) are sitting beside each other, in my dining room, still unfinished. I have not been very motivated to work on either of these, as you already know. Snickertown knew I lost my enthusiasm with the wagons due to the long hours I was spending on them and he donated a small fee to me for the countless hours involved in his wagon. It was greatly appreciated, and inspirational to me because I actually made a few bucks on his project when he offered to do that for me.

It certainly was not a requirement of him, but in his fairness, he understood that I had no way of predicting the number of hours vested into this cumbersome project for him.

When your wagon is completed, I would have earned notta, zip, and zilch for all my efforts. This is due to my inability to predict the number of hours involved in this project for you.

In the beginning, when we all first decided to take on this project, I was trying to be really fair with Snick and you. The expensive project supplies required from each of you concerned me so much that I didn't want any financial payment from either of you guys. I thought that keeping the molds was fair enough. I didn’t want to burden either of you further with payments of any kind.

I honestly thought that I'd be able to quickly make more resin ape wagons, and that I’d just sell them for my income instead of charging you guys. Boy was I stupid and wrong! I had absolutely no idea that this project would require so much of my personal time. I should have charged you by the hour and kept the molds! That would have been much wiser of me. If that were the case, I would have made something for all my efforts on your project.

I hope you can understand the reason for the delay. My apologies for the wait Adam, I made a bad business call in agreeing to make this at such a massive loss. You owe me nothing, I just need to dig deep, get motivated and get this out of my home for you.

[angelofmusic2112]

Where is everyone?? I just received word that my photo won! Hurray! I never win anything!! :banana :banana :banana

Congrats to you Jessica! The apes win another award in yet another contest! How did you find out? Did they post the all of the Kiss and Tell pictures of everyone who entered? I want to check them out!

[Jessica]

Hurray for our apes!!

Spaceman sent me an e-mail. I guess they still have to update their website, because there are no photos up yet of all the submissions.

[angelofmusic2112]

I won fourth place Jessica! Spaceman wrote me also!:woo(It seems that I "was edged out by another Planet fo the Apes photo because of better image composition." Gee - I wonder who that could've been?:rolleyes:

See? I've told you before that you take some quality photos! Congrats to you Girl!:banana:banana:banana

[Jessica]

CONGRATS!! The apes placed AGAIN!!!

I'm so glad you entered! Apes rule. What did you win?

[angelofmusic2112]

You and I both will be getting something from the Gentle Giant Exclusives! You get the first pick from the Exclusive Gentle Giants.

Spaceman wanted to reward me for my excellent efforts, he told me he added an extra prize beyond what was originally advertised. I'm lucky guy! Once the second place photo winner (that's Jessica) and the lottery drawing winner have made their selections from the three Gentle Giant Exclusives, Spaceman is going to award me the remaining prize. He'll be back in touch once he knows what that item is.:bunnydanc:elefant:bunnydanc

[stickman]

Sticks: Once your wagon is finished you will own something very unique. I know you’ll love this wagon and that you’ll actually see the "TLC" that I put into it for you.

Currently, your resin wagon (and my wooden wagon) are sitting beside each other, in my dining room, still unfinished. I have not been very motivated to work on either of these, as you already know. Snickertown knew I lost my enthusiasm with the wagons due to the long hours I was spending on them and he donated a small fee to me for the countless hours involved in his wagon. It was greatly appreciated, and inspirational to me because I actually made a few bucks on his project when he offered to do that for me.

It certainly was not a requirement of him, but in his fairness, he understood that I had no way of predicting the number of hours vested into this cumbersome project for him.

When your wagon is completed, I would have earned notta, zip, and zilch for all my efforts. This is due to my inability to predict the number of hours involved in this project for you.

In the beginning, when we all first decided to take on this project, I was trying to be really fair with Snick and you. The expensive project supplies required from each of you concerned me so much that I didn't want any financial payment from either of you guys. I thought that keeping the molds was fair enough. I didn’t want to burden either of you further with payments of any kind.

I honestly thought that I'd be able to quickly make more resin ape wagons, and that I’d just sell them for my income instead of charging you guys. Boy was I stupid and wrong! I had absolutely no idea that this project would require so much of my personal time. I should have charged you by the hour and kept the molds! That would have been much wiser of me. If that were the case, I would have made something for all my efforts on your project.

I hope you can understand the reason for the delay. My apologies for the wait Adam, I made a bad business call in agreeing to make this at such a massive loss. You owe me nothing, I just need to dig deep, get motivated and get this out of my home for you.

Angel, you are right, I am sure to be impressed with what you have created. I have always been blown away by the TLC, and foresight you have devoted to your craft. Although I will not be able to show you my appreciation financially, I promise you that I will breathe a new life into your wonderful creation as soon as I get my dirty ape paws on it. I plan to immortalize your wagon in another POTA stop motion piece and hopefully make you the proud father I already know you to be.

[stickman]

Congrats to Jessica, and Angel for their winnings!!!!!


You go you Crazy Apes!!!

Bravo!! :banana

[kfog41]

Here are the pix.

Man, Am I looking at the real wagon from the movie or what! Super fantastic!:monkey5

[kfog41]

He needs six total black buttons: two on the front and two per sleeve.

Hi Jessica and Angel and anyone else interested. I know where you can find 1/6th scale buttons! Just go to http://www.battlegeartoys.com/ and look under Supply Room on the left. I have been dealing with Augie Romero for many years and he has some really nice 1/6th scale items. Later, Kent.:D