View Full Version : Marvel vs. DC
Shai Hulud
02-21-2007, 12:56 PM
LETS HAVE ANOTHER WAR.....
WHO'S YOUR FAVORITE BRAND AND WHY.....
FOR ME....MARVEL !!!
FOR ONE PARTICULAR REASON:
HULK SMASH !!!!
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/kingshaihulud/oldsuphusf2.jpg
Agent0028
02-21-2007, 01:02 PM
Marvel for me too. The only DC person I like is Batman. Superman is just too good for my tastes. Other than that I don't even know any of the others. Part fo the reason I like Marvel more could also be that when I was little we had the Uncanny X-Men cartoons and then the Spiderman Cartoons. Of course there was Batman too, and I loved that, but the superman cartoon didn't come along until later and I never really cared for it.
customizerwannabe
02-21-2007, 01:04 PM
Growing up in the 70's there was no decision. Marvel ruled and DC was for puzzies. DC characters were rated G- for no possible chance of seeing any real violence. Even though the books may have changed, my allegiance hasn't. Make Mine Marvel!http://www.websmileys.com/sm/cool/049.gif
Shai Hulud
02-21-2007, 01:08 PM
I'VE JUST ADD A POLL:
http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16863
King Darkness
02-21-2007, 01:10 PM
Marvel hands down. IMO Marvel has always had a much more human factor to its characters. I really dont like anyone from DC other than Batman, and to be honest I think Batman should have been in the Marvel Universe anyway.
DC has always been a poor mans Marvel to me, aside from the Bat, DC offers me nothing.
wofford29
02-21-2007, 01:10 PM
DC all the way. BATMAN!!!!
hairlesswookiee
02-21-2007, 01:12 PM
DC has always been a poor mans Marvel to me, aside from the Bat, DC offers me nothing.
i agree... i've always read Marvel when i was a kid and for some reason most of the DC characters seemed like complete ripoffs of Marvels characters.
The Mike
02-21-2007, 01:14 PM
I bounce back and forth between the two but if I had to choose only one I'd have to say Marvel. There is just more at Marvel that I like than over at DC....
King Darkness
02-21-2007, 01:16 PM
Lets face facts, if DC didnt have Batman and Superman, there would be NO DC. Peroid. Its a comapny built on 2 characters, 2 freakin characters!
Although they are to of the most iconic fictional characters in American pop culture, its hard to say that DC as a whole is superior to Marvel.
Batty
02-21-2007, 01:19 PM
I see this thread getting ugly! :lol
I give DC the edge simply because of Batman. But I do like a lot of Marvel characters too.
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/954/batmanleebs7.png (http://imageshack.us)
Shai Hulud
02-21-2007, 01:20 PM
BRING IT DC !!!!
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/1/11/Marvel-character-composit.jpg
wofford29
02-21-2007, 01:20 PM
Yeah, but you can't say that King, because DC does have Batman and Superman, and the only character Marvel has anywhere close in popularity in pop culture is Spiderman.
Seth Gecko
02-21-2007, 01:23 PM
Marvel is number 1 for a resaon.
Marvel!:cool:
Darth Waller
02-21-2007, 01:23 PM
http://www.teako170.com/mmmsbutton2.jpeg
BDboystoys
02-21-2007, 01:23 PM
DC for me too. Batman is the main reason, but there are numerous others. All the fantastic Vertigo comics, Batman, Superman, Watchmen. The brilliant writers DC have had,the complex and intriguing characters....
Its no competition for me.
I do like some Marvel though, such as Runaways and Astonishing Xmen.
http://www.tomheroes.com/images/COMIC%20captain%20america%20100.jpg
http://www.vfcomics.com/scans/WOLVV2_1.jpg
http://www.rjsonline.net/~cehicks/rah27.jpg
Definitely Marvel.
Boba Fett
02-21-2007, 01:52 PM
BRING IT DC !!!!
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/1/11/Marvel-character-composit.jpg
Marvel for me too!
I just hope SS makes a PF for each and every one of those characters in that pic. :chew
Bodie The Cursed
02-21-2007, 01:55 PM
Marvel only.. DC sucks ass.
Agent0028
02-21-2007, 01:57 PM
You must have alot of shelf space pallie...
Darth Waller
02-21-2007, 02:01 PM
You must have alot of shelf space pallie...
And money. :lol
The ill Jedi
02-21-2007, 02:08 PM
DC doesn't want any part of this...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/illJedi26/illjedidesktop.jpg
I've been a Marvel fan since I can remember, I even have a picture of myself when I was 5 wearing Spider-Man underoos.
Make Mine Marvel!
'Nuff Said!
Shai Hulud
02-21-2007, 02:16 PM
DC doesn't want any part of this...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/illJedi26/illjedidesktop.jpg
or that.....
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/kingshaihulud/PP30201-1.jpg
wofford29
02-21-2007, 02:17 PM
Marvel can't hang...
http://i15.tinypic.com/44pynnp.jpg
SolidLiquidFox
02-21-2007, 02:40 PM
If you were to match up character for character in a fight, DC would beat Marvel. Simply because Superman can't never lose because he is Superman and Batman is so good he also can't never lose. Add the Flash, GL, Wonder Woman and an insane amount of superheroes from that picture above and it would be no match. The Justice League is molded after the pantheon of the gods.
That said, Marvel has the more human characters and they make for some interesting reading. They certainly have the "everyman" aspect down and that's perhaps the reason why their properties are a little easier to bring to the big screen.
I tell you this: before Civil War, Marvel had completely lost touch with the human aspect of it's characters. The company kept relaunching books every other year (long running comics like Spidey) and gave up on their characters by creating the Ultimate Universe. People love Marvel now but those of us that have been reading comics for a while can't deny the appeal of DC.
I like Marvel
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h15/sideshowpics/x-men_wallpaper.jpg
But DC has Batman and Superman:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h15/sideshowpics/Superman_Batman_III.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h15/sideshowpics/McGuinness_Worlds_Finest.jpg
The ill Jedi
02-21-2007, 02:49 PM
If you were to match up character for character in a fight, DC would beat Marvel. Simply because Superman can't never lose...
One word: KRYPTONITE.
...Batman is so good he also can't never lose. Add the Flash, GL, Wonder Woman and an insane amount of superheroes from that picture above and it would be no match. The Justice League is molded after the pantheon of the gods...
I love Batman, but Captain America would would whoop his A$$, or for that matter Spider-Man or Daredevil.
As for all those other 'Gods', the HULK would lay them all to waste.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/illJedi26/Heroes.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h15/sideshowpics/superchristmas.jpg
One word: KRYPTONITE.
:monkey1 :monkey1 :monkey1
Shai Hulud
02-21-2007, 02:54 PM
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h15/sideshowpics/superchristmas.jpg
omg..so gay....
at least batman wants no part of this....
omg..so gay....
at least batman wants no part of this....
:lol :rotfl
I would love to add that I LOVE THE WOMEN OF DC :)
wofford29
02-21-2007, 02:58 PM
One word: KRYPTONITE.
I love Batman, but Captain America would would whoop his A$$, or for that matter Spider-Man or Daredevil.
As for all those other 'Gods', the HULK would lay them all to waste.
Supergirl is just as strong as Superman and kryptonite can't defeat her. Batman would absolutely destroy Captain America. As for the Hulk, well, it's already been written. Batman vs. Hulk and guess who won? Batman! In fact the Joker owned the Hulk and then Batman kicked his ass when he was under the Joker's control. He's way to smart and would always find away to beat the ape.
DC owns! The truth hurts.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/illJedi26/Heroes.jpg
sorry to interrupt:
:rock :rock :rock:rock:rock
Yeah Boiy!!!!! That is the Dale Keown Hulk bro!!!! Got that statue!!! :rock
NOW BACK TO TOPIC:
The ill Jedi
02-21-2007, 03:02 PM
Supergirl and Joker = Lame :rotfl :lol
wofford29
02-21-2007, 03:05 PM
Supergirl and Joker = Lame :rotfl :lol
Truth hurts doesn't it, a girl would own the entire Marvel universe, ouch! oh and The Joker owned the Hulk, just thought I'd mention that again.
SolidLiquidFox
02-21-2007, 03:17 PM
Batman always has a plan. ALWAYS. He is Batman. Everyone on the Justice League looks to this guy with no powers for strategic guidance. If they get out of line he has ways to bring every single one of them down. He is sneaky and he will play dirty if necessary. Marvel is trying to make Captain America more like that with Civil War and the Ultimates version.
Batman rules.
Superman will always be the icon. Any story with Superman on it becomes a Superman story. He will always triumph because that is the nature of his character. Hulk is the mightiest human being on the planet but he is still only human. Superman is an alien that stores solar energy and has all the worth mentioning super powers other heroes have. Supes wins over the gamma radiated Hulk. DC Vs Marvel had people voting Supes would win and he won.
customizerwannabe
02-21-2007, 03:21 PM
All Superman would have to do is fly the Hulk to the moon. Take him...what...5 minutes? Leave him there and pick up his oxygen deprived corpse in the morning. Even so...marvel still rules.
Superman vs. Doomsday ..... discuss :monkey1
Agent0028
02-21-2007, 03:25 PM
All this talk about why superman would always win etc just goes for why I've never really cared for him. I do however agree that Batman could anyone's @$$.
oh....better yet....Superman vs. Thor.....discuss
SolidLiquidFox
02-21-2007, 03:26 PM
Superman vs. Doomsday ..... discuss :monkey1
Marketing stunt. Also see Batman's broken back and Green Lantern going cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
wofford29
02-21-2007, 03:27 PM
Superman vs. Doomsday ..... discuss :monkey1
major money making bookseller.
SolidLiquidFox
02-21-2007, 03:30 PM
oh....better yet....Superman vs. Thor.....discuss
Thor should be as highly regarded as Superman but somehow he isn't. Joe AverageGuy may recognize Thor but not necessarily know who he is or what his deal is. "Asgardian? a hammer? wings on his helmet??? who is this guy?"
If anything, I always found Captain Marvel Vs Superman more interesting.
Strenght-wise...will Thor be able to beat Superman?
wofford29
02-21-2007, 03:41 PM
Strenght-wise...will Thor be able to beat Superman?
not unless he has kryptonite in his bones
Shai Hulud
02-21-2007, 03:48 PM
bahhhhhh..superman one big fag....we got the Senty now....who's way more complex as a character than supes.
Bardoon
02-21-2007, 04:22 PM
oh....better yet....Superman vs. Thor.....discuss
I remember Wizard a few years back had a big "Marvel vs. DC" showdown and they picked THOR as the winner for that fight.
When it came down to it...it was all in the name:
SuperMAN
Thor, GOD of Thunder
It's a close call but I may have to give Thor the edge.He is a god afterall and besides that he can utilize the power of magic (mainly lightning) through his uru hammer Mjolnir. Magic is one of Superman's main weaknesses.
Thor is also a born and bred warrior unlike Supes...Thor was born fighting and always has, you hardly ever see the guy settle down for anything unless he's disguised as his human alterego.
Supes though I think is a little smarter than Thor, and would probably deduce quickly that the hammer is the main component to Thor's abilities.Still, in a knock-down brawl it'd be close.
BTW - MAKE MINE MARVEL!
Most DC characters I think need some serious overhaul, a lot look like they're trapped in the 60's and 70's with their outfits and names!
SolidLiquidFox
02-21-2007, 04:23 PM
bahhhhhh..superman one big fag....we got the Senty now....who's way more complex as a character than supes.
:lol
He's so cool that he is playing a very pivotal role in Civil War.
(Sentry=Thor Lite)
:rolleyes:
The ill Jedi
02-21-2007, 04:28 PM
MARVEL>DC
Marvel - 23
DC - 6
http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16863
Bardoon
02-21-2007, 04:31 PM
bahhhhhh..superman one big fag....we got the Senty now....who's way more complex as a character than supes.
I like Sentry too, I think he's very interesting and I'm excited to see more of him in MIGHTY AVENGERS!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Mightyavengers.jpg
SolidLiquidFox
02-21-2007, 04:36 PM
MARVEL>DC
Marvel - 23
DC - 6
http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16863
...in the Sideshow Marvel forums. :rolleyes:
The ill Jedi
02-21-2007, 06:58 PM
...in the Sideshow Marvel forums. :rolleyes:
That's right, 'cause we're here and not doing the poll anywhere else. Are you gonna go out and get a petition signed by people that like DC more than Marvel? I don't think so. :rolleyes:
King Darkness
02-21-2007, 07:11 PM
Strenght-wise...will Thor be able to beat Superman?
I dont know about Thor, but if you could get the Hulk pissed enough he could rip Supes right in half!
SolidLiquidFox
02-21-2007, 07:27 PM
That's right, 'cause we're here and not doing the poll anywhere else. Are you gonna go out and get a petition signed by people that like DC more than Marvel? I don't think so. :rolleyes:
All I am saying is that the response is going to be overwhelmingly Marvel biased. Hence the poll is not proving anything. Not to mention DC Direct sucks 80% of the time and Marvel has their license out to a lot of different and talented artists out there. Here people may tend to vote more with their love for the statues rather than the "comics/character" in mind.
I voted Marvel but I can't bash DC like so many others like to do. I love a lot of their characters. :cool:
wofford29
02-21-2007, 07:32 PM
Look, I admit, there is nothing spectacular about the character of Superman, but 100% without a doubt, there is absolutely no one that would ever defeat Superman. He is INVINSIBLE. That's just the way the character was written. Hell, he even died and came back life. NO ONE can beat him for good.
Batty
02-21-2007, 07:34 PM
You guys really are geeks! :monkey1
Shai Hulud
02-21-2007, 07:35 PM
Look, I admit, there is nothing spectacular about the character of Superman, but 100% without a doubt, there is absolutely no one that would ever defeat Superman. He is INVINSIBLE. That's just the way the character was written. Hell, he even died and came back life. NO ONE can beat him for good.
:google :google :google :lol
The ill Jedi
02-21-2007, 07:42 PM
I voted Marvel but I can't bash DC like so many others like to do. I love a lot of their characters. :cool:
I like Bats and Supes too, but my heart and soul belongs to Marvel.
Truce!! :peace
The ill Jedi
02-21-2007, 07:43 PM
You guys really are geeks! :monkey1
Isn't that why we're all here?! :D
Batty
02-21-2007, 08:02 PM
Isn't that why we're all here?! :D
Yeah, but you'll never hear me argue over which super-hero can win in a fight. It all seems rather pointless. But I guess that's the height of geek-dom. ;)
Definately Marvel.
DC really needs to update their heroes costumes.
Juggernaut would probably be able to take Sups down alone. And to the person who said Superman can fly into Space and drop the Hulk of on the moon till he dies from lack of oxygen, the Hulk can survive in Space. The more Sups pisses him off, the more indestructible he gets. And last time I checked, Sups was weakened when exposed to Kryptonite.
Batman may have plans and gadgets on his side, but he's still a mortal, so yes, he CAN be killed. I'm thinking Wolvie would be the one to take him down, considering he's been blown up by a guy FAR more powerful than Bats, and has survived.
I don't really know any other DC Superheroes besides those two, so I can't really judge the others...
Darklord Dave
02-21-2007, 08:29 PM
DC deals in icons that go back millenia and are embedded in the zeitgeist. These archetypes will survive many incarnations, and last many millenia more.
Marvel deals in angst-ridden cry babies. They are but a passing phase.
But Dr. Strange is cool.
The ill Jedi
02-21-2007, 08:36 PM
Marvel deals in angst-ridden cry babies. They are but a passing phase.
Wow, I expected much better from you. I'm truly disappointed.
Batty
02-21-2007, 08:39 PM
DC deals in icons that go back millenia and are embedded in the zeitgeist. These archetypes will survive many incarnations, and last many millenia more.
Marvel deals in angst-ridden cry babies. They are but a passing phase.
But Dr. Strange is cool.
Okay, but who would win in a fight? :lol
wofford29
02-21-2007, 08:46 PM
Okay, but who would win in a fight? :lol
DC DC DC DC
Bardoon
02-21-2007, 09:07 PM
The funny thing though is whenever you have a "Batman vs. ___someone___" topic, most everyone says that Batman would win because of his gadgets. :lol
Agent0028
02-21-2007, 09:10 PM
Hell, he even died and came back life. NO ONE can beat him for good.
Please, Jean Grey had died and come back so many times she has a corner booth in the afterlife.
From what I'm hearing it kinda sounds like people see DC as the mythos like Dave said about archetypes and someone else compared them to the pantheon of gods; and Marvel as the real life heroes like your Julius Caeser, Alexander the Great, etc.
carbo-fation
02-21-2007, 10:06 PM
I like mythology, therefore.......:D
rabidwolverine21
02-21-2007, 10:16 PM
MARVEL ALL THE FREAKING WAY.
DC comic characters are at alot of times way to 1 deminsional, batman being the only true exception, and you say agnst crybabies well i guess batman would go under that to, or any character that truely is confilicted between his double life and struggles and occasionaly wines about how hard it is, i love the marvel emotion and the grit. Im a huge batman fan, but as a all together company i got to give it up to marvel. The punisher, wolverine, hulk what else could you need.
BDboystoys
02-22-2007, 01:01 AM
Ok seriously this is so ridiculous. Were in a marvel section of the forum, so its blooming obvious whose going to win. Besides that all this is turning into is a 'mine bigger than yours' contest with posts stating, DC sucks. There have been some very interesting posts but on a whole, its really one sided. This post was created to stir trouble not disscussion...Shai:lol
"Lets get all the Marvel fans together and beat up the DC fans!"
But anyway, my opinion. DC for me. While Marvel have alot more going on atm, the quality just does compare to the work DC has done of the years. Batman is THE best comic book character ever written, the complexity of the character, the dark and human nature to Gotham and the villains that delves in the deep and dark nature of the human psyche, Rather than just a huge array of baddies with huge crazy powers, the relationships and dynamics between the characters are so well formed. Thats why the dynamic between Batman and the Joker is so beautiful and poetic. The mythology DC uses if brilliant too. Far more believable and compelling in my opinion
Also just look at what all the greatest comic book writers choose to write for, DC & Vertigo. Most of the greatest comics ever created are DC collaborations.
Kingdom Come, Watchmen, Sandman, Dark Knight Returns, Batman: Year One, The Long Halloween, Blankets, The Killing Joke, V for Vendetta, New Frontier, Hush, We3, It’s a Bird, Superman for All Seasons, Arkham Asylum, When in Rome, Fables, Black and White, Swamp Thing, Crisis of Infinite Earths, Miracleman, The Invisibles, Y: The Last Man to name a afew.
But really when you think of it, people who love a certain comics company love it because they've read more of those comics, or grew up with those characters all their life. There really is no definitive answer as to who is better. Even if its looked at rationally, you cant pick it. Everyone likes things for different reasons and tastes. Just how it goes.
Darklord Dave
02-22-2007, 01:14 AM
I was about to say it's an "age" thing, but BD is probably 25years younger than me and he makes some fantastic points about DC that I have to agree with.
I grew up with both - I bought DC and Marvel comics with the $3.00 I earned from my paper route (could get 12 comics with that). But Superman, Batman and the Justice League clicked with me in ways that Spiderman, Hulk and the Avengers didn't.
Perhaps I was too young to understand the girlfriend problems of Peter Parker and the more simplisitc moralism of Superman was more comprehensible to my infantile mind.
But now that I only read trades and see large story arcs all at once it seems that currently DC is the one that is more sophisticated. House of M was unbearable, whereas Infinite Crisis raised questions of evil vs. good and larger philosophical questions.
And they share writers between the companies so it's not just the writing that makes the difference, but the history of the characters. Does "Marvels" really compare to "Kingdom Come"? Sure the 2nd Kingdom thingie was pretty contrived and boring in the same way as Earth X was boring. But does Marvel have anything that compares to Watchmen? The Dark Knight Returns? Sandman? New Frontier? If they do please point me the way - I'd love to discover new greatness.
Domer
02-22-2007, 01:19 AM
Most of the DC Characters are to smooth and perfect for my taste. I like the edges and problems of the Marvel characters.
Another thing for me is, that the DC guys are too strong. Its ridicolous how strong and mighty they are. Makes it all boring to me. The only interesting guy is Batman. The rest is b0ring.
woodsy
02-22-2007, 07:26 AM
Marvel definitely has the greater selection of interesting heroes to choose from so if that were my criteria for choosing it would definitely be them. If my choice were based on a single character it would most definitely be DC and Batman, hands down.
venakin skywalker
02-22-2007, 08:10 AM
you guys forgot about the watchmen.... it's still consider DC... :rotfl
Bullseye
02-22-2007, 09:53 AM
My favourite male super hero is Spider-man but my favourite female is Wonder Woman. In general i do prefer Marvel though.
Bodie The Cursed
02-22-2007, 10:09 AM
But does Marvel have anything that compares to Watchmen? The Dark Knight Returns? Sandman? New Frontier? If they do please point me the way - I'd love to discover new greatness.
Im more of a vintage Marvel guy.. But the Civil War story line is pretty good as is the Planet Hulk series.
Darth Loki
02-22-2007, 10:12 AM
BRING IT DC !!!!
http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/1/11/Marvel-character-composit.jpg
DC has my favorite in Superman, but this picture says it all.
ffl1940
02-22-2007, 12:16 PM
Grew up with DC (and that probably determines what someone likes today 90% of the time).
Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Green Lantern(s), Flash, Martian Manhunter, yeah, there'd be a lot o' whoop-ass laid down on some Marvel folks.
Fritz
02-22-2007, 12:39 PM
I'm not a big comic book reader. Until Civil War this past year I hadn't read a comic book since I was a kid.
Marvel is better to me simply because I like the characters themselves better. Nothing to do with depth of character, integrity or background. The characters themselves visually are just cooler.
As a kid I read Spiderman, Superman and Batman comics. I watched the Batman and Superman TV shows as well as the Spiderman cartoon. Spiderman was always my favorite character. I don't know why and there's no magic reason I can think of. I just liked the character and the villains. I also watched the Justice League and enjoyed it but the Wonder Twins just threw the whole thing off for me. So in reality since I watched more DC than Marvel as a kid you'd think I'd like that series better. But I don't.
hummer
02-22-2007, 02:16 PM
Honestly guys, you can't go wrong with either side! The thing I hate about DC is that with Supes, Bat, and the Flash, they should give the license to Sideshow to produce premium format figures like Marvel. I mean they have these iconic heroes and yet the statues that I have seen thus far are horrendous!! I know Sideshow would give these icons there just due if they were allowed to sculpt them. How about a poll or petition to DC to give Sideshow the license to do these heroes??:D
SolidLiquidFox
02-22-2007, 03:05 PM
Honestly guys, you can't go wrong with either side! The thing I hate about DC is that with Supes, Bat, and the Flash, they should give the license to Sideshow to produce premium format figures like Marvel. I mean they have these iconic heroes and yet the statues that I have seen thus far are horrendous!! I know Sideshow would give these icons there just due if they were allowed to sculpt them. How about a poll or petition to DC to give Sideshow the license to do these heroes??:D
DC believes that the sun rises and sets over at DC Direct since that's their inhouse operation. So far most of their stuff is mediocre or "alright". I hope that Andy and Ray can bring some much needed creativity. That's what's lacking. It does make you appreciate the Gore Group and Sideshow even more when you see the Marvel stuff we get here.
Make mine Marvel.
Batman is a great character and by far DCs best. Batman also has some of the greatest villians in all of comics. But it pretty much end there. Though I do love the Donner Superman films.
Marvel is were it's at for me. Just by far the better Universe.
And all this talk about Batman kicking everyones butt. Well IMO that just would not happen. Batman would not stand a chance against marvel's friendliest character Spider-man. Spidy is no fool and he has the super human abilities. Batman would not stand a chance.
Oh and Wolverine and Hulk would whip his butt also :)
Bonehead15
02-23-2007, 03:22 PM
And all this talk about Batman kicking everyones butt. Well IMO that just would not happen. Batman would not stand a chance against marvel's friendliest character Spider-man. Spidy is no fool and he has the super human abilities. Batman would not stand a chance.
Oh and Wolverine and Hulk would whip his butt also :)
I'm by no means a "DC" guy in fact I like Marvel more than DC but Batman would beat all of those guys easy.
Hulk would of course cause the most trouble for Bats but Batman has beaten practicly everybody he's ever faced including powerhouses like the Hulk.
Batman doesn't beat you with his physical abilities but with his superior intellect. Anybody remember "The Tower of Babel" storyline? He has files on everyone and knows everybody's weaknesses.
If Batman fought Wolverine, Spidey, or Hulk in a boxing match than sure they'd win but if it's just a regular "comic book battle" than Batman would hands down. If he battled the "smart" Hulk he might be in trouble. Banner is a genius so he'd be just as ready for Batman as Bruce would be for him.
Just cause you have "super-human" abilities don't mean crap to Batman. That only means that the victory is much sweeter when he wins. :cool:
customizerwannabe
02-23-2007, 03:27 PM
I cpnsider Batman to be an honorary marvel character!:D
Bardoon
02-23-2007, 04:14 PM
I'm by no means a "DC" guy in fact I like Marvel more than DC but Batman would beat all of those guys easy.
Hulk would of course cause the most trouble for Bats but Batman has beaten practicly everybody he's ever faced including powerhouses like the Hulk.
Batman doesn't beat you with his physical abilities but with his superior intellect. Anybody remember "The Tower of Babel" storyline? He has files on everyone and knows everybody's weaknesses.
If Batman fought Wolverine, Spidey, or Hulk in a boxing match than sure they'd win but if it's just a regular "comic book battle" than Batman would hands down. If he battled the "smart" Hulk he might be in trouble. Banner is a genius so he'd be just as ready for Batman as Bruce would be for him.
Just cause you have "super-human" abilities don't mean crap to Batman. That only means that the victory is much sweeter when he wins. :cool:
OMG I knew a "Batman would use his smarts and his gadgets" excuse would come up for a Batman vs. Anyone comment.
WOULD BATMAN USE HIS GADGETS AGAINST GALACTUS TOO!? :monkey1
Bardoon
02-23-2007, 04:18 PM
Honestly guys, you can't go wrong with either side! The thing I hate about DC is that with Supes, Bat, and the Flash, they should give the license to Sideshow to produce premium format figures like Marvel. I mean they have these iconic heroes and yet the statues that I have seen thus far are horrendous!! I know Sideshow would give these icons there just due if they were allowed to sculpt them. How about a poll or petition to DC to give Sideshow the license to do these heroes??:D
Personally,I think that part of Sideshow's contract to produce Marvel characters PROHIBITS them from doing anything with DC characters and possibly even other comic company characters as well. Even as far as selling other company's products of DC!
Why do you think that we don't even see any DC characters that Hot Toys and Medicom have made up for sale here?Those would be hot sales for sure!
Even the Medicom Spawn wasn't up for pre-order.
Agent0028
02-23-2007, 04:53 PM
I cpnsider Batman to be an honorary marvel character!:D
:lol I'm sure the DC fans love that. I'm more or less the same, I finally broke down and ordered the 1/4 Batman from DC direct and I have every intention of putting him with Iron Man, Cap, Spidey, and Wolvie.
SolidLiquidFox
02-23-2007, 04:57 PM
They should let Andy and Ray work their magic over at DC Direct. I mean REALLY let them do their thing with stuff not Batman or Superman related.
venakin skywalker
02-23-2007, 05:34 PM
I also posted this on the pole...
DC is just so much better IMHO, these superheroes define that man(or metahuman) can do GOOD...
for ****s sake, theres already so much trouble and evil in the world, you don't need it in your comic books.... *ahem* marvel... :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :lol
Bonehead15
02-23-2007, 05:50 PM
WOULD BATMAN USE HIS GADGETS AGAINST GALACTUS TOO!? :monkey1
...sure if he had the Ultimate Nulifier as one of his gadgets. :D :D :D
OF COURSE HE COULDN'T. WHAT ARE YOU AN IDIOT?? :rolleyes:
That's like saying Spider-Man could beat Eternity or any of the other cosmic beings with his silly webs. :monkey1 :monkey1
DC deals in icons that go back millenia and are embedded in the zeitgeist. These archetypes will survive many incarnations, and last many millenia more.
Marvel deals in angst-ridden cry babies. They are but a passing phase.
But Dr. Strange is cool.
Nothing worse then a comic book geek fight I say, but I'd have to agree with DD there, been reading comics for almost 30 years and as a kid DC comics resonated with me much more then Marvel ever did and while I read both companies I'd be hard pressed to find a Marvel Comic or Trade I'd put in the same category with the classics of DC.
Evan
P.S Thor, Silver Surfer and Daredevil are pretty cool :)
wookilar8
02-23-2007, 06:22 PM
Batman is THE best comic book character ever written......
Batman is good, actually he's the best hero DC has going for them. He is a very close number 2. Superman comics for the last ten years or so have been awful, just poorly written stories. As far as comicdom's number 1 hero - Spider-Man edges out Batman. While Spidey has been around half as long as Batman, his history is much richer and beautifully complex. If it comes down to the rogues then I believe it's a tie between Spidey & Batman.
Now give me my No-Prize, biotch! :D
The ill Jedi
02-23-2007, 06:35 PM
...comicdom's number 1 hero - Spider-Man edges out Batman. While Spidey has been around half as long as Batman, his history is much richer and beautifully complex...
Word! :rock
That was beatifully put Wookilar!
P.S. I do have a special place in my heart for Batman though, deep down inside I wish he was a Marvel character. :D
Shai Hulud
02-23-2007, 06:52 PM
MARVELS CHARACTERS ARE SO BEAUTIFUL...:monkey2
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/kingshaihulud/HULK082_COV.jpg
The ill Jedi
02-23-2007, 07:01 PM
MARVELS CHARACTERS ARE SO BEAUTIFUL...:monkey2
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d139/kingshaihulud/HULK082_COV.jpg
Hulk is gonna tear that up!! :naughty
venakin skywalker
02-23-2007, 07:19 PM
DC has better cartoons, bar none.
the only REAL hits from Marvel movies are the spiderman and x-men franchises.
Darklord Dave
02-23-2007, 08:32 PM
I would argue that Batman (when written well) is a far more complex, damaged and interesting character than Spider-man could ever be. Spidey hasn't really ever outgrown his teen angst.
I really love the Hush series. Dark and beautiful :monkey2
venakin skywalker
02-23-2007, 08:40 PM
I would argue that Batman (when written well) is a far more complex, damaged and interesting character than Spider-man could ever be. Spidey hasn't really ever outgrown his teen angst.
I'm a teen myself, spiderman is just a pansy.. :monkey1 :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl
The Long Halloween, best of the bunch, then comes DKR... I also like hush.
BDboystoys
02-23-2007, 08:47 PM
Cant forget Year One, The Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum.:D
venakin skywalker
02-23-2007, 08:51 PM
the killing joke by alan moore was one of my all time favorites... it made a big impact of the comic continuity... look at batgirl now.. shes not even batgirl!!
and arkham asylum was just sick. :rock, I don't want to spoil the ending.. but it is quite shocking... Bat... omen...
http://notthebeastmaster.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/arkham_asylum_1.jpg
The ill Jedi
02-23-2007, 08:53 PM
I would argue that Batman (when written well) is a far more complex, damaged and interesting character than Spider-man could ever be. Spidey hasn't really ever outgrown his teen angst.
You try losing your mother, father and uncle all at a very young age and see how well you'd deal with it. I love how you guys have convinced yourselves that Batman/Bruce is not 'angst ridden'. Gimme a break. :rolleyes:
I'm a teen myself, spiderman is just a pansy...
Whatever you say Buttercup.
Agent0028
02-23-2007, 09:39 PM
Thought ya'll DC fans might like to know that this thread has convinced me to read a few batman comics (or maybe ya'll don't care either way :lol). Since I'm just dabbling in comics a little, and I've always liked Batman and you guys praise the stories so much, I figure why not. I'm not reading superman though. He still annoys me.
BDboystoys
02-23-2007, 09:47 PM
Thought ya'll DC fans might like to know that this thread has convinced me to read a few batman comics (or maybe ya'll don't care either way :lol). Since I'm just dabbling in comics a little, and I've always liked Batman and you guys praise the stories so much, I figure why not. I'm not reading superman though. He still annoys me.
Wow great to hear, really. I really hope you love them. I definitely urge you read the ones mentioned. My first Batman comic was actually The Long Halloween. I'd read comics here and there, but I consider that to be the comic that kick started my real passion for the industry.
For Batman, I recommend:
Batman: Year One, Dark Knight Returns, The Long Halloween, The Killing Joke, Hush, Arkham Asylum and Batman: Black and White to begin with.
Other DC masterpieces:
Kingdom Come, Watchmen, Sandman, V for Vendetta, New Frontier, We3, Fables, Swamp Thing...
Unfortunately Superman, though he's the most iconic hero ever, the same cant be said for the quality of comics that produced. It's partly because of the way in which he was created, that it doesn't lend much for a writer to explore the character. However I definitely recommend these two:
It's a Bird, Superman for All Seasons. Kingdom Come is also very heavily a Superman story, and brilliant too
venakin skywalker
02-23-2007, 09:56 PM
Wow great to hear, really. I really hope you love them. I definitely urge you read the ones mentioned. My first Batman comic was actually The Long Halloween. I'd read comics here and there, but I consider that to be the comic that kick started my real passion for the industry.
For Batman, I recommend:
Batman: Year One, Dark Knight Returns, The Long Halloween, The Killing Joke, Hush, Arkham Asylum and Batman: Black and White to begin with.
Other DC masterpieces:
Kingdom Come, Watchmen, Sandman, V for Vendetta, New Frontier, We3, Fables, Swamp Thing...
Unfortunately Superman, though he's the most iconic hero ever, the same cant be said for the quality of comics that produced. It's partly because of the way in which he was created, that it doesn't lend much for a writer to explore the character. However I definitely recommend these two:
It's a Bird, Superman for All Seasons.
I double these.
Bonehead15
02-23-2007, 10:04 PM
I would argue that Batman (when written well) is a far more complex, damaged and interesting character than Spider-man could ever be. Spidey hasn't really ever outgrown his teen angst.
As Shai would say "WORD." :D
wofford29
02-23-2007, 10:58 PM
There is not a Marvel book out there that has ever been nor will it ever be better than this....
http://i18.tinypic.com/42nu8fa.jpg
DC wins by default!
The ill Jedi
02-23-2007, 11:01 PM
There is not a Marvel book out there that has ever been nor will it ever be better than this....
http://i18.tinypic.com/42nu8fa.jpg
That's a Frank Miller book, he is an entity all unto himself. No denying that it's awesome though.
wofford29
02-23-2007, 11:07 PM
Wow great to hear, really. I really hope you love them. I definitely urge you read the ones mentioned. My first Batman comic was actually The Long Halloween. I'd read comics here and there, but I consider that to be the comic that kick started my real passion for the industry.
For Batman, I recommend:
Batman: Year One, Dark Knight Returns, The Long Halloween, The Killing Joke, Hush, Arkham Asylum and Batman: Black and White to begin with.
Other DC masterpieces:
Kingdom Come, Watchmen, Sandman, V for Vendetta, New Frontier, We3, Fables, Swamp Thing...
Unfortunately Superman, though he's the most iconic hero ever, the same cant be said for the quality of comics that produced. It's partly because of the way in which he was created, that it doesn't lend much for a writer to explore the character. However I definitely recommend these two:
It's a Bird, Superman for All Seasons. Kingdom Come is also very heavily a Superman story, and brilliant too
For Batman I'd throw in the a more recent one with "Batman: Year 100". It's the best Batman book I've read in a while.
carbo-fation
02-23-2007, 11:15 PM
After reading the Civil War arc for the past couple of months, I've become even less of a Marvel fan. What the hell where they thinking with the ending?!?!!:monkey4
I just like Marvel's style. The way most of the heroes balance costumed heroics and "normal" life from the 60's to the 80's just had so much charm. Some of those so called masterpiece stories of DC just seemed to have an odd pretentiousness about them not appropriate to the medium.
I like comic stories where Captain America beats up hundreds of Red Skull clones on a helicarrier far above the earth or Reed Richards must represent himself in a Galactic trial due to a planet being eaten by Galactus. That's what comics are all about to me and why I've always preferred Marvel.
Darklord Dave
02-24-2007, 12:42 AM
Batman/Bruce is not 'angst ridden'.
I never said Bruce wasn't full of angst - I was just comparing that to Peter's TEEN angst - insecurities about love, self-esteem, etc. Batman's angst is on a whole other level. Sure they both lost loved ones which motivates them to do right. However Peter's got that "with great power comes great responsibility" crutch, whereas Batman has no great power but has chosen to assume the responsibility anyway.
The ill Jedi
02-24-2007, 05:44 AM
I never said Bruce wasn't full of angst - I was just comparing that to Peter's TEEN angst - insecurities about love, self-esteem, etc. Batman's angst is on a whole other level. Sure they both lost loved ones which motivates them to do right. However Peter's got that "with great power comes great responsibility" crutch, whereas Batman has no great power but has chosen to assume the responsibility anyway.
Well said. So let's just agree that they are both Angst-ful! :D
:chew Hooray my 1,000th post finally!! :chew
Agent0028
02-24-2007, 08:28 AM
Thanks for the recommendations BD. Dunno if I'll read the Arkham one or not, from the reviews on Amazon alot of people used things like Disturbing, Gruesome, grotesque, and I'm not a huge fan of gratuitous and/or over the top violence and stuff. The others sound really great though.
Congrats on the 1 grand Ill Jedi!
Fritz
02-24-2007, 08:42 AM
Upon further review, I choose OTHER.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/9/90/Ijlsa.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/matchgame/3x5pictures/dirtybubblesnap1.jpg
Bardoon
02-24-2007, 09:31 AM
Speaking of DC and those that read comics here...why has DC screwed with Superman's origin so much?
While the basic premise remains the same.Other details and appearances of the characters have changed so much that I can't tell which one is the "true" one!
First there was Pre-Crisis,then Byrne's Man of Steel origin,then there were hints that Pre-Crisis might be the true one,then there was Superman:Birthright,and now in Action Comics (with Donner writing with Geoff Johns) they're going along the lines of something more like the Superman movies with a little bit of Smallville sprinkled in.
Come on now DC!Stop the madness! :monkey4
PosterBoyKelly
02-24-2007, 04:13 PM
Well the same goes for Marvel, the histories are so jacked for both companies. I mean that's why I stick to mini series. The basics hold in a self contained story. My fav. books by both companies are mini series. I like the basics = Superman from Krypton, Bruce Banner exists and needs to stay calm, Wizard Shazam! never died, Spider-Man was never cloned and has his basic suit. THAN twist in some cool story lines with those basics and make the story ABOUT the person in the suit and you got a good tale. It comes down to writing. DC really jacked its history, but so has Marvel, just not AS bad.
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