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Jaycepticon
09-07-2017, 07:53 AM
Might as well start this since the three are definitely coming. Looks like we're getting the trio of Heavy Blade, Double Blade, and Whip Staff guy. Hopefully, they can get the OT Royal Guard PO out first.

https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21371185_10154847503177344_2053659145164587248_n.j pg?oh=66a1731585eb47d59751843cf5ddd2d6&oe=5A518FCE

https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21314805_10154847503112344_6140161011127162036_n.j pg?oh=4f0076d86d3e62ca3aa7930ab29baf43&oe=5A14920E

Khev
09-07-2017, 07:55 AM
Awesome looking setup. Just add Snoke for a killer TLJ villain line up.

Matt S
09-07-2017, 08:25 AM
So, are there 3 or 4 variants? If 3, has HT ever done a 3 pack? If 4, two different 2 packs seems like a possibility. For those that have said, 'but these don't look like SW' I disagree. They look like an Emperor Royal Guard had a love child with an Eastern influence design. I think they look cool, but not sure I want to drop $800 or more on 4.

And they better be in the movie for more than 3 secs.

Most of the new trilogy designs are so-so, but I like how these are pretty unique.

Jaycepticon
09-07-2017, 08:27 AM
I know there's a poster with Kylo and 5 of them but going by the Black Series and Figuarts toys, they've only "named" these three variations.

Matt S
09-07-2017, 08:30 AM
I know there's a poster with Kylo and 5 of them but going by the Black Series and Figuarts toys, they've only "named" these three variations.

Ok, thanks......5 damn! Maybe I'll get the 'sad face' guy and call it a day

As for the movie and Kylo, I really want to see the little beyotch get his ass handed to him by Luke.

CrankbaitJon
09-07-2017, 08:32 AM
I think we can differentiate them by helmets as multiple weapons can be included with one figure. In that case, there are 3 helmets so far. In the picture with the 5 guards, it appears there are two pairs with the same helmets.

Runnen
09-07-2017, 08:44 AM
Considering the emphasis on their multiple weapons in the marketing and merchandising so far, I assume we're going to see a badass fight scenes involving those Preatorians. I wouldn't like another Force handwave/smack into wall scene.

Kay-ess-cee
09-07-2017, 08:58 AM
Or another Phasma getting owned and thrown in the trash. These guys better so something cool.

dms54nyc
09-07-2017, 09:01 AM
I bet theyll do nothing

Sardo Numspa
09-07-2017, 09:12 AM
I've never really understood these kinds of Guards.... even as a kid, I never understood the point of the Imperial Guards. They can easily be taken out by anyone with a blaster, and utterly destroyed by anyone with force powers.

Mad Old Lu
09-07-2017, 09:15 AM
Eh, I'm fine with them. They don't bother me any more or less than the original Emperor guards. Curious to see if they indeed see action or if they're just going to be standing around.

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 10:37 AM
Black leather outfit underneath is interesting.

screamingmetal
09-07-2017, 11:04 AM
Interesting.
I personally hate that they all have different helmets, I'd prefer some uniformity for these guys. The one helmet I like the most is the one with the hat.
They all look the way they appear in pictures from TLJ, so I guess HT nailed the likeness.



Also, why is Kylo Ren holding his lightsaber like it's an actual metal sword in that last pic, wouldn't it just melt through the floor if it was being held that way? :lol

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 11:33 AM
OK, so three of my four choices for Farce Friday have now been revealed. I assume Rey will be next.

I have no inclination to buy these red dudes. I only sort of like the square hat guy. But if they are just background like the Red Guards, then its a pass-a-roo!

Of course if the black leather underneath is hinting that these guys are actually the Knights of Ren usurped by Snoke, then that changes things.

Aliaz
09-07-2017, 11:45 AM
Give me the Royal Guards first.

Deathstalker
09-07-2017, 11:51 AM
Give me the Royal Guards first.

I second third and fourth that !!!!

TurdFurgusonsHat
09-07-2017, 11:58 AM
First give me royal guards, scout troopers, cantina scum, jabba's goons, lando, ackbar, etc etc etc

CrankbaitJon
09-07-2017, 11:59 AM
I second third and fourth that !!!!

If they announce these then the ERG within a short period of time then it is trouble for my wallet. 1K USD for 5 red figures :)

SunrayTheWingman
09-07-2017, 12:08 PM
Ok, thanks......5 damn! Maybe I'll get the 'sad face' guy and call it a day

As for the movie and Kylo, I really want to see the little beyotch get his ass handed to him by Luke.
Kylo has to come out on top in this movie. Only way for there to be stakes in Ep9 (considering Kylo is still the villain), he has to beat Rey this time, and possibly even Luke too. I honestly can't wait to see what happens.

As for the Praetorian guards, I like them. I'll probably only get one, but it's an interesting twist on the Royal guards and I like that they're trying new things. The First Order seems heavy on melee weapons this time around.

Bo Shrek
09-07-2017, 12:10 PM
I remember being sad/disappointed seeing “The Emperor’s Royal Guards (red ones) in Attack of the Clones/ROTS (PT). I was first introduced to them (via ROTJ action figures) as "Emperor’s Royal Guards” so naturally In my mind I had always imagined that they were created for the evil Emperor. Seeing them in the PT illustrated that the guards were always there, guards provided to the “Chancellor” in power at that time.

CrankbaitJon
09-07-2017, 12:13 PM
OK, so three of my four choices for Farce Friday have now been revealed. I assume Rey will be next.

I have no inclination to buy these red dudes. I only sort of like the square hat guy. But if they are just background like the Red Guards, then its a pass-a-roo!

Of course if the black leather underneath is hinting that these guys are actually the Knights of Ren usurped by Snoke, then that changes things.

I have a feeling that the Knights of Ren will be the new "Guards" for Eps. 9. Either that or, as per your suggestion, these are the KoR.

SunrayTheWingman
09-07-2017, 12:14 PM
Of course if the black leather underneath is hinting that these guys are actually the Knights of Ren usurped by Snoke, then that changes things.

I never even thought of that, that would be very cool. In the sizzle behind the scenes footage, it showed Daisy practicing fight choreography against multiple foes. I'm thinking, if these are the Knights, the FO invades the Resistance base, finds the map to Luke, and Kylo and these dudes confront them on the island.

Tee-Kay
09-07-2017, 12:35 PM
We might end up with only one variant. Remember we only got one Shoretrooper even though three were revealed.

neb
09-07-2017, 12:45 PM
I'm like 90% sure these guys are not the KoR. There's...spoilery things that suggest they are not. But if they end up being them, cool.

CrankbaitJon
09-07-2017, 12:52 PM
We might end up with only one variant. Remember we only got one Shoretrooper even though three were revealed.

Exactly what I am thinking. However, the difference in this case is their different helmets and weapons vs different paint job and slightly different costumes. I think it will be easier this time for HTs to make all 3 vs all 3 shoretroopers.

sithlord13
09-07-2017, 12:56 PM
Kylo looks nice but pass for me. Zero interest.

MyenShi
09-07-2017, 02:08 PM
The Hot Toys versions have finally sold me on the design.

Whether it's the photography or actual paint, the red is darker in their pictures. Much closer to the Royal Guard.

The other toys, ANOVOS helmet, movie stills, etc. all show a brighter and plainer red that makes them look cheap and toyetic.

The deeper and richer red makes the designs look less ridiculous.

IndyMOS
09-07-2017, 02:52 PM
This design has definitely grown on me the more I've seen it. I ordered all the SHF versions, and now I'm thinking of possibly getting one of these.

I may do one Emperor's Royal Guard and one Praetorian Guard for variety. As long as funds allow it.

Mandible
09-07-2017, 03:58 PM
Worst looking design in Star Wars history.

The Mike
09-07-2017, 05:20 PM
What are the odds they make one with all the weapons variants and we just have to buy a multiples of the same one?

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 05:43 PM
What are the odds they make one with all the weapons variants and we just have to buy a multiples of the same one?

There's three different helmets too. So I'd say zero chance.

Now if you ask why don't they include all the helmets... then may I direct your attention to Endor Luke.

The Mike
09-07-2017, 05:57 PM
I actually didn't notice the helmets :lol Yeah, three on the way.

j97e1
09-07-2017, 05:59 PM
Worst looking design in Star Wars history.

Agree. Lobsters.

Lee in MI
09-07-2017, 06:07 PM
Another Hot Toys passion project :huh

CrankbaitJon
09-07-2017, 06:19 PM
Kylo is not out for another year apparently. Chances of these guys getting released before the film is now a lot higher :)

TaliBane
09-07-2017, 07:00 PM
Worst looking design in Star Wars history.


Agree. Lobsters.

Looks like Kylo has made an alliance with Tim Burton's Red Queen.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/bd/61/67/bd616789c53cf24a4eb528e57e7fdbf1--alice-in-wonderland-costume-wonderland-party.jpg

DarkChocobi
09-07-2017, 07:00 PM
Better wait for the Emperor and 2 red Imperial Royal Guards set :pfft:. I will never touch those lobsters.

karamazov80
09-07-2017, 07:06 PM
I hope they don't push Ripley back too far because of these clearance rack-bound figures. . .but I think we all know that they will.

Kinrohh
09-07-2017, 07:24 PM
At least they hit the mark with Rogue One's designs.

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 07:26 PM
RO had wonderful designs. Just like a Star Wars movie should.

Prior to RO, I think Phantom Menace had the best designs.

LOPIE
09-07-2017, 07:32 PM
These things are ugly.

guyver1
09-07-2017, 07:40 PM
The shine on these could either deteriorate or collect dust over the years:slap

CrankbaitJon
09-07-2017, 07:48 PM
The shine on these could either deteriorate or collect dust over the years:slap

As does the shiny white on a stormtrooper?

TurdFurgusonsHat
09-07-2017, 07:48 PM
I wonder if hot toys will also make figures of their natural predators?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/f6b02196a11a4e9bf92edfa63f00f6b7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/3fbd064d756c5174dd07ecabc6be4b9c.jpg

TaliBane
09-07-2017, 07:57 PM
At least they hit the mark with Rogue One's designs.

Yeah, I think my favorites were the Death Star, Star Destroyers, TIE fighters, X-Wings and Yavin base.

Stormtroopers, the Imperial officers and Vader topped my RO costume design list.

j97e1
09-07-2017, 08:02 PM
Looks like Kylo has made an alliance with Tim Burton's Red Queen.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/bd/61/67/bd616789c53cf24a4eb528e57e7fdbf1--alice-in-wonderland-costume-wonderland-party.jpg

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 08:09 PM
Snoke's Rumba Guards...


http://www.carnivalforyou.com/images/objects/thumbs/30475.jpg


They even have black leather pants.

JCFETT
09-07-2017, 08:15 PM
I've never really understood these kinds of Guards.... even as a kid, I never understood the point of the Imperial Guards. They can easily be taken out by anyone with a blaster, and utterly destroyed by anyone with force powers.

maybe they are force users... how could we know if they've never really battled on screen.

Getter Dragon
09-07-2017, 08:25 PM
We can blame Rian Johnson for these awful designs.


These things are ugly.

guyver1
09-07-2017, 08:25 PM
[QUOTE=Jaycepticon;9435851]Might as well start this since the three are definitely coming. Looks like we're getting the trio of Heavy Blade, Double Blade, and Whip Staff guy. Hopefully, they can get the OT Royal Guard PO out first.

https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21371185_10154847503177344_2053659145164587248_n.j pg?oh=66a1731585eb47d59751843cf5ddd2d6&oe=5A518FCE


I swear this has to be the guard on the left :horror who cares about the scream , they could've easily changed the look

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj83/guyver12/CGal%20Wonder/IMG_1014.gif (http://s270.photobucket.com/user/guyver12/media/CGal%20Wonder/IMG_1014.gif.html)

screamingmetal
09-07-2017, 08:47 PM
It's very clever how they added an "a" to subtly disguise the apartheid-era South Africa Pretorian origin.

What the hell are you talking about? These are named after the ancient Roman Praetorian Guards. :confused:

screamingmetal
09-07-2017, 08:49 PM
Snoke's Rumba Guards...


http://www.carnivalforyou.com/images/objects/thumbs/30475.jpg


They even have black leather pants.

These guys better come with their maracas!

TaliBane
09-07-2017, 09:01 PM
What the hell are you talking about? These are named after the ancient Roman Praetorian Guards. :confused:

Oh and what the $#@% are YOU talking about, huh mister?:lol

It was intended as a joke (Nazis in the OT are replaced by...) - I'm a huge Rian fan. The sarcasm emoji has yet to be installed.

Niltusk
09-07-2017, 09:06 PM
Limited edition Praetorian Guard sunglasses are out now, pick up your pair and support the Empire, or whatever the hell they are in the new movies. :lol

http://vsetkonaparty.sk/3341-thickbox_default/party-okuliare-cervene.jpg

screamingmetal
09-07-2017, 09:06 PM
Oh and what the $#@% are YOU talking about, huh mister?:lol

It was intended as a joke (Nazis in the OT are replaced by...) - I'm a huge Rian fan. The sarcasm emoji has yet to be installed.

Ah. Most use the :p Smiley, but we really do need more smileys, I have no idea why we're so limited.

screamingmetal
09-07-2017, 09:09 PM
Limited edition Praetorian Guard sunglasses are out now, pick up your pair and support the Empire, or whatever the hell they are in the new movies. :lol

http://vsetkonaparty.sk/3341-thickbox_default/party-okuliare-cervene.jpg

I had a pair of those back in the 80's, they suck, you can't see ---t. Maybe that's how Rey will defeat them and kill Snokey.

Niltusk
09-07-2017, 09:13 PM
Yep, I think of these every time I see those weird visors they wear. hadn't seen a pair in a long time, but it does make me wonder where they got the helmet inspiration at.

TaliBane
09-07-2017, 09:15 PM
Not sure if this is a new pic or not...

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/000263250hr.jpg?w=2700


Ah. Most use the :p Smiley, but we really do need more smileys, I have no idea why we're so limited.

:lol


I had a pair of those back in the 80's, they suck, you can't see ---t. Maybe that's how Rey will defeat them and kill Snokey.

The "blast shield" of TLJ.:lecture

A buddy of mine was driving with those glasses on one time and yup, nearly crashed.:horror

TaliBane
09-07-2017, 09:17 PM
Yep, I think of these every time I see those weird visors they wear. hadn't seen a pair in a long time, but it does make me wonder where they got the helmet inspiration at.

The one in the EW pic looks a lot like those red speakers you can get for phones.

screamingmetal
09-07-2017, 09:18 PM
Yep, I think of these every time I see those weird visors they wear. hadn't seen a pair in a long time, but it does make me wonder where they got the helmet inspiration at.

I thought the helmets were inspired by Kendo helmets:
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neb
09-07-2017, 10:10 PM
I thought the helmets were inspired by Kendo helmets:
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That makes sense. Also, I'm pretty convinced the Praetorian Guards are droids ala Death Troopers, or maybe just controlled by Snoke.

TaliBane
09-07-2017, 10:42 PM
That makes sense. Also, I'm pretty convinced the Praetorian Guards are droids ala Death Troopers, or maybe just controlled by Snoke.

Is that in RO or more a visual guide type thing?

Futurion
09-08-2017, 01:33 AM
That makes sense. Also, I'm pretty convinced the Praetorian Guards are droids ala Death Troopers, or maybe just controlled by Snoke.

Where did you read it? Death Troopers wasn't droids, but enhanced humans. Source - RO The Ultimate Visual Guide

jkno
09-08-2017, 02:53 AM
These red guys look weird. And I'm still waiting for the OT Royal Guards first.

MyenShi
09-08-2017, 03:18 AM
That makes sense. Also, I'm pretty convinced the Praetorian Guards are droids ala Death Troopers, or maybe just controlled by Snoke.

Death Troopers were human; candidates drawn from the Stormtrooper Corps that excelled in combat and were taller and more physically fit than average. They were surgically enhanced and cybernetically augmented.

DarkChocobi
09-08-2017, 03:25 AM
Yet beside super cool looking in the R1 movie, their cybernetic enhancement didnt help much for the aiming though :lol.

j97e1
09-08-2017, 04:59 AM
Not sure if this is a new pic or not...

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/000263250hr.jpg?w=2700



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CrankbaitJon
09-08-2017, 05:29 AM
Yet beside super cool looking in the R1 movie, their cybernetic enhancement didnt help much for the aiming though :lol.

They were defeated by the heroes of the movie and they took out most of the rebels so for a trooper they did ok, lol.

Chainedstream
09-08-2017, 06:05 AM
Sad they didn't make the Praetorians look more like the Praetorian guard of the Roman Empire, that would make a nice looking armor and another fun reference to history. Current design remind me too much of lobsters like others have pointed out. Why did they not try out another color scheme now when they had the chance to give us something new? Too much reinvention from OT. Bigger ships, bigger everything and I wouldn't even be surprised if they showed us Death Star III in the sequel bigger than Starkiller base in Episode VII.

Although you could argue that the arm guards looks alot like Manica(Roman arm guards). Change the helmet, weapons, colours and give em a purple/black cloak with the Imperial insignia or something like that

TaliBane
09-08-2017, 06:33 AM
Sad they didn't make the Praetorians look more like the Praetorian guard of the Roman Empire, that would make a nice looking armor and another fun reference to history. Current design remind me too much of lobsters like others have pointed out. Why did they not try out another color scheme now when they had the chance to give us something new? Too much reinvention from OT. Bigger ships, bigger everything and I wouldn't even be surprised if they showed us Death Star III in the sequel bigger than Starkiller base in Episode VII.

Although you could argue that the arm guards looks alot like Manica(Roman arm guards). Change the helmet, weapons, colours and give em a purple/black cloak with the Imperial insignia or something like that

Cool idea.:clap

And re: OT reinvention, maybe soon it'll be a Death Star the size of a galaxy.... the DEATH GALAXY.:lol

"The ability to destroy the universe is insignificant next to the power of the... wait... we can destroy the UNIVERSE?!":horror

NDSam
09-08-2017, 07:28 AM
These red guys look weird. And I'm still waiting for the OT Royal Guards first.

Same here, these guys don't look SW to me but maybe they'll be great in the movie who knows? Give me the Royal Guards please!

anwe
09-08-2017, 08:11 AM
I was going to say Draculas armor (Coppola version) but I guess a lobster also works.

CrankbaitJon
09-08-2017, 08:12 AM
I'm still hoping for the 2 pack with a bonus 3rd helmet and 3rd weapon. Comon HTs.

jkno
09-08-2017, 08:28 AM
Cool idea.:clap

And re: OT reinvention, maybe soon it'll be a Death Star the size of a galaxy.... the DEATH GALAXY.:lol

"The ability to destroy the universe is insignificant next to the power of the... wait... we can destroy the UNIVERSE?!":horror

That wouldn't fit on a film. But they can do a Death Star the size of Jupiter or a Hypergiant Star :p

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Captain Planet
09-08-2017, 08:38 AM
These things look so awful. Like something out of a "C" level sci fi movie from the 80s.

Wor-Gar
09-08-2017, 09:04 AM
They do look like some Italian design out of Flash Gordon.

FlyAndFight
09-08-2017, 09:28 AM
I have a feeling they will be the highlight of the film and people will go nuts trying to order them.

I don't plan on picking up them up but if they end up being cool characters, I could see myself getting just one to represent the film. Just not interested in picking up much outside of the OT, especially after TFA.

hypnobrett
09-08-2017, 11:06 AM
I was going to say Draculas armor (Coppola version) but I guess a lobster also works.

Oh thank God, it's not just me. The leaked images of the Mk. 48 Iron Man also reminds me of that Dracula armor. That design coming back in a big way, apparently.

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ec/ce/79/ecce7926f4f1a06b75048e989aa4ad51--suit-of-armor-vampires.jpg


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screamingmetal
09-08-2017, 11:19 AM
Dracula's armor doesn't have the same look to me, that armor looks like it was inspired by a skinned body with bloody muscles, very cool and creepy. This looks like armor inspired by a Rumba costume.
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Wor-Gar
09-08-2017, 11:37 AM
I have a feeling they will be the highlight of the film and people will go nuts trying to order them.

I don't plan on picking up them up but if they end up being cool characters, I could see myself getting just one to represent the film. Just not interested in picking up much outside of the OT, especially after TFA.

Did you get out of town OK?

SithThundercracker
09-08-2017, 12:30 PM
They do look like some Italian design out of Flash Gordon.

Maybe that's why I like 'em so much! Mi piacciono!

Wor-Gar
09-08-2017, 01:46 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/6OvGksIuKBuLK/giphy.gif

starwarstrooperguy
09-08-2017, 10:54 PM
When I heard the name Elite Praetorian Guard I got excited. I'm a big fan of Roman military history. Praetorians were like the special forces unit but they mainly protected leaders or magistrates. They kept that red color like the royal guards and their armor resembles a little bit of the roman soldiers. Pretty neat in my opinion but I don't know if my wallet can handle more lol


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jkno
09-09-2017, 03:00 AM
Dracula's armor doesn't have the same look to me, that armor looks like it was inspired by a skinned body with bloody muscles, very cool and creepy. This looks like armor inspired by a Rumba costume.
364533

:lol:lol

TaliBane
09-09-2017, 04:04 AM
Dracula's armor doesn't have the same look to me, that armor looks like it was inspired by a skinned body with bloody muscles, very cool and creepy. This looks like armor inspired by a Rumba costume.


I think Keanu Reeves performance in that movie was also, but more creepy than cool.:p

FullMetalHippie
09-09-2017, 01:54 PM
If they weren't different enough from the royal guard design there would be complaints of rehashed design. I personally like the updated take of the Praetorian Guards. Yes they are very red but I assume there's a valid reason for that as well as the design itself. Isn't it meant to be inspired by Samurai aesthetics?

Perhaps seeing them in action on the big screen will silence the critics.

neb
09-09-2017, 02:08 PM
If they weren't different enough from the royal guard design there would be complaints of rehashed design. I personally like the updated take of the Praetorian Guards. Yes they are very red but I assume there's a valid reason for that as well as the design itself. Isn't it meant to be inspired by Samurai aesthetics?

Perhaps seeing them in action on the big screen will silence the critics.


Star Wars fans:

"We've seen this all before, I want something new!"

"These samurai lookin mofos don't look like they belong in Star Wars!"

People will complain no matter what lol. Personally, I think they look awesome and I can't wait to see them in the movie.

Darthsky
09-09-2017, 03:27 PM
Star Wars fans:

"We've seen this all before, I want something new!"

"These samurai lookin mofos don't look like they belong in Star Wars!"

People will complain no matter what lol. Personally, I think they look awesome and I can't wait to see them in the movie.

Exactly!!

The Mike
09-09-2017, 03:54 PM
I like these guys. I don't know if I like them enough for the HT price point but depending on the film will depend on how in I am. I'll pick up a 6" version though.

Mandible
09-09-2017, 04:34 PM
Star Wars fans:

"We've seen this all before, I want something new!"

"These samurai lookin mofos don't look like they belong in Star Wars!"

People will complain no matter what lol. Personally, I think they look awesome and I can't wait to see them in the movie.


Or alternatively - some "fans" are so blinded by their love of Star Wars, that anything that comes out is instantly "cool."

Niltusk
09-09-2017, 05:55 PM
Star Wars fans:

"We've seen this all before, I want something new!"

"These samurai lookin mofos don't look like they belong in Star Wars!"

People will complain no matter what lol. Personally, I think they look awesome and I can't wait to see them in the movie.

These aren't new, they're piss poor derivatives of IG. If they're going for new, go for new, not half ass bastardized versions. Kind of like adding Storm trooper teeth to N.O troopers, just admit you have a **** design and move on.


Or alternatively - some "fans" are so blinded by their love of Star Wars, that anything that comes out is instantly "cool."

Yep, fawning fan boy POS's that think everything is AWESOME DUDE!

CrankbaitJon
09-09-2017, 07:29 PM
I wonder if certain scenes in the behind the scenes video relates to these guys.

Daisy Ridley fighting 3 guys with swords and Adam Driver fighting 2 guys with pole arms

I like these and also the OT royal guards. If HTs release all of them within a short time frame I will be broke! lol.

j97e1
09-10-2017, 12:52 AM
Wish peeps would stop using the word 'Personally', especially when it's followed by 'I'.

neb
09-10-2017, 01:10 AM
Wish peeps would stop using the word 'Personally', especially when it's followed by 'I'.

Wish peeps would stop being so butt-hurt over opposing opinions. You guys are so salty that some people actually like these. :rotfl

SithThundercracker
09-10-2017, 01:24 AM
Two years ago was ducktroopers, now it's rumba costume. :lol
I like Lobster Guards nickname, though.

Niltusk
09-10-2017, 01:41 AM
Star Wars fans:

"We've seen this all before, I want something new!"

"These samurai lookin mofos don't look like they belong in Star Wars!"

People will complain no matter what lol. Personally, I think they look awesome and I can't wait to see them in the movie.


Wish peeps would stop being so butt-hurt over opposing opinions. You guys are so salty that some people actually like these. :rotfl

You mean like you calling someone a troll because they don't agree with your opinion or just your general BS about Star Wars fans in general which I'd already quoted? Sounds like you know a lot about butt hurt.

DarkChocobi
09-10-2017, 04:19 AM
Star Wars fans:

"We've seen this all before, I want something new!"

"These samurai lookin mofos don't look like they belong in Star Wars!"

People will complain no matter what lol. Personally, I think they look awesome and I can't wait to see them in the movie.

:lol..stop it please :lol. Your definition of "awesome" though, plus with you post about Rey in Anakin thread too :rotfl.

CrankbaitJon
09-10-2017, 06:58 AM
Wish peeps would stop being so butt-hurt over opposing opinions. You guys are so salty that some people actually like these. :rotfl

It is what it is nowadays. If I don't like a figure, I won't trash it on the board as I have better things to do in life. There are people that will hate on the new movies and figures no matter what. There isn't a better time to be a SW fan than now with new movies and toys coming out every year. Well, except that you will spend a lot of money, all is good.

Runnen
09-10-2017, 08:43 AM
It is what it is nowadays. If I don't like a figure, I won't trash it on the board as I have better things to do in life. There are people that will hate on the new movies and figures no matter what. There isn't a better time to be a SW fan than now with new movies and toys coming out every year. Well, except that you will spend a lot of money, all is good.

This thread needs more posts like these instead of slinging poop at opinions that differ from yours. The purpose of this thread is first and foremost to inform people that might be interested that this product is coming some time, and secondly to discuss it. Obviously that means some people will like it and others won't, but it's not meant to be used to vent your feelings of "They made things that are new. I don't like new things. Old things were better" over and over ad nauseam.

Respect the people that like this figure if you don't. If you do like it, tolerate the comments from the people that don't. Tell you what, there are even weirdos like me that love the original Royal Guard design but also can appreciate this one for what novelty it brings to the table and like this new design too. Be a bit more tolerant, this is usually a very nice community to find information and advice in, and it's sad that recent threads like this one and the Executioner Trooper have been showing the bad side of some folks on this matter.

TL;DR : Play nice. If you don't like this figure, it's fine. Say so and then don't bash others who do like it.

neb
09-10-2017, 09:08 AM
:lol..stop it please :lol. Your definition of "awesome" though, plus with you post about Rey in Anakin thread too :rotfl.

That's cool. You don't have to agree with my opinions, but at least I'm being positive instead of bashing everything new just because it's the trending hate train. You guys are welcome to hate any design you want, I just don't see the point in crying about it in every thread endlessly. There's literally no reason to go to the thread if you don't have anything positive to say. But I guess you have nothing better to do with your time lol. I bet you folks hate millennial too.

You all feel free to continue trashing every new figure and talking about how amazing the prequels were and how the sequels are Disney feminist garbage or whatever it is. You totally make these forums a fun place to be 👍🏻

Niltusk
09-10-2017, 11:06 AM
That's cool. You don't have to agree with my opinions, but at least I'm being positive instead of bashing everything new just because it's the trending hate train. You guys are welcome to hate any design you want, I just don't see the point in crying about it in every thread endlessly. There's literally no reason to go to the thread if you don't have anything positive to say. But I guess you have nothing better to do with your time lol. I bet you folks hate millennial too.

You all feel free to continue trashing every new figure and talking about how amazing the prequels were and how the sequels are Disney feminist garbage or whatever it is. You totally make these forums a fun place to be ����

No one is crying except you. Do you even read your own garbage? I bolded all your attempts to belittle or insult DarkChocobi. In one thread you gush over someone, because you like their style of not critiquing anything they don't like. You can go Tinder them later. This is a discussion board, its going to have positive views, its going to have negative views, and its going to have "Meh" views. If you can't handle it, its honestly just your problem, because for all your supposed "positive" vibe, you're constantly negative to others peoples opinions, do you not see the irony in that. In just this post alone you make an assumption of how the poster feels about an entire generation of people, make fun of anyones negative thoughts about sequels and then proceed to tell him how much fun he makes this place.

No ones keeping you here, and in case you missed it, theres no thread saying, lets discuss Dark Chocobi. At the very least anyone bashing a movie or toy are sticking to the damn topic unlike you. Heres an idea, for someone who acts so holier than thou, try extending the same courtesy you think every toy should get to the other posters on this forum, you know actual PEOPLE, unlike the intellectual properties and toys you seem to feel need your championing. I've had figures and statues that I think were great and I read through negative opinions non-stop, it doesn't affect my opinion one bit because, believe it or not, I realize on the internet people can like or dislike the same thing.

I'll personally give my opinion on these boards on anything I want, positive or negative, you don't like it? Suck it. Take it to PMs.

neb
09-10-2017, 01:15 PM
No one is crying except you. Do you even read your own garbage? I bolded all your attempts to belittle or insult DarkChocobi. In one thread you gush over someone, because you like their style of not critiquing anything they don't like. You can go Tinder them later. This is a discussion board, its going to have positive views, its going to have negative views, and its going to have "Meh" views. If you can't handle it, its honestly just your problem, because for all your supposed "positive" vibe, you're constantly negative to others peoples opinions, do you not see the irony in that. In just this post alone you make an assumption of how the poster feels about an entire generation of people, make fun of anyones negative thoughts about sequels and then proceed to tell him how much fun he makes this place.

No ones keeping you here, and in case you missed it, theres no thread saying, lets discuss Dark Chocobi. At the very least anyone bashing a movie or toy are sticking to the damn topic unlike you. Heres an idea, for someone who acts so holier than thou, try extending the same courtesy you think every toy should get to the other posters on this forum, you know actual PEOPLE, unlike the intellectual properties and toys you seem to feel need your championing. I've had figures and statues that I think were great and I read through negative opinions non-stop, it doesn't affect my opinion one bit because, believe it or not, I realize on the internet people can like or dislike the same thing.

I'll personally give my opinion on these boards on anything I want, positive or negative, you don't like it? Suck it. Take it to PMs.

Yet you left out all the parts where you previously called me a blind fan boy piece of **** and accusing anyone that likes anything new as being lower than you. All because I thought the designs were cool. In what way is THAT not a personal attack?

Not to mention there's more personal attacks in your comment than mine where I said it's lame that all some people do is complain and I don't see the point of just coming to threads to be negative.

You seem so nice.

ShadowX81
09-10-2017, 01:28 PM
No one is crying except you. Do you even read your own garbage? I bolded all your attempts to belittle or insult DarkChocobi. In one thread you gush over someone, because you like their style of not critiquing anything they don't like. You can go Tinder them later. This is a discussion board, its going to have positive views, its going to have negative views, and its going to have "Meh" views. If you can't handle it, its honestly just your problem, because for all your supposed "positive" vibe, you're constantly negative to others peoples opinions, do you not see the irony in that. In just this post alone you make an assumption of how the poster feels about an entire generation of people, make fun of anyones negative thoughts about sequels and then proceed to tell him how much fun he makes this place.

No ones keeping you here, and in case you missed it, theres no thread saying, lets discuss Dark Chocobi. At the very least anyone bashing a movie or toy are sticking to the damn topic unlike you. Heres an idea, for someone who acts so holier than thou, try extending the same courtesy you think every toy should get to the other posters on this forum, you know actual PEOPLE, unlike the intellectual properties and toys you seem to feel need your championing. I've had figures and statues that I think were great and I read through negative opinions non-stop, it doesn't affect my opinion one bit because, believe it or not, I realize on the internet people can like or dislike the same thing.

I'll personally give my opinion on these boards on anything I want, positive or negative, you don't like it? Suck it. Take it to PMs.
I'd rep this if I could. :goodpost:

neb
09-10-2017, 01:43 PM
I'd rep this if I could. :goodpost:
So it's cool for him to say I'm a fan boy piece of **** for liking the new designs, yet suddenly I'm the bad guy for saying that it's dumb people are just coming here to complain and put down those that like the entire thing the thread is about?




Yep, fawning fan boy POS's that think everything is AWESOME DUDE!

^^^^So that's okay, right? But not calling people out for belittling and insulting those who like the figures. Seriously? You guys don't see what's hypocritical about that?

j97e1
09-10-2017, 01:44 PM
Wish their sleeves were smooth. Or made in same way as Kylo's in VII....
Could be so much easier on my eyes.

neb
09-10-2017, 01:59 PM
Wish their sleeves were smooth. Or made in same way as Kylo's in VII....
Could be so much easier on my eyes.

I wonder if they'll have issues with articulation due to the sleeves. Not sure what material they could do to the elbows without making it obvious.

Niltusk
09-10-2017, 02:00 PM
So it's cool for him to say I'm a fan boy piece of **** for liking the new designs, yet suddenly I'm the bad guy for saying that it's dumb people are just coming here to complain and put down those that like the entire thing the thread is about?



^^^^So that's okay, right? But not calling people out for belittling and insulting those who like the figures. Seriously? You guys don't see what's hypocritical about that?


The fan boy comment was in reference to you generalizing all Star Wars fans, I even quoted the comment, but HONESTLY, that portion wasn't 100% directed just to you, in general I've seen a couple people whos attitude seems to be don't come into a thread if you don't 100% like the product, but you had just insulted another member in a thread by saying he was either a troll or "just didn't understand", so you were probably feeling it 100% was aimed at you.

If you want to keep it on topic, then stay on topic and stop trying to make people post the way you like. Making fun of Star Wars fans in a generalized statement hits at a lot of people at once, playing the martyr doesn't help your cause after you had just accused naseco of being a troll or being to dense to understand a Star Wars movie. Everything is time stamped, cry me a river when you threw the first rock to insult people because they don't agree with you.

You just need to decide if you want every conversation your in to devolve into finger pointing or you want to talk about figures.

Niltusk
09-10-2017, 02:02 PM
I'd rep this if I could. :goodpost:

Thank you, sir! :hi5:

neb
09-10-2017, 02:22 PM
The fan boy comment was in reference to you generalizing all Star Wars fans, I even quoted the comment, but HONESTLY, that portion wasn't 100% directed just to you, in general I've seen a couple people whos attitude seems to be don't come into a thread if you don't 100% like the product, but you had just insulted another member in a thread by saying he was either a troll or "just didn't understand", so you were probably feeling it 100% was aimed at you.

If you want to keep it on topic, then stay on topic and stop trying to make people post the way you like. Making fun of Star Wars fans in a generalized statement hits at a lot of people at once, playing the martyr doesn't help your cause after you had just accused naseco of being a troll or being to dense to understand a Star Wars movie. Everything is time stamped, cry me a river when you threw the first rock to insult people because they don't agree with you.

You just need to decide if you want every conversation your in to devolve into finger pointing or you want to talk about figures.

First of all, I'm a Star Wars fan - so I'm including myself in that generalization. Have you never heard the phrase, "No one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans"? It's honestly true. I'm not saying people are unable to dislike anything, I could care less. I just think it's funny that for the last year or two, the main complaint from many Star Wars fans (including myself) is that TFA was too similar. And now that we are getting some new things introduced, whether it be the Supremacy, the nuns, guards (which I realize are similar to the Royal Guards), etc.. a lot of those same people are complaining that these things do not look like they belong in Star Wars. I'm not saying that's how you or anyone else specifically feel, but that is the reality of many Star Wars fans that are unhappy with x,y,z.

Your comment was certainly directed enough at me for it to be considered a personal attack and to be offensive, which is why I found it hypocritical that you started calling me out suddenly for responding to people who were insulting me just for my opinion.

I said that I liked the design. I was insulted by you and a few other posters soon after saying that I was a blind fan boy POS, that my definition of "awesome" was stupid, that I was blinded by nostalgia, etc.

So apparently it's fine for anyone to **** on other people's opinions, unless they conflict with yours.

In that other thread, not only did you respond to my post wondering if he was trolling with a non-combative response, there were a few others that either wondered the same or made similar comments. Again, you single me out. And if he didn't like the movie, good for him. I was honestly wondering if he was trolling because he referred to Rey as Kylo's twin sister and some other stuff that seemed pretty obvious to me watching the movie once, such as Kylo intentionally not being a huge badass.

Everyone does their fair share of complaining, arguing, etc. Yet you've singled me out and you've done a fair share of trying to personally insult me, which is contradictory to you saying people should just talk about the figures and not the people.
So if you're going to preach that people should act a certain way, you should do that as well.

I'm not going to argue with you about this anymore because it's completely pointless and clearly we have different opinions. But you can't really expect me to just take all of your insults for saying I like something, and not respond. There's no reason that I should just let people insult me personally for an opinion I have on a figure, including people calling me a piece of **** fan boy or that I'm blinded and have a skewed perspective. And yes, I realize the same can be said for people that insult someone for disliking something.

j97e1
09-10-2017, 02:44 PM
This is getting tiresome. Verbal ping-pong. Can we get back to praising or bashing figures, not eachother?

I'll start:

Love the OT.
Totally hate the prequels.
Love EVII.
Like RO.
Looking forward to watching VIII.
Not hating, but still bothered by the Lobster design.

Group hug :grouphug

Niltusk
09-10-2017, 02:47 PM
I'm not going to argue with you about this because it's completely pointless and clearly we have different opinions.

Yes, you will. If anything your responses to me and others, indicate that. As to your other point, I wouldn't want someone to crucify you just for your opinion on collectibles, I just don't like your wide sweeping statements, glad to know you consider yourself part of them. guess that makes it a little easier.

Niltusk
09-10-2017, 02:51 PM
Not hating, but still bothered by the Lobster design.

Group hug :grouphug

I'll stick to the on topic portion of this. :lol

The design to me is cheap, wish they would have went with something totally new that did not immediately evoke the IG.

IndyMOS
09-10-2017, 04:00 PM
So these Praetorian Guards, I wonder which one they're gonna release first. I hope they don't pull a RO Death Trooper, where the Specialist was announced first, and THEN the Deluxe and regular versions a couple months later. If there's gonna be a deluxe version at all, it should be announced at the same time.

D.R.37
09-10-2017, 04:17 PM
They may do a similar release to maximize profit. If so maybe wait till they're all teased/released then choose.

CrankbaitJon
09-13-2017, 07:12 AM
There is a preview page for Praetorian Guard at SSC site now. The picture shows 2 different helmets but that could mean nothing lol.

Jaycepticon
09-13-2017, 08:16 AM
Interesting that only one is labeled "Elite".

CrankbaitJon
09-13-2017, 08:55 AM
I can't figure out which one is actually elite. lol. Between Hasbro, Jakks, SHF and Funko, there is no way to tell as each helmet had been called elite by one or the other.

Wor-Gar
09-13-2017, 09:18 AM
Aren't all 3 of them Elite Praetorian Guards...?

D.R.37
09-13-2017, 09:24 AM
Keep your eyes peeled for the Elite Deluxe 2.0 after these go up. They may pull a Deathtrooper shennanigan

Comatoast
09-13-2017, 10:25 AM
Yeah, why not all three?

Also, you just know the articulation on these will be for ****


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CrankbaitJon
09-13-2017, 11:07 AM
They might do these as Praetorian Guard and deluxe Praetorian guard. After the movie is released they will release the Elite Praetorian guard. Sucks if they actually do this.

lamtsunfung
09-13-2017, 04:27 PM
As Sideshow only previewed two of them, I wonder if Hot Toys is going to do a two-pack of these. I'm always down for another two-pack deal.

CrankbaitJon
09-13-2017, 06:04 PM
As Sideshow only previewed two of them, I wonder if Hot Toys is going to do a two-pack of these. I'm always down for another two-pack deal.

Same. I expected this to be one of the figs to be released before the movie. Hope to see an announcement this or next week!

screamingmetal
09-13-2017, 06:18 PM
I looked on Sideshow's site, I only see two separate Praetorian Guard previews so not a two pack:
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Wor-Gar
09-13-2017, 07:42 PM
They're saving the best for last -- the square hat one.

neb
09-13-2017, 09:53 PM
They're saving the best for last -- the square hat one.

Mushroom Head..

Wor-Gar
09-13-2017, 09:58 PM
He's the one I want. Assuming these guys aren't just drapery in the background like the Imperial Guards were.

Buttmunch
09-13-2017, 10:03 PM
The fact there are so many different weapons for them makes me think they will see some action and use them. Otherwise, why not just give them all the same weapons like the royal guards had?

Wor-Gar
09-13-2017, 10:09 PM
The fact there are so many different weapons for them makes me think they will see some action and use them. Otherwise, why not just give them all the same weapons like the royal guards had?

Oh come now... different weapons means different toys.

Buttmunch
09-13-2017, 10:13 PM
Oh come now... different weapons means different toys.

I'd think different painted armor would be more appealing for toy makers as they could just repaint rather than make new weapons. Sideshow and Hasbro really loved those clone troopers :lol

Plus action sells action figures. Make them fight and kids will be all over them.

Wor-Gar
09-13-2017, 10:17 PM
I'd think different painted armor would be more appealing for toy makers as they could just repaint rather than make new weapons. Sideshow and Hasbro really loved those clone troopers :lol

Well at least for the 6 inch and 3.75 inch figures cheap plastic staffs and swords add very little to the cost. The all-red is quite apparent why that was done.

But I'm sure we'll get different colored something too.

CrankbaitJon
09-14-2017, 05:51 AM
Let me guess, mushroom head that is not shown is Elite Praetorian Guard Captain. Just a guess, lol. Sucks if HTs not doing a two pack.

Wor-Gar
09-14-2017, 08:26 AM
Good guess.

screamingmetal
09-14-2017, 10:54 AM
Mushroom Head..

I'm getting more of a Mushroom head vibe from these two than I am from the square hat dude.

Jaycepticon
09-14-2017, 11:08 AM
Mushroom head is a more tolerable name than Big Toenail Head:lol

Wor-Gar
09-14-2017, 11:36 AM
Is this Mushroomhead? The one with the 'rain visor'...?



https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0346/5761/products/Star_Wars_Elite_Praetorian_Guard_01.jpg?v=15042130 26



https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a3/77/71/a37771aa29b0b09c8c95a46cdce70eaa.jpg

darth dennis
09-14-2017, 11:54 AM
I really don't like the design of any of these. To me, they look like something out of Spy Kids. I'm fine with it as it'll save me several hundred bucks in figure cost...

Wor-Gar
09-14-2017, 12:10 PM
:lol Spy Kids... it does.

CrankbaitJon
09-14-2017, 12:17 PM
I prefer they have full plate armor than having a dress for the bottom half. I guess they are trying to relate to the Royal Guards but still. Would like to see if they have an big fight scene.

Travis Baumann
09-14-2017, 01:48 PM
Such weird weapons. I take it the audio connectors below the blades are some sort of arc generator so they can withstand saber hits. I think one of the other guys has a sword that turns into a bladed whip like Ivy from Soul Caliber.

Wonder if we will have a ninja/kung fu/jedi battle. It will be like a scene from one of the of the Matrix sequels (which is not a compliment really).

Wor-Gar
09-14-2017, 02:20 PM
Wonder if we will have a ninja/kung fu/jedi battle. It will be like a scene from one of the of the Matrix sequels (which is not a compliment really).

If they start flying around the room while the Duel of the Fates ramps up in its hyper ADD style... I'll vomit. Right on the guy on his phone in the row in front of me. Then he'll see what's on him and he'll vomit, on the heavy-set lady in front of him. And she scream -- and vomit -- showering the entire row. Then they'll all vomit on everyone.

Mara
09-14-2017, 05:29 PM
Such weird weapons. I take it the audio connectors below the blades are some sort of arc generator so they can withstand saber hits. I think one of the other guys has a sword that turns into a bladed whip like Ivy from Soul Caliber.


You are correct. None of the toys thus far has shown this, but the topps cards show them with a tiny saber/arc generator in front of their blades.

Mandible
09-17-2017, 04:28 AM
Is this Mushroomhead? The one with the 'rain visor'...?



https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0346/5761/products/Star_Wars_Elite_Praetorian_Guard_01.jpg?v=15042130 26



https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a3/77/71/a37771aa29b0b09c8c95a46cdce70eaa.jpg

This is sh**head - another that looks like crap.

Mandible
09-17-2017, 04:31 AM
Seriously, these designs look like something from a really poor fan-film.

Vader501
09-17-2017, 08:09 AM
I'm definitely going to hold off on these guys until seeing the movie.

Jaycepticon
09-17-2017, 10:37 AM
I'm definitely going to hold off on these guys until seeing the movie.

I feel like this to but I know I'd be kidding myself:lol

Only time a movie has made me not want to buy a figure was IM3 Mandarin.

Metalsaber
09-17-2017, 11:00 AM
Definitely not getting these. They look so bad.

DiFabio
09-17-2017, 11:25 AM
How do you go from this,


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To this,


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To this,


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Looks like some futuristic butt warmer or something.

pixletwin
09-17-2017, 12:27 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the remnant of the empire that survived was out exploring some area of uncharted space where Palpatine was feeling a strong and ancient dark presence... so it could be that the FO is heavily influenced by an ancient civili.... gah... even I lost interest typing this out... :rip

DioramaMaker
09-17-2017, 12:33 PM
These seem heavily influenced by Samurai. I wouldn't buy them, but they look neat. The facelessness of them is an interesting approach. I dunno, somehow they don't bother me. If something like this was in the OT standing in Jabba's palace, no one would bat and eye at it.

Cocoboloboy
09-17-2017, 01:15 PM
I like them. I agree, they show an oriental armor inspiration. They're different from the OT guards but that's not a bad thing. And considering we haven't seen them in the context of the film it's kinda premature to criticize a design that hasn't shown its purpose or influence yet.

But more importantly...I like them. :D

pixletwin
09-17-2017, 01:52 PM
They're growing on me too.

DiFabio
09-17-2017, 02:54 PM
You should go see a doctor if these praetorian growths last for more than 24 hours.

neb
09-17-2017, 03:01 PM
I'm under the impression they're similar to death troopers in that they're androids. I saw a video with (I think) the force link figures, could've been a different figure - but their voices sound a lot like droids. But it would explain why they don't have visors, possibly. I think Krennic controlled the Death Troopers, right? Similar to Lando with Lobot

DiFabio
09-17-2017, 03:08 PM
Are your sure it's not just the reader of the force link figures themselves?


The commtech chips from Episode I made everyone from Qui-Gon to Watto sound like a robot.

Wor-Gar
09-17-2017, 03:31 PM
How do you go from this,


366450



To this,


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To this,


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Looks like some futuristic butt warmer or something.


At least this shows growth/evolution.... unlike the Stormtroopers.

Ghöst
09-17-2017, 03:35 PM
I like these new helmets but they aren't as cool as the other OT ones. Regardless I hope we some Luke vs these guys action in the new movie

pixletwin
09-17-2017, 05:39 PM
You should go see a doctor if these praetorian growths last for more than 24 hours.

It does sound like some kind of exotic eczema.

DiFabio
09-17-2017, 05:43 PM
At least this shows growth/evolution.... unlike the Stormtroopers.

How!? The third and final stage of the guard evolution don't even have a face! It's so abstract.

Say what you will about the duck troopers, but atleast they have eyes, a mouth and the little vent things on the side.


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Mandible
09-17-2017, 07:43 PM
Not phased by the duck-troopers, one way or the other, but they definitely "feel" like a 30 years evolution of the originals.

Think of a 30 year evolution of a car - badge specific. The fundamentals are still apparent, but the evolution feels natural.

These things...:cuckoo:

Luminous
09-17-2017, 07:55 PM
I like them. I agree, they show an oriental armor inspiration. They're different from the OT guards but that's not a bad thing. And considering we haven't seen them in the context of the film it's kinda premature to criticize a design that hasn't shown its purpose or influence yet.

But more importantly...I like them. :D

Agreed. This one of the problems of early toy reveals and releases for a film that is months away. The internet doesn't have a film to talk about so discussions latch on the little info and imagery available to them. My theory is that most of these designs would be far better received if consumers somehow managed to see them for the first time within the context of the film.

That said, even without the context of the film I think these look pretty cool. The movie will determine whether or not they are worthy of a spot in my collection.

xipotec
09-17-2017, 08:50 PM
Praetorian guards=knights of Ren


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morphosis
09-17-2017, 09:14 PM
the thing is, that is just 1 helmet out of 3 guard designs. Its probably not my favorite out of the 3 guard designs, but i think they will look cool all together and if they have a bad a$$ fight scene, then a lot pf people will like them.

TurdFurgusonsHat
09-17-2017, 09:27 PM
People want to pretend this is some "new" design. Couldn't be further from the truth.

This is a blatant marketing attempt to get the relatively disinterested east asia market to spend money on star wars. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170918/a12948ecb4ba68b7a67b79f526e4683c.jpg

DioramaMaker
09-17-2017, 09:45 PM
You know what would be pretty neat? If these guys corner Rey and she struggles to fight them off in a pretty cool sequence, she gets roughed up, and Luke comes in and wipes the floor with them, saving her.

Wor-Gar
09-17-2017, 09:48 PM
I agree with Turd, though I can forgive the Asian influence since Vader himself was Samurai inspired.

But Rose Tico, forget it, total pandering to Asia.

DioramaMaker
09-17-2017, 09:55 PM
I agree with Turd, though I can forgive the Asian influence since Vader himself was Samurai inspired.

But Rose Tico, forget it, total pandering to Asia.

See...the interesting thing is that given the time and circumstance, the pandering argument comes up. I have a hard time believing many of us would have batted an eye at an Asian protagonist, or any other ethnicity if it wasn't the current hot topic in social and news media - especially given that Star Wars is an inclusive universe by design, there's every color, shape, and species under the sun. So while this move is motivated by what we all have discussed, it doesn't feel abnormal necessarily. It's this weird dichotomy in my mind.

Wor-Gar
09-17-2017, 10:15 PM
Well I attribute the casting of Rose for similar reasons as the casting of Lando back in 1980. There were forces at work beyond the necessity of the character. It's very obvious.

DioramaMaker
09-17-2017, 10:26 PM
Fair comparison, and agreed. I think she'll get more screen time than Lando to be honest, given that she has a whole mission with Finn, apparently. But will she get a Hot Toy? Probably haha.

Wor-Gar
09-17-2017, 10:36 PM
She will get a Hot Toys before Lando.

I think also Rogue One has obvious casting decisions based on the similar interest in the market, which may be why Rose gets even more casting shame.

neb
09-17-2017, 10:45 PM
I don't see how the praetorian guards are any more of a marketing attempt to get the asian market to love it than other Star Wars designs lol.
A ton of stuff from Star Wars is based on Samurai, Kendo, etc.

Rian Johnson said he wanted something Samurai-esque with them, so that's no secret. But I'm pretty sure he was thinking he wanted something along the lines of Samurai and McQuarrie's concepts as opposed to saying "Hey, I want to appeal to the asian market, what should I add". =P

Casting-wise with Rose, I can understand why people think that - but it makes me sad that anytime there's not an all-white cast, there's accusations of it being because of a "politically correct agenda" or trying to appeal to a certain race.

It's just the way our world is, man. And if someone is putting a black person or asian person into a leading role, good for them. Even if it's to try to appeal to certain crowds, why is that bad? If you never saw someone like you represented in movies other than a stereotyped miniscule character, I'm pretty sure you'd be bummed. I'm glad movies are becoming more like the world in terms of diversity. I look forward to when it can happen without people pointing fingers and saying "there's an asian person because it's politically correct".

morphosis
09-17-2017, 10:58 PM
I don't see how the praetorian guards are any more of a marketing attempt to get the asian market to love it than other Star Wars designs lol.
A ton of stuff from Star Wars is based on Samurai, Kendo, etc.

Rian Johnson said he wanted something Samurai-esque with them, so that's no secret. But I'm pretty sure he was thinking he wanted something along the lines of Samurai and McQuarrie's concepts as opposed to saying "Hey, I want to appeal to the asian market, what should I add". =P

Casting-wise with Rose, I can understand why people think that - but it makes me sad that anytime there's not an all-white cast, there's accusations of it being because of a "politically correct agenda" or trying to appeal to a certain race.

It's just the way our world is, man. And if someone is putting a black person or asian person into a leading role, good for them. Even if it's to try to appeal to certain crowds, why is that bad? If you never saw someone like you represented in movies other than a stereotyped miniscule character, I'm pretty sure you'd be bummed. I'm glad movies are becoming more like the world in terms of diversity. I look forward to when it can happen without people pointing fingers and saying "there's an asian person because it's politically correct".
:goodpost::clap well said. :)

Wor-Gar
09-17-2017, 11:16 PM
It can be a good thing and still be pandering. They are not mutually exclusive.

Mandible
09-18-2017, 12:43 AM
See...the interesting thing is that given the time and circumstance, the pandering argument comes up. I have a hard time believing many of us would have batted an eye at an Asian protagonist, or any other ethnicity if it wasn't the current hot topic in social and news media - especially given that Star Wars is an inclusive universe by design, there's every color, shape, and species under the sun. So while this move is motivated by what we all have discussed, it doesn't feel abnormal necessarily. It's this weird dichotomy in my mind.

I read one of the first drafts of the script and she wasn't originally in it. So I'm feeling like the "powers that be" jumped on the "please make it sell in China" bandwagon. I'm betting, when we finally see the film, her character will be totally inconsequential and in no way integral to the overall story.

But I could be wrong... :)

CrankbaitJon
09-18-2017, 06:03 AM
Fair comparison, and agreed. I think she'll get more screen time than Lando to be honest, given that she has a whole mission with Finn, apparently. But will she get a Hot Toy? Probably haha.

That is actually interesting. HTs is a Hong Kong company and Rose is Asian. However, based on discussions on some HK forums, hardly anyone is interested in Rose. All of my HK friends aren't interested in Rose but who knows if HTs will make her. The majority of the SW market is in NA after all.

Edit: When I said interested I meant interested in a figure of Rose.

Wor-Gar
09-18-2017, 09:48 AM
I read one of the first drafts of the script and she wasn't originally in it. So I'm feeling like the "powers that be" jumped on the "please make it sell in China" bandwagon. I'm betting, when we finally see the film, her character will be totally inconsequential and in no way integral to the overall story.

But I could be wrong... :)

This is very interesting.

Did the script feel like it was missing a character? Maybe Finn's separate adventure needed another comic relief? Or maybe they need to give Finn another love interest because so Poe has a clear shot at Rey?

Malgus
09-18-2017, 10:15 AM
I agree with Turd, though I can forgive the Asian influence since Vader himself was Samurai inspired.

But Rose Tico, forget it, total pandering to Asia.

Let's see if she gets a figure over more important characters.

D.R.37
09-18-2017, 11:03 AM
If pandering I feel Rose's character would only mainly appeal to westernized asians since she is a very Americanized actress. Baze and Chirrut's characters are A-list Chinese actors and would draw more of the East Asian market (even though RO didnt do as well as expected over there). So I feel she wouldn't entirely be directed at drawing the huge China market. Just my 2 cents.

screamingmetal
09-18-2017, 11:26 AM
"Stick a giant toenail on top of his helmet and we'll call that one done. Okay, let's get on and design the next one..."

How about something more leaf shaped:
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darth dennis
09-18-2017, 11:44 AM
If pandering I feel Rose's character would only mainly appeal to westernized asians since she is a very Americanized actress. Baze and Chirrut's characters are A-list Chinese actors and would draw more of the East Asian market (even though RO didnt do as well as expected over there). So I feel she wouldn't entirely be directed at drawing the huge China market. Just my 2 cents.

Speaking of, where's my damned Baze pre-order!?!?! Chirrut is quite lonely on the shelf.

jal76
09-18-2017, 12:37 PM
I don't see how the praetorian guards are any more of a marketing attempt to get the asian market to love it than other Star Wars designs lol.
A ton of stuff from Star Wars is based on Samurai, Kendo, etc.

Rian Johnson said he wanted something Samurai-esque with them, so that's no secret. But I'm pretty sure he was thinking he wanted something along the lines of Samurai and McQuarrie's concepts as opposed to saying "Hey, I want to appeal to the asian market, what should I add". =P

Casting-wise with Rose, I can understand why people think that - but it makes me sad that anytime there's not an all-white cast, there's accusations of it being because of a "politically correct agenda" or trying to appeal to a certain race.

It's just the way our world is, man. And if someone is putting a black person or asian person into a leading role, good for them. Even if it's to try to appeal to certain crowds, why is that bad? If you never saw someone like you represented in movies other than a stereotyped miniscule character, I'm pretty sure you'd be bummed. I'm glad movies are becoming more like the world in terms of diversity. I look forward to when it can happen without people pointing fingers and saying "there's an asian person because it's politically correct".

Excellent post...the other challenge that Star Wars has with both character design and casting is that it is the only thing where a bunch of nerds have been sitting around for decades dreaming up and falling in love with their own fan fiction about. When new movies are made, in spite of their quality, the same nerds will complain because somehow J J Abrams, Rian Johnson, Lawrence Kasdan, or whoever failed to magically adapt their daydreamed (and probably bad) fan fiction into being the next Star Wars movie. As a result some Star Wars "fans" will never be pleased.

Mandible
09-18-2017, 03:20 PM
This is very interesting.

Did the script feel like it was missing a character? Maybe Finn's separate adventure needed another comic relief? Or maybe they need to give Finn another love interest because so Poe has a clear shot at Rey?

Finn's adventure had "others" that went with him - so it definitely didn't feel like they needed anyone else. Saying that, there was something really interesting in there that (from what I have been able ascertain) didn't come to fruition. So maybe, she could slot in there?

DiFabio
09-18-2017, 04:08 PM
"Kiss my pander" isn't exactly an argument and it certainly isn't a denial. :lol


Say what you will about George Lucas, Gary Kurtz, Irvin Kershner, Richard Marquand, etc. but atleast they never used a format like twitter. These young directors, filmmakers and writers look like unprofessional fools tweeting and stuff. Just gives further credence to the idea that they're just studio tools, glorified cheerleaders.

Mfdoom
09-18-2017, 04:09 PM
And here's your proof Mandible is lying by the way:

https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/909912126415765504

If you don't like Asians being leads in films, too bad. Don't make **** up to try to make it seem like it's some kind of agenda.


I agree with you, I just started getting into SW. One thing I can't understand is if the main character not white it's usually a huge issue or some agenda or comic relief. Even though the universe is suppose to be so vast seems like a lot the fans are narrow minded.

Finn, and now Rose....

DiFabio
09-18-2017, 04:21 PM
You are more than welcome to tweet back to them asking for exact wording if you want


No thanks. :lol


Why are these things called Praetorian Guards anyway. Star Wars has always taken place in "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away". Why are they using roman terminology? Couldn't they just be Snoke's elite royal guards or something.

CrankbaitJon
09-18-2017, 04:24 PM
I think because the name sounds cool and they don't want to re-use "Royal Guards" as the name. I like both but I don't really like the Senate Guards.

neb
09-18-2017, 04:26 PM
No thanks. :lol


Why are these things called Praetorian Guards anyway. Star Wars has always taken place in "a long time ago in a galaxy far far away". Why are they using roman terminology? Couldn't they just be Snoke's elite royal guards or something.

Empire, Republic, Emperor, etc.. (also the Empire having been a Republic before it turned into the Empire lol). It's not the first time. Lots of stuff in Star Wars is inspired by Roman History, mostly in the prequels. Specifically the architecture and obviously the Republic/Empire story. The OT Royal Guards and more-so the Senate Guards helmets are a good example as well.

The Mandalorian helmets are similar to gladiator helmets as well, but definitely not as much as the Senate Guards :)

And come to think of it, the obvious glaring reference I missed is the arena fight in AOTC.

Luminous
09-18-2017, 04:33 PM
Say what you will about George Lucas, Gary Kurtz, Irvin Kershner, Richard Marquand, etc. but atleast they never used a format like twitter. These young directors, filmmakers and writers look like unprofessional fools tweeting and stuff. Just gives further credence to the idea that they're just studio tools, glorified cheerleaders.

It's a different time. Who is to say those guy's wouldn't have used social media tools if they were available to them in their era? Young filmmakers using things like Twitter says nothing other than that social media is prevalent and that they know how to use it.

Mandible
09-18-2017, 04:56 PM
Well this has all gone sideways.

Believe what you will "neb." Clearly you have no clue about NDA's - or how the industry works.

I wasn't here to "stir up" anything other than saying she wasn't in the early draft I read, and therefore (if you had any idea how studios and producers work) my guess is "the powers that be" have had their 20 cents worth. This is a billion dollar business/brand, first and foremost., they're going to try and cross every "T" and dot every "I."

So here's all I'll say - let's see if the first word in the scroll is "Since." If it isn't then, again, I'm happy to be held accountable in December.

DiFabio
09-18-2017, 05:03 PM
Well this has all gone sideways.

Believe what you will "neb." Clearly you have no clue about NDA's - or how the industry works.

I wasn't here to "stir up" anything other than saying she wasn't in the early draft I read, and therefore (if you had any idea how studios and producers work) my guess is "the powers that be" have had their 20 cents worth. This is a billion dollar business/brand, first and foremost., they're going to try and cross every "T" and dot every "I."

So here's all I'll say - let's see if the first word in the scroll is "Since." If it isn't, then again, I'm happy to be held accountable in December.





I wouldn't worry about it. You'll be proven right when the Last Jedi art and making of books come out.


Friendly reminder that this was Finn for a while,



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Darth Snoopy
09-18-2017, 05:04 PM
Play nice, Freaks.

CrankbaitJon
09-18-2017, 06:08 PM
Back to the Praetorian Guards. HTs have announced a TLJ fig every week this month. I really hope its a two pack of these guy this Thursday/Friday. They had 2-3 figs out before the movie for the last two films and they were all helmeted figs. Since Kylo is not out till next year I really think it'll be these guys coming out before the film!

xipotec
09-18-2017, 09:24 PM
I still think Rose is the mother or brother or sister of the Stormtrooper Finn got so upset about when he died...


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Mandible
09-19-2017, 12:07 AM
I still think Rose is the mother or brother or sister of the Stormtrooper Finn got so upset about when he died...


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That's really cool. Hopefully there is some kind of thread like that.

jal76
09-19-2017, 04:31 AM
Rose as the brother of the Stormtrooper sounds like an interesting twist, and wouldn't be entirely unexpected in light of the trend of current movies and TV series.

Hmmm...Rose's sister is already a Resistance Pilot in the movie and there is apparently already a character thread about the two sisters...one a heroic pilot the other (Rose) being the behind the scenes mechanic who does not get the limelight...I doubt they will have room to cram in an additional dead brother thread for a character who is a supporting character and not the main character a la Rey. They can only spend so much time with a supporting character's siblings...

xipotec
09-19-2017, 06:59 AM
Rose as the brother of the Stormtrooper sounds like an interesting twist, and wouldn't be entirely unexpected in light of the trend of current movies and TV series.


You missed the point about Rose being a brother...

Not again please....

Just no more.....


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darth dennis
09-19-2017, 12:42 PM
Hi, I'm looking for the Hot Toys Elite Praetorian Guards thread... :)

IndyMOS
09-19-2017, 12:56 PM
What was THAT? [emoji23]

D.R.37
09-19-2017, 05:35 PM
Wowzers

CrankbaitJon
09-20-2017, 06:15 AM
I'm very interested to see any action involving these guys. Not many movies have serious melee fight scenes of combatants in dresses.

phobicsquirrel
09-20-2017, 01:02 PM
These look like samurai ... interesting in a way but I think the OT one's are cooler. Maybe if these guards had a black visor of some sort like the OT ones I would be more into them. I like the armor though.

neb
09-20-2017, 10:05 PM
These look like samurai ... interesting in a way but I think the OT one's are cooler. Maybe if these guards had a black visor of some sort like the OT ones I would be more into them. I like the armor though.

Yeah for sure, I feel like they'd benefit from a visor. I think it's difficult to pull off intimidating without the ability to feel like you're being stared down lol. I'm really wondering if they're somehow controlled by Snoke due to their (apparent) lack of vision.

CrankbaitJon
09-21-2017, 05:55 AM
I really hope these are not droids.

stickman
09-21-2017, 06:14 AM
Too bad that all the armor these guys wear won't save them from little fuzzy bears whirling tree branches. Armor in SW is the most useless accessory, :lol

screamingmetal
09-21-2017, 09:48 AM
These look like samurai ... interesting in a way but I think the OT one's are cooler. Maybe if these guards had a black visor of some sort like the OT ones I would be more into them. I like the armor though.

I agree. I wish they would've just stuck with the original OT Royal Guards so that we could've seen them in action!
I don't understand why they needed to change everything as much as they did form the OT, the First Order is still somewhat a part of or grown from the Empire. The Falcon really didn't change much, they kept that OT.

screamingmetal
09-21-2017, 03:30 PM
I heard that the Praetorian Guards have "Lightsabers" but couldn't find an image showing this, although the Lego set has one. I finally found an image that confirms that they do have something that looks like a Lightsaber, I cropped this image to highlight it:
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I think these guys will definitely be facing off against someone with an actual lightsaber.

Wor-Gar
09-21-2017, 03:34 PM
I heard that the Praetorian Guards have "Lightsabers" but couldn't find an image showing this, although the Lego set has one. I finally found an image that confirms that they do have something that looks like a Lightsaber, I cropped this image to highlight it:
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I think these guys will definitely be facing off against someone with an actual lightsaber.

Are they the Knights...?

Will we get one or two of them tonight from HT...?

screamingmetal
09-21-2017, 05:28 PM
Are they the Knights...?

Will we get one or two of them tonight from HT...?

The Knights of Ren?
Possible, but I'd hope not, the Knights of Ren looked far cooler in TFA than these guys. I'm hoping the Knights of Ren make a strong appearance sometime in the future, I'd like to see them in action.

CrankbaitJon
09-22-2017, 06:47 AM
No announcements from HTs for the guards this week. Darn.

DarkChocobi
09-27-2017, 02:14 AM
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CrankbaitJon
09-27-2017, 05:32 AM
Hot Toys, if you release a two pack, I prefer the two that are not the toe nail head :)

Wor-Gar
10-05-2017, 09:58 AM
Let's see the display already, not just that crappy thumbnail.

davidgray1974
10-05-2017, 11:56 AM
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The helmet on this guy looks like a bell end.

CrankbaitJon
10-05-2017, 12:36 PM
Yes that is the helmet that I want, and the pointy one. These are more knight like.

neb
10-05-2017, 02:23 PM
The Knights of Ren?
Possible, but I'd hope not, the Knights of Ren looked far cooler in TFA than these guys. I'm hoping the Knights of Ren make a strong appearance sometime in the future, I'd like to see them in action.

I don't think they're the Knights. The new version of the "Everything You Need To Know" book says there are 8 Praetorian Guards. There's only 6 Knights of Ren (7 if you include Kylo), so I'm starting to think they're different now.

Hoody999
10-05-2017, 02:23 PM
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I hereby knight thee "Buzzer Guard"

TaliBane
10-05-2017, 03:20 PM
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I hereby knight thee "Buzzer Guard"

https://st.hzcdn.com/simgs/a8515d2e069935fd_4-1012/modern-heating-and-cooling.jpg

Warms your room too.:lol

CrankbaitJon
10-05-2017, 04:53 PM
hmm, just saw SSC's video, seems like it's Mushroom Head and Toenail head on display. The one that I want the most is not shown...

Wor-Gar
10-05-2017, 08:01 PM
Since Mad Old LU refuses to post this, I will for him:


I got a shot of the Guards with Kylo, but none by themselves. They looked good but the designs don't really excite me. Here's the shot with Kylo:

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Interestingly, they have accidently revealed the third GUARD -- the one with the square on his head is neither the Reg Praetorian Guard nor the Elite Praetorian Guard as previously revealed although he is now listed as the "Elite" guard which was previously the other one.


Here's the original previews:

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CrankbaitJon
10-06-2017, 05:38 AM
I'm still wishing that the two pack or single deluxe will come with an extra weapon and helmet. Just a dream these days.

darth dennis
10-06-2017, 05:43 AM
Honestly, this is one of the least appealing designs I've ever seen for a Star Wars character. Like I said previously, it just reminds me of the thumb guy from Spy Kids for some reason. The all red doesn't work with this either. The Royal Guard in all red was menacing and mysterious, whereas these look like they should have three other friends in different, bright primary colors.

KerotanFrog
10-06-2017, 06:06 AM
Part of what makes the design so appealing to me is that they're faceless. It feels like a supernatural kind of evil in a way. It's more sinister than the royal guards, kind of like a futuristic, demonic samurai. I don't buy Troopers/guards out of principle, but I think they look cooler than senate guards or royal guards.

neb
10-06-2017, 11:04 AM
I wish they were a bit darker, I think that'd help how they look. Obviously lighting and stuff on screen might change how they look compared to the figure -
but overall I think a darker red might make it look less "plasticy". I'm absolute poop at photoshop so I'm sure everyone can do a better job,
but for example

This:
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As opposed to this:

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JAL4U2C
10-06-2017, 11:43 AM
They all were out when it started raining and saw a tray with bowls on it so they put the bowls on their heads. There wasn't enough bowls so the last guy used the tray itself. :D

Comatoast
10-06-2017, 11:52 AM
More pics of the third guard

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171006/fcec339b7e5ff23554f1fd13502a998f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171006/bf66abdc747998189b3dddaf051af9e9.jpg

Comatoast
10-06-2017, 11:52 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171006/749887b53e3521cabb31114c0aa7a3c3.jpg

Mad Old Lu
10-06-2017, 12:06 PM
Since Mad Old LU refuses to post this, I will for him:


:lol

I didn't think they were worth posting here since they weren't the focus of the picture!

KerotanFrog
10-06-2017, 12:13 PM
Lol more pics, the better! Don't be shy Lu.

Without pictures, what would we argue about?

Hoody999
10-06-2017, 12:27 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171006/749887b53e3521cabb31114c0aa7a3c3.jpg

Geez that's RED !! Looks awesome colourwise. As much as I hate this phrase, "they will really pop on the shelf !"

Wonder if that is the same colour which the real Imperial Guards will have ??

Creighton
10-06-2017, 06:47 PM
So you mean I can get these two red guys or hold out for the traditional Royal guards? Such a hard decision. :lol

Wor-Gar
10-06-2017, 07:20 PM
It's a strange rosy red. I'm guessing its the lighting/photo and its richer in hand. I hope.


I like the square-head one with the barracuda jaw. But if these come out crimson-pink, then forget it.

kalzeth
10-06-2017, 07:26 PM
I know there are 8 total according to books. In an ideal world I would get the ones with unique heads and weapons but that’s just too much for space and cash. The look is growing on me though


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Wor-Gar
10-06-2017, 07:27 PM
I know there are 8 total according to books.



One for each of The Knights of Ren.

:D

Comatoast
10-06-2017, 07:32 PM
No that color is pretty spot-on. Here's another, unretouched and it's what I saw..

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171007/5830998e44b1c116740e1f543628ab5f.jpg


It's a strange rosy red. I'm guessing its the lighting/photo and its richer in hand. I hope.


I like the square-head one with the barracuda jaw. But if these come out crimson-pink, then forget it.




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Wor-Gar
10-06-2017, 07:45 PM
No that color is pretty spot-on. Here's another, unretouched and it's what I saw..


Yikes. It's just too rosy. If it was a lipstick it would be called "Hot Pink".

Maybe its supposed to go with Snoke's sheer gold lame robe and golden slippers.



I'm calling them: Hot Pink Praetorian Guards

Puay
10-07-2017, 12:32 AM
Has anyone discussed? How many variations are there to the guards?:)

Hoody999
10-07-2017, 12:58 AM
Has anyone discussed? How many variations are there to the guards?:)

Well as far as I know there's the following Lobster Guards

1). Buzzer Guard
2). Toenail/Barracuda Guard
3). Arrowhead Guard

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Wor-Gar
10-07-2017, 09:00 AM
There's a 4th...

They look very similar yet different -- Sideshow lists a more rounded mask as Praetorian Guard while the Elite Guard is the "Buzzer" look.


Look close, I don't think they are the same despite the angle.

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nexus
10-07-2017, 12:06 PM
I'll wait for the movie before ordering any of these. Right now I'm not sold on the design vs. Royal Guards. The image of Emperor Palpatine on his throne flanked by Royal Guards is hard to beat, but maybe there will be an iconic scene with Snoke and his Praetorian that is absolutely badass. Also they are supposed to be more than just set dressing, which means they might have one or two fight scenes or execute someone. Not sure if I will get three of these, especially if the only difference is the helmet and weapon.

Wor-Gar
10-07-2017, 12:21 PM
Also they are supposed to be more than just set dressing,...

So was Phasma in the first one. These guys could be the new Flametroopers.

Verdict out until I see the film.

IndyMOS
10-07-2017, 12:51 PM
I think there’s a lot of potential for some good action scenes with these Guards, considering who they could fight. Luke, Rey, and even Kylo. Plus the variety of weapons they have.

TaliBane
10-07-2017, 03:33 PM
I do like their weapons more than the Royal Gaurds' pointer/baton things.

ROTJ was the pole-as-weapon-overkill movie.:lol

Popnfresh98
10-07-2017, 03:39 PM
I think there’s a lot of potential for some good action scenes with these Guards, considering who they could fight. Luke, Rey, and even Kylo. Plus the variety of weapons they have.

I think you're spot on.

I feel like we'll get a fight between them vs Rey / Luke / newly turned good guy Kylo in the throne room as Snoke takes off after Kylos betrayal.

screamingmetal
10-07-2017, 05:05 PM
There's a 4th...

They look very similar yet different -- Sideshow lists a more rounded mask as Praetorian Guard while the Elite Guard is the "Buzzer" look.


Look close, I don't think they are the same despite the angle.

I think that fourth one you're referring to is actually the "Arrowhead Guard" Hoody99 mentioned but he instead posted a second image of the "Toenail Guard" instead. I had a really good look at the Arrowhead design today at walmart on a Jakks Big Fig and I like that one quite a bit, it's best to look at it from the side. This is that third one from Figurats that gives you a good idea of what that helmet design looks like:
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screamingmetal
10-07-2017, 05:10 PM
I do like their weapons more than the Royal Gaurds' pointer/baton things.

ROTJ was the pole-as-weapon-overkill movie.:lol

Personally I prefer the Force Pikes, they seem more Sci-Fi than the bladed weapons of the Praetorians.

Wor-Gar
10-07-2017, 05:19 PM
I think that fourth one you're referring to is actually the "Arrowhead Guard" Hoody99 mentioned but he instead posted a second image of the "Toenail Guard" instead. I had a really good look at the Arrowhead design today at walmart on a Jakks Big Fig and I like that one quite a bit, it's best to look at it from the side. This is that third one from Figurats that gives you a good idea of what that helmet design looks like:
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Interesting. Subtle Death Star Gunner helmet.

So that's 4. Four more to go for the entire eight.

TaliBane
10-07-2017, 05:44 PM
Personally I prefer the Force Pikes, they seem more Sci-Fi than the bladed weapons of the Praetorians.

I know what you mean but half of the ROTJ pole weapons had blades - skiff guards, Gammy Guards - so the "vibro blade" (to me that term always sounded like one of those electric meat cutter knives popular in the 1980s:lol) kinda works for SW for me.

I also never understood how the Force could actually play into a spear used by seemingly non-Jedi guards (like are they wielding the Force using them somehow - but I guess they ARE guarding the Emperor?)

Wor-Gar
10-07-2017, 05:46 PM
They're really keeping the Knights of Ren a secret.... wonder if they even play into the movie beyond a small flashback?

D.R.37
10-07-2017, 06:03 PM
I'd really to see them in action...Phasma in action... those were the main bad guys I was expecting to see in TFA. Everyone already knows there will be a main villain/hero showdown.
Hopefully something in this next installment. Praetorian Guards included.
I'm going into this one with low hopes as to not get too let down.

steve74
10-07-2017, 08:22 PM
Every time I see these figures...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofkzvM7Skxg