Captain America killed!

[urbanfreddy]

I saw this on another forum.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/503132p-424376c.html

[Darth Loki]

Someone get suicide watch over to Khev!!!!

[Buttmunch]

Don't see why they just didn't do that at the end of Civil War :confused:

[Darth Loki]

I wonder what this means for the value of the PF? :monkey1

[mfoga]

The real question is how will effect the sales of the PF?

[El Roranous]

Has this come out yet because I would like to read it?

[Anthos]

Very spoiler filled title you have there guy.

[BrianK]

It is all over Yahoo. He has been killed before so he will be back. Stupid though.

[Blu-Vapor00725]

The real question is how will effect the sales of the PF?

my guess is that pf is gonna skyrocket into uncharted value.
:mwaha

[urbanfreddy]

He should of stayed underground :lol

[Anthos]

Don't see why they just didn't do that at the end of Civil War :confused:


They did an interview or at Newsrama with the guys who did Civil War, and they said they felt it would have been too “gimicky” to kill him off in a Crossover event book. I like how this was handled, though it will be interesting to see who picks up the mantle of Cap. Names like Winter Solider and the Punisher have been thrown around as his replacement.

[Darth Loki]

my guess is that pf is gonna skyrocket into uncharted value.
:mwaha


Hope my exclusive wait list comes through :monkey3

[urbanfreddy]

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1552/rope0307lv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[carbo-fation]

I can't wait to read this issue! Wonder why decided to kill him off now?

[Blu-Vapor00725]

Hope my exclusive wait list comes through :monkey3


your a very lucky guy lol, now why didnt I get on the exclusive wait list:banghead

[urbanfreddy]

He'll be Back, i just can't wait for my PF EX from sideshow.:monkey5

[hairlesswookiee]

my guess is that pf is gonna skyrocket into uncharted value.
:mwaha

especially the exclusive version!!! im glad i have one of each on order. :chew

[urbanfreddy]

especially the exclusive version!!! im glad i have one of each on order. :chew

Amen :monkey5

[Batty]

I like how the first thing you guys think of is how much the PF will be worth. :lol

[darthviper107]

:monkey4 :emperor :monkey2

[urbanfreddy]

When’s the funeral.
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4964/6816press01001wu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Shai Hulud]

FINNALY THE DEATH OF AN AMERICAN ICON!!!! I THINK ITS VERY APPROPRIATE AND POETIC FROM MARVEL TO KILL THIS AMERICAN HERO WHO SYMBOLISE AMERICA IN OUR TIME...CANT YOU SEE ????


AMERICA HAS FAILED !!!!



R.I.P STEVE ROGERS !!!!


:monkey1 :monkey1 :monkey1

[Shai Hulud]

FINNALY THE DEATH OF AN AMERICAN ICON!!!! I THINK ITS VERY APPROPRIATE AND POETIC FROM MARVEL TO KILL THIS AMERICAN HERO WHO SYMBOLISE AMERICA IN OUR TIME...CANT YOU SEE ????


AMERICA HAS FAILED !!!!



R.I.P STEVE ROGERS !!!!


:monkey1 :monkey1 :monkey1


:lol :lol :lol WE ALL KNOW HE'S GOING TO BE RESURRECT IN A YEAR OR SO...WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMICS HERE GUYS....LOLL

[urbanfreddy]

AMEN :fireworks :flag :fireworks

[urbanfreddy]

:lol :lol :lol WE ALL KNOW HE'S GOING TO BE RESURRECT IN A YEAR OR SO...WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMICS HERE GUYS....LOLL
He's an AMERICAN ICON!!!! :monkey2 :D

[Darth Loki]

I wonder how long he'll stay dead? Or if they'll bring in someone who's a relative or something?

And I just ordered the regular from Bob, just in case my wait list doesn't come through.

[urbanfreddy]

I have to go now and cry,plus my daughter is up and i have to cook some breakfast.LOL :monkey2

[Batty]

I wonder how long he'll stay dead? Or if they'll bring in someone who's a relative or something?


He'll probably be back around the time the movie comes out in 2009.

[Darth Loki]

He'll probably be back around the time the movie comes out in 2009.


That'd be a great thing for publicity for both the comic and the movie. You may be on to something here.

[Karma]

time for zombie cap now :lol

[DouglasMcc]

I can't wait to read this issue! Wonder why decided to kill him off now?

I am sorry, but if this is what the Quesada, Bendis, Millar, etc. "modern" Marvel age is going to be ... make mine something else. Don't get me wrong ... I like the more edgy works that have come out this decade : 100 Bullets, Preacher, Ennis Marvel Books, Fables, etc. However, certain Marvel characters are cornerstones. Cap is more than just a muscle bound hero in tights. He was inspiration to our country in one of our darkest hours. He helped motivate and build morale during the dark days of WWII. He transcended comics and became an Icon ... symbol of what made America great. Doing this now for publicity is insulting ... and don't think they are doing it for anything other than attention. Why the he## would it be making the main stream new first if it was a natural progress of a story arc. Someone leaked it because they want to draw attention to Marvel Comics. Its as bad as, if not worse than the whole Death of Superman story line. And you saw how long Supes stayed dead.

I read Civil War frontline last week and a feeling of disgust began to set in. This feels like an extension of that. And I will be frank ... I don't like it. Let me explain. There are spoilers here, so skip this if you haven't read the book...


When the reporters are talking to Stark and uncover that it was he who masterminded the attack on the Atlantis diplomat ... that he did it to cause fear among the public, to create a fake war to garner support for his Initiative, I thought we were building to a cool ending ... an actual ending unlike Civil War. However, then the reporters pretty much say, "its okay, we won't report this because you were right." I couldn't believe how stupid this was. First, its insulting to the Woodward and Bernsteins of the world. Reporters report .. they tell the world the truth and let us decide right or wrong for ourselves. They don't cower under to the government or hide stuff from the public. But, I could have lived with that, because people are human and sometimes make bad decisions. However, it felt to me like the writer was trying to convince the reader that Stark was right. That it was okay to put American lives at risk for the sake of his pipedream. Now... don't get me wrong, I am a student of history. I realize this stuff happens all the time. It was no accident that the Germans were leaked info claiming the Luistannia was carrying war supplies. Everyone wanted the US to have a pretense to join WWII. And these instances go on and on throughout history. However, that doesn't make it right. Of course, the real world is not always cut and dry / black or white. However, that's what the "fantasy" of comics is suppose to provide us. It gives us a place where we can clearly define right and wrong ... where we can escape the "You can't handle the truth" mentality of the world, if only for 10 or 15 minutes. If Marvel is looking to mimic the currupt nature of the "real world", I can save my 3 bucks a book and turn on the Evening News. If they are trying to tell me the American Spirit is dead, I am done. I don't care if they are correct or not.

Captain America is a historical icon and doing this to him is not better than graffiting the Statue of Liberty. Okay, sorry ... I will step off my soap box now.

P.S. Sorry for any spelling errors... I wrote this from the heart. And my heart is a terrible speller :D

[King Darkness]

He'll be back. They always come back.

[Anthos]

I am sorry, but if this is what the Quesada, Bendis, Millar, etc. "modern" Marvel age is going to be ... make mine something else. Don't get me wrong ... I like the more edgy works that have come out this decade : 100 Bullets, Preacher, Ennis Marvel Books, Fables, etc. However, certain Marvel characters are cornerstones. Cap is more than just a muscle bound hero in tights. He was inspiration to our country in one of our darkest hours. He helped motivate and build morale during the dark days of WWII. He transcended comics and became an Icon ... symbol of what made America great. Doing this now for publicity is insulting ... and don't think they are doing it for anything other than attention. Why the he## would it be making the main stream new first if it was a natural progress of a story arc. Someone leaked it because they want to draw attention to Marvel Comics. Its as bad as, if not worse than the whole Death of Superman story line. And you saw how long Supes stayed dead.

I read Civil War frontline last week and a feeling of disgust began to set in. This feels like an extension of that. And I will be frank ... I don't like it. Let me explain. There are spoilers here, so skip this if you haven't read the book...


When the reporters are talking to Stark and uncover that it was he who masterminded the attack on the Atlantis diplomat ... that he did it to cause fear among the public, to create a fake war to garner support for his Initiative, I thought we were building to a cool ending ... an actual ending unlike Civil War. However, then the reporters pretty much say, "its okay, we won't report this because you were right." I couldn't believe how stupid this was. First, its insulting to the Woodward and Bernsteins of the world. Reporters report .. they tell the world the truth and let us decide right or wrong for ourselves. They don't cower under to the government or hide stuff from the public. But, I could have lived with that, because people are human and sometimes make bad decisions. However, it felt to me like the writer was trying to convince the reader that Stark was right. That it was okay to put American lives at risk for the sake of his pipedream. Now... don't get me wrong, I am a student of history. I realize this stuff happens all the time. It was no accident that the Germans were leaked info claiming the Luistannia was carrying war supplies. Everyone wanted the US to have a pretense to join WWII. And these instances go on and on throughout history. However, that doesn't make it right. Of course, the real world is not always cut and dry / black or white. However, that's what the "fantasy" of comics is suppose to provide us. It gives us a place where we can clearly define right and wrong ... where we can escape the "You can't handle the truth" mentality of the world, if only for 10 or 15 minutes. If Marvel is looking to mimic the currupt nature of the "real world", I can save my 3 bucks a book and turn on the Evening News. If they are trying to tell me the American Spirit is dead, I am done. I don't care if they are correct or not.

Captain America is a historical icon and doing this to him is not better than graffiting the Statue of Liberty. Okay, sorry ... I will step off my soap box now.

P.S. Sorry for any spelling errors... I wrote this from the heart. And my heart is a terrible speller :D



To an extent, I agree with you. I think that showing Stark in a very gray, borderline villainous mind set, is only a set up to something beyond Civil War. Think about it, would you rather have Cap’s side win at the end of Civil War and have things go back to status quo, or have Iron Man’s side win and set up great potential story lines. You have to imagine, Iron Man’s actions wont go unchecked, one way or another he will have to answer for it. WW Hulk will start stirring things up, and I have a feeling will have, for lack of a better term, Civil War 2. I think things will change, the whole Initiative storyline will only serve as a springboard for another event like series.

[Kookie]

Here's my 2 cents:

I am certainly no comic book fan or reader. Maybe this is a paradox but I love Marvel characters and films. I own 4 Marvel PF figures. I have nothing against comic books, I just don't collect or read them so my opinion is neutral.

Captain America seems to be a character that's very iconic story wise and visually. I myself am a little surprised a big budget film hasn't been created or isn't in the works. Anyway, maybe comic book sales on his character are down and having him killed off would generate new interest in this character. Maybe Marvel even has plans to create a more modern version of Captain America. Wasn't the original Captain created from a wounded or close to death soldier.

Maybe scientists have figured out a way to create an even more powerful soldier and given Captain America's ability to accept the transformation will emerge as an even more powerful superhero.

This is all speculation, but with Superman, Batman, Iron Man, Hulk, Ghost Rider, Spiderman, all having the attention, Maybe Marvel thought killing off Captain America would breathe new life...forgive the pun...into that character. Maybe he'll be back with a new costume....that could be cool

[Vader AL]

I am sorry, but if this is what the Quesada, Bendis, Millar, etc. "modern" Marvel age is going to be ... make mine something else. Don't get me wrong ... I like the more edgy works that have come out this decade : 100 Bullets, Preacher, Ennis Marvel Books, Fables, etc. However, certain Marvel characters are cornerstones. Cap is more than just a muscle bound hero in tights. He was inspiration to our country in one of our darkest hours. He helped motivate and build morale during the dark days of WWII. He transcended comics and became an Icon ... symbol of what made America great. Doing this now for publicity is insulting ... and don't think they are doing it for anything other than attention. Why the he## would it be making the main stream new first if it was a natural progress of a story arc. Someone leaked it because they want to draw attention to Marvel Comics. Its as bad as, if not worse than the whole Death of Superman story line. And you saw how long Supes stayed dead.

I read Civil War frontline last week and a feeling of disgust began to set in. This feels like an extension of that. And I will be frank ... I don't like it. Let me explain. There are spoilers here, so skip this if you haven't read the book...


When the reporters are talking to Stark and uncover that it was he who masterminded the attack on the Atlantis diplomat ... that he did it to cause fear among the public, to create a fake war to garner support for his Initiative, I thought we were building to a cool ending ... an actual ending unlike Civil War. However, then the reporters pretty much say, "its okay, we won't report this because you were right." I couldn't believe how stupid this was. First, its insulting to the Woodward and Bernsteins of the world. Reporters report .. they tell the world the truth and let us decide right or wrong for ourselves. They don't cower under to the government or hide stuff from the public. But, I could have lived with that, because people are human and sometimes make bad decisions. However, it felt to me like the writer was trying to convince the reader that Stark was right. That it was okay to put American lives at risk for the sake of his pipedream. Now... don't get me wrong, I am a student of history. I realize this stuff happens all the time. It was no accident that the Germans were leaked info claiming the Luistannia was carrying war supplies. Everyone wanted the US to have a pretense to join WWII. And these instances go on and on throughout history. However, that doesn't make it right. Of course, the real world is not always cut and dry / black or white. However, that's what the "fantasy" of comics is suppose to provide us. It gives us a place where we can clearly define right and wrong ... where we can escape the "You can't handle the truth" mentality of the world, if only for 10 or 15 minutes. If Marvel is looking to mimic the currupt nature of the "real world", I can save my 3 bucks a book and turn on the Evening News. If they are trying to tell me the American Spirit is dead, I am done. I don't care if they are correct or not.

Captain America is a historical icon and doing this to him is not better than graffiting the Statue of Liberty. Okay, sorry ... I will step off my soap box now.

P.S. Sorry for any spelling errors... I wrote this from the heart. And my heart is a terrible speller :D

i agree, our media twists things to appear this way so why can't comic writers be creative and not copy the real-world media. but at least they had characters like the thing who saw both sides and having good and bad points.

cap will be back though but they'll take a couple of years showing the new cap coming into his own. i would love to see the punisher take over the cap type roll....he way is kick a$$ and ask questions later. it's black or white, if you're a bad guy you die, if not, you just get punched in the face.

[The Mike]

Wow....this sucks. I'm getting a "Death of Superman" vibe and a "The Neo-Captain America is too merciless something has to be done..." vibe as well. They cloned Thor so that'd be an interesting twist to clone Steve and see how much more disconnected that character could be....especially if they take the aspect that the clone wouldn't have any of the original's memories. I just hope they put his replacement in a different uniform so when Steve does come back it isn't in anything to radicalized. :monkey2 RIP Steve Rogers......

[Natrix]

My theory: The killed Cap was an L.M.D. which would be an easy switch to have made since they were using Nick Fury's safehouse. I would think he would have one of those L.M.D.'s floating around. That could explain why Cap gave up at the end of the Civil War. I haven't read the issue yet but perhaps the Punisher (working in tandem with Cap) "assassinated" the LMD allowing the world at large to believe Cap to be dead. This would allow the real Cap to work underground and eventually come back to reclaim his mantle in a miraculous return from the dead to glory.

:flag :fireworks :flag

[BrianK]

They have gone the route of having someone else be Captain America many times during Cap's career. So it would not be new for this to happen. He has also came back as different personas. This is all retread stuff if they do this.

[King Darkness]

I like the super iconic pic Yahoo used:lol

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/ww/news/2007/03/07/captain_america_lg.jpg (http://www.yahoo.com/s/524276)

[carbo-fation]

Of all the theories presented here, Natrix's seems the most plausible. I too was very disappointed at the reaction of the reporters in the Front Line issue but Iron Man will go down, one way or the other.
Does anyone know how Thor died? I just recently started reading comics again with Civil War arc and I don't know much about the things that happened before. Thanks!:)

[El Roranous]

"I Killed that little ^^^^^^!"
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w288/the_zombie_doc/71551_press02-001.jpg

[JABBATHERIDGE]

Captain America's death will be a temporary thing, much like Superman's death and Batman's broken back.

There are certain characters in comic books who are pretty much untouchable and Captain America is certainly one of them, at least IMO, he's one of Marvel's biggest icons.

I don't really think this will affect the value of the PF at all though, it might prompt more people to pick up the comic books, but it doesn't follow that those people will then pay 100's of dollars for a statue of him as well. Guess we'll have to see though.

The Captain America PF is a very cool piece though and the best exclusive in SSC's history IMO.

[carbo-fation]

You guys are heartless! A man just died and all you're worried about is the price of some stupid 22" doll!:D

[JABBATHERIDGE]

And not just any man, a national hero, do you have any idea how many times that guy saved us all?:lol

[PosterBoyKelly]

WAITLIST CONVERT NOW...WAITLIST CONVERT NOW!

Meh, they always kill heros, if they're main, they come back. Maybe he'll come back as a flag burning hippy cap, or come back super-conservative with his sidekick Ann Coulter.

[Anthos]

Who knows, maybe he's only "mostly" dead...

[rogueboy]

Very spoiler filled title you have there guy.
Indeed. Thanks alot .

[optimus]

I like how the first thing you guys think of is how much the PF will be worth. :lol

The first thing I thought was that they had cancelled the PF. *Whew*

[PosterBoyKelly]

What ticks me off about crap like this is I buy/read comics all the tiome, I'm a fan./ And I go out, to the store and can't buy this cause every un-employed jagoff went and snatched it up! Ticks me off. I don't subscribe because I move around a lot, or atleast have over the last 4 months. I went 1 hour after opening to a local place and they were all oujt, no surprise. I gotta try ot get the McGuiness cover, he's the bomb!

[Khev]

The first thing I thought was that they had cancelled the PF. *Whew*
:lol "Whew" indeed. ;)

I haven't bought a Captain America comic since the 80's. The new hard boiled squinty eyed half-his-face-always-in-shadow Caps of today haven't appealed to me as much. Always looking for a good new story though.

He'll obviously be back but I'm definitely curious as to where they're going with this. My favorite storyline was from issues 332-350 where Steve Rogers stepped down as Cap and was replaced by a nearly psychotic John Walker (who would later become USAgent.) Of course they had a showdown with Rogers retaking the mantle. I wonder if they're going to go down a similar course with whatever story they're doing now.

Death certainly wouldn't be a low point for Cap. Not after all the late 80's/90's silliness of him becoming a werewolf, having a full body blood transfusion (remember kids, super soldier serums kill our athletes every year :monkey1) and of course that whole "Heroes Reborn" thing when he was drawn by "He Who Shall Not Be Named." :lol

[Eli26]

Well, you guys can always have Captain Canuck, right Shai? Our heros live forever!

And as for Captain America. Khev and I'll be grieving. We need your support...

You can support our loss by giving donations which will be used to pay off our 1/4 Premium Format Captain America mixed media statue preorders.

Thank you sincerely,

Eli26 and Khev

[Khev]

You can support our loss by giving donations which will be used to pay off our 1/4 Premium Format Captain America mixed media statue preorders.
Well I'd definitely be down with that. :)

[kodiak8658]

FINNALY THE DEATH OF AN AMERICAN ICON!!!! I THINK ITS VERY APPROPRIATE AND POETIC FROM MARVEL TO KILL THIS AMERICAN HERO WHO SYMBOLISE AMERICA IN OUR TIME...CANT YOU SEE ????


AMERICA HAS FAILED !!!!



R.I.P STEVE ROGERS !!!!


:monkey1 :monkey1 :monkey1

Are you deliberately trying to piss people off? Some of us have immediate family still in Iraq. Stop being such an immature dolt. America has failed? Maybe in their immigration policies.

[Spartan Rex]

Shai,
Do you ever get tired of yourself?

[Bannister]

Are you deliberately trying to piss people off? Some of us have immediate family still in Iraq. Stop being such an immature dolt. America has failed? Maybe in their immigration policies.
Did you read his post right after that?

[Buttmunch]

While this came a shock to me, I figured it would happen. I just thought Capt. Or Iron Man would end up kiling the other in the final CW. So I guess the way Capt died was the most shocking. I picked up the issue, but haven't read it yet. There are two covers. One of them says Civil War Epiloque on it so I guess it is still part of CW. For his death to really mean something they better not bring him back. Let him live in the Ultimate Parallel world or what ever. While I am sad to see Capt go, I was with Iron Man :monkey3

[Shai Hulud]

Are you deliberately trying to piss people off? Some of us have immediate family still in Iraq. Stop being such an immature dolt. America has failed? Maybe in their immigration policies.

I KNEW SOMEONE WOULD THREW ME THAT CARD...:lol :lol

SEE THE OTHER POST RIGHT AFTER THE ONE YOU QUOTE....

MY COUSIN WHOM I CONSIDER MORE AS A BROTHER FOR ALL MY LIFE IS IN AFGHANISTAN RIGHT NOW BY THE WAY...

[Shai Hulud]

Shai,
Do you ever get tired of yourself?


NEVER.....BUT I GET TIRED WHEN SOMEONES ALWAYS QUOTE THE BIBLE IN COLLECTIBLES FORUM.

[Shai Hulud]

Did you read his post right after that?


A SMART,SARCASTIC MAN.THIS IS HOW I LIKE MY FRIENDS TO BE.THANK YOU JOHN.

[Bannister]

A SMART,SARCASTIC MAN.THIS IS HOW I LIKE MY FRIENDS TO BE.THANK YOU JOHN.
:rock:rock:rock

[DarkArtist81]

A SMART,SARCASTIC MAN.THIS IS HOW I LIKE MY FRIENDS TO BE.THANK YOU JOHN.

:rock:rock:rock:rock

And again Bannister proves that he is indeed.....the man. :rotfl

[Shai Hulud]

:rock:rock:rock:rock

And again Bannister proves that he is indeed.....the man. :rotfl


OH YEAH, AND THAT GREAT CUSTOMISER IS ONE I CALL FRIEND ALSO...HE'S BEEN IN OPERATION IRAQUI-FREEDOM FYI....I DONT SEE HIM GETTING ALL PISS OFF ABOUT MY IDIOTIC,OVER THE TOP COMMENTS...


BACK TO DISCUSSION....CAP'S DEAD.

[Bannister]

:rock:rock:rock:rock

And again Bannister proves that he is indeed.....the man. :rotfl
Wise words DA. In case you didn't know, I am ****ing awesome.:rock:rock:rock

[The ill Jedi]

He'll be Back, i just can't wait for my PF EX from sideshow.:monkey5

Yup, it's just a matter of time.

I am kinda sad at the moment though, I was never a huge Cap fan, but in the past year I grew to like him a lot. :monkey2

[The ill Jedi]

Maybe in their immigration policies.

It wasn't enough to insult Shai, then you have to throw this in? The only true and original natives to this land were Indians and Mexicans (The original Mojados) everyone else after that is an immigrant!

[DarkArtist81]

OH YEAH, AND THAT GREAT CUSTOMISER IS ONE I CALL FRIEND ALSO...HE'S BEEN IN OPERATION IRAQUI-FREEDOM FYI....I DONT SEE HIM GETTING ALL PISS OFF ABOUT MY IDIOTIC,OVER THE TOP COMMENTS...


BACK TO DISCUSSION....CAP'S DEAD.

:D Indeed.... Hell, you should hear half of the S**T talk that comes out of MY mouth about our Government, especially when I get drunk.... :lol

And Cap will be back... Comics characters die all the time. They won't keep him down for long.

[El Roranous]

It wasn't enough to insult Shai, then you have to throw this in? The only true and original natives to this land were Indians and Mexicans (The original Mojados) everyone else after that is an immigrant!
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w288/the_zombie_doc/mojados-1.jpg
That's right Los Mojados were here first and we deserve all the Doom Pimp Cups!

[Buttmunch]

Lets get this thread back on track:

Update your Banners guys

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2335/waswithcapamericaql3.png

[The ill Jedi]

That's right Los Mojados were here first and we deserve all the Doom Pimp Cups!

The Racing Chorizo agrees!

http://www.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2006/07/itsachorizo.jpg

Still sad about Cap though. :monkey2

[The ill Jedi]

Lets get this thread back on track:

Update your Banners guys

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2335/waswithcapamericaql3.png

Nope. Mine will read: STILL with Captain America!
Can you make one for me? :o

[LordAzrael]

To an extent, I agree with you. I think that showing Stark in a very gray, borderline villainous mind set, is only a set up to something beyond Civil War. Think about it, would you rather have Cap’s side win at the end of Civil War and have things go back to status quo, or have Iron Man’s side win and set up great potential story lines. You have to imagine, Iron Man’s actions wont go unchecked, one way or another he will have to answer for it. WW Hulk will start stirring things up, and I have a feeling will have, for lack of a better term, Civil War 2. I think things will change, the whole Initiative storyline will only serve as a springboard for another event like series.

What I want to know is why is it AGAIN Iron Man who's the "traitor" ? the last time that happened was when I dropped Marvel comics all together. I've only just got back into it with the relaunch of Moon Knight.

[Buttmunch]

Nope. Mine will read: STILL with Captain America!
Can you make one for me? :o

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7606/stillwithcapuz7.png

I do want you to know I was with Iron Man though :monkey3

[Spartan Rex]

NEVER.....BUT I GET TIRED WHEN SOMEONES ALWAYS QUOTE THE BIBLE IN COLLECTIBLES FORUM.

My quotes were relevant to the thread/topic in which they were posted.
Which happened to be under "Other Discussion".
I also remember your contribution to that thread was "deep & profound."
Did you appreciate that sarcasm, or do you just like the sound of your own?

[The ill Jedi]

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7606/stillwithcapuz7.png

I do want you to know I was with Iron Man though :monkey3

Thanks you Sir!!!

As for the Irom Man thing, we can't all be perfect! :D

[Shai Hulud]

Well, you guys can always have Captain Canuck, right Shai? Our heros live forever!





http://www3.telus.net/public/tenbear/Captain%20canuck.gif

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/thecousincompany/canuck-closeup.jpg



:rock :lol :lol :lol

[Buttmunch]

Thanks you Sir!!!

As for the Irom Man thing, we can't all be perfect! :D

Your welcome. :lol For all we know, Tony hired the sniper :o That would make things interesting.

[The ill Jedi]

Your welcome. :lol For all we know, Tony hired the sniper :o That would make things interesting.

*Gasp* That BASTARD!!! I hope HULK squeezes that chump like a can of sardines!

http://www.datrondynamics.com/images/sardines.gif

[Shai Hulud]

*Gasp* That BASTARD!!! I hope HULK squeezes that chump like a can of sardines!

http://www.datrondynamics.com/images/sardines.gif


its only a matter of time, dont worry.

[nash]

I hope they kill Ironman next and let the "real" mutants and superpowers remain.

[Bardoon]

Perhaps it's a way for Cap to go underground again and hide behind a different superhero identity?

Who says that the Winter Soldier (Bucky) isn't helping him out on this?

[twistedfreak]

Who cares about Captain America? Captain Canuck is all we need!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/Tylertheman/CaptainCanuck.jpg



All joking aside, Captain America may be down for now, but he will not stay down. He is too important to the Marvel universe to put down for good. Cap is an American icon. Like Supes, he will be back. And it will be a great day when he does come back. He will be back. It is only a matter of time before he comes back and starts kicking some @$$.

[SSC_Nerd]

I can't say that I read many comics these days, but I'm pretty choked up by this. I'll never look at my PF Captain America the same again.:monkey2


But hey, at least I got Cap vs. The Red Skull until the his PF comes.:D

[Asura]

He'll be back. One thing about Marvel universe is that no one stays dead, and no one ages. ;P

They're already bringing Brock back.

Hawkeye died, and now...he's alive and well.

[IrishJedi]

Bucky is going to assume the mantle of Captain America for some time.

Quesada openly dislikes the Steve Rogers character. :(

[Captain Faramir]

The only way they could redeem this is to have Captain underground. This could generate HUGE sympathy for Capt.'s cause, and would make Stark look really really bad. Once enough support is drawn Rogers could reappear with enough clout and honor to battle Stark from a moral AND physical standpoint. He could do a lot from this position. But keeping him dead? Really killing him? In my eyes, that's murder--but on the part of the writers. They would have to have WANTED to kill him, and that to me is both sick and subversive.


LONG LIVE CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :flag

[Monk]

Bucky is going to assume the mantle of Captain America for some time.

Quesada openly dislikes the Steve Rogers character. :(

:emperor Steve Rogers is Captain America personified. Sure he's a bit rough around the edges. Sure he's an idealist. Sure he can come off as a bully. (Read "The Ultimates.") But his ideals are bloody brilliant, and he's now shown that he's not afraid to buck the administration in charge to see to it that those ideals are upheld.

I hope Quesada is smart enough to leave his personal feelings out of the character.

[Darth Waller]

Quesada openly dislikes the Steve Rogers character.

Kind of like how most people dislike Quesada. :D

I'd like to get CA 25, but I refuse to pay $10 (going rate on eBay) for a comic that came out today.

[BrianK]

:
I hope Quesada is smart enough to leave his personal feelings out of the character.

You are giving Quesada way too much credit. He has been one of the main problems with marvel today. Give me the days of Jim Shooter.

[PosterBoyKelly]

OK, WHat am I missing? Bullets can hurt him? I thought he had Super Soldier Serum coarsing through him, what the hell? Why didn't someone just shoot him before? I mean Superman had the crap knocked out of him in a glorious battle, Cap. gets....capped? Cmon!

[Darth Waller]

Marvel is getting sniper happy.

[The Mike]

Kind of like how most people dislike Quesada. :D

I'd like to get CA 25, but I refuse to pay $10 (going rate on eBay) for a comic that came out today.

$10 is a steal....most of the standard covers are going for at least $15...variants for almost double...not to mention all the people selling their WWLA variants already...

[screamingmetal]

Interesting. I haven't been reading comics for a year or so mostly because I'm sick of retread, but this issue I might have to find. It will probably be like the Death of Superman thing, I went down to the comic store that day after school and it was long soldout.
Captain America was always best when he was fighting symbolically in a war but with all the other superheroes with much more superior powers running around it would be hard for him to stick out of the crowd. I think they're killing him off to recreate him with better powers.
Captain America issues never really sell all that well unless theres a really good artist on them like Cassaday, I think this is a good thing for the Capt, it should reinvigorate the character.

I do wish Capt. was taken out in a bit more grandiose way, like having the Hulk smash him into paste or something, a sniper bullet is a bit boring.

[customizerwannabe]

I do wish Capt. was taken out in a bit more grandiose way, like having the Hulk smash him into paste or something, a sniper bullet is a bit boring.

Yes, but easier to resurrect than red white and blue paste.:D Antone who thinks he won't be back is a dreamer.

[Mookeylama]

Bucky is going to assume the mantle of Captain America for some time.

Quesada openly dislikes the Steve Rogers character. :(
lol. i've always heard "no one stays dead in the MU EXCEPT Bucky" dont tell me Bucky is alive now (quit reading over a year ago). if so this is hella ironic.

[screamingmetal]

Yes, but easier to resurrect than red white and blue paste.:D Antone who thinks he won't be back is a dreamer.
:lol
Of coarse he'll be back, but even red, white, and blue paste can be resurrected in comics. Nothing is impossible. I just wish they left Colossus dead. I like the character a lot, but loved the way he died.

[IrishJedi]

$10 is a steal....most of the standard covers are going for at least $15...variants for almost double...not to mention all the people selling their WWLA variants already...

Geez... I walked into my local comic shop at 7:00 tonight and bought one for the cover price of $3.99. They had tons of them. Of course, they are also limiting them to 1 per customer.

By the way, not to give much away but he doesn't exactly get killed by a sniper. I will say no more.

[wookilar8]

Forget Bucky returning as the Winter Soldier, Marvel just a few weeks ago did something even worse. In Civil War: The Return they brought back Captain Marvel. His death in the graphic novel "The Death Of Captain Marvel" was one of the greatest death scenes in comics. Mar-Vell hasn't been brought back to life, he's just been taken out of his time. He's still going to die, but his return kind of cheapens Jim Starlin's great story.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e35/wookilar8/Deathcaptainmarvel.jpg (1982)

[Khev]

Geez... I walked into my local comic shop at 7:00 tonight and bought one for the cover price of $3.99. They had tons of them. Of course, they are also limiting them to 1 per customer.
Was it at least a cool story?

My wife was watching the news tonight when I was in the kitchen and I heard her call me, I heard the word "sniper" and immediately scrambled to the family room to see what the breaking story was. Of course you can probably guess what they were reporting about. :) When it was done my wife said, "They report that on the news?" :lol

[Mookeylama]

Forget Bucky returning as the Winter Soldier, Marvel just a few weeks ago did something even worse. In Civil War: The Return they brought back Captain Marvel. His death in the graphic novel "The Death Of Captain Marvel" was one of the greatest death scenes in comics. Mar-Vell hasn't been brought back to life, he's just been taken out of his time. He's still going to die, but his return kind of cheapens Jim Starlin's great story.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e35/wookilar8/Deathcaptainmarvel.jpg (1982)
holy crap. i just got done explaining to the wife (who listened w/ feigned interest lol) about how the 2 characters Marvel have never brought back were Bucky and Mar-Vell. sheesh! that's partly why i stopped collecting. in ye olden days, "shock stories" were rare enough to hold some dramatic weight. but nowadays every freakin arc is a death, rape, alt timeline where universe is destoyed, story.

[Khev]

When Cap returns, there's going to be hell to pay, coming next summer:

WORLD WAR CAP

:rock :rock :rock :rock

[Buttmunch]

Geez... I walked into my local comic shop at 7:00 tonight and bought one for the cover price of $3.99. They had tons of them. Of course, they are also limiting them to 1 per customer.

By the way, not to give much away but he doesn't exactly get killed by a sniper. I will say no more.

Yeah I figured this issue would sell out fast. I usually go to the comic shop (that won the SDCC best comic store in 2005) on my way home from school on Thursdays. Today I just went to a store up the street that sells them. They are one of those Dungeon and Dragons/Word of Warcraft/minature battle game shops. They don't bag or board their comics, but since they aren't a "comic book shop" I figured they would have it still. Sure enough I get there and they pull it straight out of the box for me. Got one of each cover. The other cover kinda sucks, but the other is pretty cool. Still haven't read it. Just glanced through it - looked at the pictures you know. :lol

[kodiak8658]

It wasn't enough to insult Shai, then you have to throw this in? The only true and original natives to this land were Indians and Mexicans (The original Mojados) everyone else after that is an immigrant!

Immigration by today's standards professor, not ancient North American history.
America apologizes for holding a gun to the head of all those immigrants and Americans alike that complain about and badmouth the USA, their policies, and their military; preventing them from leaving the country. Consider yourselves FREE to go at anytime.

[kodiak8658]

:lol :lol :lol WE ALL KNOW HE'S GOING TO BE RESURRECT IN A YEAR OR SO...WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMICS HERE GUYS....LOLL

You were talking about the parallels between the death of Captain America and the demise of America the country, and how it has failed. Perhaps in it's policies or the war in Iraq? Seriously, don't lite a fire if you don't want the heat. You should drop the subject and immediately apologize to the people you have insulted, intentional or not. :emperor

[kodiak8658]

Wise words DA. In case you didn't know, I am ****ing awesome.:rock:rock:rock

I'm sure you do great with the ladies. :rolleyes:

[Eli26]

Way I see it is Shai didn't mean anything personal by the comments. Sure some of his comments come off sounding stupid, but it's Shai. But he's just a kid at heart, as is Bannister. Actually the way Bannister treats Shai, I often wonder about him. I wonder if he's an Elton John fan. Hmmm.... As for Bannister loving himself, he has to or else nobody would. Just kidding Bans!

Seriously guys this is just a toy forum, don't make it into more than what it is. If you guys get this easily hostile or agitated by comments made on a toy forum, I wonder how a few of you are like in every day society.

Now lets all hold hands and sing Kumbyyah.

[Shai Hulud]

You were talking about the parallels between the death of Captain America and the demise of America the country, and how it has failed. Perhaps in it's policies or the war in Iraq? Seriously, don't lite a fire if you don't want the heat. You should drop the subject and immediately apologize to the people you have insulted, intentional or not. :emperor


CONGRATULATION !!!!!! :fireworks :fireworks :fireworks :fest :clap :elefant :ccheerlea



YOU'VE JUST BEEN ADD TO THE LIST OF: FANATIKAL NEW-B WHO MUST BE DESTROYED AT FIRST SIGHT.

[Shai Hulud]

.
Seriously guys this is just a toy forum, don't make it into more than what it is. If you guys get this easily hostile or agitated by comments made on a toy forum, I wonder how a few of you are like in every day society.

.



''THIS IS WHY I'M HERE....ITS MY JOB TO AGITED THEM ON A TOY FORUM.

AND I'M THE BEST AT WHAT I DO....''

[King Darkness]

I think Shai is funny and his comments usually come at just the right time. How anyone can take genuine offense to anything he says is beyond me.

March forth Shai and continue your dastardly ways, for I find them to be amusing!!!

[Shai Hulud]

I think Shai is funny and his comments usually come at just the right time. How anyone can take genuine offense to anything he says is beyond me.

March forth Shai and continue your dastardly ways, for I find them to be amusing!!!


THANK YOU MY KING....:bow :bow :bow :lol


Hey Chase did you receive my ''gift'' yet?

[King Darkness]

THANK YOU MY KING....:bow :bow :bow :lol


Hey Chase did you receive my ''gift'' yet?

No I havent:confused:

When did you send it, and who did you use???

I have been wondering where it is.

[Shai Hulud]

I DIDNT SHIP IT EXPRESS...THAT MUST EXPLAIN THE DELAY (SPELLING ?).HOPE IT IS NOT LOST IN THE MAIL...:monkey4

I'M SURE YOU'LL GET IT SOON...

[King Darkness]

I DIDNT SHIP IT EXPRESS...THAT MUST EXPLAIN THE DELAY (SPELLING ?).HOPE IT IS NOT LOST IN THE MAIL...:monkey4

I'M SURE YOU'LL GET IT SOON...


I hope so too!!!!

I have faith that the Mighty Kurgan Lord will get it safely to me!!!

[Shai Hulud]

CONGRATULATION !!!!!! :fireworks :fireworks :fireworks :fest :clap :elefant :ccheerlea



YOU'VE JUST BEEN ADD TO THE LIST OF: FANATIKAL NEW-B WHO MUST BE DESTROYED AT FIRST SIGHT.



AT FIRST I HAD WROTE ''FANATIKAL NEW-B WHO MUST BE BEHEADED AT FIRST SIGHT'' (WHICH IS THE KURGAN WAY)....BUT I DONT WANT KODIAK TO THINK I'M AN IRAQUI SYMPATHIZER....:rolleyes:

[Eli26]

You guys are so weird.

I feel ashamed to be apart of these forums! No, not really. I like everyone on here.

Hey, if he's a King can I be a court jester?!

[King Darkness]

Hey, if he's a King can I be a court jester?!

Hell yeah, we need some humor around here.

[Eli26]

Hell yeah, we need some humor around here.

Heck yeah this place needs humor. After seeing the Star Wars fans have a fet with the Fett PF being plastic, makes me want to jump face first into a mound of horse crap.

[King Darkness]

makes me want to jump face first into a mound of horse crap.

Now thats the kind of humor I like to see.

When and where will you be performing this!?!?!?!?

And also, if you dont mind me asking, will the horse crap be fresh??.....no...no...dont tell me, I want it to be a surprise.

[TOE]

Heck yeah this place needs humor. After seeing the Star Wars fans have a fet with the Fett PF being plastic, makes me want to jump face first into a mound of horse crap.

Eli would make a great Kurgan jester :chew

[kodiak8658]

AT FIRST I HAD WROTE ''FANATIKAL NEW-B WHO MUST BE BEHEADED AT FIRST SIGHT'' (WHICH IS THE KURGAN WAY)....BUT I DONT WANT KODIAK TO THINK I'M AN IRAQUI SYMPATHIZER....:rolleyes:

Maybe I did overreact. You do seem goofy in a weird sort of geeky way and other members have rushed to your defense. And I guess I should feel privledged I didn't get the order to be beheaded. But watch out....

there can be only one!

[King Darkness]

Maybe I did overreact. You do seem goofy in a weird sort of geeky way and other members have rushed to your defense. And I guess I should feel privledged I didn't get the order to be beheaded. But watch out....

there can be only one!


Just between you and me, Shai has a bunch of us on the "payroll" if you know what I mean. He gets blasted and we jump to his defense.

Shhhhhh.....dont tell anyone, Shai would be pissed if I said anything.

[LordAzrael]

Just between you and me, Shai has a bunch of us on the "payroll" if you know what I mean. He gets blasted and we jump to his defense.

Shhhhhh.....dont tell anyone, Shai would be pissed if I said anything.

HEY I DIDN'T GET MY CHEQUE!!!

THAT'S IT SHAI SUCKS............. AT LEAST UNTIL I GET PAID :emperor

[King Darkness]

HEY I DIDN'T GET MY CHEQUE!!!

THAT'S IT SHAI SUCKS............. AT LEAST UNTIL I GET PAID :emperor

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Eli26]

Now thats the kind of humor I like to see.

When and where will you be performing this!?!?!?!?

And also, if you dont mind me asking, will the horse crap be fresh??.....no...no...dont tell me, I want it to be a surprise.

You should know your lordship, it did come from your behind.

*skidoodles*

[Eli26]

HEY I DIDN'T GET MY CHEQUE!!!

THAT'S IT SHAI SUCKS............. AT LEAST UNTIL I GET PAID :emperor


No worries, he pays in Monopoly money anyway. After his Hulk PF purchase the poor guy has been passing off Monopoly money as the real thing.

Such desperate new lows. :monkey2

[King Darkness]

You should know your lordship, it did come from your behind.

*skidoodles*

:dump.......:yuck

[Eli26]

You gotta love that smiley. I wonder what the guy was on when he created that.

And heck yeah I'll be a Kurgan Jester if I get my own bumper sticker and all the free Guinny!

[Shai Hulud]

Maybe I did overreact. You do seem goofy in a weird sort of geeky way and other members have rushed to your defense. And I guess I should feel privledged I didn't get the order to be beheaded. But watch out....

there can be only one!

Peace dude.:peace

[PosterBoyKelly]

OOOOHH I just read Marvel Zombies vs. Army of Darkness, THAT'S how Cap dies, get's bitten by zombies and turned into the un-dead! I forgot! P.S. Marvel Zombies > Captain America 25. I grabbed the last McGuiness cover at my local place, mainly for the cover. McGuiness rocks the house!

So who's selling their for like $100 on ebay? CONGRATS!

[Darth Waller]

''THIS IS WHY I'M HERE....ITS MY JOB TO AGITED THEM ON A TOY FORUM.

AND I'M THE BEST AT WHAT I DO....''

Reminds me of Wolverine's line from Uncanny X-Men years back:

"I'm the best there is at what I do. But what I do best isn't very nice."

[Darth Waller]

$10 is a steal....most of the standard covers are going for at least $15...variants for almost double...not to mention all the people selling their WWLA variants already...

I guess $10 was a steal yesterday. I just looked and they're up to $30 each. Judging by the number of these on eBay, did anyone actually buy these to read or were they all bought up to flip? :rolleyes:

[PosterBoyKelly]

I guess $10 was a steal yesterday. I just looked and they're up to $30 each. Judging by the number of these on eBay, did anyone actually buy these to read or were they all bought up to flip? :rolleyes:


Read it.....flipped it:monkey5

I only bought it cause' I wanted it, but if someone is gonna offer me like 4 times what I paid, they can have it. I doubt it'll be worth anyhting much down the road. What's Supermans death worht? Like $10-$20? And that came in a sealed black bag with an armband! Plus I got my connections I can score another at cover price to keep for myself. Some people are making like $100 off both covers, that's crazy!

[The Mike]

I just want one. :monkey2

Don't really care about the cover....my local comic shop sold out of them people bought five or six of each so you know that they're on eBay right now for $40.00 each. :rolleyes:

[JABBATHERIDGE]

Wow

This has appeared as an actual story in one of the British newspapers today, I can't believe it's caused such a big deal. I guess Cap must've been dear to alot of hearts after all.

RIP Cap.

Hope your time in the dead lounge waiting to be resurrected isn't too long, I'm sure he'll be back in time for when the movie comes out.

[El Roranous]

I just want one. :monkey2

Don't really care about the cover....my local comic shop sold out of them people bought five or six of each so you know that they're on eBay right now for $40.00 each. :rolleyes:
My local shop said they sold out in about 5 minutes. :monkey2
Anyone want to send me one?

[Mookeylama]

hell i'll just download it. someone will scan it and have it up soon, if it's not already.

[carbo-fation]

hell i'll just download it. someone will scan it and have it up soon, if it's not already.
It's already up! I am not sure whether I am allowed to post the link or not!

[TOE]

It's already up! I am not sure whether I am allowed to post the link or not!

send me the link by pm buddy :chew

[Mookeylama]

send me the link by pm buddy :chew

yeah PM me too. tho i bet i know where to look lol.

[twistedfreak]

It's already up! I am not sure whether I am allowed to post the link or not!


PM me man!

[Shai Hulud]

i'd love to have that link to guys....

[twistedfreak]

i'd love to have that link to guys....

I shot you a pm with the link Shai.

[El Roranous]

I shot you a pm with the link Shai.
Me too?:monkey2 :monkey3

[Darth Loki]

Me too?:monkey2 :monkey3


Me three :monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2

[customizerwannabe]

I know I'm not a Kurgan, but...me 4?? :o

[TOE]

It's already up! I am not sure whether I am allowed to post the link or not!

Thanks Ash :chew

[Mookeylama]

anyone still need the link?


man what a lousy death. Supes gets a multi-crossover mega battle and Cap gets this... :confused:

[Darth Loki]

anyone still need the link?


man what a lousy death. Supes gets a multi-crossover mega battle and Cap gets this... :confused:


I do:monkey4 :monkey4 :monkey4

[RoboDad]

anyone still need the link?
:wave

Please?

[TOE]

that was pretty intense. pridictable, but intense.

[The Mike]

I'd love the link...:monkey2

[The ill Jedi]

I shot you a pm with the link Shai.

Me five, please.:o

[Darth Loki]

Thanks Mookey. That was pretty sad :monkey2

[El Roranous]

Me five, please.:o
Me six, please:o

[customizerwannabe]

Me still 4.:o

[Mookeylama]

gotcha:lol :lol :lol

[The ill Jedi]

Thank You's to TOE, Carbo & Mookey. You guys :rock

[El Roranous]

Thank You's to TOE, Carbo & Mookey. You guys :rock
I agree. Thanks :rock

[carbo-fation]

You're welcome guys! Anyone still need the link?

[BrianK]

Please send me a link.
Thanks

[The Mike]

Thank you to TOE and to Monkeylama for the links an interesting read one that I definitely want in a paper copy.....the twist at the was an interesting one but like many other I would have preferred a death in battle....

[Darth Waller]

I'd appreciate a link. I broke down and bought one of each cover from eBay, but at least I can try to read it before it gets here. If it keeps increasing in price, I may just turn around and resell them. :monkey3

[El Roranous]

I'd appreciate a link. I broke down and bought one of each cover from eBay, but at least I can try to read it before it gets here. If it keeps increasing in price, I may just turn around and resell them. :monkey3
How much did it end up costing you if you don't mind me asking?

[The Mike]

I'm holding out hope that TOE will be able to find me at least one of the covers from his LCS. I will though break down and buy one of each cover from eBay although I'm tempted to wait and see if Dynamic Forces offers up an autographed deal especially since one of Cap's creators is still alive. If I'm gonna pay through the nose for Cap 25 it might as well be worth it.

[Darth Waller]

How much did it end up costing you if you don't mind me asking?

The set was $50 shipped. Their feedback is excellent and they ship in "bomb proof packaging". :)

That freaking $10 each I posted yesterday really looks like a bargain now. If only I'd known. :monkey2

[Darth Waller]

I'm holding out hope that TOE will be able to find me at least one of the covers from his LCS. I will though break down and buy one of each cover from eBay although I'm tempted to wait and see if Dynamic Forces offers up an autographed deal especially since one of Cap's creators is still alive. If I'm gonna pay through the nose for Cap 25 it might as well be worth it.

DF has one signed by Stan Lee and Joe Simon. Only $299.99.

[The Mike]

Already huh....the two signatures boosts the price that much.....the only sig I want is Joe Simon's.....I'll have to jump to their site.

[El Roranous]

The set was $50 shipped. Their feedback is excellent and they ship in "bomb proof packaging". :)

That freaking $10 each I posted yesterday really looks like a bargain now. If only I'd known. :monkey2
I just bit the bullet too. I wish it had been $10 each. I wonder if these will eventually crash back down in price.

[Darth Waller]

I just bit the bullet too. I wish it had been $10 each. I wonder if these will eventually crash back down in price.

They probably will, but that's what we get for getting caught up in the hype. Oh the life of a collector. :lol

[The Mike]

They will, tis the way with these deaths, it'll continue to rise until the character is resurrected and then the prices will crash and bottom out.

[Anton Phibes]

Already huh....the two signatures boosts the price that much.....the only sig I want is Joe Simon's.....I'll have to jump to their site.


Speaking of Joe Simon...Still, the character's death came as a blow to co-creator Joe Simon.

"We really need him now," said Simon, 93, who worked with artist Jack Kirby to devise Captain America as a foe for Adolf Hitler.

We really need him now is an understatement.

[Darth Waller]

He'll be back since Marvel doesn't know dead. I just wonder if they're waiting until July 2009 to coincide with the CA movie.

[Bardoon]

I just got back from my comic shop (Phoenix Comics & Toys in Herndon,VA for those around the area) and they were sold out of Cap #25. This is a pretty big comic shop and carries toys,statues,shirts,and other collectibles.

They said they sold out around 2 pm and that they had a lot of people in there that they had never seen before.I've heard and seen that Cap's death has been all over the news,internet and papers.

Could this very well be the biggest comic book death since Superman?

[The ill Jedi]

Could this very well be the biggest comic book death since Superman?

Sure seems that way.

[Mookeylama]

Speaking of Joe Simon...Still, the character's death came as a blow to co-creator Joe Simon.

"We really need him now," said Simon, 93, who worked with artist Jack Kirby to devise Captain America as a foe for Adolf Hitler.

We really need him now is an understatement.

yep. i think they chose a lousy time to axe him (even tho he'll be back in time for the movie or shortly there after).

[Natrix]

The set was $50 shipped. Their feedback is excellent and they ship in "bomb proof packaging". :)

That freaking $10 each I posted yesterday really looks like a bargain now. If only I'd known. :monkey2

OUCH! You should have waited until next week...

From Newsarama

According to Marvel, overprints should hit stores next Wednesday.

Diamond has contacted retailers directly with the message:

In response to retailer and consumer demand for Marvel Comics’ landmark CAPTAIN AMERICA #25 (DEC062304D) — which has rapidly sold out in many locations — Diamond wishes to announce that a massive overprint of CAPTAIN AMERICA #25 will be available at its Memphis Star System hub on FRIDAY EVENING, MARCH 9!

PLEASE NOTE:
If you placed a back order for CAPTAIN AMERICA #25 by noon, EST, on Thursday, March 8, your backorder should fill without difficulty. However, you may convert your backorder to a direct ship reorder by contacting your Diamond Customer Service Representative. YOU MUST REQUEST THIS CONVERSION NO LATER THAN MONDAY, MARCH 12 AT 5:00 P.M. EST. If you do not convert your backorder by this deadline, your backorder will remain in force, and your quantities will arrive with your March 21 shipment.

If you have additional questions regarding the availability of the issue, please contact your Diamond Customer Service Representative.

[Fritz]

WTF!!!!! Freaking sold out everywhere!!!! :banghead

[Beren]

Wow, even on Colbert Report they just did a huge piece on his death, even did "The Word" on Cap. Should be on YouTube in the next few days... :D

"Pick a side, Wolverine" LOL

Beren

[screamingmetal]

I'd like the link too!

[Darth Waller]

They way this story was spoiled so quickly, I sure hope the same thing doesn't happen when the last Harry Potter novel comes out. I'm going to have to have an internet and media ban until I read that book because I will be seriously pissed if the media spoils which main character dies.

[RoboDad]

They way this story was spoiled so quickly, I sure hope the same thing doesn't happen when the last Harry Potter novel comes out. I'm going to have to have an internet and media ban until I read that book because I will be seriously pissed if the media spoils which main character dies.
:eek

A main character dies??!!??

Thanks for the spoiler warning!! :mad:












;) j/k

But, now you see how easy it can be to spoil something for someone who doesn't know, even when you assume it is common knowledge.

[Darth Waller]

But, now you see how easy it can be to spoil something for someone who doesn't know, even when you assume it is common knowledge.

Point taken. :D

But at least Rowling has gone on record with this information, so it wouldn't be totally out of left field for most of her readers. It makes me think that Marvel had a hand in getting this information out to the media because I can't see it being that big of a deal if a comic character gets bumped off.

[Darth Caedus]

Could this very well be the biggest comic book death since Superman?

Yea it is, but Marvel should be ashamed of themselves. First, they have Cap surrended to Iron Man without a fight like a little girl. THEN they have him just get sniped by some random sniper. They really must not like him to have him go out like that. At least have him fight somebody, or try to stop something important, but not like that. And I'm not even a fan of Cap, and I think it's really cheesy of Marvel.

BUT, on a lighter note. My brother thinks Cap just went undercover to go hunt Al-Qaida :chew :chew :lol :lol

[screamingmetal]

Thanks to Carbo-fation for the link! The story kind of mirrored the Kennedy assassination. I do wish he went out in a more heroic way, The way he died felt somewhat pedestrian for a Superhero.

[The Mike]

Yea it is, but Marvel should be ashamed of themselves. First, they have Cap surrended to Iron Man without a fight like a little girl. THEN they have him just get sniped by some random sniper.

Read the issue first. Saying he was killed by a sniper is a red herring and doesn't ruin any of the story....its actually profound the way he dies because it leaves questions unanswered and leaves a nice "I wonder what will happen to _________" formenting in their head. Without ruining too much for those whom haven't read the issue, Cap was betrayed, a hero brought down by one of the least likely of suspects in a bit Greek Tragedy....After actually reading and digesting the issue I'm actually not upset the way he was killed but only that he WAS killed. The way he went out was poetic a hero brought down by his trust (even though its not that clean and dry) and the look on his face and the last thought must have been one of pure and complete pain. That's all I'll say about it but I'd love to have this conversation out in the open....

[wookilar8]

If anyone cares, Captain America wasn't the only person shot recently. Released February 28th, in Amazing Spider-Man #538, #### ### gets shot through the heart. Contrary to Cap stepping in the way of the sniper's bullet, Peter does the complete opposite and steps aside to avoid the shot. :monkey2

[The Mike]

I just won a lot of Captain America 22-25 (both covers) for $41.00 shipped!! :rock

[TOE]

The death was lame. Cap has fought so many villains with crazy powers and here he is shot by a bullet. GNAY!!!!

[Khev]

The death was lame. Cap has fought so many villains with crazy powers and here he is shot by a bullet. GNAY!!!!
Cap treads a fine line between superhero and American Hero. As a superhero he could have died fighting some villain in a titanic showdown but I like the idea of it happening on his terms, after he willing gave up his shield, allowed himself to be manacled with superstrength binders, and paraded in front of his country. Having him taken out by a conspirator's gun puts him in such company as Abraham Lincoln, JFK, and Martin Luther King Jr. Very fitting.

[tomandshell]

COLBERT ON CAP'S DEATH (http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/?ml_video=83437)

[kodiak8658]

:eek

A main character dies??!!??

Thanks for the spoiler warning!! :mad:














;) j/k

But, now you see how easy it can be to spoil something for someone who doesn't know, even when you assume it is common knowledge.

I don't read Harry Potter but the media interviewed the writer and she said who dies in the final book. Thought it was common knowledge by now.

[kodiak8658]

I just got back from my comic shop (Phoenix Comics & Toys in Herndon,VA for those around the area) and they were sold out of Cap #25. This is a pretty big comic shop and carries toys,statues,shirts,and other collectibles.

They said they sold out around 2 pm and that they had a lot of people in there that they had never seen before.I've heard and seen that Cap's death has been all over the news,internet and papers.

Could this very well be the biggest comic book death since Superman?

I think alot of people bought this issue to flip. The market will be saturated with sellers soon and you'll see the price drop faster than Paris Hilton to her knees at a party. :rotfl

[the Doctor]

a guy at my lcs said marvel have kept stock of cap#25 sheet a and b
from the retailers..thus causing a shortage for us the consumers.

lcs should be getting restocked very soon..at least mine is:cool:

[Shai Hulud]

Cover to Hulk # 109......

i'll quote a guy from the comic forum:

''You can tell this story's not gonna end with a bunch of cops and firemen tackling Hulk and making him cry because he caused some property damage. ''

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/kingshaihulud/HULK109.jpg

[Fritz]

I guess Iron Man needs to stop worrying about super hero registration and get his ass in gear and design some new armor or he's in for a world of pain. :monkey5

[Bardoon]

Thor will come back to life and knock out Hulk! :monkey1

[carbo-fation]

Whatever happened to Thor? Can someone provide me with some info on his death or even a link where I can find out about it? Thanks>:)

[Shai Hulud]

Thor will come back to life and knock out Hulk! :monkey1



Not !!!!!



"I can say things will be very different for Hulk post-'WWH.' As for his power level, he’ll be more powerful than ever upon his return. He’ll be able to take just about anyone in the Marvel U. down."

-- Mark Paniccia,Marvel's Senior Editor.

[Bardoon]

Not !!!!!



"I can say things will be very different for Hulk post-'WWH.' As for his power level, he’ll be more powerful than ever upon his return. He’ll be able to take just about anyone in the Marvel U. down."

-- Mark Paniccia,Marvel's Senior Editor.

:D "just about anyone"

[The Mike]

:D "just about anyone"

Which indicates he'll be stopped and indicated they have someone in mind to stop him. This is Marvel though remember, it most likely won't be anyone in battle but someone who touches the humanity of Banner within the beast of the Hulk...

[DD_fan96]

Not !!!!!



"I can say things will be very different for Hulk post-'WWH.' As for his power level, he’ll be more powerful than ever upon his return. He’ll be able to take just about anyone in the Marvel U. down."

-- Mark Paniccia,Marvel's Senior Editor.


I think the Hulk will come back and team with Namor, And Thor. Namor's not happy about the assassination attempt, and Thors not gonna be happy that somebody (Tony & Reed) cloned him. The same two guys that shot the Hulk out into space to forever live on a planet by himself, but didn't forsee him getting sucked in a wormhole.

[screamingmetal]

I seem to remember someone posting an image of a Cap in Iron Man type armor recently, could that actually be Iron Man who takes up his cause after his death?

[Bardoon]

I seem to remember someone posting an image of a Cap in Iron Man type armor recently, could that actually be Iron Man who takes up his cause after his death?

That art is for "Civil War: The Initiative". I believe the image circulating around with Iron Man in red,white and blue armor colors is a Photoshop image as I've never seen any indication of a variant cover (I just picked up CW: The Initiative this past week). Though I could be wrong.


::SPOILERS::






Actually,in the comics Tony Stark is now the *new* Director of SHIELD.He even has a newly redesigned heli-carrier in red and yellow colors and has improved the defense agency with his own company's technology. He has begun a program called "The Initiative" which plans to put superhero teams in every state in the US and even one for Canada (Omega Flight).

[screamingmetal]

That art is for "Civil War: The Initiative". I believe the image circulating around with Iron Man in red,white and blue armor colors is a Photoshop image as I've never seen any indication of a variant cover (I just picked up CW: The Initiative this past week). Though I could be wrong.


::SPOILERS::






Actually,in the comics Tony Stark is now the *new* Director of SHIELD.He even has a newly redesigned heli-carrier in red and yellow colors and has improved the defense agency with his own company's technology. He has begun a program called "The Initiative" which plans to put superhero teams in every state in the US and even one for Canada (Omega Flight).
Ah, I see. I haven't been keeping up with the Marvel U at all. I can't say I like what they did to Iron Man. I know he's an arms developer for a long time but I never thought he was so complacent with aligning himself with the government's agenda.
If the Cap armor is just a hoax, it's a strangely timed one.

[Hightreker]

For everyone still looking for a copy, get em while you can:


http://www.midtowncomics.com/eshop/searchresult.asp?chkImage=Yes&chksOutofStock=Yes&skey=Death+of+Captain+America

[screamingmetal]

For everyone still looking for a copy, get em while you can:


http://www.midtowncomics.com/eshop/searchresult.asp?chkImage=Yes&chksOutofStock=Yes&skey=Death+of+Captain+America
Thanks for the reminder!
I received that email and knew to check after 12 pm today, just completely forgot about it.
I placed an order for the McGuinness cover, did they not offer the regular or did it already sellout?
I'll display it proudly alongside my mint in bag death of Superman comic. :lol

[Hightreker]

The regular sold out, I ordered one at 9 PM, they sold out pretty quickly after that.

[screamingmetal]

The regular sold out, I ordered one at 9 PM, they sold out pretty quickly after that.
Okay, Thanks. I'm just glad I got an issue. I would've thought the variant cover would be more sought after. :dunno

[wookilar8]

"I can say things will be very different for Hulk post-'WWH.' As for his power level, he’ll be more powerful than ever upon his return. He’ll be able to take just about anyone in the Marvel U. down."

-- Mark Paniccia,Marvel's Senior Editor.
The strongest guy in the Marvel U, after the Hulk, is The Sentry. These two guys have never faced off against each other. Something tells me that's about to change.

[Mookeylama]

The regular sold out, I ordered one at 9 PM, they sold out pretty quickly after that.

http://www.midtowncomics.com/eshop/searchresult.asp?chkImage=Yes&chksOutofStock=Yes&skey=Death+of+Captain+America

they have it back up for sale, shipping out Thursday. anyone know if these from Midtown are still 1st prints?

[screamingmetal]

http://www.midtowncomics.com/eshop/searchresult.asp?chkImage=Yes&chksOutofStock=Yes&skey=Death+of+Captain+America

they have it back up for sale, shipping out Thursday. anyone know if these from Midtown are still 1st prints?
Yes these are the first run prints. It says so on the right side of their home page:
http://www.midtowncomics.com/default.asp?crypt=HPcog%253F%2528NPcog%253F%2528Wu gtKF%253F%253A69336788%2528WutPcog%253F%2528WutV%2 57Brg%253F%2528WutNgxgn%253F
Apparently, Marvel held back some of the first runs' books. I think deliberately knowing the buzz this would generate.
I have the variant cover on order, so that's enough for me.

[Mookeylama]

darn. only 1 copy per customer. still great buy.

[Bardoon]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=104938

The NEW Captain America!!!!!!

Guess whose under the mask? :D

[Shai Hulud]

America's icon just became more violent.....

[carbo-fation]

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=104938

The NEW Captain America!!!!!!

Guess whose under the mask? :D
Nice! I figured that would happen!

[screamingmetal]

The way they make it sound, it isn't confirmed, just a possibility he might take over the mantle. This reminds me of the Death of Superman gimmick all over again. :lol

[The Mike]

Ugh. Captain Punisherica's costume is the dumbest thing I've seen in a while. It'd have been more interesting if they just had Frank don the actual costume and confuse the public at the new heights of violence that Cap is willing to go to. Cap is rolling over in his grave.

[Darth Waller]

I think this is just Marvel trying to throw out some misinformation. At least I hope so.

[TOE]

You guys have to admit though that this looks really cool :cool:

http://www.newsarama.com/movies/Hellboy/Iron/889new_storyimage3793928_full.jpg

[screamingmetal]

You guys have to admit though that this looks really cool :cool:

http://www.newsarama.com/movies/Hellboy/Iron/889new_storyimage3793928_full.jpg
I like most of the design. I'm a fan of the whole GI Joe style costume design in comics, but those pockets should blend in more with the costume and not be so random. They clutter up the design.
But I think the bullets as the teeth of the scull emblem is a great idea, they should use that on the regular Punisher costume.

[TOE]

anyone have read Fallen son?

[PosterBoyKelly]

anyone have read Fallen son?


I've read the series, I loved it. Loeb is always good though.

[Darth Rage]

You guys have to admit though that this looks really cool :cool:

http://www.newsarama.com/movies/Hellboy/Iron/889new_storyimage3793928_full.jpg

Actually I think it looks kind of silly, but that's just me. :D

[Monk]

Actually I think it looks kind of silly, but that's just me. :D

Not just you, mate. :lol