MGS 4 Raiden 12-inch Figure from Medicom

[Sun Jian]

More pics:

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nice job rock really like the pics ill most likely get the coat...when I preorderd raiden thats the first thing i went looking for was a coat wanted brown but black looks better any way :cool:

[freestylex06x]

i wish it looks less baggy and then it would be perfect but it still looks great

[Rock83]

i wish it looks less baggy and then it would be perfect but it still looks great

yeah thats why i folded the lower part of the coat behind him,at the same time make it look like wind blowing through his coat.

[Rock83]

nice job rock really like the pics ill most likely get the coat...when I preorderd raiden thats the first thing i went looking for was a coat wanted brown but black looks better any way :cool:

Thanks,looks better maybe,but i prefer accuracy over look,if you should come across a brown coat let us know,i would gladly trade away my black one for a similar brown one.

[Sun Jian]

Thanks,looks better maybe,but i prefer accuracy over look,if you should come across a brown coat let us know,i would gladly trade away my black one for a similar brown one.

If I find a brown ill go with that to because like you i like accuracy but for now black is not a bad look.....and if i find it i will for sure tell you :D

[Rock83]

If I find a brown ill go with that to because like you i like accuracy but for now black is not a bad look.....and if i find it i will for sure tell you :D

No its not bad at all,i love this figure now,its perfect!

Yeah let me know if you find one,will be highly appreciated.

[LipSmack]

i get my raiden on friday Yay!
and i got a spike coat too.
personally i think black is good, but a brown coat like big boss wore at the end of the game would be so SWEET!
i really wish medicom would expand this line, ie, vamp liquid big boss, etc..

looks realli good by the way

[freestylex06x]

how do you specifically take off a figure's coat? I am having trouble taking off my HT leon's coat

[LipSmack]

how did you get it on?

[Solidus01]

My Raiden figure just arrived today! :chew :banana I got him cheap on ebay for $184.99 in total.

Overall, the figure left a good impression on me. But, I was expecting a lot more in terms of articulation. Oh well. Besides that, this is the largest and most detailed action figure I have ever owned. I think this Raiden figure is WAAAYYY better than Old Snake. I'll post some pics later.

[Bat Eater]

ooo man I was so drunk that night I thuoght you were asking me a qustion...at first i did not even remeber I drink to much....by the way do you know how good toys 2 is .....sorry about the mix up like said i drink to much :rotfl



its cool bro, and about toys2.net, i never ordered there but i heard its also a good place. kid nemo still doesnt have them instock? By the way,sorry for the late reply

[Rock83]

After dressing up Raiden with the Coat i feel like dressing up V1 Snake now,with the Middle East Militia clothes,hard to find that type of clothing though,i assume.

Anyone know where i can ask someone to customize such clothes?

[Sun Jian]

its cool bro, and about toys2.net, i never ordered there but i heard its also a good place. kid nemo still doesnt have them instock? By the way,sorry for the late reply

the reason i asked about toys2 is i was looking at ht batman on bbt and it said in stock and as soon as i went to buy it like i didnt even click any thing and it said out of stock.... Im like ooo ^^^^ this thing is going like crazy so i went with toys 2 then like days later bbt has it back in :lol bro by the way i like your bio (sex,drugs and rock n roll):maul

After dressing up Raiden with the Coat i feel like dressing up V1 Snake now,with the Middle East Militia clothes,hard to find that type of clothing though,i assume.

Anyone know where i can ask someone to customize such clothes?

dude why stop there why not make him assassin snake :D

[Bardoon]

I just got my Raiden and WOW what an amazing job by Medicom. Well-sculpted and extremely detailed. I'm glad they even went the length with his flexible toes so he could hold his sword that way.

HOWEVER - I do not think he (or Old Snake) are worth $180+...I ended up getting Raiden from CSC for cheaper. It is also terribly disappointing that the suits are poorly constructed because they LOOK GREAT.I'm afraid to pose Raiden in fear of ruining the suit. These figures are among Medicom's best but also among their most disappointing.

[freestylex06x]

agreed no can deny raiden looks sweet (one of my best looking figures) but when it comes down to posing, despite some of the pictures ive seen here, im still scared to ruin a $175 figure with medicom's track record

[Solidus01]

I just got my Raiden and WOW what an amazing job by Medicom. Well-sculpted and extremely detailed. I'm glad they even went the length with his flexible toes so he could hold his sword that way.

HOWEVER - I do not think he (or Old Snake) are worth $180+...I ended up getting Raiden from CSC for cheaper. It is also terribly disappointing that the suits are poorly constructed because they LOOK GREAT.I'm afraid to pose Raiden in fear of ruining the suit. These figures are among Medicom's best but also among their most disappointing.

Honestly, I've posed my figure, and bent the arms a lot. I haven't seen any stress marks whatsoever. I guess the key is not to bend the suit beyond its elastic capabilities. Or maybe I just got a good figure. lol.

You've spent good money on this figure, might as well make the best out of it. I know that I am. :D

[Solidus01]

Guys, is it just me, or is changing the hands on this action figure somewhat difficult? Whenever I try to install a new hand on Raiden, my fingers constantly tug at his vinyl forearm. Tugging => loss in elasticity for the vinyl = stretch marks. This is... horrible!

Basically, the vinyl just gets in the way of installing the hands. I'm constantly worrying that my fingers might rip something.

Now, I'm starting to see why Medicom didn't give interchangeable arms for RAH Old Snake.

[freestylex06x]

really? my hands change too easily. they fall off with a little pressure so i thought they were broken but they werent. i had that trouble wit my batman figure though because of the suits

[Solidus01]

really? my hands change too easily. they fall off with a little pressure so i thought they were broken but they werent. i had that trouble wit my batman figure though because of the suits

LOL :lol just the opposite happened with me. In fact, when I first tried to change the hands, they were SOOO hard to come out, I thought that they were glued in place.

I guess that Medicom didn't employ the same quality control standards for all their figures.... hmm.

[Rock83]

Honestly, I've posed my figure, and bent the arms a lot. I haven't seen any stress marks whatsoever. I guess the key is not to bend the suit beyond its elastic capabilities. Or maybe I just got a good figure. lol.

You've spent good money on this figure, might as well make the best out of it. I know that I am. :D

You can bend the elbows and knees just fine without any problems,its the shoulder and thigh that does the damage if you bend the entire leg and arm,the glue seam is the problem,anything else is just fine.

[Solidus01]

Guys, do any of you know how many of these figures were produced? Raiden is listed as a "limited edition" on a lot of sites.

[LipSmack]

i just got my raiden today, not bad
i actually am more pleased witht this than i thought, but im definately not over posing him, i might even just leave him in the box.

[Bat Eater]

the reason i asked about toys2 is i was looking at ht batman on bbt and it said in stock and as soon as i went to buy it like i didnt even click any thing and it said out of stock.... Im like ooo ^^^^ this thing is going like crazy so i went with toys 2 then like days later bbt has it back in :lol



yeah toys2 and bbts sometimes says its instock and then sold out, thats what happened with my raiden, 3 weeks ago i checked cornerstorecomics.com, I clicked add to cart and it said it was sold out. Couple days later, I clicked and boom! I end up getting the last one instock :D


bro by the way i like your bio (sex,drugs and rock n roll):maul
Thanks :D:rock:rock:rock:rock:rock2:rock

[Sun Jian]

yeah toys2 and bbts sometimes says its instock and then sold out, thats what happened with my raiden, 3 weeks ago i checked cornerstorecomics.com, I clicked add to cart and it said it was sold out. Couple days later, I clicked and boom! I end up getting the last one instock :D



Thanks :D:rock:rock:rock:rock:rock2:rock

odd how that stuff works......im still waiting for kid nemo to get raiden in one other site said they were geting him in the 24th I hope kid nemo dose 2......Did you by any chance hear any thing on the mgs film?

[Solidus01]

odd how that stuff works......im still waiting for kid nemo to get raiden in one other site said they were geting him in the 24th I hope kid nemo dose 2......Did you by any chance hear any thing on the mgs film?

Dude, check out play-asia. They have the figure in stock RIGHT NOW!! :horror

[Snake627]

Raiden is listed as a "limited edition"

I'm tired of this fear based marketing tactic, this is a waaayy worn out piece of used and useless marketing pitch ever. People should get a product because it's good
not because they're driven by fear.

I say, everyone deserves a good thing. If it's good better make some more so that everyone can be happy. Life is just too short for deprivation and fear.

You have an average of 75 years to be truly alive. That's 24 hours a day.
And you have to sleep 8 hours a day, right? That's one third of every day shaven off. So, one third of your whole life which is 25 years has been shaved off...
You have less than 50 years to roam around and get to enjoy life and be happy,
unless ofcourse you die of other causes of death, no guarantees.
That's not all, whatever is left of the UNguaranteed 50 years or less to enjoy life and cause enjoyment to others is being wasted on a lot of other bull**** all around us....

So, "limited edition", huh.....Yeah right. :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

http://s480.photobucket.com/albums/rr163/Snake627/?start=40

[freestylex06x]

lol yeah olive drab was "limited" everyone thought but its not so limited, anyone can get one practically for $155.

[Rock83]

Yeah its a trick,when someone sees "Limited Edition" they think its something Special,its a sales trick,nothing more.

Olive Drab is pretty limited though,i think it was 500.

[Solidus01]

Raiden is listed as a "limited edition"

I'm tired of this fear based marketing tactic, this is a waaayy worn out piece of used and useless marketing pitch ever. People should get a product because it's good
not because they're driven by fear.

I say, everyone deserves a good thing. If it's good better make some more so that everyone can be happy. Life is just too short for deprivation and fear.

You have an average of 75 years to be truly alive. That's 24 hours a day.
And you have to sleep 8 hours a day, right? That's one third of every day shaven off. So, one third of your whole life which is 25 years has been shaved off...
You have less than 50 years to roam around and get to enjoy life and be happy,
unless ofcourse you die of other causes of death, no guarantees.
That's not all, whatever is left of the UNguaranteed 50 years or less to enjoy life and cause enjoyment to others is being wasted on a lot of other bull**** all around us....

So, "limited edition", huh.....Yeah right. :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

http://s480.photobucket.com/albums/rr163/Snake627/?start=40


I'm going to disagree with you here. The RAH figures produced for Metal Gear Solid are definitely limited. Old Snake was only available for about four months before becoming officially discontinued. Hobby Links Japan, Play Asia, etc. have all exhausted their stock of this figure for some time, and didn't restock since.

Similarly, RAH Olive Drab Snake was only available for a few short weeks, before sites (such as Sideshow) labled the figure as has being sold out.

RAH Raiden has been sold out since the pre-order was becoming available. The only store that currently has Raiden in stock is Play-Asia. I wonder what sort of deal they had to cut with Medicom for that to happen.

My point is that, if the figures weren't limited, online stores shouldn't have such a hard time getting them restocked. There should be plenty of these figures to go around, just like Transformers at a Toys 'R Us store. But, we all know that that this isn't the case. Don't even get me started with the limited availability of the original RAH Snake from MGS 3. That figure is impossible to find, unless you're willing to dish out an excess of $400 on ebay.

But, all of that being said, I still question as to why Medicom never assigns an individual number to their figures. :confused: I mean, we spend hundreds of dollars just to buy one of their products. The least they could have done, was give us a numbered certificate.

[freestylex06x]

Yeah its a trick,when someone sees "Limited Edition" they think its something Special,its a sales trick,nothing more.

Olive Drab is pretty limited though,i think it was 500.

wow really i thought that was a cheap ploy, it seems you can find it anywhere though so i was really doubting the 500 number

[freestylex06x]

I'm going to disagree with you here. The RAH figures produced for Metal Gear Solid are definitely limited. Old Snake was only available for about four months before becoming officially discontinued. Hobby Links Japan, Play Asia, etc. have all exhausted their stock of this figure for some time, and didn't restock since.

Similarly, RAH Olive Drab Snake was only available for a few short weeks, before sites (such as Sideshow) labled the figure as has being sold out.

RAH Raiden has been sold out since the pre-order was becoming available. The only store that currently has Raiden in stock is Play-Asia. I wonder what sort of deal they had to cut with Medicom for that to happen.

My point is that, if the figures weren't limited, online stores shouldn't have such a hard time getting them restocked. There should be plenty of these figures to go around, just like Transformers at a Toys 'R Us store. But, we all know that that this isn't the case. Don't even get me started with the limited availability of the original RAH Snake from MGS 3. That figure is impossible to find, unless you're willing to dish out an excess of $400 on ebay.

But, all of that being said, I still question as to why Medicom never assigns an individual number to their figures. :confused:

yeah i think medicom actually limits their figures as their figures are harder to find as time goes by. hot toys seems like it is easing their "limits" as the TDK stuff you can find anywhere after it imports

[Rock83]

wow really i thought that was a cheap ploy, it seems you can find it anywhere though so i was really doubting the 500 number

I actually think its 500,the Japan event it was first sold at stated that

[Solidus01]

I actually think its 500,the Japan event it was first sold at stated that

Yeah, I think it's 500 too. Sideshow got some of the allocation a few weeks after the figure was released. The only place you can find it now, is on Ebay. Everywhere else is sold out.

[Rock83]

Yeah, I think it's 500 too. Sideshow got some of the allocation a few weeks after the figure was released. The only place you can find it now, is on Ebay. Everywhere else is sold out.

and mine should have arrived today,but do you think the mailman managed to take it with him,NOOOOOOOOO ,so now i have to wait until monday.

[Solidus01]

and mine should have arrived today,but do you think the mailman managed to take it with him,NOOOOOOOOO ,so now i have to wait until monday.

Awesome man! The prices are pretty cheap now, so it's good that you took advantage of that.

You definitely have the largest MGS figure collection that I have ever seen.

[Rock83]

Awesome man! The prices are pretty cheap now, so it's good that you took advantage of that.

You definitely have the largest MGS figure collection that I have ever seen.

Thanks,and it will only continue after i bought this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=220281065472

[Solidus01]

Thanks,and it will only continue after i bought this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=220281065472

Oh man that looks awesome :horror. Have you thought about replacing Old Snake's head with that one?

[Rock83]

Oh man that looks awesome :horror. Have you thought about replacing Old Snake's head with that one?

nah why would i?Not on that suit,ill make another Naked Snake after Darren Carnall have painted some other head i have.

51$ for Nakes Snake`s head is not bad,when the whole figure cost over 300$

[Rock83]

So ive dressed up Raiden,he is now a perfect figure,wait a few days and ill show you a second custom from MGS4,it will look great!:D

[Bat Eater]

odd how that stuff works......im still waiting for kid nemo to get raiden in one other site said they were geting him in the 24th I hope kid nemo dose 2......Did you by any chance hear any thing on the mgs film?

I heard the MGS movie is due 2009 or 10, i forgot but one of those years. Honestly i rather paly MGS5 then a MGS movie


nah why would i?Not on that suit,ill make another Naked Snake after Darren Carnall have painted some other head i have.

51$ for Nakes Snake`s head is not bad,when the whole figure cost over 300$

i scored a zombie snake head for $20 about 2 years ago and still no custom yet.:banana

[Rock83]

i scored a zombie snake head for $20 about 2 years ago and still no custom yet.:banana


Man is that possible?Its hard to get hold of the accessories and that type of gloved hands though,so you must use your imagination and try something else.Im in the same situation since i got the new head now,i wanted this one to go on my Olive Drab custom(with the horrible repainted head) and send off my painted head to Darren Carnall to fix,ill come up with something.

[Synboi]

Hahaha you lucky bastard Rock, I was going to buy that head but I've only got 1 (When i bought my zombie camo MGS3 snake) rating on my ebay account :( so i was ignored.

[Rock83]

Hahaha you lucky bastard Rock, I was going to buy that head but I've only got 1 (When i bought my zombie camo MGS3 snake) rating on my ebay account :( so i was ignored.

muahahhaha,you can have it if you want,for like...500 bucks???:naughty

[Solidus01]

muahahhaha,you can have it if you want,for like...500 bucks???:naughty

No way! That's even more expensive than the actual figure itself! :monkey1

[Rock83]

No way! That's even more expensive than the actual figure itself! :monkey1

Ive touched it,thats worth it in itself...:lol

[Solidus01]

Ive touched it,thats worth it in itself...:lol

Ah, so you touched it, huh? I'll give you $10 for it. :lol

[Rock83]

Ive given up painting,i dont have the talent and i dont enjoy it,but i simply love searching for parts to put together to a figure,this head i just bought will be used VERY well,ive wanted to do a wounded Big Boss for a while now,with bandages,blood and such,i think that will be my next one after ive finished my next MGS4 custom.

[Solidus01]

Ive given up painting,i dont have the talent and i dont enjoy it,but i simply love searching for parts to put together to a figure,this head i just bought will be used VERY well,ive wanted to do a wounded Big Boss for a while now,with bandages,blood and such,i think that will be my next one after ive finished my next MGS4 custom.


Yeah, that sounds pretty cool. A custom paint job of Snake would an awesome project. By the way, do you buy new RAH Snake figures for custom jobs? Or do you use the stripped down model figures from Sideshow. They sell pretty cheap on Ebay, like $20. I wish I could give you a link to better explain, but I forgot it :(

[Rock83]

Yeah, that sounds pretty cool. A custom paint job of Snake would an awesome project. By the way, do you buy new RAH Snake figures for custom jobs? Or do you use the stripped down model figures from Sideshow. They sell pretty cheap on Ebay, like $20. I wish I could give you a link to better explain, but I forgot it :(

it depends on what im making and what body to use.I will use my V1 Snake for my custom,since i have a Olive Drab coming that will be displayed like it is.

[Synboi]

LOL just my luck, I finally got my Raiden today and it has significant tearing. Not like any tearing we've ever seen. The feet look as if someone tried to rip em off or something (like disected it or something XD) and the hip part has glue seem rips. Hopefully Play-Asia will give me a new non damaged one if possible. I'll post some pics in a short while XD.

[Synboi]

The WOES of Raiden!

Well here we go :D! (Note this is BRAND NEW OUT OF THE BOX AND HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED OTHERWISE)
:kane

First suit tearing:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3035/2877438490_c5d78c4f1e_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2877437252_56dabb96dd_b.jpg

Suit degradation - you see that black dot near the seam of the arm/mainbody suit? That's a clump of the black suit that seems to have degraded and attached itself to the white part :

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/2876609857_a121864da7_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3151/2877441130_2826592e4b_b.jpg

Now for the grand finale the random ass feet XD:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2877439814_25c5db8f0c_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2876603477_9c0021b9c8_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3264/2877434844_344a5e23b0_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/2876601039_f526a3a0ac_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2877432312_8e7be93aff_b.jpg

Oh well I'll see if I can get a replacement, but this just reinforces the fact I won't be buying any more Medicom figures XD. bar a MGS3 snake >.> at least those can be fixed.

[Synboi]

Also LOL at metal joints, there isn't a single metal bit in those heel joints that i can see. There might be a metal screw but everything else is pure plastic. So much for advertising XD.

[Rock83]

Aww Man that sucks,but no surprise,thats why i posted pics and gave my thoughts right away when i got mine to warn other fans.

[Synboi]

What gets me is how could they miss that O.o? Medicom must either not check their products at all or were hoping no one would care XD. It's kind of sad though I'd been waiting for over 6 months to get this character and it's the only one that's gone horribly wrong XD. It has one of those pre-order MGS4 12 june things on the front so it makes me suspect that this was one of the figures made before the design was changed. Also I've noticed his head is quite loose as well and the suit has discolourations as you can see on the last foot pic (left foot near the toes the yellowy part has black rubbings on them XD) as well as little black spots on the white parts of the suit. Talk about unlucky XD.

Also Rock i've noticed with my zombie camo snake that I can't twist his right arm is there a chance the rubber suit has constricted this or is it more likely that my zombie camo is broken also XD.

Oh well at least my Metal Gear Solid 1: Premium Pal Limited edition came today and that's in almost perfect condition for a 10 year old game (bar the box that has some dents etc), which rocks. They're so hard to come by, they cost like $300 US on Ebay and I only got mine for $137 NZ shipped from a local trading site. Maybe it's karma >.>.

[Rock83]

Medicom is arrogant and dont care about the fans obviously as long as they get the $$$ ,they are rude and pretty arrogant if you email them.

About your Zombie Snake,what exactly is your problem?You cant twist the arm and if you do,does it bounce back?

Just undress him and check...

[Kovach]

That Raiden is FUBAR. Sorry mate, sucks when stuff like that happens.

[freestylex06x]

your not alone man, i am boycotting medicom too, i bought a venom and within seconds of taking him out his arm fell out. hes totally useless now

[Rock83]

your not alone man, i am boycotting medicom too, i bought a venom and within seconds of taking him out his arm fell out. hes totally useless now

I bought medicoms MGS figures,thats it.Im weak when it comes to MGS:o

[Synboi]

hehehe yeh the only thing I'll buy from Medicom is MGS stuff, I'm a totall MGS whore, I have two copies of every game somehow which is really scary and the limited editions of each of them. I'm still missing two premium packs though >.>.
Rock beats me in the figurine department but I think i may be beating him in the game department >.>.

I'm kind of sad Medicom doesn't want to wake up and smell the roses because they have so much potential. Their gazes and character persona are spot on, they just fail hardcore at execution. I'm just glad the guys at Play-Asia are great guys otherwise I'd be in a bit of a pickle.

Oh and Rock my zombies arm just won't budge, no movement what so ever or bounce back. XD I'm also afraid of taking off his jacket since these things cost upwards of 250 USD. Though I think I might have to.

[freestylex06x]

yeah ive only bought medicom stuff from my favorite lines (SM3/MGS/Batman) and ive got to say i have less fun with them than my HT Leon. all of them were misses as a total figure, they just looked good standing still. im putting an end to my medicom cash flow.

[Synboi]

Yeh i love static poses like this one of my MGS3 zombie

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3138/2739784850_d7ef09b97e_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3097/2832022643_cc6e9bf31b_b.jpg

but i would love to be able to freely pose them. Too bad Medicom isn't user friendly XD.

[Rock83]

well Synboi,im not sure what the problem is with his arm so i cant answer your question.
Allthough,you can undress him just fine,ive done it with my figures many times and its nothing to be afraid of,the clothes are solid,so they wont tear apart by taking them off or anything,as long as you undress him carefully.

Then you will see if its the black jacket thats holding a pressure on the arm or if a shoulder broke off.

[Synboi]

lols well the feet thing i think is standard O.O. I've been looking at pics and i haven't seen a single one with attached feet, strange. Anyway apparently they won't give me a new one because tearing is something that's "normal" and i'll just have to live with it XD. Oh well all that means is i've got to glue the pink thing on his right leg back on and it should be fine. Can anyone recomend a good plastic to vinyl super strong glue?

Also how on earth do you take the solid eyes out. They're retardily annoying 30 minutes and they're still not out XD.

[Rock83]

oh you mean the Wrist between the arm and hand?You said arm at first,Yeah it can be stuck,but its not broken,carefully twist it and it will come,not dangerous.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Getting more and more concerned about the Raiden I'm still waiting for. Hope it arrives ok. With so poor QC from Medicom's side, perhaps they don't 'need' the customers from outside Asia. They make enough money on the Asian market I think. I have a lot of medicom figures, and a lot of them had issues. I wonder if the Asian collectors have as many issues with Medicom figures as we have. Would be interesting to ask someone that frequents a Asian collectors board. Perhaps we get all the second picks?

[Synboi]

Yeh the sholder joint works fine it's just the arm part where it swivels/bicep part that's stuck. Hopefully nothings damaged but i can't bring myself to touch my zombie XD.

[LipSmack]

maybe medicom sends all of the rejects from their QC to the north american market. :lol

[clockwork463]

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=MED10121&mode=retail

goin for cheap...."ish" get em while there still there.....


mine is never coming out of the box.

[Synboi]

Medicom has QC :O!!!! That sounds like news to Medicom owners everywhere. These guys are like the EA/EB Store of the figurine world XD.

[Spliff]

The WOES of Raiden!

Well here we go :D! (Note this is BRAND NEW OUT OF THE BOX AND HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED OTHERWISE)
:kane

First suit tearing:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3035/2877438490_c5d78c4f1e_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2877437252_56dabb96dd_b.jpg

Suit degradation - you see that black dot near the seam of the arm/mainbody suit? That's a clump of the black suit that seems to have degraded and attached itself to the white part :

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/2876609857_a121864da7_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3151/2877441130_2826592e4b_b.jpg

Now for the grand finale the random ass feet XD:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2877439814_25c5db8f0c_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2876603477_9c0021b9c8_b.jpg
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Oh well I'll see if I can get a replacement, but this just reinforces the fact I won't be buying any more Medicom figures XD. bar a MGS3 snake >.> at least those can be fixed.
why would you expect metal in the foot? they CLEARLY state the metal joints are on the BODY. it's your fault for that dissapointment.

[Synboi]

Too bad your wrong. It says on the actual packet "Metal joint used on each articulation", me thinks you should do some research first before being an ass. Note the foot is part of the body, i'm guessing what you meant to say was it isn't part of the torso.

Anyway there could be a bit of metal in it but from what I can see it just looks like plastic which is a tad dissapointing.

[Solidus01]

Man, you guys are having some bad experiences with your action figures. My heart does go out to all of you, fellow fans of MGS :(

I've followed Rock's advice, and haven't posed Old Snake or Raiden that much, and I think that I'll leave it that way. I'm glad that there hasn't been any tearing on my figures.

The Japanese are supposed to be industry leaders when it comes to quality control. They are the ones who invented Quality Function Design (QFD), and helped to modernize western manufacturers with their ideas. It's too bad that Medicom isn't following that great tradition.

[Spliff]

so, since i ripped the leg pretty good when I originally got my Raiden...I decided to maul it further for you all.

what i found was retardation, and trickery.

Medicom decided to use foam to beef up his legs. the problem? Medicom held the foam in place(which is wrapped THICK) with just as much tape but in their INFINITE wisdom guess where they wrapped it? ON HIS KNEES. removing the foam wrapping improves the figure TONS, as the figure can do anything you want after that. nice going Medicom. :rolleyes:

other than that, the only metal Medi used on the body are the scews. =(

[Synboi]

Ouch Spliff that sucks and yeh Medicom are now and forever not getting my cash. I was a big fan of their figures but they're crappy QC and suits have changed my mind. Good luck with fixing your Raiden though.

Also Play-Asia update: They won't give me a partial refund or a replacement because they feel this is what a figure normally comes like..... even if the bits on it are only dangling by a tiny bit of glue and there is a rip on the suit XD. Oh well looks like Play-Asia won't be getting any of my 1/6 business anymore.

[Rock83]

so, since i ripped the leg pretty good when I originally got my Raiden...I decided to maul it further for you all.

what i found was retardation, and trickery.

Medicom decided to use foam to beef up his legs. the problem? Medicom held the foam in place(which is wrapped THICK) with just as much tape but in their INFINITE wisdom guess where they wrapped it? ON HIS KNEES. removing the foam wrapping improves the figure TONS, as the figure can do anything you want after that. nice going Medicom. :rolleyes:

other than that, the only metal Medi used on the body are the scews. =(


i dont know if im gonna laugh or use my time getting pissed at Medicom,this is pathetic,but it makes sense since the Legs and Arms on Snake cant be bended far til they bounce back,same with Raiden.What the hell are Medicom doing?What was the point using foam inside his suit and specially over its knees when its supposed to be fully poseable?oh my god i dont know what to say,nothing surprises me anymore with medicom.

[Snake627]

Ouch man! This is just Ouch... It really stings!

@Synbio, this is so terrible and it really frustrates me to see this.
You know, I'm in Asia, and mine didn't have problems at all, except for the obvious lack of articulation which I struggled with...maybe I'm just lucky I guess. But for the price tag on this item... I really truly believe no one should be worrying at all anymore about possible defects and questionable durability and unreliable quality. For the high price of this 1/6 a buyer has every goddamn right to believe and be more than assured of satisfaction contrary to being
assured of disappointments and lots of failures.
No one who is willing to shell out as much be subjected to such a harsh remorseful experience. This is just heart rending.
Considering the high price, this is not a joke.

I feel this is such a huge injustice considering how long you've waited, and you waited waaayy too long just to get yours (I know) and you only ended up with terribly bad news like this. And to think I was really looking forward to seeing your posts on what I considered as the
"1/6 Holy Grail Figure of 2008".

Obviously from my posts you know that I really love this Cyborg Raiden.

It is already such pain to have seen my all time favorite SolidSnake be treated with such blunt lack of articulation, soft hollow hands, soft useless knife, a fragile inner body and lack of accessories, like the Mk11. This latest news of yours really hits it where it hurts, BIG TIME.

And I was sooo looking forward to your Raiden posts...but now this...???

This is just not right, AT ALL.

For me this is my first ridiculously-priced branded 1/6... as new to this
1/6 thing... I think I learned a valuable lesson here that really shattered my reality as I firmly thought...
"What has worth, is worth paying for; What has worth is worth waiting for".

And I thought I was at the start of something really good...
This news is just mind boggling to me.
Now, I'm thinking I may just as well quit now while it's early and stay away forever from this type of hobby before I even get hooked and burned.

I just can never tolerate this kind of thing to ever happen to me.
If it were to happen to me what happened to you, I'd be sooo pissed.
So this Raiden may just be my last 1/6...

And your Play-Asia update: What!? They won't even give you a partial refund or a replacement because they feel this is what a figure normally comes like?!.....
it obviously looks like you got a Refurb Raiden.

Now, I'm seriously having second thoughts...tsk, tsk, tsk.

[Synboi]

Yeh I've been waiting a while for Raiden and I was sooooo happy he was sent on his way about two days ago (I was thinking of doing some rad poses like the ones you yourself had been doing earlier this month) but now I'm just saddened by Play-Asia's sever lack of customer service and general disrespect towards the matter and Medicoms bad QC.
Personally if I have to end up living with this Raiden I might just go back to buying tons of PS3 games (maybe an xbox blowup 360) and 20-30 USD 15cm figs. Since they're cheap and less dangerous to buy (scratched game = instant refund/replacement).
It's really sad when you love a hobby but have to stop due to the manufacturers just generally not giving a ^^^^.

Anyway thanks for the support Snake it's really needed as seeing 330 NZ go down the drain due to QC makes me a sad sad panda.
However I wouldn't suggest leaving 1/6th all together, just avoid Medicom and Play-Asia as Hot Toys and other retaliers seem to be doing some great stuff and generally they don't have tons of problems.
It just seems Medicom just doesn't want to up their anti to compete with Hot Toys (too bad there isn't a HT MGS line >.<, that would be my dream come true and I'd buy one or two of each of them :D! - Beauty and the Beast core *drool*).

[freestylex06x]

yeah man sorry to hear this, buying medicom figs with a outer suit made of vinyl or rubber is like buying a statue with paint chips.

[Solidus01]

so, since i ripped the leg pretty good when I originally got my Raiden...I decided to maul it further for you all.

what i found was retardation, and trickery.

Medicom decided to use foam to beef up his legs. the problem? Medicom held the foam in place(which is wrapped THICK) with just as much tape but in their INFINITE wisdom guess where they wrapped it? ON HIS KNEES. removing the foam wrapping improves the figure TONS, as the figure can do anything you want after that. nice going Medicom. :rolleyes:

other than that, the only metal Medi used on the body are the scews. =(

Ha ha. Spliff, wtf did you do with your figure? It sounds like you skinned Raiden alive :lol

Can you post some pics for us?

[Snake627]

Hot Toys (too bad there isn't a HT MGS line >.<, that would be my dream come true and I'd buy one or two of each of them :D! - Beauty and the Beast core *drool*).

Same here, I've been emailing them regarding this but I only get generic replies too. The kind of replies Rock posted...
It does sound like a Medicom successor to me... But I do hope they don't go down that direction.

I don't know, maybe I'm just a little bit disturbed by these incidents since I'm so new to this.

I haven't tried HT yet. How can I? Like I said, I'm an MGS fan and they have yet to answer to that challenge with their own MGS line.

You know the path of Arrogance is the surest way to meet your downfall...

[Solidus01]

Guys, Hot Toys can't simply decide to make MGS figures, they don't have the license to do so. As it appears at present, Medicom is the company that's currently licensed by Konami to make the figures. Also, don't forget that Hot Toys and Medicom are competitors.

All of that being said, there's probably a lot of legalities behind acquiring the license from Medicom. So much so, that Hot Toys might not even bother with it at all :monkey2

[freestylex06x]

yeah forget about a HT MGS figure, lobby for other licenses that Medicom hasnt obtained already so that Medicom doesnt get a chance to butcher more figures.

[Synboi]

Ok now WTF, I can't even return the product if i pay for the shipping myself. Now I KNOW that is allowed at any store? How dumb do they think I am? Jesus.

Looks like I'm stuck with my broken Raiden -_- I guess I could try and glue some of the stuff back together and hide the tear with the jacket I bought.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6271/truckyouplayasiasa8.jpg

[noisetrigger]

In Play Asia defense, the figure you got is hardly defective from Medicom POV.

Yes, it's less than perfect. A few I saw in stores and other forums have the same issues, tears near the butt, plastic stress mark at the feet, and lots of glue residue under the arm. And Medicom still knowingly sends this out to retailers despite the problems so in Medicom eyes, these are passable issues.

So what can PA do? If Medicom see it fit to give retailers such a product, it is only normal for PA to assume that it's fit for sale. And when we are not happy with it, our beef is really with Medicom, not PA. PA will not give you and exchange because Medicom will tell them that what happened to you is normal.

I have learned my lesson with Medicom. I will only be buying HT and SS from now on. As cool as some of the licenses Medicom has (their Jap Anime and Manga stuff) I just can't on principal buy a product that Medicom knows has issues and yet choose not to do anything about it.

Me also thinks that these sudden shipment of Raiden that PA got are probably rejects from other retailers.

[Synboi]

Heheh yeh I fixed up all the tears with some awesome UHU glue and it actually looks brand new as the glue when dried looks just like the white suit and is rock hard. I also noticed that on the other hip the glue application was bad as well so I touched that up and now it looks pretty awesome.

Well anyway here are a few pics but I dare not pose him >.> I'd rather not get anymore rips or damage, that damn pink thing on his leg took ages to let it dry and seal itself to the rubber.

To be honest the best thing about this figure is the freaking awesome box art

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/2884673042_7993a02531_b.jpg
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Edit:
I also sent off this letter to them, but i bet all i'm going to get in return is a generic response XD.

"Perfect physical condition? You've got to be kidding me.

Anyway we in the collecting community do not take kindly to being used and abuse in this sort of manner. As such I will be making other collectors aware of the basic lack of respect for your customers and the products you ship. I seriously hope you revise your returns policy in suit to the other 1/6 sellers in the world or I don't see your revenue increasing if you're unable to refund broken items. However I was able to fix my problems with glue and a lot of hard work but you have lost my 1/6th figure business for good, I hope it was worth it :).

Regards David, a disappointed prior fan. "

[Spliff]

Ha ha. Spliff, wtf did you do with your figure? It sounds like you skinned Raiden alive :lol

Can you post some pics for us?

that's a pretty accurate description actually. :(

i'll have pics for you guys after I wake up, off to bed now.

[Snake627]

@noisetrigger

Hmmm...you may have a point as I got mine in perfect condition.
But the sudden availability of this with Play-Asia also got me thinking
how they were able to re-supply their stock.

Granted Medicom is the source of this problem.
But Play-Asia could have atleast opened it and fixed the issues
rather than risk losing face.

It clearly looks like Synbio got a refurbished one.

So let's say it is a refurbished one. Taking that into consideration, they should have
opened the box, inspected the item, showed their concern and fix it up prior to
delivery. That gesture would be most appreciated.

A refurbished product should always be reconditioned and touched up
so that it will be more perfect and more superior compared to it's original sealed item
with the original sealed defects.

Anyway, Synbio's able to fix it up, with expert hands and talent
this one should be waayy better than before. But, he really shouldn't need to
in the first place...

[noisetrigger]

I don't think synbio got a refurbished one at all. All the issues he pointed was similar to those few that I saw and heard off. Basically, they came out of the Medicom factory that way with all the flaws. Maybe not all but a large portion.

PA at most will only open the flap and do a visual inspection. As long as there isn't anything out of the ordinary (obvious stuff like a missing heard or missing parts) it will be fit for delivery to them. No way will any online store actually open a box to inspect every figure because that will devalue the item, making it BIB and used.

Heck, even the store at my place will not open a box unless you are going to buy that particular one on the spot.

[Snake627]

The level of artistry done on this figure is immense, my hat is off to the sculptors, painters... the real artists. They deserve to be pirated by a better company with better Quality Control.

In a sense, this is dishonoring their talents and all the hardwork put into this.
When the final product only ends up with all these unwanted flaws and lack of durability.
It just makes these incidents all the more unacceptable.

Even the middlemen become the unwary victims.

Well, perhaps it will be in all our best interests to give online stores permission to open the box for full inspection, without risk of devaluing the item. They could just reseal it with their own Seal of Assurance. "Carefully inspected by (Name of Store)".

Contrary to devaluing the item it would definitely secure confidence of the buyer and at the same time create a better buyer-seller relationship conducive to
building loyalty rather than risk losing it.

As there are many online stores, this is an area in which one can trump competition.

It doesn't have to be mandatory. It can be an Option offered to the buyer during checkout. A small check-box buyers can click giving Expressed Consent to the Online Store to work their wonders.

Both parties will surely benefit from this.

[Synboi]

lolz it just goes from bad to worse XD. I just snapped my holders for my original MSG4 snake so now I have to use leg ones >.<. Oh well here is a pic of my MGS/PS3 shrine XD.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/2886554337_10793e5515_b.jpg

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[Rock83]

Nice,i see you got the same coat as i did,ill dress up my V1 Snake shortly,ill post pics when im done.

[Synboi]

Yeh and it's really nice. Everyone has been asking where to get it XD, seems like it's really popular XD. Too bad they sold out though, now they'll have to buy the full figure for $45 in order to get it.

Also oooooo what are you dressing V1 Snake up as?
I personally plan to do mine up with his terrorist uniform when I find some good clothes.

[Solidus01]

Yeh and it's really nice. Everyone has been asking where to get it XD, seems like it's really popular XD. Too bad they sold out though, now they'll have to buy the full figure for $45 in order to get it.

Also oooooo what are you dressing V1 Snake up as?
I personally plan to do mine up with his terrorist uniform when I find some good clothes.

Ha ha!!! It's called a Middle Eastern uniform, not a "terrorist uniform". But, yeah....:rotfl

[Rock83]

Thats actually the one im making,thought about it for so long,trying to find some clothing though

[Sun Jian]

[QUOTE=Bat Eater;1164857]I heard the MGS movie is due 2009 or 10, i forgot but one of those years. Honestly i rather paly MGS5 then a MGS movie


Yo dude I just got raiden but I got it from BBTS kid nemo never got them on and they never will they sent me a E-mail saying they could not get any....Its a good thing I went with bbts :banana...The new pic is cool to....

[terryvad]

Wanna give me a direct link?I found a loose parts section but there was no picture.

is it this one?

SST9-U505 Vampire Spike Trench Coat

Any idea where I can get a similar coat for my Raiden ? :monkey2
(the Vampire Spike Trench Coat is "sold out" on the website where you have buy it...)
I don't want buy the complete 12" just for the coat...

By the way, the Coat on the Spike Sideshow 12" is it the same than the Vampire Spike Sideshow 12" ?

I want this Raiden (look at 1'50min):
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=TscXfKUDwIc

:cool:

Thx

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Just got my Raiden, and he's ok. No tears or other damage. A little paint rub on the back perhaps, yes. I received it together with the HT Tereus and the HT Alien Dallas. I still need to inspect Dallas, but, after inspecting Raiden and Tereus- which also has a rubber full body suit - I'm starting to question if these rubber suit guys should really carry the lable 'posable'. I already own HT Duenen and Breareos, so I knew that the articulation is limited, but at least these hold a pose! As for Raiden, I ask myself how this

...
Courtesy of SolidSnake

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2782185208_b9944a6b94.jpg?v=0

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...

is possible.

Whenever I try to get Raidens arm into a pose, bent his elbow, it flips right back in the neutral position. Don't get me wrong, the figure is cool, but it is also a perfect example of why these things are NOT toys: you couldn't play with them if you wanted too!
Anyway, he goes of into the box, and I go on checking on Captain Dallas. Should be fun, with all the lights and so!

[Synboi]

Yeh, Snake stretched and strained the rubber for long periods of time forcefully which meant he was able to get extreme poses. He also pulled at the seems and tore the rubber seams apart giving it a bit more flexibility.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Yeh, Snake stretched and strained the rubber for long periods of time forcefully which meant he was able to get extreme poses. He also pulled at the seems and tore the rubber seams apart giving it a bit more flexibility.
THAT explains everything. I didn't know that. I think not everybody is willing to go that far with his $175 figure!

[Synboi]

Yeh me neither, mine came out of the box with suit tearing. No way will I be stretching his delicate suit, it took me a full 1-2 hours just to touch up the suit and reseal the rubber back together then 2-4 days of waiting till the glue went to a hard clear cement. Looks great now but it's no way worth the risk..... especially since i paid like 330 NZD for it :S.

[terryvad]

Raiden in the house !


http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2985/trraidenrh4.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trraidenrh4.jpg)http://img507.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2985/trraidenrh4.jpg

little review of this 12"

Good points :
- Armor "movie accurate".
- 12" cool, Raiden is a badass character !

Bad points :
- paintjob on the head too clean
- littles flaws everywhere
(unworthy for a Medicom 12")

In def, a really cool badass 12" for all MGS fans.
For me the best MGS 4 12" by far

:cool:

[Synboi]

One word of warning about the leg plastic things, they are only attached by glue unlike the other armor parts which are secured into the rubber, so be very very very careful with them XD.

[Rock83]

Any idea where I can get a similar coat for my Raiden ? :monkey2
(the Vampire Spike Trench Coat is "sold out" on the website where you have buy it...)
I don't want buy the complete 12" just for the coat...

By the way, the Coat on the Spike Sideshow 12" is it the same than the Vampire Spike Sideshow 12" ?

I want this Raiden (look at 1'50min):
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=TscXfKUDwIc

:cool:

Thx

I think thats the only one thats accurate enough for raiden,youve seen my pics havent you?The coat is perfect as long as you pose it right.If the colour worries you,you can always dye it yourself with the brown colour youre after.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7975/58535257im6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


There is this Blade figure from Medicom that just released,but not seen any loose coats of it yet,but i heard that the sword scabbard on his back is stuck to the coat and might ruin the coat if you try to rip it off.This is what i have heard,not done it myself,so i dont know.

http://cgi.ebay.com/IN-STOCK-BLADE-RAH-12-MEDICOM-FIGURE-1-6-SCALE-COMICS_W0QQitemZ350107820655QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em350107820655&_trkparms=72%3A1417%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C 240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[terryvad]

One word of warning about the leg plastic things, they are only attached by glue unlike the other armor parts which are secured into the rubber, so be very very very careful with them XD.

What leg plastic things are you talking about ?

[terryvad]

Thanks for you help Rock83.

I will pass on blade coat...

however any idea if the Coat on the Spike Sideshow 12" is it the same than the "Vampire" Spike Sideshow 12" ?

I ask this because the two different Spike figure are not same price, one are most cheaper than other one.

[Synboi]

The plastic pink thing to the right of his knee.

[terryvad]

The plastic pink thing to the right of his knee.
No problem at all for me, I don't play with my Raiden ^^
(And I will don't move it too)

[kazukijun]

The arms should be failry ok, I am able to achieve 90 degrees bend & lifting them up sideways or forwards are not a problem.

I did the same thing as Snake & stretched & tore his leg sections apart to allow more poseability.......haha errr..not sure if I was stupid but I just wanted him to have more dynamic poses.

[Rock83]

Thanks for you help Rock83.

I will pass on blade coat...

however any idea if the Coat on the Spike Sideshow 12" is it the same than the "Vampire" Spike Sideshow 12" ?

I ask this because the two different Spike figure are not same price, one are most cheaper than other one.

Yeah Vampire Spike,check this auction,very cheap...allthough the shipping would cost a bit...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sideshow-Buffy-BTVS-Vampire-Spike-12-MIB_W0QQitemZ220295243808QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item2 20295243808&_trkparms=72%3A1417%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C 240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[terryvad]

I am from France and shipping is 60$ :monkey2

Again any idea rock83 if Spike Sideshow 12" coat is it the same than the "Vampire" Spike Sideshow 12 ?

[Rock83]

I am from France and shipping is 60$ :monkey2

Again any idea rock83 if Spike Sideshow 12" coat is it the same than the "Vampire" Spike Sideshow 12 ?

as i mentioned,go for the vampire Spike,but if its the same as Vampire Spike i dont know,but it looks similar,check www.sideshowtoy.com and search for SPIKE and youll find all the Spike`s.

[JonnyReedie]

jackpot



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160289288056

[Spliff]

jackpot



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160289288056
wow, that one's perfect. nice grab.:chew

[JonnyReedie]

i'll post pics when i can get both together,

my raiden is waiting for me at home, and the coat is on it's way from hong kong, so i could be a couple of weeks....

but yeah, it is perfect, even moreso for a mgs1 liquid

[JonnyReedie]

rock 83? what movie is your fig from??!! it's awesome

[Rock83]

Its a nice coat,but its slightly different than Raidens,it looks like Big Bossès coat in MGS4 though more than Raidens.

[Rock83]

rock 83? what movie is your fig from??!! it's awesome

fig???:confused:

[JonnyReedie]

i meant sig- oops

[Synboi]

It's Total Recall. Staring good old Arnold Schwarzenegger (who is in Rocks sig and avatar).

[Rock83]

I thought everyone knew Total Recall...hehe

[JonnyReedie]

ive heard of it, but not seen it, is this the same film with the three breasted woman?

[Synboi]

Sure is, also lol for you only remembering that part XD!

[terryvad]

jackpot



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160289288056

Post pics As soon as you can man, that's will be cool :cool:
(I want see how it look before buy it)

[JonnyReedie]

i'll be getting raiden this saturday, the coat should arrive a week after...

[JonnyReedie]

some very quick phone pics, i will get some good pics on monday when i have access to my good camera, enjoy, the coat is a little small though

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[mpchi]

Late in the game, but finally got my MGS4 Raiden. It sure is a mix of greatness and disappointment all at the same time. The condition of the suit on mine is decent. Only some minor paint crack/tear on one butt seam, and some minor paint flaws. But nothing bad or tearing rubber. However, the body inside is quite disappointing. All the joints are much looser than my Old Snake's. And since they are all consistently loose on all joints, its not so much a QC issue of one or two problematic joints, but the body as a whole, including the feet and makes him not very easy to stand. Its by no means floppy, but they are not strong enough to hold almost any poses under the rebound of the rubber suit. And with the possible tearing on armpit & hip seams, guess I have to treat Raiden as a slightly poseable statue instead...

But gripes aside, man...he look so awesome. A bit funky on the eyes, so I repainted it really quickly. Also got Sideshow Vampire Spike's jacket for him. After checking on the videos, turn out this jacket is pretty much exactly the same jacket as the one Raiden is wearing! Fits him well enough, but arms a bit baggy. With some minor tayloring, this jacket would fit him perfectly. So for guys that still want to get Raiden a jacket, this would be the one to get, without costing too much. So overall, an awesome looking figure, with disappointing articulation. It wouldn't be bad at all if it has the same quality body as my Old Snake (joints very tight). But not sure why Medicom used bodies that have much looser joints, even looser than many recent Medicom releases I bought.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4666.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4672.jpg

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[Alice Adrenochrome]

Yes, the poseability was my major gripe also. Those joints are just not tight enough. And, to think that Medicom advertises these joints on the box: "Metal joint used on each articulation, allowing the figure to maintain variety of realistic poses!". Well, that is some exaggeration, isn't it! My Raiden does not maintain poses... Guess, its like mpchi says, he's more of a slightly poseable statue. Disappointing, really.

[Synboi]

There isn't any metal joints from what i can see on my naked Raiden body only a few metal screws.

[terryvad]

Late in the game, but finally got my MGS4 Raiden. It sure is a mix of greatness and disappointment all at the same time. The condition of the suit on mine is decent. Only some minor paint crack/tear on one butt seam, and some minor paint flaws. But nothing bad or tearing rubber. However, the body inside is quite disappointing. All the joints are much looser than my Old Snake's. And since they are all consistently loose on all joints, its not so much a QC issue of one or two problematic joints, but the body as a whole, including the feet and makes him not very easy to stand. Its by no means floppy, but they are not strong enough to hold almost any poses under the rebound of the rubber suit. And with the possible tearing on armpit & hip seams, guess I have to treat Raiden as a slightly poseable statue instead...

But gripes aside, man...he look so awesome. A bit funky on the eyes, so I repainted it really quickly. Also got Sideshow Vampire Spike's jacket for him. After checking on the videos, turn out this jacket is pretty much exactly the same jacket as the one Raiden is wearing! Fits him well enough, but arms a bit baggy. With some minor tayloring, this jacket would fit him perfectly. So for guys that still want to get Raiden a jacket, this would be the one to get, without costing too much. So overall, an awesome looking figure, with disappointing articulation. It wouldn't be bad at all if it has the same quality body as my Old Snake (joints very tight). But not sure why Medicom used bodies that have much looser joints, even looser than many recent Medicom releases I bought.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4666.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4672.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4675.jpg

Your repaint is really good, Raiden look much more "accurate" like that.
I will probably to the same thing...

Also you're right, this is definitively the best Jacket for Raiden, too bad I don't find this one for my Raiden...:sick

[mpchi]

Thanks for the comment.

Yeah. Since I got a very sturdy body on Old Snake, I was expecting the same, or better. Turn out the tightness is one of the worse in my Medicom collection, with even the neck joint and hand pegs are loose. The hand peg doesn't lock in place like they should in my other Medicom figures with the same kind of hand pegs (Kenshiro). Really don't know what Medicom has in mind... You would have thought that they give extra care to the body tightness, knowing its all sealed up and can't be fixed like normal figures.

Saw some collectors cut open the armpit & hip seams to allow much bigger range of movement. The joint tightness on mine won't even allow any of those poses, even if I have those cut. All my Raiden can do is stand in a very cool fashion, with minimum shoulder movement, and elbow only bends like 50 degree.

[mpchi]

Guess what?! Turned out Medicom didn't lie about having metal in the joints for Raiden. After getting bothered by the loose joints of Raiden to be almost unposeable, I underwent a big operation and decided to open him up big time. To my surprise, the RAH body no longer used the normal metal pins on most hinges, but a new screw/bolt & nut system that actually allows you to adjust tightness and clamps the joint much more securely. If its not the sealed up rubber suit, you can actually get some nice adjustment on the joints (though some can still be looser with the screw tightened all the way. So it is a more advance base body afterall.

HOWEVER, the freaking QC never tighten up most of the screws on Raiden!!! And really don't know what they are smoking when I saw they just wrapping foam by a bunch of scotch tape aroung the thigh AND the knee joint! No wonder Raiden can't hold his knee bending at all! While the design of the figure and material is not half bad (some limit articulation), they really did some crazy crap on the assembly to worsen the figure a whole lot more (the stupid stuff mentioned, bad glueing, and some sloppy paint too). They literally destroyed this Raiden figure on the QC.

[mpchi]

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Ok. So here are a few pics on Raiden (and Old Snake)'s new 'metal joints'. It may not look like much at first glance, but the screw/bolt & nut replaces the old hollow metal pin (which generates unpredictable tightness or looseness to the joint, depends on how it was assembled). As you can see in the third pic, the screw has a smooth section, which functions just like the old metal pin as the hinge joint pivot, but the screw & the hex nut on the other end provides adjustable tightness clamping the hinge joint from both sides. If all future medicom figures come with bodies like this, loose joints will most likely be less of an issue, as you can simply tighten up that joint screw. I see Raiden has this new joint on elbows and knees. But not sure if there are more in shoulders, hip, or torso area, as they were covered by the black body suit.

[mpchi]

Here is more pics of my dismantled Raiden. :p

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4683.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4685.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4686.jpg

As you can see, I shaved off all the excessive rubber on the arm that used to tug inside the torso rubber suit at the armpit, as well as all the messy bits with glue and torn bits. The arm rubber sleeves are now fully separated, and you can see it revealing a gap showing the black inner cloth suit underneath. Definitely not as pretty as Raiden used to be when stock. The trade off is to let you fix up the ridiculous loose joints inside, as well as the ability to do this:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4687.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4688.jpg

Here is a close up on the paint damage after you rip the legs off (even when I did it really slow and carefully). The rubber just won't tear clean at some spots.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4689.jpg

And here, the horror of the Medicom Assembly Line... With these junk and scotch tape wrapping the thigh and knees, how do you expect the knee to bend? Not to mention all the adjustable screws were not tightened...

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4692.jpg

One last thing. If your wrist look like the one on the right below (Raiden's left arm), its more likely your hand peg won't lock in place like it should, and/or lose some wrist articulation. Its meant to look like the wrist on the left (Raiden's right arm) where the inner body wrist sits flush with the rubber sleeve. And of course, they didn't assemble it correctly on both of my Raiden's arms. And took me a while to figure out, after taking the figure apart, and realized the hands do lock in place, but only when it has enough clearance from the rubber arm sleeve at the wrist. All you need is to push the sleeve up bit by bit (need to use a little force) until you manage to nudge the sleeve to flush with the wrist inside. It will sit tight and stay put, without slipping back in.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4680.jpg

Not sure if you really want to do what I did to Raiden. Not really something I would recommend per se, unless your Raiden joints are so loose like mine that he can't pose at all, and don't mine messing up his looks a bit. I do have a jacket for Raiden (will tailor it to better fit), so that helps cover up most of the flaws. And Raiden can be a much sturdier and more poseable figure, with some sacrifices.

[mpchi]

Put Raiden back together finally, and managed to take a couple pics before the camera ran out of battery. While flawed on the joint seams with some messy spots, the joints are all tight and sturdy, and I just used some cotton balls to fill up the thigh a little so its less hollow, and overall feels very nice and quite playable. Lower body articulation still limited, as the hip rubber seam is just way too restrictive no matter what you do. But the upper body is awesome and very poseable.

I doubted any unmodded Raiden can pose like this.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4710.jpg

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[Alice Adrenochrome]

Wow! That's some pretty brave and profound changes you have made there! The result proves you right though. I think I better not mess with my Raiden, although he could use it: the joints are so loose, he holds no pose at all.
As cool as Raiden looks, the figures is far from perfect. I recently bought a couple of older Medicom figures, dated 2000 & 2001. While the plastic is very brittle, and needs to be handled with care, both figures convince me more that Raiden does. When a figure looks cool, but the poseability is gone, that's not really a leap ahead it seams.:monkey2

[mpchi]

Wow! That's some pretty brave and profound changes you have made there! The result proves you right though. I think I better not mess with my Raiden, although he could use it: the joints are so loose, he holds no pose at all.
As cool as Raiden looks, the figures is far from perfect. I recently bought a couple of older Medicom figures, dated 2000 & 2001. While the plastic is very brittle, and needs to be handled with care, both figures convince me more that Raiden does. When a figure looks cool, but the poseability is gone, that's not really a leap ahead it seams.:monkey2

When it comes to Medicom, they made very little effort to improve on their figures. Even though most of us called Raiden's a rubber suit, its really a soft vinyl suit, not much different from all the gloves and boots Medicom made for other figures. Just a much bigger sleeve that cover a big part of the body. There is no stretchiness AT ALL! Of course the figure is not gonna pose well. Then as I pointed out before, the QC totally trashed this figure. They built the nice screws system (versus the stupid outdated metal pin hinges that only used in cheap action figures) in their new RAH body on Snake & Raiden, but the assembly line never bother to tighten them... Then you look at Hot Toys with the 2 recent Batman releases. Even the Begins & the TDK suit have different rubber suit material, with the TDK even stretchier than the already very good Begins suit. And their releases are only a couple months apart. Medicom on the other hand didn't care to look for improved material to solve the poseability issue. Then let the QC to worsen the problem, and feel totally fine with it. :D

I still like Medicom stuff mind you, but will only buy their stuff if its something exclusively from them, and something to die for.

[terryvad]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4710.jpg


This picture rock !!! :monkey5

I will post some pics of myne ASAP after have find this Spike Coat

[mpchi]

Did some refinement on my previous quick paint job on the eyes, now that Raiden is back in one piece. Gave him a little bit more skin tone on his face too.

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http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/mpchi/Toys%202/IMG_4714.jpg

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Face looks awesome!

[terryvad]

The Face is very accurate, that's so Raiden, great repaint mpchi ! :cool:

Have you a little tutorial for do same thing on myne ? :monkey3
(now on your fault I can't look my Raiden like before^^)

[mpchi]

The Face is very accurate, that's so Raiden, great repaint mpchi ! :cool:

Have you a little tutorial for do same thing on myne ? :monkey3
(now on your fault I can't look my Raiden like before^^)

Don't have a tutorial per se, but I can tell you what I used.

Very fine point model Paint Brush - You need to be very precise on painting, since the eyes are so small. A tiny difference can totally change the 'stare' of the eyes.

A Dental Tool (the one with a skinny wire hook tip) - Very handy to make minor corrections or smudge away a crooked line before paint dries. Its not as sharp as a needle or push pin so won't scrape the surface, but still give you a very fine tip for any corrections.

Model Master Acrylic (white & red) - Obviously for the eye white, covering all the unwanted lower eyeline or the strong red on Raiden's eyes. Then mix a little red and white to get a pink, for the corners of the eyes. Though make sure you use as few brush stroke as possible. The more strokes you used and try correcting your paint, the rougher the painted surface will dried into.

Gundam Marker (Super Fine Grey) - Super skinny permanant marker to reshape the lashes where you want solid dark lines. Also good for the iris outline, if you reshaped the iris to be smaller, and need a new outline around it.

Real Touch Gundam Marker (Light Grey) - Used to feather out the lashes as Real Touch Gundam Markers are water soluble, and doesn't dry permanant. So you can smudge and feather out areas you don't want to have a 100% solid grey line. They dry somewhat transparent, unless you keep drawing over and over on the same spot to build up the darkeness. Also used this to darken the blue eyes of Raiden, without losing the blue colors completely.

Pastel Chalk (Black & a flesh tone Brown) - Use another small brush and brush on some pastel chalk on areas of the face that adds color to make him look more natural. Treat it like putting make up on. But always go light. Its easy to keep adding more when its not enough, but messier if you put too much and want to wipe some off. But if you really messed it up, just dip a drop of water and wash it off with your brush.

Takes a steady hand, some patience, and experimenting. But really not that hard.

[terryvad]

I will probably received my Black coat in next days, I will post pics ASAP.

By the way thanks mpchi for your excellent tutorial, too bad I'm not a good painter^^
Don't hesitate to post any other pics of your Raiden.

[terryvad]

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Some pics with the Sideshow spike coat received last week. ;)
(at last^^)

[Amanaman]

Now that's a good coat.. where did you get it from? Edit: nevermind, I got it :monkey3