So...no new LOTR PF?

[SolidLiquidFox]

What gives? :confused:

[tomandshell]

Maybe next year!

:rotfl

There are two in development. I guess they just aren't ready yet.

:monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2

[RoboDad]

Nope. Shame, too. Frodo (who just arrived today) is an amazing piece, but I guess people (Sideshow customers, anyway) aren't interested in LOTR right now.

[The Josh]

I expect one soon. I really do.

[Darth Loki]

I thought for sure we'd get our next announcement this week. I can't put my disappointment into words right now.

[Sir Tristram]

I expect one soon. I really do.
They need it soon...Or the interest (and people's MONEY) will simpy be gone...Elsewhere!

[RoboDad]

I can't put my disappointment into words right now.
I can. It sucks. Big time.

Give me something to buy, Sideshow! I'm wavin' my wallet at you, for pete's sake!

[Darth Loki]

Dusty just said that of the two being worked on, one is a male, the other female.

So..... Arwen, Eowyn, or Galadriel?

[The Josh]

They need it soon...Or the interest (and people's MONEY) will simpy be gone...Elsewhere!

I agree. We need something and I think it will be soon.

[Sir Tristram]

Dusty just said that of the two being worked on, one is a male, the other female.

So..... Arwen, Eowyn, or Galadriel?
Any of those beautiful ladies will do just fine! :monkey5

[tomandshell]

Let's remember that we were not promised a PF at Toy Fair.

But it's been a long, dry year for those expecting LOTR PF #3. I honestly expected it to be revealed this week. But no such luck. I know that we will get one eventually--but I had so many ideas of what different releases we might see in this line, and I am starting to realize that I will never see most of them produced at this rate. I am coming to terms with the fact that this will not be a huge and thriving line. I mean, I'm glad for the Legend/Darkness fans and the people who wanted a second Buffy PF. But I really wish they could have devoted a bit more time to getting us a new LOTR PF just in time for the one year anniversary of Frodo's reveal.

[SolidLiquidFox]

They need it soon...Or the interest (and people's MONEY) will simpy be gone...Elsewhere!

Two Words: Gentle Giant

[The Josh]

Dusty just said that of the two being worked on, one is a male, the other female.

So..... Arwen, Eowyn, or Galadriel?

Will be passing on the female. Will get the male.

[Sir Tristram]

Two Words: Gentle Giant

For me: Master Replicas

[carbo-fation]

That's sad indeed! I am still hoping for an anouncement next week!

[darth dypshyt]

For me: Master Replicas

Cinemaquette

[Seretur]

Dusty didn't say male and female, she said a boy and a girl.

So it's either...

a) PETER JACKSON'S KIDS (FOTR version regular, TTT the exclusive, ROTK the SDCC exclusive), or

b) ÉOTHAIN AND FREDA ON GARULF.

:banana :banana :banana :banana :banana

[Darth Loki]

Will be passing on the female. Will get the male.


Me too. I can't imagine getting a single female in this line. I love Eowyn, but not enough to have two of her (already own the poly) and the Elven women just weren't a big enough part of the experience for me to justify a PF.

[tomandshell]

If I began writing a list of my most wanted characters in the PF line, I don't think that a female would be anywhere in the top ten.

[SolidLiquidFox]

I am still waiting for that Aragorn or GTG that's going to make me take the LOTR PF plunge. I was REALLY looking forward to TF bringing me that piece. I guess that's why I am so disappointed.

There is always SDCC.

[The Josh]

A Gandalf PF would be nice for sure.

[Sir Tristram]

I thought they originally said that the entire Fellowship would be made into PF form....at this point we'll be lucky if ONLY that many happen!

I am hoping for Theoden adn Eomer in Armor still though!

[Darth Loki]

If I began writing a list of my most wanted characters in the PF line, I don't think that a female would be anywhere in the top ten.


I agree. When I got Frodo, I was trying to think of all the characters I'd want from this line and no female ever popped into my head. If they nail the likeness on an Arwen, I may bite, but it'd have to be perfect.

[Sir Tristram]

See that's funny...In the book, Galadriel was one of my favorite characters...and Cate Blachett is not only an amazing actor, but I think she is gorgeous!
I would buy ALL three if they made them....then again, I am most likely going to buy ALL of the LOTR pf's no matter what anyway, so... :o :p

[Darklord Dave]

Galadriel would be in my top 5 or even top 2. 2 versions of her in PF - dark and light. It is really disappointing that we haven't had a new announcement in a year now? Maybe at One Ring Celebration?

[The Josh]

Galadriel would be in my top 5 or even top 2. 2 versions of her in PF - dark and light. It is really disappointing that we haven't had a new announcement in a year now? Maybe at One Ring Celebration?

Maybe that would be nice

[Sir Tristram]

Galadriel would be in my top 5 or even top 2. 2 versions of her in PF - dark and light. It is really disappointing that we haven't had a new announcement in a year now? Maybe at One Ring Celebration?
I hope so...Keepin gmy fingers crossed!

[RoboDad]

I'll be buying the female, without question. With only 3 real choices, I am confident that it will be a character I like. :)

[SideshowDusty]

There is always SDCC.

And the 5 months in between :D Every year at TF it seems that we have to remind people that we don't hold ALL of our big announcements for the events - we have to have something to put in our weekly newsletters after all ;) :duff

[The Josh]

And the 5 months in between :D Every year at TF it seems that we have to remind people that we don't hold ALL of our big announcements for the events - we have to have something to put in our weekly newsletters after all ;) :duff

Yeah, we as collectors need to learn patience. I know I do. :lol

[Seretur]

Either Arwen, Galadriel, or Éowyn would be way up high in my list of choices.

Éowyn, because she's my favorite character in the book, only (possibly) topped by Gandalf.

Arwen, because Liv Tyler is everything I find beautiful in a woman.

And Galadriel, because Cate Blanchett is an Elven Queen in real life too.

Out of the three, I would guess Éowyn and Arwen offer more costume possibilities beyond their SS/W polystone counterparts... and I'll pick Arwen as the one with the most stunning robes, overall.

:joy :joy :joy

[Darth Loki]

And the 5 months in between :D Every year at TF it seems that we have to remind people that we don't hold ALL of our big announcements for the events - we have to have something to put in our weekly newsletters after all ;) :duff

Please tell me this is your way of telling us we won't have to wait another 5 months.

So what can you tell us about the male character that's in the works? :monkey3

[gtb]

:lol Dusty didn't say male and female, she said a boy and a girl.

So it's either...

a) PETER JACKSON'S KIDS (FOTR version regular, TTT the exclusive, ROTK the SDCC exclusive), or

b) ÉOTHAIN AND FREDA ON GARULF.

:banana :banana :banana :banana :banana

:lol :lol :lol

So any other kids you can think of?? Perhaps Arwen's son?? Or those sitting around Bilbo listening to his stories?? :rotfl

[Seretur]

Well, the kids listening to Bilbo's story would be the FOTR regular version.

And Arwen's son would be a GREAT exclusive! (So would Figwit, actually...)

[Bonehead15]

Glad I dropped this line before Lurtz shipped.

This line line has a lot of potential but it seems that ther isn't much comming anytime soon. It's a shame.

[gtb]

Well, the kids listening to Bilbo's story would be the FOTR regular version.

And Arwen's son would be a GREAT exclusive! (So would Figwit, actually...)

What is his name anyway? I mean Arwen son...

[Fritz]

And the 5 months in between :D Every year at TF it seems that we have to remind people that we don't hold ALL of our big announcements for the events - we have to have something to put in our weekly newsletters after all ;) :duff

Yeah, we as collectors need to learn patience. I know I do. :lol

I understand all that but it's been over one year since the last Lord of the Rings Premium Format announcement. :monkey2

[The Josh]

I understand all that but it's been over one year since the last Lord of the Rings Premium Format announcement. :monkey2

I know but it sounds like we're gonna get a couple soon.

[tomandshell]

Éowyn, because she's my favorite character in the book, only (possibly) topped by Gandalf.

Actually, Eowyn topped by Gandalf is a likely candidate for the diorama line.

:naughty




And I will buy Arwen/Eowyn/Galadriel, it's just that if I had my way we would get ten other figures first.

[Seretur]

What is his name anyway? I mean Arwen son...

Eldarion. :)

Oh, and Tom? That's a brilliant sig! :banana

Even though your PF suggestion would make an even better one.

[KAOSINLA]

Disappointed...:confused: ... And, I really don't think we're being impatient. The clock is definitely ticking on this line for me

[Bannister]

Please Sideshow announce the next LOTR PF so you can take some more of my money. Don't you want my money Sideshow? All you gotta do is announce some PF LOTR and my money is yours.

[Vince]

And the 5 months in between :D Every year at TF it seems that we have to remind people that we don't hold ALL of our big announcements for the events - we have to have something to put in our weekly newsletters after all ;) :duff

So what you said in a previous topic ...

"Yes, definitely working on a couple! You know, I hear Toy Fair is just around the corner, and who knows what could happen there... I can neither confirm nor deny"

... was just to tease us ? :lol

Anyway, I just had been too long, I hope the next PF announcement will be soon and not in a few months ...

[tomandshell]

The release schedule is not set by Dusty. She may see things in development and not know exactly when they are due for release. So she neither confirms nor denies, since she really isn't in charge of choosing the proper time for the announcements and preorders. Once the decision is made to reveal a new product, the web team leaps into action. Dusty may have seen a near finished PF and assumed that it would be shown to us this month, and it turns out that they are still making some final adjustments. I don't think she knew we weren't going to see one and wanted to tease us or "toy" with us--she may have honestly thought that it might be time to show the new piece, but it just didn't work out. She doesn't enjoy manipulating our emotions...

Or does she?

:D


And Vince, I know that you weren't really accusing her of that, you just got me thinking. It's just a good reminder for all of us (myself included) who have hung a great deal of hope upon those cryptic hints that have been dropped along the way that Dusty didn't intend to mislead us, and that Sideshow didn't break a promise or anything.

[gambit]

so much disappointed again

If gentle giant will go to Polystone statue line I probably will drop SS PF's (just kidding :D )

[Vince]

And Vince, I know that you weren't really accusing her of that, you just got me thinking. It's just a good reminder for all of us (myself included) who have hung a great deal of hope upon those cryptic hints that have been dropped along the way that Dusty didn't intend to mislead us, and that Sideshow didn't break a promise or anything.

indeed I wasn't.
Seeing Dusty's post in this topic just reminded my of that earlier one...

I just hope they will bring some news soon ...

The Legendary Scale busts are nice, but it's the PF that does it for me !
And there is still lots of love for LOTR ...

[BDboystoys]

Cant wait for the next one. Just hearing that they're nearly there is enough to keep me waiting.

[woodsy]

Yeah, we as collectors need to learn patience. I know I do. :lol

After a year of absolutely nothing from the PF line I hardly think we need to learn patience...we're already experts at it!

[Bullseye]

This is hugely disappointing. I may drop this line as its just too slow.

[DannieDarKo]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay tooooooooooooooooooooooo sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooow indeed!

Bye Bye LOTR PF line! :wave

[nash]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay tooooooooooooooooooooooo sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooow indeed!

Bye Bye LOTR PF line! :wave




dont do it danny theyre still going to be flippable! :D:cool:

[The Josh]

After a year of absolutely nothing from the PF line I hardly think we need to learn patience...we're already experts at it!

I don't know I'm 25 and still learning. :lol

[DannieDarKo]

dont do it danny theyre still going to be flippable! :D:cool:


:rock :rock

Good point nash. :D

[goliath]

Dusty just said that of the two being worked on, one is a male, the other female.

So..... Arwen, Eowyn, or Galadriel?

Whatever it is, just annouce it already, will ya... and I will buy it!

[Fubeca]

Is there a LOTR PF Line? Hmmm all I remember is that GG has soooooo much LOTR stuff out there today, doesn't seem like anyone else cares...

BTW we did get a Sauron Legendary bust, it'll go great with the Sauron Statue and a Sauron Helm, and ... Wait!!!!!!!!! What do I need three Sauron Heads for???

GG is looking gooder all the time...:D

[Bullseye]

I really do think SS has dropped the ball on this one. We have yet another Star Wars one and the awesome looking Legend one and even a Buffy and Elvis one. I realise that we have SDCC coming up in July but you really need to have two announcements between then for this line to survive. And even at 2 per year we are talking a LONG time to finish the fellowship.

[woodsy]

I don't know I'm 25 and still learning.

There is of course a solution to all this. Instead of SS telling us how commited they are to the LOTR lines, and how valued we are as LOTR collectors..they can actually prove it via their actions. Would this thread even exist if it hadn't been a year between announcements?
I realize the LOTR licence is no longer the "bread and butter" at SS and that their Marvel and Star Wars licences are much more profitable. But I also know it was the SS/Weta partnership, and we as collectors, that helped to put SS where they are today. Is it asking too much from SS to give us back some of the loyalty we have given them for the past several years?
After seeing the preview of the PF Darth Maul [WOW!]I'm beginning to wonder if I'm betting on the wrong horse...and I'm not even a Star Wars fan!

[Bullseye]

Even if they told us who the next character was going to be.

[ecthelion]

it really is a shame sideshow isn't doing more with this line, could have been so great. But it just takes them too freakin' long to release the stuff. Should've previewed something for the fair...

[The Josh]

I want the next figure announced badly. As much as anyone here because like you guys I love LOTR it means a lot to me. So I'm with you guys on wanting something announced.

[Bannister]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay tooooooooooooooooooooooo sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooow indeed!

Bye Bye LOTR PF line! :wave


:monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2

[SideshowDusty]

The release schedule is not set by Dusty. She may see things in development and not know exactly when they are due for release. So she neither confirms nor denies, since she really isn't in charge of choosing the proper time for the announcements and preorders. Once the decision is made to reveal a new product, the web team leaps into action. Dusty may have seen a near finished PF and assumed that it would be shown to us this month, and it turns out that they are still making some final adjustments. I don't think she knew we weren't going to see one and wanted to tease us or "toy" with us--she may have honestly thought that it might be time to show the new piece, but it just didn't work out. She doesn't enjoy manipulating our emotions...

Or does she?

:D


And Vince, I know that you weren't really accusing her of that, you just got me thinking. It's just a good reminder for all of us (myself included) who have hung a great deal of hope upon those cryptic hints that have been dropped along the way that Dusty didn't intend to mislead us, and that Sideshow didn't break a promise or anything.

Wow, Tom, I'm not worthy :bow But you did get pretty much everything right, and I couldn't have said it better myself. And NO I don't like manipulating emotions - I only do it by accident, and then I get in trouble. It's a wonder they still keep me around ;)

[The Josh]

Wow, Tom, I'm not worthy :bow But you did get pretty much everything right, and I couldn't have said it better myself. And NO I don't like manipulating emotions - I only do it by accident, and then I get in trouble. It's a wonder they still keep me around ;)

They have to keep you around. Otherwise I would be just bugging Chris, Brant, and Corie during SDCC. :lol

[SideshowDusty]

Even if they told us who the next character was going to be.

The thing is, we can't do that either, as schedules are always changing when they're working on multiple characters at once. What if the one that was originally intended to come next doesn't get fully approved until a LONG time from now, while some other one that they are in the beginning stages of bringing to life progresses through the channels faster? All we can say is that there are big plans to do a lot of characters in the line, but sometimes it is beyond the control of the production and creative teams as to how fast they get done. We appreciate the passion though!! :duff

[The Josh]

The thing is, we can't do that either, as schedules are always changing when they're working on multiple characters at once. What if the one that was originally intended to come next doesn't get fully approved until a LONG time from now, while some other one that they are in the beginning stages of bringing to life progresses through the channels faster? All we can say is that there are big plans to do a lot of characters in the line, but sometimes it is beyond the control of the production and creative teams as to how fast they get done. We appreciate the passion though!! :duff

Bottom line is patience. We know SS isn't giving up on this line. The costumes in LOTR are some of the coolest we've seen and SS has said are some of the hardest they've done in the PF area. Not to mention NL may or may not want this guy before that one or even the way the eyes are looking changed. The factors that go into getting these out are truly more than most of us here tend to think about.

[Hoser]

I don't want to start a whole new thread to ask this question form Dusty So if I may,

Dusty can you at least confirm that new 1/6th LOTR figures are bieng worked on?

My apologies if this has already been addressed.

[Vince]

All we can say is that there are big plans to do a lot of characters in the line...


I love it when you say things like that ! :cool: :joy

[SideshowDusty]

I don't want to start a whole new thread to ask this question form Dusty So if I may,

Dusty can you at least confirm that new 1/6th LOTR figures are bieng worked on?

My apologies if this has already been addressed.

You know what, questions like these are GREAT for Ask Sideshow, as we have the production guys' full cooperation in getting questions answered during these 4 days - so feel free to submit anything that pops into your mind, and we'll see if we can get them answered and posted to the blog during the event! http://www.sideshowtoy.com/php/asksideshow.php

[ifu03612]

As my dad once said wen peeping his horn when gridlocked in traffic,

'Patience is a Virtue'

Yeah rite when it's not yourself it is!!

[KAOSINLA]

As my dad once said wen peeping his horn when gridlocked in traffic,

'Patience is a Virtue'

Yeah rite when it's not yourself it is!!


I think we're beyond virtuous and steadily moving into sainthood.

[woodsy]

Bottom line is patience.

Patience left town 6 months ago and has been replaced with frustration. Arriving soon is anger, followed by apathy.

[Bannister]

Patience left town 6 months ago and has been replaced with frustration. Arriving soon is anger, followed by apathy.
:rock:rock:rock

[SolidLiquidFox]

I always saw this line as a chance to pick up 2-3 key figures. At that scale I can't pick up minor characters like Lurtz no matter how good the sculpt is. I always laughed when people ranted and raved about getting the entire Fellowship. It would cost too much, take up too much space and the pace at which the 9 characters are released would make it unfeasible since they certainly would not be in order.

This is all before the tremendous backseat this line has taken to the more profitable SW and Marvel.

I remain on the lookout for Aragorn or GTG...

[Bannister]

I always saw this line as a chance to pick up 2-3 key figures. At that scale I can't pick up minor characters like Lurtz no matter how good the sculpt is. I always laughed when people ranted and raved about getting the entire Fellowship. It would cost too much, take up too much space and the pace at which the 9 characters are released would make it unfeasible since they certainly would not be in order.

This is all before the tremendous backseat this line has taken to the more profitable SW and Marvel.

I remain on the lookout for Aragorn or GTG...
You would think they would at least have thrown out the rest of the Hobbits just to get something out there. If they can do Frodo they can obviously do the others.

[tomandshell]

I am no longer confident that we will ever get the entire Fellowship in PF form. That was my hope for this line--I still don't have the entire fellowship in any format at all, and I wanted this to be the one in which it finally happened.

It seems so unlikely at this point.

[Bannister]

I am no longer confident that we will ever get the entire Fellowship in PF form. That was my hope for this line--I still don't have the entire fellowship in any format at all, and I wanted this to be the one in which it finally happened.

It seems so unlikely at this point.
It will happen, just not in our lifetime Tom.

[The Josh]

I am no longer confident that we will ever get the entire Fellowship in PF form. That was my hope for this line--I still don't have the entire fellowship in any format at all, and I wanted this to be the one in which it finally happened.

It seems so unlikely at this point.

It'll happen.

[Giant Chicken]

All I want is a Boromir...

[Fubeca]

...What if the one that was originally intended to come next doesn't get fully approved until a LONG time from now, while some other one that they are in the beginning stages of bringing to life progresses through the channels faster? ... :duff

Sauron *cough*

So there is a Gandalf PF coming...:monkey5

[tomandshell]

Dusty--Let's say that you guys had intended the next one to be announced a while ago but it was taking longer to get approved. So the next one in line catches up to it in the production pipeline and you have two nearly ready for preview.

Does that mean that you will just shelve the second one until a more appropriate time (even though it's ready to go) just for the sake of spacing out the announcements? Or would you put out two announcements fairly close together if they were both finished around the same time?

Without being even remotely specific or confirming or denying anything so that I don't get you into trouble, can you give a generic answer?

[Bannister]

Dusty--Let's say that you guys had intended the next one to be announced a while ago but it was taking longer to get approved. So the next one in line catches up to it in the production pipeline and you have two nearly ready for preview.

Does that mean that you will just shelve the second one until a more appropriate time (even though it's ready to go) just for the sake of spacing out the announcements? Or would you put out two announcements fairly close together if they were both finished around the same time?

Without being even remotely specific or confirming or denying anything so that I don't get you into trouble, can you give a generic answer?
I think I can safely answer this for Dusty. You just have to be patient Tom.:D

[tomandshell]

But I don't want to be patient!!

[gambit]

It'll happen.

taking into account that even frodo can not sold out at 1000 ES, I do not see any future that other 3 hobbits will be made in PF format

[Giant Chicken]

They could be made, like the Roger Moore PF, just to satisfy the fans...

Roger Moore was set at 400 peices.

[Bullseye]

I do not know how Sideshow can avert our fears that this line is coming to an end before it really had a chance to take off but I would like to see them try. Maybe a strong statement of “fact” in the next newsletter telling the fans that you will see a new PF figure and soon. There is greater possibility for this PF to look visually stunning than even the Star Wars line. Maybe this is why things are taking so long but I sure would like to get an official statement in the next newsletter reassuring me that we the LoTR PF collectors have not been forgotten.

[KitFisto]

But I don't want to be patient!!


Same here. IMHO over a year between announcements is a tad ridiculous. That's not even talking about the 6 months to a year it will be until shipping once they finally make another announcement.

It will have been a year and a half between getting Frodo and actually getting another LOTR PF in our hands. That is just ridiculous.

[goliath]

It will have been a year and a half between getting Frodo and actually getting another LOTR PF in our hands. That is just ridiculous.

While I agree with most of the comments in this thread (yes, I want another PF, too - whatever it is), your calculation of "a year and a half" seems a bit strange to me.

Dateline so far:

- Late Dec 05. Announcement of Lurtz
- Early Feb 06, Announcement of Frodo
- Early Oct 06, Shipping Lurtz
- Early Feb 07, Shipping Frodo

So let's say a new PF would be announced this month and would ship in six months from now.

Assuming that by "getting Frodo" you mean his announcement, then of course it would be true that a year and a half would have passed between the announcement of Frodo and the shipping of the new PF. But why does this timespan matter?


What we should compare is:

- Time between announcements: 2 months between Frodo and Lurtz, 12months (so far) between Frodo and "the new PF"

- Time between shipments: 4 months between Lurtz and Frodo

- Time between announcement and shipment: ~9 months for Lurtz, 12 months for Frodo

While I can live with the time between announcement and shipment, the time between announcements should drastically decrease in order to keep collectors interested in this "line"...:rolleyes:

[KitFisto]

What I am saying is that it was jsut a little shy of a year for Lurtz' announcemnt to shipping.

Frodo was a full year and we have him now. So unless another PF is announced very soon you're looking at at least a year before the next one ships since Lurtz and Frodo avg out to 11 months from announcement to shipping.

So if nothing is announced in the next couple of months and you tack on the year between announcement t o shipping you'll be getting close to a year and a half between getting Frodo in hand and the next PF in hand.

[The Josh]

taking into account that even frodo can not sold out at 1000 ES, I do not see any future that other 3 hobbits will be made in PF format

Frodo is on a second chance. Happens to a lot of products. This has no bearing on the fact it sold out but came back because of CC Declines and cancelations. The other 3 will get made as will the other members of the Fellowship.

[woodsy]

The other 3 will get made as will the other members of the Fellowship.

Well that would be the logical assumption, however, as we have all seen in the past, logic doesn't necessarily win out at the end of the day...remember Pippin!

[The Josh]

Well that would be the logical assumption, however, as we have all seen in the past, logic doesn't necessarily win out at the end of the day...remember Pippin!

Pippin? I'm guessing you're gonna go on about how Pippin in his Gondorian gear wasn't a Fellowship piece. Well, I'll beat this horse again if I must. :lol The SSW Pippin was a Fellowship piece because last I checked he was still a member of the Fellowship. No, he wasn't in Hobbit Garb but that does not make him any less a member of the Fellowship than any of the other 8.

[goliath]

Pippin? I'm guessing you're gonna go on about how Pippin in his Gondorian gear wasn't a Fellowship piece. Well, I'll beat this horse again if I must. :lol The SSW Pippin was a Fellowship piece because last I checked he was still a member of the Fellowship. No, he wasn't in Hobbit Garb but that does not make him any less a member of the Fellowship than any of the other 8.

I'd say the point that most people have a problem with is that he doesn't wear "Fellowship" gear (as in the movie "The Fellowship of the Ring"), not that he isn't a member of the Fellowship anymore, just because he's wearing Gondorian armour.

[The Josh]

I'd say the point that most people have a problem with is that he doesn't wear "Fellowship" gear (as in the movie "The Fellowship of the Ring"), not that he isn't a member of the Fellowship anymore, just because he's wearing Gondorian armour.

I guess then it all depends on how you look at it. :duff

[woodsy]

Pippin? I'm guessing you're gonna go on about how Pippin in his Gondorian gear wasn't a Fellowship piece. Well, I'll beat this horse again if I must. :lol The SSW Pippin was a Fellowship piece because last I checked he was still a member of the Fellowship. No, he wasn't in Hobbit Garb but that does not make him any less a member of the Fellowship than any of the other 8.

Do you honestly think it was the logical assumption of LOTR collectors that when we finally got a Pippin statue he would be in a Gondorian outfit??
Yes, Pippin was a memebr of the fellowship...I believe that has been well established in both the book and the movies. But the last time I looked at my SS/Weta Pippin statue box [before I sold it that is] it said Return of the King on it, not Fellowship of the Ring.
I think if LOTR collectors as a whole, considered Pippin to be a companion piece to the other hobbits it would have sold out on the SS website a very long time ago and he certainly wouldn't be selling on Ebay in the $60 range.
Unfortunately, we all now know that SS/Weta did sculpt a Pippin early on and it was supposed to be released as a Fellowship statue....so much for logic!!

[The Josh]

Do you honestly think it was the logical assumption of LOTR collectors that when we finally got a Pippin statue he would be in a Gondorian outfit??

No, I would have expected it to be in Hobbit Gear. That wasn't my point though.

Yes, Pippin was a memebr of the fellowship...I believe that has been well established in both the book and the movies. But the last time I looked at my SS/Weta Pippin statue box [before I sold it that is] it said Return of the King on it, not Fellowship of the Ring.

Well, you said it then. He was a member of the Fellowship and that's all that matters to me. I'd have loved him to be in Hobbit Gear to better match the other Hobbits. That however doesn't make the piece any less important as far as having all 9 members goes for me anyways. It doesn't have to say FOTR on it for me to put him with the other 8.

It's all good. This is just my POV on the whole subject.

[woodsy]

Well, you said it then. He was a member of the Fellowship


Then we are in agreement, Pippin was, and always will, be a member of the fellowship.
And the statue was, and always will be, absolutely terrible.....IMO

[The Josh]

Then we are in agreement, Pippin was, and always will, be a member of the fellowship.

Right! :duff

And the statue was, and always will be, absolutely terrible.....IMO

That's where we disagree. No biggie. :) :duff

[Seretur]

I love the SS/W Pippin statue. It's a small hobbit thrust in a big war, and there's nothing wrong with him being scared under such circumstances. Plus, it's got a wonderful representation of the Gondorian armor in polystone!

I know this piece isn't loved much, but for me, it's a definite keeper. :)

[woodsy]

That's where we disagree. No biggie.

What fun would there be if we all agreed on everything??

[FrodoEyes]

I love the SS/W Pippin statue. It's a small hobbit thrust in a big war, and there's nothing wrong with him being scared under such circumstances. Plus, it's got a wonderful representation of the Gondorian armor in polystone!

I know this piece isn't loved much, but for me, it's a definite keeper. :)

Yes, and I don't mind putting him with the other hobbits as, for me, it shows the two different ends of the story. Merry with his hobbit stuff on with his vegetables, laughing away and being cheeky, without a care in the world......next to Pippin, in armour, with a sword, looking terrified in the midst of battle. I love the comparison.

[woodsy]

I know this piece isn't loved much, but for me, it's a definite keeper. :)

You know what they say...beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[Seretur]

Well, yes. :)

[creature4000]

No 12" lotr either!!! :monkey4 :monkey4 :monkey2

[Fritz]

...the other 8...

9! Bill never gets any respect. :monkey2

[woodsy]

9! Bill never gets any respect. :monkey2

Rarely do midget horses ever get respect.

[goliath]

Rarely do midget horses ever get respect.


...and I always thought he was a Pony! :confused:

[Khev]

I think that as long as we get two LOTR PF announcements this year the line won't seem so stagnant. Though I've got to admit having Frodo already out of the way makes the wait a lot more bearable.

[anakin1138]

But I don't want to be patient!!

It's not the jedi way, Tom!:D

[KitFisto]

I am really starting to think we will see 1 or 2 more of these SOMEDAY, but my hopes of having the complete fellowship before the year 2567 is starting to fade. There is just no reason for it to be over a year since the last announcement.:monkey2

[Darth Loki]

I am really starting to think we will see 1 or 2 more of these SOMEDAY, but my hopes of having the complete fellowship before the year 2567 is starting to fade. There is just no reason for it to be over a year since the last announcement.:monkey2


I feel your pain bro. This has the potential to be the best line that SS has and they are just shooting themselves in the foot with this kind of delay between announcements. Because even after it's announced, we're going to have to wait at least 6 months to see it in hand.

[The Josh]

I'm sure they have a couple that are coming soon. My guess is that during R&D they may have hit a snag or two on things that would muck up a figure if they went with it as is. It sucks to be patient but I keep reminding myself it will be worth it in the end. :)

[Karma]

I think the delay will be sourcing the materials to keep the price down as LOTR costumes are very exquisite & detailed

[KitFisto]

I'm sure they have a couple that are coming soon. My guess is that during R&D they may have hit a snag or two on things that would muck up a figure if they went with it as is. It sucks to be patient but I keep reminding myself it will be worth it in the end. :)


Soon to be announced........Gimli and his PLASTIC beard and axe!

[carbo-fation]

This is getting ridiculous! How much longer do we have to wait??

[woodsy]

Must be a slow LOTR news day. Pretty sad when the only thing to discuss...is that there isn't anything to discuss! :rolleyes:

[Beruthiel]

Well, my patience is at an end. We see a new Dio line for LOTR, yet the PFs and 12 inch are going nowhere. I do believe my collecting is done now, I'm not gonna sit and dream of things that aren't there. Oh well, now I can finally get some work done around here with the money saved from no new releases. That's not such a bad thing for me, not great for SS, but oh well.

[woodsy]

Well, my patience is at an end. We see a new Dio line for LOTR, yet the PFs and 12 inch are going nowhere. I do believe my collecting is done now, I'm not gonna sit and dream of things that aren't there. Oh well, now I can finally get some work done around here with the money saved from no new releases. That's not such a bad thing for me, not great for SS, but oh well.

Haven't you read...there's been a few glitches in R&D. Perhaps SS thought they were designing components for a new space shuttle instead of some clothing for an over-sized doll. :lol

[SolidLiquidFox]

Well, my patience is at an end. We see a new Dio line for LOTR, yet the PFs and 12 inch are going nowhere. I do believe my collecting is done now, I'm not gonna sit and dream of things that aren't there. Oh well, now I can finally get some work done around here with the money saved from no new releases. That's not such a bad thing for me, not great for SS, but oh well.

I feel your frustration. I think the proper way to see the LOTR license is the same way you see anything not SW or Marvel: LOTR is one of Sideshow's "passive" lines. That's the same as the Horror line, Buffy, Musicians, Army of Darkness, Bond, etc.

Don't expect any items to come consistently for it. You just have to pick and choose a few here and there when they come out if you like them. If you plan a collection around LOTR Sideshow you'll end frustrated and waiting for a while to get all the characters you want. The only line I might expect a bit of consistency in is the dioramas since it's just getting started.

[goliath]

The only line I might expect a bit of consistency in is the dioramas since it's just getting started.

Well, couldn't you say that about the PF line as well? After only 2 figures, I would also say that this line has just started... and still, there is nothing I would call "coniststency"... :confused:

[SolidLiquidFox]

If you judge by the amount of pieces out then yeah, it's just getting started.

If you go by the amount of time since the LOTR PF line was announced then it looks a little more bleak...

[The Josh]

Giving up on these lines makes no sense. Would I love them to be coming out faster. Sure that would be freaking awesome but right now things are what they are. I'm in both lines 1:6 and PF for the long haul.

[gambit]

I believe it is our right to know if this PF line will continue or not.

There is a friend of mine asking me to sell my Lurtz exc and if the line will not continue I do not see any reason why I shall not sell him. If PF line will be dead I might continue with Diaroma but SS shall say us clearly

[Bullseye]

I've just watched "The Two Towers" tonight. I really hope we get to see the fellowship completed.

[KitFisto]

I've just watched "The Two Towers" tonight. I really hope we get to see the fellowship completed.

I am watching "Fellowship" right now. I really can't wait for the next announcement.

[darth dypshyt]

Yeah, I mean for a licence that has been fairly popular, I am surprised at the lack of a new announcement, how long has it been...a year??

[Darth Loki]

Yeah, I mean for a licence that has been fairly popular, I am surprised at the lack of a new announcement, how long has it been...a year??


We're going on our 13th month right now :rolleyes:

[ifu03612]

I believe it is our right to know if this PF line will continue or not.

There is a friend of mine asking me to sell my Lurtz exc and if the line will not continue I do not see any reason why I shall not sell him. If PF line will be dead I might continue with Diaroma but SS shall say us clearly

There is no chance of SS doing this. They are still trying to sell Lurtz and Frodo, also the secondary market prices would plummet on these if they did. Not that i'm that bothered though cos these are keepers for me either way

[goliath]

There is no chance of SS doing this. They are still trying to sell Lurtz and Frodo, also the secondary market prices would plummet on these if they did. Not that i'm that bothered though cos these are keepers for me either way

Why do you think Sideshow would care about secondary market prices plummeting?

[ifu03612]

Why do you think Sideshow would care about secondary market prices plummeting?

No I was meaning from the perspective of the collector, I was meaning that sideshow would only care about not selling the rest of their stock.

[dasciutto]

Is this real the end of all things ?????

[woodsy]

Is this real the end of all things ?????


I don't think this is the end, just the reality that LOTR is now a second tier license as far as SS is concerned.

[Vince]

Is this real the end of all things ?????

I don't think this is the end, just the reality that LOTR is now a second tier license as far as SS is concerned.



why so negative?
I'm sure once they will announce more PF's suddenly a lot of opinions will turn ...

I'm pretty sure they will deliver us some magnificent statues !

[dasciutto]

why so negative?
I'm sure once they will announce more PF's suddenly a lot of opinions will turn ...

I'm pretty sure they will deliver us some magnificent statues !


I hope so, i hope so.
Else my new collectible room is empty.

[woodsy]

why so negative?
I'm sure once they will announce more PF's suddenly a lot of opinions will turn ...

I'm pretty sure they will deliver us some magnificent statues !

What exactly was so negative about my comment :confused: . Star Wars and Marvel are the big licenses with SS these days, LOTR is not. You need proof? Take a good look at the various products coming out of those two lines and the speed at which they sell out. Now compare that with LOTR products...quite a difference, isn't there!
My comment was not positive or negative, it was a realistic observation based on the evidence at hand.

[The Josh]

Star Wars has had a lot of 1:6. The PF are only a few. Marvel has had very few PF and mostly comicquettes/dioramas. All these are difficult pieces to make but the costumes I would guess are easier than the LOTR ones.

[dasciutto]

Star Wars has had a lot of 1:6. The PF are only a few. Marvel has had very few PF and mostly comicquettes/dioramas. All these are difficult pieces to make but the costumes I would guess are easier than the LOTR ones.


And that is my reason why i will collect only LOTR.
I like the costume designs. You can see that this is the real work.

[LOTRFan]

I don't think this is the end, just the reality that LOTR is now a second tier license as far as SS is concerned.

Sadly that may be the case, and it is quite ironic too; given that LOTR (SSW) put them on the map. :monkey2

I am a reluctant collector, if things don't start to be released in a reasonable manner - I am apt to find other priorities.

[woodsy]

Sadly that may be the case, and it is quite ironic too; given that LOTR (SSW) put them on the map. :monkey2

I am a reluctant collector, if things don't start to be released in a reasonable manner - I am apt to find other priorities.

Yes, very true, but business is business and SS is going to take whatever path it needs to in order to remain successful.

For me the lack of LOTR action has been a bit of a silver lining though, as I have been able to focus on my 2nd love.....Universal Monsters, nothing from SS mind you, but some great collectibles nonetheless.

[Beruthiel]

Laminate flooring. that is where my collecting dollars are now going. Atleast I know I will have a complete floor and not an incomplete bunch of statues with those dollars.

[woodsy]

Laminate flooring. that is where my collecting dollars are now going. Atleast I know I will have a complete floor and not an incomplete bunch of statues with those dollars.

You know, you might be on to something...my wife's been bugging me to changed the flooring in the kitchen for a while now....

[Naugladur]

There are about 15 people squacking for the entire fellowship...and that's as many as they'd sell. You want to kill this line quick, make some more hobbits. Maybe Josh will buy them all.

[woodsy]

There are about 15 people squacking for the entire fellowship...and that's as many as they'd sell. You want to kill this line quick, make some more hobbits. Maybe Josh will buy them all.

I think if you were to ask any of the retailer's who post on this forum, they would tell you the bad guys traditionally sell much better than the good guys. I too believe this line would go right down the :Flush if SS were to concentrate mainly on fellowship characters. Personally, I would like to see a ratio of 3 bad guys to every 2 good guys. The only downside to this is that most of us will be dead and buried by the time the fellowship is completed, at the rate SS is producing these pieces. :rolleyes:

[LOTRFan]

The next two PFs are almost certainly "goodies," if what I have heard holds up.

[goliath]

The next two PFs are almost certainly "goodies," if what I have heard holds up.

So what did you hear? Do share... :stick

[woodsy]

The next two PFs are almost certainly "goodies," if what I have heard holds up.

Other than the legendary scale Sauron bust I intend to purchase [and not directly from SS], I guess they won't be seeing any more of my money this year.
Do you know which good guys we can expect to see?

[choopie]

I've decided against buying the 12" and I have no interest in the dios or legendary scale busts. I'm just sitting back and waiting to see what Sideshow does with the PF line. However, I know what pieces I'd like to see made in this format, and at the rate Sideshow is going, I'll never see them. So, suffice to say, my LOTR collection is probably at an end.

I've wanted to build a small PF movie collection, so this continued LOTR delay allows me to focus on that. Beyond that, whatever money I would have had for collectibles is going into the savings account.

[The Josh]

The next two PFs are almost certainly "goodies," if what I have heard holds up.

Indeed :chew

[gambit]

I believe it is not so strategically correct to have 4 LOTR lines when it has passed so much time over the movie regardless of hardcore fans.

- 12" series
- legendary busts ( I never like these BTW)
- PF line ( the greatest line of LOTR ever imo)
- Diaromas ( I did not like the first diorama so fanatically , so not sure about this line as well. need to see further pieces to decide

Sideshow shall cancel one line at least and give priority and spend efford to others imo

[carbo-fation]

I can understand why sideshow would want to expand the LOTR into different lines, however, I really have a hard time understanding why it's taken them 13+months for a new PF release? It shouldn't take them this long to figure out how to properly mass produce certain characters. The next PFs better be near perfect to make all this wait worth-while!