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Hologram AI
09-06-2017, 10:48 PM
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ThatDarnGamer
09-06-2017, 10:52 PM
What an ugly ass cape, hopefully it's removable. Where's Rey at tho

IndyMOS
09-06-2017, 10:55 PM
There he is! Awesome, I was looking forward to this one. Swappable heads, and removable cape. Nice look at the Praetorian Guards too.

D.R.37
09-06-2017, 10:57 PM
...and new Guard teasers. Snoke Throne in back or is that a cardboard stand up?

amvmm
09-06-2017, 10:59 PM
In Ep7 he looks meaner and cooler.

Greejo
09-06-2017, 10:59 PM
Very excited for this one

EVILFACE
09-06-2017, 10:59 PM
Looks like Star Ace is sculpting for Hot Toys now.

TurdFurgusonsHat
09-06-2017, 11:00 PM
Those guards are a joke, do not look "star wars" at all.

Not sure I like this look for kylo either. He looks like a hipster swashbuckler from medieval times.

chusifer
09-06-2017, 11:01 PM
kneeling with the lightsaber like its a physical sword...interesting

Protozaius
09-06-2017, 11:02 PM
Not sure if I like him wearing the helmet without the hood. He looks better holding it.

davejames
09-06-2017, 11:02 PM
Huh, didn't get the impression the cape was that thick and textury from the TLJ photos we've seen. And the likeness doesn't seem quite there either.

Still though, the figure does look pretty cool here:


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Bo Shrek
09-06-2017, 11:04 PM
Yawn!!

ironwez20
09-06-2017, 11:12 PM
Eh. I like it.

Matt S
09-06-2017, 11:21 PM
Looks pretty decent, but not for me!

Hoody999
09-06-2017, 11:22 PM
Well it's all pretty clear now. HT didn't release this last week cause they wanted to use Force Friday to get rid of all the old TFA Kylo stock.

To me, I still prefer the TFA costume, multi-layer cape, hood, and helmeted head. Seems far more menacing than Severus Snape here.

But still not a bad figure. Easy pass for me though I think.

hypnobrett
09-06-2017, 11:31 PM
I don't feel like that's what a scar from a lightsaber to the face would look like in real life. That's more a scar from running into a tree branch while he was dueling Rey or something.

I do like these new Ep. 8 bases though, much more than the TFA ones.

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Kuat of Kuat
09-06-2017, 11:34 PM
Those guards are a joke, do not look "star wars" at all.

They look like they should be life size chess pieces.

Star Wars Episode VIII: Through The Looking Glass...

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Bluevoice
09-06-2017, 11:37 PM
I think the likeness is spot on. Also I think the design of the guards is great. They went back to the basic samurai design that was the inspiration for the (Darth Vader) costumes.

Smudger9
09-06-2017, 11:37 PM
Love the headsculpt


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Adam1138
09-06-2017, 11:39 PM
Those guards are a joke, do not look "star wars" at all.

Not sure I like this look for kylo either. He looks like a hipster swashbuckler from medieval times.

Yeah I'm not a fan of those guards either. They look like they've stepped out of a Flash Gordon movie. Lazy design. Kylo looks pretty good, although I prefer the V1 costume. I may pick up the head sculpt for a different display option.

neb
09-06-2017, 11:41 PM
YASSS

DarkChocobi
09-06-2017, 11:42 PM
Those red guards are "boiled shrimps" .. and ugly cape btw.

Kuat of Kuat
09-06-2017, 11:45 PM
Yeah I'm not a fan of those guards either. They look like they've stepped out of a Flash Gordon movie.

If so, I suppose Lucasfilm can pat themselves on the back considering that's what Star Wars was initially meant to be.

But figures from the 1980 Flash Gordon - I'd buy those. :)

darth toffeeman
09-06-2017, 11:53 PM
I will look to pick the head sculpt up for my existing Kylo figure.

I have more interest in when DST / Royal Guard / Emperor / Gonk are available.

I still want Baze too.

Adam1138
09-06-2017, 11:57 PM
If so, I suppose Lucasfilm can pat themselves on the back considering that's what Star Wars was initially meant to be.

But figures from the 1980 Flash Gordon - I'd buy those. :)

Why? They are just directly copying a Flash Gordon costume. I know that Lucas was influenced by the adventures of Flash Gordon, but these costumes are just blatant and lazy faximilies of the 80's movie. Yeah give yourselves a pat on the the back! ZZzzzz Very original.

And yes I'm with you on the Flash Gordon figures. Now that would be cool!

neb
09-07-2017, 12:00 AM
There he is! Awesome, I was looking forward to this one. Swappable heads, and removable cape. Nice look at the Praetorian Guards too.

I feel like you and I are the only two people in the thread that like it lol.

I wonder when we'll get a Rey announcement.

Rudimus
09-07-2017, 12:02 AM
Looks more like Game of Thrones than Star Wars to me.

Kuat of Kuat
09-07-2017, 12:09 AM
Why? They are just directly copying a Flash Gordon costume. I know that Lucas was influenced by the adventures of Flash Gordon, but these costumes are just blatant and lazy faximilies of the 80's movie. Yeah give yourselves a pat on the the back! ZZzzzz Very original.

It was ironic.

1930s/1940s Flash Gordon - Lucas couldn't get the rights for a remake - makes Star Wars instead - science fiction gets a new boost and other filmmakers jump on the bandwagon - 1980 Flash Gordon: full circle!


But I'd still love to have figures from the 1980 movie. :)

SilverStar17
09-07-2017, 12:09 AM
Like his TFA look better. Will be sticking with that.

K1NG J0RDAN
09-07-2017, 12:14 AM
The guards are growing on me. It's cool to have some fresh new designs in this universe, I gotta admit. It is what it is. It's canon & we gotta deal. Be happy we are getting all of this in the first place. :yess:

How this sequel trilogy is shaping up is waaaay better than no sequel trilogy at all. It's fun.

alexds95
09-07-2017, 12:16 AM
It is pretty nice knowing that less than a year after the film releases I'll be able to pick this up at resale for less than 200. Makes having every iteration of a character much more feasible

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JermaineD2
09-07-2017, 12:21 AM
Just need that unmasked headsculpt :rotfl

Hoody999
09-07-2017, 12:40 AM
It is pretty nice knowing that less than a year after the film releases I'll be able to pick this up at resale for less than 200. Makes having every iteration of a character much more feasible

Agree totally. Speaking of price, I think this will take a while for Sideshow to put up a pricing. Every day counts to get rid of those TFA Kylo's ! :-)

Hoody999
09-07-2017, 12:46 AM
Looks like there are 3 different lobster guards. They really know how to give toy makers selling options.

They are growing on me a bit. But give me the original Emperor Guards HT !! You've already bought the red paint !!

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Hoody999
09-07-2017, 12:47 AM
Interesting that the lightsaber doesn't go through the floor here.

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VivAdama
09-07-2017, 12:58 AM
Interesting that the lightsaber doesn't go through the floor here.

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That's exactly what i thought when i first saw this. But that pose is so badass!

DarkChocobi
09-07-2017, 01:05 AM
Interesting that the lightsaber doesn't go through the floor here.

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You could clearly see that lobster/shrimp guard on the left is holding a weapon like chinese glaive.. interest concept as expected from Mickey Mouse.

Antihero
09-07-2017, 01:06 AM
The guards are growing on me. It's cool to have some fresh new designs in this universe, I gotta admit. It is what it is. It's canon & we gotta deal. Be happy we are getting all of this in the first place. :yess:

How this sequel trilogy is shaping up is waaaay better than no sequel trilogy at all. It's fun.


I agree. When I was a kid, was really sad after seeing The Return of the Jedi because the fun ended. I'm just happy for these new Star Wars movies, good or "bad." I think I also enjoyed those old Ewok movies.

C-Brock
09-07-2017, 01:08 AM
Just a dorky mistake, methinks

LipSmack
09-07-2017, 01:16 AM
The neck seems a bit thick in some angles, especially where his jaw narrows, very distracting, everthing else is passable, may grab a episode 7 version now that most will dump it :lol

StarWarsFam
09-07-2017, 01:19 AM
I didn't like these or the FO troops in general. But if I think about the Star Wars Legacy comics it seems to have maybe drawn inspiriation from there as well as the films. Also TCW tv show had some interesting designs for Republic officers on Coruscant.

darth toffeeman
09-07-2017, 01:22 AM
Looks more like Game of Thrones than Star Wars to me.

I thought there were echoes of that, especially in how this figure is posed with the guards.
GoT is very popular and topical currently so it is not too suprising that they would take aspects from it.

This does look a very competent figure. I just have very little interest having purchased TFA version and preferring that look to this.

Kuat of Kuat
09-07-2017, 01:26 AM
Just a dorky mistake, methinks

I get that it's interesting to see what the Disney bureaucrats imagine the future chronology of Star Wars looks like, and how they can maximise merchandising profits from variations and changes, which is something that Lucasfilm saw the potential of in the 1980s.

But so far, the design choices for Episodes VII and VII have made it easy to dismiss the Sequel Trilogy entirely in terms of collectability (and also canonically from my own perspective).

With so many Star Wars films on the way it helps to concentrate the mind on figures that fit the OT style (even if the Rogue One troopers are an aberration). After all, I wouldn't want my collection to get out of hand or anything. :lol

Autumn Thunder
09-07-2017, 01:27 AM
Sold!

Bodisamba
09-07-2017, 01:39 AM
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Yes, I´ve allways wanted a MAX LANDIS figure

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Hoody999
09-07-2017, 01:43 AM
I get that it's interesting to see what the Disney bureaucrats imagine the future chronology of Star Wars looks like, and how they can maximise merchandising profits from variations and changes, which is something that Lucasfilm saw the potential of in the 1980s.

But so far, the design choices for Episodes VII and VII have made it easy to dismiss the Sequel Trilogy entirely in terms of collectability (and also canonically from my own perspective).

With so many Star Wars films on the way it helps to concentrate the mind on figures that fit the OT style (even if the Rogue One troopers are an aberration). After all, I wouldn't want my collection to get out of hand or anything. :lol


I agree Kuat. Luckily for me most of this is fun to look at and talk about but thankfully I have no huge desire to get any of them from the new film.

Maybe once I've seen the film this may change, but essentially OT and a couple of Sequel basic characters are fine for me and my wallet :-)

boyslovetoys
09-07-2017, 01:43 AM
the sculp is amazing, first time see adam driver in a cool looking expression, thumbs up hot toys. Just need to do rooting hair and it's done

Futurion
09-07-2017, 01:58 AM
My hype level for the new trilogy is quite low so this is an easy pass, but i can see that for somebody else this a must. Cape is ugly and they reused hands, but sculpt is nice. Overall decent i think.

SithThundercracker
09-07-2017, 01:58 AM
Love this Kylo, can't wait for the Lobster guards.

Captain Clown
09-07-2017, 02:00 AM
Looks okay. Something about the sculpt seems weird, but I can't put my finger on it. His cloak is definitely too thick.

Also, shouldn't his saber be through the floor if he were resting on it like this? :lol

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EDIT: Just saw someone beat me to pointing that out. :lol

Aliaz
09-07-2017, 02:10 AM
Looks pretty good.

Mike86
09-07-2017, 02:36 AM
I think it looks good but it's not an instant pre-order for me. I'd like to get the first version of him to go with my other figures from The Force Awakens and maybe this one down the line. I think overall it's a nice figure. Head sculpt looks good and the outfit is nice. The guards look good to me too. Designs change and not everything is going to be the same as what was in the Original Trilogy.

Johnny Utah
09-07-2017, 03:03 AM
Cool now bring me that Poe figure!

Prime Clone
09-07-2017, 03:36 AM
Looks great, just a shame we didn't get a pre-scar sculpt for TFA.

Malgus
09-07-2017, 03:48 AM
the sculp is amazing, first time see adam driver in a cool looking expression, thumbs up hot toys. Just need to do rooting hair and it's done

Why? So some hairdressers can comb the hair?

Mara
09-07-2017, 04:25 AM
My favorite part of HT reveals now is getting to watch grown(?) men debate what is scientifically accurate from a god damn promotion image of a collectible and wax poetic on what is or isin't cannon.

I also enjoy the grown(?) man who was already furious typing up a rebuttal in a fit of indignation as they read this.

Kuat of Kuat
09-07-2017, 04:40 AM
cannon

canon

:lecture

:mad:

Tinman2000
09-07-2017, 04:46 AM
Cool now bring me that Poe figure!

:duff Would be a definite PO for me!

GMan022
09-07-2017, 04:47 AM
I've never been a fan of his helmet, I thought they would redesign it, seeing as it fell in that pit. Also, I wonder if they will release different versions of the lobsters or just one with multiple heads. Maybe a two-pack?

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Hellion
09-07-2017, 04:48 AM
I hope that cape isn't the same material used on Phasma, talk about garbage.

Drake
09-07-2017, 04:51 AM
My favorite part of HT reveals now is getting to watch grown(?) men debate what is scientifically accurate from a god damn promotion image of a collectible and wax poetic on what is or isin't cannon.

I also enjoy the grown(?) man who was already furious typing up a rebuttal in a fit of indignation as they read this.

But that's nothing compared to those who are clearly so insecure that they take every opportunity to desperately attempt to show how they are so much better than the rest of us... :monkey3

GMan022
09-07-2017, 04:52 AM
Those guards are a joke, do not look "star wars" at all.

Not sure I like this look for kylo either. He looks like a hipster swashbuckler from medieval times.Haha, I agree. I wonder how metal spears and knives will help them in a world of lightsabers and blasters.

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Aliaz
09-07-2017, 04:54 AM
Well lightsaber resistant metal has been used before in SW EU.

Hoody999
09-07-2017, 04:54 AM
Haha, I agree. I wonder how metal spears and knives will help them in a world of lightsabers and blasters.

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Cmon they're Lobster Guards !!! :-)

KR DynobotPrime
09-07-2017, 04:57 AM
Funny they didn't release this last Friday. Alright looking figure, still like TFA version outfit better and will be sticking with that one.

medicomsucks
09-07-2017, 04:59 AM
I wonder how many force awakens kylo ren figures will sell now? I'm thinking very few for $220. I'm not really impressed with this look, or any of the new characters, I only bought Rey to get bb8. Otherwise I'm just looking at old versions of OT characters.

Darkseed
09-07-2017, 05:00 AM
Oddly enough not really interested

zexion_armando
09-07-2017, 05:15 AM
Seems inferior to the TFA design on almost every level.

The Hefty Bag accessory seems super cool though.

robbiethepainter
09-07-2017, 05:23 AM
I'll wait to see the new costume in the context of the film before making any final judgement but as a first reveal, not feeling it at all. It doesn't look minimalistic, just incomplete. Does he use the force to keep the cape on? ;)

Mara
09-07-2017, 05:29 AM
But that's nothing compared to those who are clearly so insecure that they take every opportunity to desperately attempt to show how they are so much better than the rest of us... :monkey3

"The rest of us"

No, it's like 4 people. Everyone else is golden.

CrankbaitJon
09-07-2017, 05:35 AM
Interested in the guards more but this is a great figure if you don't have TFA version.

Wonderpants
09-07-2017, 05:36 AM
I may pick this up if it's more in scale with Rey, or the TLJ Rey is more in scale. TFA Rey looked like a midget next to the others!

Hoody999
09-07-2017, 05:37 AM
"The rest of us"

No, it's like 4 people. Everyone else is golden.

Hope I'm not in the 4 ! :-)

Kuat of Kuat
09-07-2017, 05:43 AM
With great Kylo comes great drama.

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dmon83
09-07-2017, 06:09 AM
Adam Driver haters are always the worst. But whatever - he's an amazing actor and brings it all with this character. Sculpt looks amazing and it'll be great to see how he tackles this in Ep 8. A good addition to the collection.

jedijim3002
09-07-2017, 06:19 AM
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Look Ma! I got a scar just like Grand Pappy!

CupcakeMcGraw
09-07-2017, 06:20 AM
"It doesn't look 'Star Wars' to me"

These people crack me up. We're talking about a galaxy with countless planets, species and cultures, and yet when we see a new style, a new design, a new fabric, they declare that it's "not Star Wars" because it doesn't exactly replicate the sliver of this galaxy we've been shown on screen thus far.

It's like if an alien watched a bunch of cowboy westerns, and then declared the people in the kung fu flick don't look "earth" enough.

Or expecting that we should all still be dressing like it's the 90s (ie, the generational gap between the OT and ST). XD

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Kuat of Kuat
09-07-2017, 06:20 AM
"The rest of us"

No, it's like 4 people. Everyone else is golden.


Hope I'm not in the 4 ! :-)

Who would you rather be a member of?

It's a toughie.

The 4?

Or the golden shower?

:confused:

jedijim3002
09-07-2017, 06:20 AM
I like the head sculpt. I'll pick that one up for my E7 version.

John Nada
09-07-2017, 06:21 AM
Release time frame?

powered convoy
09-07-2017, 06:24 AM
Looks very nice.

I think I like the TFA costume better though. This one does look like he'd be more agile in it though.

Randy

matrix69
09-07-2017, 06:29 AM
Love the head sculpt...but not his new attire.

Cocoboloboy
09-07-2017, 06:30 AM
I think the likeness is spot on. Also I think the design of the guards is great. They went back to the basic samurai design that was the inspiration for the (Darth Vader) costumes.

Same here. I likes what's shown so far.


The guards are growing on me. It's cool to have some fresh new designs in this universe, I gotta admit. It is what it is. It's canon & we gotta deal. Be happy we are getting all of this in the first place. :yess:

How this sequel trilogy is shaping up is waaaay better than no sequel trilogy at all. It's fun.

:rock Yep...yep, yep.


With great Kylo comes great drama.

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:lecture

ApeManRyan
09-07-2017, 06:32 AM
I'm digging it sculpt seems a bit off though.

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evenflow
09-07-2017, 06:53 AM
There is something slightly off about the sculpt to me but i can't figure out what it is. With that said, if i can get the sculpt parted out I will. I prefer the outfit from the prior movie so i will be skipping this.

I am still undecided on the guards. I will have to see how they play out in the movie.

IndyMOS
09-07-2017, 06:57 AM
I feel like you and I are the only two people in the thread that like it lol.

I wonder when we'll get a Rey announcement.

Yeah haha there's a few of us it seems. We're the underdogs, or should I say the Resistance.

Gotta see their new Rey figures indeed. Hopefully the likeness is even better this time around, and the scale as well.

Also, I believe I see all three versions of the Guards teased in these pictures. These two show the three, with the one on the right staying the same in both pics:

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jal76
09-07-2017, 06:59 AM
"It doesn't look 'Star Wars' to me"

These people crack me up. We're talking about a galaxy with countless planets, species and cultures, and yet when we see a new style, a new design, a new fabric, they declare that it's "not Star Wars" because it doesn't exactly replicate the sliver of this galaxy we've been shown on screen thus far.

It's like if an alien watched a bunch of cowboy westerns, and then declared the people in the kung fu flick don't look "earth" enough.

Or expecting that we should all still be dressing like it's the 90s (ie, the generational gap between the OT and ST). XD

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Great point and great post!!!

Creighton
09-07-2017, 07:02 AM
Hate to say it. Im keeping my TFA Kylo.

dms54nyc
09-07-2017, 07:05 AM
Hate to say it. Im keeping my TFA Kylo.

Totally, honestly i miss the hood. The cape is ok i guess. Need to see it in action. May pick up the sculpt. As for those guards. Fat suit removal time for sure!

medicomsucks
09-07-2017, 07:08 AM
There isn't a 'there is something off about the sculpt, I can't quite put my finger on it' post yet? :)

Creighton
09-07-2017, 07:10 AM
Not to bash the Praetorian guards but seriously- Would you rather have 2 of those or 2 or the Emperors Guards?
I look at in terms of what I can spend and priorities. sorry.

Tesla619
09-07-2017, 07:17 AM
Now I wait for big bad Toy store

Kay-ess-cee
09-07-2017, 07:22 AM
kneeling with the lightsaber like its a physical sword...interesting

Wouldn't it just cut right through the floor? I hope he doesn't do this often or the construction crew is gonna get pissed. Then again, they probably follow him around with a full contingency fixing all the stuff he breaks, anyway.

Tee-Kay
09-07-2017, 07:27 AM
Well lightsaber resistant metal has been used before in SW EU.

And FO made the demonstration current technology can anihilate lightsaber advantage as seen in Takodana Finn's duel


Release time frame?

Q2-Q3 2018


"It doesn't look 'Star Wars' to me"

These people crack me up. We're talking about a galaxy with countless planets, species and cultures, and yet when we see a new style, a new design, a new fabric, they declare that it's "not Star Wars" because it doesn't exactly replicate the sliver of this galaxy we've been shown on screen thus far.

It's like if an alien watched a bunch of cowboy westerns, and then declared the people in the kung fu flick don't look "earth" enough.

Or expecting that we should all still be dressing like it's the 90s (ie, the generational gap between the OT and ST). XD

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Well put. Disney/Lucasfilm are in the perfect *******ed if you do and *******ed if you don't situation. Follow too closely the original designs and your lazy, give some freedom to your creative team and you're drifting away from the Star Wars "codes".

CrankbaitJon
09-07-2017, 07:32 AM
Yeah haha there's a few of us it seems. We're the underdogs, or should I say the Resistance.

Gotta see their new Rey figures indeed. Hopefully the likeness is even better this time around, and the scale as well.

Also, I believe I see all three versions of the Guards teased in these pictures. These two show the three, with the one on the right staying the same in both pics:



Now it's up to HTs to actually release all 3 and not do what they did with the RO Shore troopers. I do seriously hope they do a two pack that includes the 3rd helmet and not make us buy 3 single figures.

BoosterGold06
09-07-2017, 07:32 AM
Hate to say it. Im keeping my TFA Kylo.

I'm right there with you. I don't need those red guards either.

Jurgen
09-07-2017, 07:33 AM
There isn't a 'there is something off about the sculpt, I can't quite put my finger on it' post yet? :)

Something seems off with the sculpt. Though Driver looks like he lost weight between 7 and 8? I do prefer his TFA look better.

https://scontent-dft4-3.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21427146_10154847503272344_1870446591763980298_o.j pg?oh=963409ba6ff90d9a381ee2104c7c038e&oe=5A1F6194

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIo0HG9XcAIAyZF.jpg

Kuat of Kuat
09-07-2017, 07:37 AM
the perfect *******ed if you do and *******ed if you don't situation. Follow too closely the original designs and your lazy, give some freedom to your creative team and you're drifting away from the Star Wars "codes".

To me it's about aesthetics. Outfits that look good and would make good figures.

What we see with the lobster guards isn't necessarily something new in the universe, but it's far more in your face Japanese than Vader's samurai inspired helmet.

The guards look Japanese Kendo inspired with the skirt and grill shaped masks. One's holding a pseudo shinai, and the other a naginata. Maybe a design coincidence but there's been an upsurge in samurai (and even Kendo) sixth scale over the past year.

Kay-ess-cee
09-07-2017, 07:38 AM
And FO made the demonstration current technology can anihilate lightsaber advantage as seen in Takodana Finn's duel



Q2-Q3 2018



Well put. Disney/Lucasfilm are in the perfect *******ed if you do and *******ed if you don't situation. Follow too closely the original designs and your lazy, give some freedom to your creative team and you're drifting away from the Star Wars "codes".


I don't get it either. It does look like SW, painfully so. what I find funny are all the people that made fun and shunned GL for his "it's like poetry, it rhymes" mentality with the PT, yet give this crap a compete pass. Matching Kylo/anakin scars, red guards, bald and scared "emperor"s, planet destroying space stations, wanted droids with stolen info, yoda/maz, Jedi masters on secluded planets, etc etc etc etc...talk about rhymes! LFM have become Dr. Suess.

And I'm not even saying that, myself, really, it's just an observation. I'm ambivalent towards this ST. I'll watch it, like I do all the MCU films, but it'll just be a 3/5 to me. Something that's just there. I'm just hopeful that there will be more Rogue Ones and Winter Soldiers in the future SW filmography and less TFAs and Iron Man 3s.

Khev
09-07-2017, 07:43 AM
What I like about Kylo is that he represents a proper telling of the privileged yet tormented young Jedi that Lucas botched with Anakin in the prequels. No need for a Hayden Christensen figure especially with this guy as an alternative.

Looks like they did another bang up job too.

alexds95
09-07-2017, 07:50 AM
One of my biggest questions is if they're gonna get the heights right on everyone this time around

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Mad Old Lu
09-07-2017, 08:06 AM
I agree something's not quite right with the sculpt. But otherwise it's a nice set!

TheBatman
09-07-2017, 08:07 AM
Ugly ass cape...His first costume was much better than this piece of turd.

Josette
09-07-2017, 08:10 AM
I love both costumes, but I've been waiting for this one since the first one came out because I was so disappointed that the TFA one didn't come with an Adam Driver sculpt. This was my most anticipated TLJ release.

Sculpt look awesome to me, as does the rest of the figure. Totally bought. Hopefully Rey is next.

The Clown Prince of Crime
09-07-2017, 08:25 AM
He looks like a young Sheriff Nottingham :lol

https://i.imgur.com/mR9wtJn.png

Kylo should grow some facial hair.

Matt S
09-07-2017, 08:32 AM
I agree something's not quite right with the sculpt. But otherwise it's a nice set!

I thought the same too, at first...but the more I see it, the more it looks pretty accurate. Did Driver lose a bit more weight for the 2nd movie? He's pretty lean anyways, but that was my first thought based on the HT sculpt

Jaycepticon
09-07-2017, 08:32 AM
I'll miss his scarf/hood but I like that he looks like the SW equivalent of how a Knight would look in that universe. And I plan on always keeping his helmet on so I don't care about any complaints about the headsculpt. Looks like to me, to be honest.

riblets
09-07-2017, 08:43 AM
He looks like JP from grandma's boy.

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Fremen
09-07-2017, 08:47 AM
I should have waited for this one.

Khev
09-07-2017, 08:53 AM
He looks like a young Sheriff Nottingham .

No he looks like Space Captain Harlock which is actually pretty awesome.

Kuat of Kuat
09-07-2017, 09:00 AM
No he looks like Space Captain Harlock which is actually pretty awesome.

With Sith Porg?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1KznqzhR4ao/UsUI-lSK7NI/AAAAAAAA2rY/eKc0GBzBg70/s1600/Capitan-Harlock-film-recensione-3.jpg

Biojex
09-07-2017, 09:30 AM
Looks pretty cool. I was hoping for maybe an "open" helmet as an exclusive. Some of the panels shift about when he takes the mask off. Definitely into it though. Hopefully this one sits around for a while as well, and we get some great deals on it.

Niltusk
09-07-2017, 09:31 AM
No he looks like Space Captain Harlock which is actually pretty awesome.

That would be awesome, but I'm not seeing it.

Hoody999
09-07-2017, 09:35 AM
With Sith Porg?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1KznqzhR4ao/UsUI-lSK7NI/AAAAAAAA2rY/eKc0GBzBg70/s1600/Capitan-Harlock-film-recensione-3.jpg


Yes he does look very cool !!

Luminous
09-07-2017, 09:41 AM
No he looks like Space Captain Harlock which is actually pretty awesome.

With that cape I can see that. Awesome indeed.

Mike86
09-07-2017, 09:47 AM
To me his new outfit looks much like the first one only he doesn't have the cloak/hood. I kind of wish this had that rather than just a cape.

GMan022
09-07-2017, 09:48 AM
With HT limiting production since TFA, I doubt this will sit on shelves until Episode 9.

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TurdFurgusonsHat
09-07-2017, 09:55 AM
To me it's about aesthetics. Outfits that look good and would make good figures.

What we see with the lobster guards isn't necessarily something new in the universe, but it's far more in your face Japanese than Vader's samurai inspired helmet.

The guards look Japanese Kendo inspired with the skirt and grill shaped masks. One's holding a pseudo shinai, and the other a naginata. Maybe a design coincidence but there's been an upsurge in samurai (and even Kendo) sixth scale over the past year.

It's another blatant attempt to get East Asia to like Star Wars the way they like Iron Man. Anyway whoever photoshopped the pizza trooper should get to work on these lobster pinchers.

wadeit0ut
09-07-2017, 10:09 AM
What are these comments lol

Star Wars has always been heavily influenced by Kendo and Asian films like Hidden Fortress. This isn't some new cash grab thing lol.

Kuat of Kuat
09-07-2017, 10:14 AM
What are these comments lol

Star Wars has always been heavily influenced by Kendo and Asian films like Hidden Fortress. This isn't some new cash grab thing lol.

Influenced by, of course.

Khev
09-07-2017, 10:15 AM
With Sith Porg?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1KznqzhR4ao/UsUI-lSK7NI/AAAAAAAA2rY/eKc0GBzBg70/s1600/Capitan-Harlock-film-recensione-3.jpg

Yep! :rock

:D

Mike86
09-07-2017, 10:15 AM
What are these comments lol

Star Wars has always been heavily influenced by Kendo and Asian films like Hidden Fortress. This isn't some new cash grab thing lol.
Right? Vader's armor is modeled after samurai armor. I thought every fan would know that by now. Asian influences in Star Wars have been present from the start.

TurdFurgusonsHat
09-07-2017, 10:20 AM
Right? Vader's armor is modeled after samurai armor. I thought every fan would know that by now. Asian influences in Star Wars have been present from the start.

Of course. But lately they have really stepped up their game. First it was the blind stick fighting donnie yen taking down an entire company of laser blaster wielding storm troopers. Now this way too obvious armor design complete with traditional weapons.

Kuat of Kuat
09-07-2017, 10:21 AM
Right? Vader's armor is modeled after samurai armor. I thought every fan would know that by now. Asian influences in Star Wars have been present from the start.

Really only his helmet, and it got watered down for final production. And he never wielded a naginata nor a katana, though a lightsaber could be associated with a shinai.

I don't know if it's a deliberate bid to garner eastern audiences, or whether the designers just thought it was cool to make their lobster men look like Japanese warriors or Kendo practicioners.

It might not be as deliberate as getting Donald Duck onto the faces of the First Order troopers. :p

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 10:23 AM
Why does he have a Phasma cape?

Kuat of Kuat
09-07-2017, 10:23 AM
Of course. But lately they have really stepped up their game. First it was the blind stick fighting donnie yen taking down an entire company of laser blaster wielding storm troopers. Now this way too obvious armor design complete with traditional weapons.

I forgot about him. And his friend.

Budget Stark has often mentioned that in Hong Kong and China HT Star Wars haven't been too popular compared to other franchises.

Luminous
09-07-2017, 10:24 AM
I think they just thought it was a cool design. I think they're cool too. Not in love with them but I appreciate the effort in trying something different.

abake
09-07-2017, 10:24 AM
Really only his helmet, and it got watered down for final production. And he never wielded a naginata nor a katana, though a lightsaber could be associated with a shinai.

I don't know if it's a deliberate bid to garner eastern audiences or whether the designers just thought it was a cool look to make their lobster men look like Japanese warriors or Kendo practicioners.

It might not be as deliberate as getting Donald Duck onto the faces of the First Order troopers. :p

:lol

Kylo looks kinda cool, although I'm not digging the cape. I agree that the first outfit was better.
The guards are still pretty weak IMHO, I also agree that the designers went too far with the samurai thing. Should be cool to see them in action, though.

Luminous
09-07-2017, 10:30 AM
I think this new Kylo Ren outfit gives the character a more mature look. While I still think the first design is cool it definitely always felt like someone who was still figuring out what sort of presence they wanted to have around his troops and the people he wanted to intimidate. His look here now reflects someone of authority and also the appearance of regality. It doesn't just feel like a wardrobe change for a new movie. The character is evolving. I'm digging it.

Sachiel
09-07-2017, 10:48 AM
The quilted tunic is lame. They should have done something like Anakin's ROTS concept art.

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Mike86
09-07-2017, 10:48 AM
Of course. But lately they have really stepped up their game. First it was the blind stick fighting donnie yen taking down an entire company of laser blaster wielding storm troopers. Now this way too obvious armor design complete with traditional weapons.
I mean honestly does it matter? People want changes and to have diverse casts which is what these films are doing. People complained before about Star Wars being only for boys and for having predominantly white casts. Now they're throwing in strong female leads and people of different ethnicities. The armor designs I also feel are would evolve over time so I don't see a problem with how it looks either.

Cap'n Cook
09-07-2017, 10:56 AM
This costume sucks ****.

dmon83
09-07-2017, 11:12 AM
The quilt is a throw back to Vader. Again, feeding into Kylo's obsession with his grandfather.

screamingmetal
09-07-2017, 11:13 AM
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21314474_10154847502677344_8849188841185575509_n.j pg?oh=3455abd5b18a3f6fec305054dcc8da2a&oe=5A5FDF0C


I'm happy with the first version. The cape just seems too much like a Vader thing so I like that the one from TFA has the hooded shawl thing to differentiate the two. I also don't want to see Adam Driver's ugly ass face on my shelf. :lol

And why is Kylo Ren holding his lightsaber like it's an actual metal sword in these pics, wouldn't it just melt through the floor if it was being held that way?

Berry sXe
09-07-2017, 11:18 AM
I didn't want any Star Wars figures as it's a collecting abyss easy to fall into. Now I want RoTJ Luke, Vader, Rey and this. The kneeling down poses have really sold me on the figure.

starwarstrooperguy
09-07-2017, 11:31 AM
I'm 100% getting this Kylo Ren. His articulation looks pretty good. I know many figures from TFA especially troopers struggled. Can't wait for TLJ


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Sachiel
09-07-2017, 11:32 AM
The quilt is a throw back to Vader. Again, feeding into Kylo's obsession with his grandfather.

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Hoody999
09-07-2017, 11:35 AM
Sculpt needs some work. But I must say he's not an easy sculpt.

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Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 11:36 AM
Kylo rockin' the Count Dooku look.


I assume this is the movie where Kylo will loose his hand. He can't be Darth Vader without losing his hand... then again, can Rey be a Skywalker without losing one of hers too!

Maybe it will be a two-fer!

Mad Old Lu
09-07-2017, 12:30 PM
He's up at Sideshow for $235:

https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/star-wars-kylo-ren-hot-toys-903179/?scid=LUIS012&utm_source=bronto&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Image+-+Kylo+Ren&utm_content=Image+-+Kylo+Ren&utm_campaign=TM_HTKyloRen_903179

Racetrack
09-07-2017, 12:32 PM
Kylo in TFA was one of the few great designs of the movie even though it was clearly inspired by Darth Revan.

Kylo in TLJ is one of the worst designs.

I know they have to change things to sell more toys and give the actor more face time but this is just terrible and a real shame.

kgphil01
09-07-2017, 12:33 PM
I'm really not feeling this costume design at all. Maybe once I see it in action in the movie I'll have a much better appreciation for it but right now it seems that the Episode VII Kylo is the definitive version for me.

KR DynobotPrime
09-07-2017, 12:36 PM
I'm really not feeling this costume design at all. Maybe once I see it in action in the movie I'll have a much better appreciation for it but right now it seems that the Episode VII Kylo is the definitive version for me.

I was about to say the same exact thing.

Rijie78
09-07-2017, 12:38 PM
kneeling with the lightsaber like its a physical sword...interesting

Yeah, shouldn't it be peacefully disappearing into the floor like bad comedy? Mind you, we saw in the previous film that he likes to break the place he lives in, so going about sticking holes in the floor is probably par for the course.

Also, those red guys, ahahahaha. I'm amazed the art director signed that one off.. not the finest piece of character design in the SW films. But, it carries on the "looking a bit like something Ashley Wood did" thing from K2SO/Popbot. There's a bit of the Tomorrow Kings armour in those arm designs.

Mainly tho, they put me in mind a bit of the Masters Of Death from Big Trouble In Little China
(Edit: should add I know they're not called that, but can never remember their name and they're ripped from the MoD in Shogun Assassin, so.)

Bluevoice
09-07-2017, 12:38 PM
Yes, he's up for preorder for $235. I think the price point is good. Direct link to pre-order:

Star Wars: The Last Jedi Kylo Ren (https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/star-wars-kylo-ren-hot-toys-903179/?me=3gn6tr8m)

I just did!

neb
09-07-2017, 12:40 PM
When I think "Kylo Ren" I think TFA costume. It's one of my favorite costume designs in the series, but regardless - I agree that will be my definitive "Kylo Ren".

However, I see the Ep8 and (likely) Ep9 designs are going to be more Ben Solo, less Kylo Ren. If that makes sense?

I like this figure, just not as much as the epVII one. I'll probably decide on picking it up or not after the movie, but I definitely want to grab the head sculpt and that stand - and posssiblyyyy the helmet depending on if it's a better sculpt than the TFA one. Though, I think the TLJ helmet has a longer back design-wise than TFA.

Kylo is one of my favorite characters though, so I'll probably end up buying this at some point... lol This figure actually makes me think of Star Wars Captain Harlock.

Popnfresh98
09-07-2017, 12:44 PM
I'm really not feeling this costume design at all. Maybe once I see it in action in the movie I'll have a much better appreciation for it but right now it seems that the Episode VII Kylo is the definitive version for me.

I concur, I have no idea what the art designers are doing here. And he looks like a young angstier version of Snape to boot. Or as someone said he looks like he stepped out of Game of thrones

Actually I think all the design, ships, characters etc has been weak that we've seen of the sequel trilogy so far. The only designs I liked so far were kylos masked look in tfa which has strong shades of revan, and I believe was a discarded concept for Vader, making it an older design anyway? And I like Rey's TFA look as well which had strong shades of Bastilla from Kotor as well.

These new imperial guards... They look like dildo headed lobsters... I have no idea what they're doing here..

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 12:45 PM
I'll preorder when its up at BBTS.

neb
09-07-2017, 12:49 PM
I concur, I have no idea what the art designers are doing here. And he looks like a young angstier version of Snape to boot. Or as someone said he looks like he stepped out of Game of thrones

Actually I think all the design, ships, characters etc has been weak that we've seen of the sequel trilogy so far. The only designs I liked so far were kylos masked look in tfa which has strong shades of revan, and I believe was a discarded concept for Vader, making it an older design anyway? And I like Rey's TFA look as well which had strong shades of Bastilla from Kotor as well.

These new imperial guards... They look like dildo headed lobsters... I have no idea what they're doing here..

Kylo's mask was not a concept for Vader - that's a rumor. It was a completely new concept from the artists.

I like the Praetorian Guards myself. I'm under the impression they're either droids or controlled by Snoke, similar to the Death Troopers in Rogue One.

Racetrack
09-07-2017, 12:51 PM
I concur, I have no idea what the art designers are doing here. And he looks like a young angstier version of Snape to boot. Or as someone said he looks like he stepped out of Game of thrones

Actually I think all the design, ships, characters etc has been weak that we've seen of the sequel trilogy so far. The only designs I liked so far were kylos masked look in tfa which has strong shades of revan, and I believe was a discarded concept for Vader, making it an older design anyway? And I like Rey's TFA look as well which had strong shades of Bastilla from Kotor as well.

These new imperial guards... They look like dildo headed lobsters... I have no idea what they're doing here..

Couldn't agree more. Don't forget those terrible Resistence outfits. The only good designs in the ST were

Kylo Ren (TFA)
Han looked good
BB8
Asty
Starkiller Base (kinda)
Luggabeast

Dixmois
09-07-2017, 12:55 PM
Waiting for bbts to list it. Definitely love it, but I'm thinking about getting the force awakens version during spook if they do a good deal

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Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 12:59 PM
He's up at BBTS.... but with an NRD!!!!!!

Dammit!

Popnfresh98
09-07-2017, 01:02 PM
NRD at BBTS! No codes at sideshow! Ze world... She is a-changing!

neb
09-07-2017, 01:02 PM
"$23.50 Non-Refundable
Down Payment Required "

FUUUUUUU

If they start adding this, there's really no reason to order from them.

The entire perk of ordering HTs from BBTS is that you could cancel without losing money.

Now it's basically the same as Sideshow, except Sideshow you gain points and whatnot...

Whoever made this decision at BBTS is a dumb dumb.

CupcakeMcGraw
09-07-2017, 01:05 PM
Weird, it's almost like there's some correlation between a bunch of finicky collectors repeatedly canceling pre-orders right before shipping , and the introduction of an NRD...

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Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 01:07 PM
Weird, it's almost like there's some correlation between a bunch of finicky collectors repeatedly canceling pre-orders right before shipping , and the introduction of an NRD...

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:rotfl

BBTS doesn't want a repeat of TFA, that's for certain.

Mike86
09-07-2017, 01:08 PM
Well that sucks about an NRD at BBTS now too. The odd thing to me is that they seem to sell through their stock faster than Sideshow presumably because they order less. That was a major reason to order from them but if they're going to start that I don't know if I'll keep using them as often. They still have the perk of lower shipping but Sideshow had rewards points so it balances out somewhat.


:rotfl

BBTS doesn't want a repeat of TFA, that's for certain.
I think all the retailers got stuck on that deal but I get the feeling it's more a result of Hot Toys overproducing than anything.

hypnobrett
09-07-2017, 01:10 PM
Weird about the NRD. I don't plan on picking this up, but I'll eat my shoe if this is actually hard to get when it comes out. I wouldn't worry.


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TurdFurgusonsHat
09-07-2017, 01:11 PM
Order only what you want, pretty simple. I dislike the change though.

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 01:11 PM
Yep. They will lose business that's for sure.

But maybe they don't want to get burned on stock from a movie that isn't even out yet. If the movie sucks, everyone will cancel.


I would never pay an NRD unless its absolutely something that I know I will want even a year from now.

Biojex
09-07-2017, 01:11 PM
Well...At least BBTS only has $4 shipping as opposed to...whatever SS decides to charge at the time...usually at least $20...

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 01:15 PM
Well...At least BBTS only has $4 shipping as opposed to...whatever SS decides to charge at the time...usually at least $20...

But you also get points at Sideshow. So that $20 becomes $8 to ship on this figure. So you're really saving $4.

But you have to wait an extra 2 weeks to get the figure from the time Sideshow could have it to you.

And time = money.

What is the value of having first pics up here? Or having your figure in hand two weeks early? Or being able to get replacement parts while Sideshow still has them?

Is all that worth $4?

Hoody999
09-07-2017, 01:15 PM
"$23.50 Non-Refundable
Down Payment Required "

FUUUUUUU

If they start adding this, there's really no reason to order from them.

The entire perk of ordering HTs from BBTS is that you could cancel without losing money.

Now it's basically the same as Sideshow, except Sideshow you gain points and whatnot...

Whoever made this decision at BBTS is a dumb dumb.

Seriously????......can you imagine the amount of people ordering, then cancelling after they get over their little post movie high. I totally agree there should be a NRD. It's more about making you decide if you really want it, than the money.

Plus their shipping price is way better than SS too. Don't forget that. SS vouchers etc often don't even cover the full amount at SS.

Then you have great shops like Timewalker Toys where service is the best I have ever seen. Things like that also need to be considered.

neb
09-07-2017, 01:16 PM
Well that sucks about an NRD at BBTS now too. The odd thing to me is that they seem to sell through their stock faster than Sideshow presumably because they order less. That was a major reason to order from them but if they're going to start that I don't know if I'll keep using them as often. They still have the perk of lower shipping but Sideshow had rewards points so it balances out somewhat.


I think all the retailers got stuck on that deal but I get the feeling it's more a result of Hot Toys overproducing than anything.

It depends where you live too. If you're from CA, like me - you get shafted by SS sales tax and end up paying 40 over retail for every figure.

Tee-Kay
09-07-2017, 01:20 PM
Those NRD are simply a defense mechanism from retailers. Pretty much any local source in my parts are using it. unsold stocks can kill a business. Ever noticed that pattern where a newly created (e)store will have particularly competitive offers while getting pricier as time goes by. It often means those businesses are trying to compensate unsold stock by maximising profit on new stuff. In the end, too many cancellations is one (but not the only) factor hurting the collecting community.

TurdFurgusonsHat
09-07-2017, 01:20 PM
But you also get points at Sideshow. So that $20 becomes $8 to ship on this figure. So you're really saving $4.

But you have to wait an extra 2 weeks to get the figure from the time Sideshow could have it to you.

And time = money.

What is the value of having first pics up here? Or having your figure in hand two weeks early? Or being able to get replacement parts while Sideshow still has them?

Is all that worth $4?

This is true except with the caveat that you can pile of loot several figures and ship them all for $4. I think we talked on this earlier but I have K2, R2, Luke, and 2 gunners coming likely within 2 weeks of each other. Would have been $120 at sideshow to ship, and not double boxed.

neb
09-07-2017, 01:23 PM
This is true except with the caveat that you can pile of loot several figures and ship them all for $4. I think we talked on this earlier but I have K2, R2, Luke, and 2 gunners coming likely within 2 weeks of each other. Would have been $120 at sideshow to ship, and not double boxed.

When ordering from BBTS, do you get a shipper with the figure, or nah?

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 01:23 PM
This is true except with the caveat that you can pile of loot several figures and ship them all for $4. I think we talked on this earlier but I have K2, R2, Luke, and 2 gunners coming likely within 2 weeks of each other. Would have been $120 at sideshow to ship, and not double boxed.

Yes, that is an added bonus. I've never ordered anything that came the same time as something else so I often forget about that.

TurdFurgusonsHat
09-07-2017, 01:25 PM
When ordering from BBTS, do you get a shipper with the figure, or nah?

Yep shipper is included

Malgus
09-07-2017, 01:27 PM
Funny how the exact people who cause NRD are the ones complaining about it. Your tears are great to see. Maybe you will grow up and only order what you actually want.

Mike86
09-07-2017, 01:29 PM
When ordering from BBTS, do you get a shipper with the figure, or nah?
All the figures I've gotten from them have the shipper and are also double boxed. I somewhat get the reasoning behind NRD's but I also feel like it should be a case by case thing personally. If people order and cancel left and right that's one thing and there could just be a site rule about it (Alter Ego Comics does that). Also I think that the fact it takes as long as it does for figures to arrive contributes to cancellations. It'd be really nice if we could get a smaller window for when figures will arrive. Mostly everything is a year or more off and sometimes things come up. I rarely cancel but I still don't like to be locked into a deposit if there comes a reason that I need to.

Biojex
09-07-2017, 01:34 PM
But you also get points at Sideshow. So that $20 becomes $8 to ship on this figure. So you're really saving $4.

But you have to wait an extra 2 weeks to get the figure from the time Sideshow could have it to you.

And time = money.

What is the value of having first pics up here? Or having your figure in hand two weeks early? Or being able to get replacement parts while Sideshow still has them?

Is all that worth $4?

I also get hit with the CA sales tax (but that's my fault) So yes it's worth it :lol

The $20 and $25 coupons were really nice for someone like me. It's too bad they've stopped them for now. I love ordering from Sideshow for the rewards points and the fact that when shipped I get it the next day because I'm so close to them.

The reason I tend to stick with Sideshow is the flexpay option. I'm definitely a big user of that. With the NRD at time of ordering, it tricks my brain into thinking the extra sales tax doesn't exist:lol



This is true except with the caveat that you can pile of loot several figures and ship them all for $4. I think we talked on this earlier but I have K2, R2, Luke, and 2 gunners coming likely within 2 weeks of each other. Would have been $120 at sideshow to ship, and not double boxed.

Add to that, BBTS will pack a single figure in an extra box. Where Sideshow just slaps a label on the figures shipper...It's kind of a bummer.

TurdFurgusonsHat
09-07-2017, 01:35 PM
I wonder if this is an across the board change or if they are only doing this for sequel star wars figs because of the TFA stock debacle?

Also I agree that the now standard 12-15 month preorder window sucks. 6-9 months would be much better.

Popnfresh98
09-07-2017, 01:35 PM
I don't blame them. Look at the hot toys harley - they were completely sold out before. Now that it's released they have over 10 on preorder, as we can't see their real numbers. In that case I'm sure they'll still sell out, but it's good to know how many you need so you don't end up with too much stock. Look at all their TFA figures still waiting for a nice home..

Tesla619
09-07-2017, 01:37 PM
BBTS has pre orders now

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/60708

Tesla619
09-07-2017, 01:40 PM
But you also get points at Sideshow. So that $20 becomes $8 to ship on this figure. So you're really saving $4.

But you have to wait an extra 2 weeks to get the figure from the time Sideshow could have it to you.

And time = money.

What is the value of having first pics up here? Or having your figure in hand two weeks early? Or being able to get replacement parts while Sideshow still has them?

Is all that worth $4?


I've don't the math many times, being in California, we get hit with tax and shipping, not $4 shipping but $19 +/-, even with the rewards its not worth it.

BBTS is way cheaper on shipping than anyone maybe the overseas sellers yes, if you don't care about the brown shipper.

Tesla619
09-07-2017, 01:43 PM
When ordering from BBTS, do you get a shipper with the figure, or nah?

Yes, brown shipper is a Sideshow thing, sideshow is a distributor so anything from the states or Canada will have a B Shipper.

Hoody999
09-07-2017, 01:45 PM
Wonder if we'll see another figure tomorrow ? Lobster anyone ??

neb
09-07-2017, 01:47 PM
I'm hoping for Rey soon.

irezumi
09-07-2017, 01:52 PM
I'm seeing Keanu

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Aumakua
09-07-2017, 01:52 PM
I think we know why the first Ren didn't come with a head sculpt, that is pretty horrible, one of the worst I have seen lately out of Hot Toys. Not an easy sculpt but I wouldn't display him with that head, its not the paint either, its something with the actual sculpt (and hair maybe)

LipSmack
09-07-2017, 01:54 PM
BBTS has pre orders now

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/60708

:lol

BBTS has an NRD now

spindrift
09-07-2017, 01:54 PM
BBTS charging NRD now on these HT figures- the main reason I buy from them is gone now....arghh

TurdFurgusonsHat
09-07-2017, 01:55 PM
Wonder if we'll see another figure tomorrow ? Lobster anyone ??

And if so which helmet, the one inspired by jabba's sail barge or the pecker head version? Either way you can bet there will be an nrd on the lobsters.

spindrift
09-07-2017, 01:56 PM
Yep. They will lose business that's for sure.

But maybe they don't want to get burned on stock from a movie that isn't even out yet. If the movie sucks, everyone will cancel.


I would never pay an NRD unless its absolutely something that I know I will want even a year from now.

:lecture wise words...

Tesla619
09-07-2017, 01:56 PM
:lol

BBTS has an NRD now

Think it all started with the Storm trooper Executioner

hypnobrett
09-07-2017, 01:57 PM
I'll be shocked if the NRD is a regular thing. They had it for the Hulk figure that went up a few weeks ago as well and then nothing since then until these TLJ figures.

And Malgus, I think I'll preorder a random figure today at BBTS and cancel it next week just in your honor.


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Hazel
09-07-2017, 01:58 PM
I'm so glad they did this and it looks great - will be a PO for me. Kylo is one of my favorite SW characters. I have the typical response to the release of a new head sculpt buuut, I have to say it. The likeness is a little too off to me. They did a good job obviously - but I hope they do a little tweaking to get a better likeness. I thought their unreleased 1/4 sculpt looked a little more like Driver. Either way it's not a major issue to me and it's a good figure.

Malgus
09-07-2017, 02:00 PM
I'll be shocked if the NRD is a regular thing. They had it for the Hulk figure that went up a few weeks ago as well and then nothing since then until these TLJ figures.

And Malgus, I think I'll preorder a random figure today at BBTS and cancel it next week just in your honor.


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Thereby causing BBTS to increase the amount of figures with NRD. Very smart.

neb
09-07-2017, 02:08 PM
Hot Toys Adam sculpts for comparison...

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LewisD
09-07-2017, 02:10 PM
Could BBTS be doing NRD only on Hot Toys figures with head sculpts? There is usually a difference between a prototype and final product, perhaps they see more cancelations due to that?

Please guys, keep them in business at least until I receive my Luke ROTJ and Leia ESB. 😀

The Green Goblin
09-07-2017, 02:14 PM
NRDs everywhere means I don't have to worry about it selling out any time soon.

Popnfresh98
09-07-2017, 02:16 PM
NRDs everywhere means I don't have to worry about it selling out any time soon.

I agree, it's a good thing. You can just wait and make up your mind and plop down cash when you're sure, and it'll be there for you.

Darth KirBayBey
09-07-2017, 02:16 PM
I would like to find the Adam Driver head sculpt to put on the TFA body. Not a fan of Kylo's new look over his old look.

phobicsquirrel
09-07-2017, 02:17 PM
Man they should have kept the helmet. I just can't stand Adam Drivers face, lacks any sort of menacing features.

Star-Crunch
09-07-2017, 02:18 PM
I don't know, I think the sculpt is pretty good. I would definitely opt for the unmasked look if I get this.

dukefett
09-07-2017, 02:28 PM
I'm honestly assuming the NRD is for Episode 8 stuff because of how badly Ep 7 stuff sold. They just put Tarkin up for preorder with NRD, I think for OT stuff they'll be fine, but we'll see. I'm sure they had a ton of Phasma cancellations after her character stunk.

neb
09-07-2017, 02:39 PM
The real test is to see if there's a NRD on the next Hot Toys they put up that isn't ep 8 related.

They haven't put any HT up for pre-order since the Executioner Trooper (which was the first to have NRD on it as far as I know).

meth head
09-07-2017, 02:45 PM
New outfit is massively LAME!

The Jerker
09-07-2017, 02:55 PM
Starting to think I'm gonna dislike TLJ as much as I did TFA. That's not ok. :(

hypnobrett
09-07-2017, 02:58 PM
The new Hulk has an NRD, the new stormtrooper, and the new Kylo Ren. The unifying theme is that BBTS still has the previous versions of all those characters in stock, years later. Seems pretty simple to me?


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Star-Crunch
09-07-2017, 02:58 PM
Starting to think I'm gonna dislike TLJ as much as I did TFA. That's not ok. :(

If you didn't like TFA, then I'd say there's a pretty high chance you won't like TLJ.

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 03:00 PM
The new Hulk has an NRD, the new stormtrooper, and the new Kylo Ren. The unifying theme is that BBTS still has the previous versions of all those characters in stock, years later. Seems pretty simple to me?


Someone did their homework. :clap

No question mark at the end of your sentence though. A-

DasMuse
09-07-2017, 03:14 PM
I guess I'll wait for Episode 9 Kylo because this doesn't look good at all, especially the sculpt... Maybe it's the hair, but either way i'm not digging it at all. Hopefully it looks better when it's finished.

TheSensationalSean
09-07-2017, 03:45 PM
This doesn't look bad, but I'm happy enough with my TFA Kylo.


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Boba Ben
09-07-2017, 03:51 PM
I'd like to get him, but not top priority. He'll probably be produced in much smaller numbers than The Force Awakens version. Quantities all across the board seem to have gone down quite a bit.

K1NG J0RDAN
09-07-2017, 03:55 PM
I'd like to get him, but not top priority. He'll probably be produced in much smaller numbers than The Force Awakens version. Quantities all across the board seem to have gone down quite a bit.

Definitely a good thing IMO. To me it takes a bit of the collectibility away if they produce a crap ton. Especially when you can't even give away most of the TFA line at this point.

guyver1
09-07-2017, 04:06 PM
BBTS with an NRD! :gah: sucks!

Darth KirBayBey
09-07-2017, 04:10 PM
I enjoyed TFA and I'm sure I'll enjoy TLJ but as far as the figures, unless I see a Poe, I'm done with them. I'll concentrate more on the OT figures.

Boba Ben
09-07-2017, 04:13 PM
Definitely a good thing IMO. To me it takes a bit of the collectibility away if they produce a crap ton. Especially when you can't even give away most of the TFA line at this point.

I'd like it to be kind of in-between. Not so overproduced that they're hanging around for a couple years, but enough that they're around at least a couple months or so after release as I like to see in-hand pics and buy when things come in-stock. Civil War War Machine and the Snowspeeder Luke are a couple examples that didn't make it past the pre-order stage.

loki2371
09-07-2017, 04:20 PM
Vader, a timeless classic.................................... Kylo Ren, easily forgettable.

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20 years from now, Vader will still be hailed as an iconic cinema Villain. Meanwhile people will say Kylo who??!

darthkush
09-07-2017, 04:23 PM
I have to admit, I'm kind of shocked about all the negativity in this thread. We knew:

1. What his Last Jedi design looks like. We've known for months and those that didn't know somehow, all found out last week during force Friday.

2. What exactly was everyone wanting? Let's be real. This is Hot Toys. We're getting troopers, Kylo and Rey. NOTHING after that is certain. I think there'll be more but those are the only ones that you can bet the farm on. I do think we'll get Poe this time and I wouldn't be shocked if we get another Finn or Luke. But let's not go nuts. I sense Hot Toys is going to start making less figures from all the lines, not just Star Wars. I am not in anyway convinced Avengers Infinity War is going to be the "hot toys reckoning" many think it will be.

As for this figure, I think it looks pretty good. I have the first Kylo Ren but I always felt he was too tall. This looks a bit more scaled correctly and I like the new suit too. It's different enough that I don't feel I'm getting ripped off for buying him again but the "same" enough that it doesn't seem like a totally different character whom, in this case, is so far my favorite of the new trilogy so i'm likely going to buy this.

Really, what did everybody expect?

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 04:25 PM
He looks like Dooku to me.

And Dooku was a very lazy design. Supposed to appeal to those who wanted to see Christopher Lee as Dracula again, Count and all. Real clever, George.

darthkush
09-07-2017, 04:26 PM
Vader, a timeless classic.................................... Kylo Ren, easily forgettable.

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20 years from now, Vader will still be hailed as an iconic cinema Villain. Meanwhile people will say Kylo who??!

Vader is a classic but eventually...people will think highly of Ren too even if it's just the people who are young seeing theses movies now. Look how many people hate the prequel characters and how now they have a fanbase and people want figures of them. The sequel trilogy will be the same. Regardless of what us "oldies" in our 30's, 40's, and 50's think of him, Kylo Ren will be well liked eventually no matter what.

neb
09-07-2017, 04:30 PM
Vader, a timeless classic.................................... Kylo Ren, easily forgettable.

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20 years from now, Vader will still be hailed as an iconic cinema Villain. Meanwhile people will say Kylo who??!

Lol and you're comparing to TLJ Kylo as opposed to TFA Kylo which basically everyone agrees will be the "iconic" Kylo Ren look...

If you all hate Kylo Ren, why are you even in this thread?

Meanwhile, his costume in TFA is already pretty iconic and instantly recognizable. Next time, make a valid argument instead of using the new look that no one has seen the movie of yet to make a comparison? lol

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Johnny Utah
09-07-2017, 04:32 PM
NRD at BBTS really limits their sales. Morons.

Ebeneezer Jones
09-07-2017, 04:37 PM
Excellent.

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loki2371
09-07-2017, 04:39 PM
Vader is a classic but eventually...people will think highly of Ren too even if it's just the people who are young seeing theses movies now. Look how many people hate the prequel characters and how now they have a fanbase and people want figures of them. The sequel trilogy will be the same. Regardless of what us "oldies" in our 30's, 40's, and 50's think of him, Kylo Ren will be well liked eventually no matter what.

He'll never have the same visual appeal as Vader did. Sure fans will remember him, but he'll never make the list of most iconic on screen villains of all time. Vader will never leave that list... NEVER. Kylo won't even be a blip on the radar as of now. It's not that it's a bad design, it just doesn't resonate with me. I don't feel the need, want, or desire to have a representation of the character in my Star Wars collection. Unfortunately I feel that way about everything to date Disney has designed, other than BB-8.

A person in a Vader costume can walk into a party room of small young children and frighten them just by sight whether they know who he is or not. Kylo Ren walks into the same party room and the same little kids ask him where's the ice cream? He NEVER should've taken the mask off, at least not in the 1st movie.. Keep the audience wondering... Wanting to see more. These Star Wars movies have no magic for me. My son is 11 and he feels the same. He still wants all OT & PQ stuff.

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 04:39 PM
If you all hate Kylo Ren, why are you even in this thread?


Leave Kylo alone!!!!


https://i.imgflip.com/4de9t.jpg?a417936

loki2371
09-07-2017, 04:42 PM
Lol and you're comparing to TLJ Kylo as opposed to TFA Kylo which basically everyone agrees will be the "iconic" Kylo Ren look...

If you all hate Kylo Ren, why are you even in this thread?

Meanwhile, his costume in TFA is already pretty iconic and instantly recognizable. Next time, make a valid argument instead of using the new look that no one has seen the movie of yet to make a comparison? lol

Is this not a forum to discuss opinions? A lot of other on here seem to share the same feelings as I do. I didn't say anywhere it's terrible, just not memorable. Big difference.. If everyone on here just cheered and praised things would get pretty boring.

SilverStar17
09-07-2017, 04:42 PM
I would agree that TFA Kylo is most likely going to be his most iconic look, or the look that's synonymous with him.

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 04:43 PM
It's when Kylo is no doubt at his most evil. It's all downhill now.

SilverStar17
09-07-2017, 04:44 PM
It's when Kylo is no doubt at his most evil. It's all downhill now.

:lecture

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 04:46 PM
That's why they're deflecting by bringing Snoke in -- to cover the "evil" for the movie.

I hope kids here didn't think Kylo was the villain of this trilogy.

neb
09-07-2017, 04:46 PM
Is this not a forum to discuss opinions? A lot of other on here seem to share the same feelings as I do. I didn't say anywhere it's terrible, just not memorable. Big difference.. If everyone on here just cheered and praised things would get pretty boring.

If you're saying his new costume isn't memorable, I agree. If you're saying the TFA costume isn't memorable, I completely disagree.

Literally anyone that knows anything about Star Wars, if you show them a picture - they'll know that's Kylo Ren. If a dude walks into a kids classroom wearing TFA Kylo Ren's costume, pretty sure everyone will know exactly who it is. They're not going to ask "where the ice cream is".

That's the definition of memorable.

SilverStar17
09-07-2017, 04:50 PM
That's why they're deflecting by bringing Snoke in -- to cover the "evil" for the movie.

I hope kids here didn't think Kylo was the villain of this trilogy.

People were thinking it's going to be Kylo?

Everyone knows it's going to end up being Luke who turns. :lol

loki2371
09-07-2017, 04:51 PM
If you're saying his new costume isn't memorable, I agree. If you're saying the TFA costume isn't memorable, I completely disagree.

Literally anyone that knows anything about Star Wars, if you show them a picture - they'll know that's Kylo Ren. If a dude walks into a kids classroom wearing TFA Kylo Ren's costume, pretty sure everyone will know exactly who it is. They're not going to ask "where the ice cream is".

That's the definition of memorable.

The only somewhat cool facet of Kylo's look in TFA IS his mask. Take that away and he's a big nosed skinny white boy. Nothing scary at all. Like I said, I feel it was a big mistake on Disney's part to lose the evil look. In every SW movie, everyone is terrified of Vader, Imperials and Rebels. In TFA Kylo walks up to Poe after like 10 minutes of screen time and he pretty much laughs in his face and showed no fear at all. That's not saying much for the main villain

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 04:52 PM
I hear that Snoke plays the flute.

Boba Ben
09-07-2017, 04:52 PM
He looks like Dooku to me.

And Dooku was a very lazy design. Supposed to appeal to those who wanted to see Christopher Lee as Dracula again, Count and all. Real clever, George.

Did you see the episode of the Clone Wars cartoon where Count Dooku blackmailed the space bank into raising interest rates on the Republic?

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 04:53 PM
Did you see the episode of the Clone Wars cartoon where Count Dooku blackmailed the space bank into raising interest rates on the Republic?

That sounds very Lucas circa 1999.

Tee-Kay
09-07-2017, 04:55 PM
Hot Toys Adam sculpts for comparison...

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I wish HT would reuse that TFA 1/4 sculpt and offer it sowehow at the 1/6 scale.

TurdFurgusonsHat
09-07-2017, 04:55 PM
People were thinking it's going to be Kylo?

Everyone knows it's going to end up being Luke who turns. :lol

I'm beginning to hope luke turns evil and slaughters the whole Kathleen Kennedy cast. Technically I think that makes him a hero.

I suppose he could spare BB8

loki2371
09-07-2017, 04:56 PM
Why do people have to get so upset if someone doesn't like what they like. I grew up in tough times. I was 5 when SW came out. As A teenager I had to hide my love for SW unless I had friends who shared that same love. And never ever was it cool to wear a t-shirt to high school or even jr high. These younglings have it way too easy today..... :lol Everything is now mainstream and accepted. Wish it could've been like that in my day!! :(

neb
09-07-2017, 04:56 PM
The only somewhat cool facet of Kylo's look in TFA IS his mask. Take that away and he's a big nosed skinny white boy. Nothing scary at all. Like I said, I feel it was a big mistake on Disney's part to lose the evil look. In every SW movie, everyone is terrified of Vader, Imperials and Rebels. In TFA Kylo walks up to Poe after like 10 minutes of screen time and he pretty much laughs in his face and showed no fear at all. That's not saying much for the main villain

Take away Vader's suit he's a whiny Mama's boy who got his **** burnt off because he was a sissy ***** for 3 movies in a row. That's not the point we are talking about.

I'm saying literally just the costume's of the characters are instantly recognizable. If you say "Kylo Ren" to a kid, I'm betting what comes to their mind is Kylo in his TFA robes, the mask, the hood, the scarf, the lightsaber, etc. Just like when you say "Darth Vader" to a kid, they think of Vader in his armor rather than what's under it.

Our opinions of the characters themselves are irrelevant - as they vary from person to person. That has absolutely nothing to do with iconography. If that's the case, then saying that Willrow Hood is the most iconic character from Star Wars would simply make it true.

HTHero
09-07-2017, 04:56 PM
Huh, weird. Looks like BBTS is having people do down payments for PO's for this one

loki2371
09-07-2017, 04:57 PM
I'm beginning to hope luke turns evil and slaughters the whole Kathleen Kennedy cast. Technically I think that makes him a hero.

I suppose he could spare BB8

:yess:

SilverStar17
09-07-2017, 05:00 PM
I'm beginning to hope luke turns evil and slaughters the whole Kathleen Kennedy cast. Technically I think that makes him a hero.

I suppose he could spare BB8

In all seriousness, I do hope they don't have Luke turn bad. He's sort of supposed to be the "incorruptable Jedi" to me. However, I wouldn't be surprised if he does in a major plot twist, in which he teaches Rey the ways of The Force and his mind starts going down a dark path. Deep into her training, Rey recognizes what path Luke is taking and wants no part of it.

I think Hamill has expressed interest in the past that he would like to see the character turn bad. Perhaps that was one of the stipulations in order for him to return.

Malgus
09-07-2017, 05:13 PM
NRD at BBTS really limits their sales. Morons.

Yeah it limits their pre orders to people who intend to actually keep their order. Win win for BBTS.

Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 05:14 PM
Willrow Hood

You know who that is, don't you?

What important knowledge is being erased in your brain to make room for that?

Reefer Shark
09-07-2017, 05:21 PM
The figure looks nice to me, I will be flex paying Mr Driver here for my bad guy collection.

Im one of the very few that actually likes his look in TLJ. Kinda cool they didnt stick to the formula and leave the bad guy with the exact same look imo.

guyver1
09-07-2017, 05:35 PM
Vader, a timeless classic.................................... Kylo Ren, easily forgettable.

364362

20 years from now, Vader will still be hailed as an iconic cinema Villain. Meanwhile people will say Kylo who??!

That's what they were saying about the first Kylo..but I will wait on this

SilverStar17
09-07-2017, 05:41 PM
20 years from now, Vader will still be hailed as an iconic cinema Villain. Meanwhile people will say Kylo who??!

"You know, the guy that killed Han Solo."

"Oh yeah, Kylo Ren. The guy with the crackled lightsaber."

Mike86
09-07-2017, 05:55 PM
In all seriousness, I do hope they don't have Luke turn bad. He's sort of supposed to be the "incorruptable Jedi" to me. However, I wouldn't be surprised if he does in a major plot twist, in which he teaches Rey the ways of The Force and his mind starts going down a dark path. Deep into her training, Rey recognizes what path Luke is taking and wants no part of it.

I think Hamill has expressed interest in the past that he would like to see the character turn bad. Perhaps that was one of the stipulations in order for him to return.
I personally think it'd be a major cop out to have Luke turn to the Dark Side. Really hoping that's not the plan for his character.

j97e1
09-07-2017, 05:56 PM
Weird promo pic - Guess they wanted to make him look like a medieval knight, but wouldn't his saber go thru the floor? heh...

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Wor-Gar
09-07-2017, 05:56 PM
That's Snoke's chair behind them... why are they facing away from Snoke?

menoseloso
09-07-2017, 05:57 PM
In all seriousness, I do hope they don't have Luke turn bad. He's sort of supposed to be the "incorruptable Jedi" to me. However, I wouldn't be surprised if he does in a major plot twist, in which he teaches Rey the ways of The Force and his mind starts going down a dark path. Deep into her training, Rey recognizes what path Luke is taking and wants no part of it.

I think Hamill has expressed interest in the past that he would like to see the character turn bad. Perhaps that was one of the stipulations in order for him to return.

I don't think he will. I wouldn't mind if he did I just don't see Disney letting that happen. I could see him dying though. Or sacrificing himself similar to Obi.

Khev
09-07-2017, 07:10 PM
Wow I just noticed that when this ships not only will TLJ be out on blu-ray but *Han Solo* will already be out on blu as well.

karamazov80
09-07-2017, 07:18 PM
:monkey4:monkey4:monkey4:monkey4

Suck on it, Hot Toys.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivKf9QyRQ_U

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/t/57d6f03cff7c50d2236f5b69/1473704001239/hot-toys-unveils-their-incredible-1966-version-of-cesar-romeros-the-joker6

:(

guyver1
09-07-2017, 07:30 PM
Does the hilt seem less metallic to anyone else :dunno

Niltusk
09-07-2017, 07:53 PM
This figure reminds me of a 1:12 release, the material, sculpt, everything just seems a bit...off.