Sauron Legendary Scale Bust

[tomandshell]

New LOTR is a Sauron Bust.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/behindtheshow/?page_id=2588

[customizerwannabe]

Sauron is great bust, but it's release so early in the series worries me. Not much different than Morgul Lord. Are they going to do any elves or hobbits? This and morgul lord would be easy to scale up from the WETA busts and the Cave Troll was a previously produced garage kit. I would think the previous 2 had relatively low developmental costs. This one also. I could be wrong, but I'm hoping this isn't going to be the only type of busts we will see in this line. That would be a shame.

[Darth Loki]

Depending on the scale, this is one I may be tempted to get. Should go great with the One Ring.

[Sir Tristram]

Oh well, so much for a new PF! Guess that line is dead...regardless of whether they make more....waaaaay too long between releases! :rolleyes:

[RoboDad]

As I said in the "guess the pre-order" poll, this is just another

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/robodad/easy_pass.gif

[The Josh]

I called this one. In the next LSB thread I said Sauron would be cool. I'm getting this one for sure.

[RoboDad]

I've already got a Sauron helm in 1/6th scale (on the statue) and 1/4th scale. Why would anyone need a third one? It's just a helm with a bit of shoulder armor attached. There is no face to show, so how is it any different (aside from being "big")?

[The Josh]

Sauron's cool. I've got the statue but this is another way to get a cool piece. Nothing wrong with that. I don't need another one but I do want this. Don't see what's wrong with doing this piece.

[tomandshell]

Well, my guess was the Balrog, so I am officially wrong.

[RoboDad]

Well, there's nothing wrong with doing it, it's just that there are other busts that could also have been made, and I would rather have seen something else. Gandalf or Saruman would have been better choices for me.

I just have zero interest in yet another Sauron helm.

[The Josh]

That's fine. That doesn't make it a bad choice overall though. Just for you. :)

[RoboDad]

True, but does anyone else really matter?



;)

[Darth Loki]

Why the hell have we had 3 legendary scale busts since the last PF announcement? I'm getting seriously frustrated with SS and this line.

[FlyAndFight]

Nice looking bust but I don't collect this line. I'm guessing a Lurtz bust is just around the corner.

And like RoboDad, I've already got the statue and the 1/4 bust.

[carbo-fation]

Hmm...I wish they'd done a Balrog or a Nazgul. There are already plenty of Sauron Busts on the market.

[RoboDad]

I just keep waiting for something in the legendary bust line that will make me want to jump in, but so far, they are batting a solid .000. Maybe some time if I can find a good enough deal on the Troll I might get one, but since I already have the SSW Troll bust, even that isn't offering much of a compelling reason.

[tomandshell]

Why the hell have we had 3 legendary scale busts since the last PF announcement?

LOTR PFs? Is that a product line that Sideshow used to do?

[darth dypshyt]

Yeah, I was kinda hoping for a PF announcement...And while the bust looks awesome...

I think I'll pass..

[darth dypshyt]

LOTR PFs? Is that a product line that Sideshow used to do?

Yeah...It's about like that, hey Tom..:lol

[Seretur]

It is a very nice piece, for all the Sauron saturation out there.

Seems to have a way better paintjob than the pretty disappointing one on the SS/W helmet.

And they're not going to be doing any human likenesses, so this was an obvious choice, I guess!

[The Josh]

Sauron saturation? :lol

A statue, helm, and a bust and that's saturtion?

[Seretur]

Well, how many other polystone versions of just that one character can you think of?

[RoboDad]

And they're not going to be doing any human likenesses, so this was an obvious choice, I guess!
If that is an absolute certainty, then that's good news for me (well, for my wallet, at least). No humans, no legendary sale to me. :banana

[The Josh]

Well, how many other polystone versions of just that one character can you think of?

Outside of those two. None.

We have way more Gandalfs, Frodo's, and Aragorns than Sauron.

[SideshowDusty]

This bust is absolutely gorgeous. Incredible detail in the paint - it feels like Sauron is staring out at you from inside - kinda creepy actually. And a very dominating size. :ogat

I think the Legendary scale busts are focusing on the creatures at first - not sure if they have plans for human/hobbit/elf characters in this scale. Good question for Ask Sideshow!

[Darth Loki]

LOTR PFs? Is that a product line that Sideshow used to do?


Tell me about it. I actually wish I hated Frodo right now because I'd be getting out of this line. But nooooo. He had to look much better in person didn't he?

I'm just really bitter right now. I really shouldn't even consider getting this bust but it may be too great to pass up. Of course I'll go through a retailer though and save some dough.

[RoboDad]

This bust is absolutely gorgeous. Incredible detail in the paint - it feels like Sauron is staring out at you from inside - kinda creepy actually. And a very dominating size. :ogat

I think the Legendary scale busts are focusing on the creatures at first - not sure if they have plans for human/hobbit/elf characters in this scale. Good question for Ask Sideshow!
I'm sure it is, Dusty, but for me it doesn't offer anything significantly different from the 1/4 scale helm (other than a bit of shoulder armor, and a larger size). The reality is that there is no face inside the helm, so the bust is nothing more than empty armor. That just doesn't do anything for me.

[Seretur]

Actually, the "no humans" rule applies to the SW 1:1 line, right?

I got a bit confused there, sorry. :)

Oh, and Robo? Should there even BE a face inside that armor? Seeing as how Sauron just escaped from Númenor a few years prior to that. I don't have my books with me -- was he fully incarnate by the time of the Battle of Last Alliance? I honestly can't remember.

(Better. Paintjob. Than. The. Helm. Way better.)

[Darth Loki]

Sauron saturation? :lol

A statue, helm, and a bust and that's saturtion?


Kinda like a 12", a life size bust, and PF :maul :D

[The Josh]

Kinda like a 12", a life size bust, and PF :maul :D

Darth Maul is the schiznit baby!! :lol

[Darth Loki]

Darth Maul is the schiznit baby!! :lol


HEY, we actaully agree on something :lol

[customizerwannabe]

No doubt I'm getting it as I own no WETA pieces, but I still would love an elve or a hobbit. Now I really doubt they'll be making any.

[The Josh]

HEY, we actaully agree on something :lol

It's a day to celebrate then. :)

[woodsy]

This bust is absolutely gorgeous. Incredible detail in the paint - it feels like Sauron is staring out at you from inside - kinda creepy actually. And a very dominating size.

I must say I was hoping for a Balrog or Ringwraith bust, but Sauron suits me fine. Though I never intended on collecting the legendary scale busts I was really impressed with the scale and quality when I saw one for the first time. I have no doubt Sauron will look amazing up close and personal.

[Fritz]

I'm sure it's going to be very cool but it reminds me of the Sauron Helm by UC in that it's a large scale Sauron head. Since I'm not collecting the Legendary Scale bust line I guess it just means there's another Marvel PF I can spend my money on since it seems that there is no love for LotR PF at Sideshow. :monkey2

[The Josh]

Sauron QTVR (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/mov_qtvr/9220-QTVR.mov) Looks really amazing!!

[customizerwannabe]

Looks kinda skinny to me. Like a pencil neck.

[Deadly Dagger]

I've got the Sauron statue (love it)...helm (love it) and mace (love it)...but thats all I need...still considering the ML tho...I still would have prefered an Orc. :monkey2

[KAOSINLA]

I've been debating the ML Bust for a while....This release now makes my decision easier....Sauron and ML it is.:D

[Badvermin]

I've got the Sauron statue (love it)...helm (love it) and mace (love it)...but thats all I need...still considering the ML tho...I still would have prefered an Orc. :monkey2

I've got the statue and the UC Helm.

I think I'm going to sell the UC helm on ebay and pic this bad boy up...as long as my girlfriend can live with it (she bought me the helm for x-mass last year). I don't have the room for all three, and this look much nicer.

[nash]

Looks kinda skinny to me. Like a pencil neck.

i had the same impression. but the detailing looks awesome. just dont like how scrawny he seems.

[customizerwannabe]

Yep. Detailing is very nice, but it just doesn't look right overall. This will definitely be an aftermarket purchase after the header the first 2 have taken. If I'd bought them at SS retail I'd be pissed.

[WrathofSauron]

Not sure about this, yes it looks great and as usual in person it will be stunning!! But having just done the ML I thiink this is a bit samey and perhaps an Orc or Balrog or better still a human/wizard/elf might have been a better choice. Maybe its just easier to avoid trying to sculpt the "real" expressions of a human face on this scale as they could run into the usual "it doesn't look remotely like him" barrage from collectors, who knows? I am undecided on this one but then I say that about them all and I still have an attic crammed full of "undisplayed cos of no room" statues!!
Now enough Legendary stuff and lets have that sweet LOTR PF NOW!! We know its coming so stop the torture SS and let the world know!!! :D

[woodsy]

This will definitely be an aftermarket purchase after the header the first 2 have taken. If I'd bought them at SS retail I'd be pissed.

Definitely an aftermarket purchase. I saved $200 on the 1st two busts by purchasing them elsewhere. Other than the exclusives, I'm not really sure why anyone would buy LOTR products directly from SS these days?

[The Josh]

Sauron was actually kind of skinny anyways. So this looks to be pretty accurate.

[Asura]

Definitely an aftermarket purchase. I saved $200 on the 1st two busts by purchasing them elsewhere. Other than the exclusives, I'm not really sure why anyone would buy LOTR products directly from SS these days?

Theres never been a LOTR Ex. But yeah, it's much cheaper to buy these things in the aftermarket since they go for so much less.

I'm disapointed they went with Sauron :( . He dose look a little skinny..

I guess they're gonna make L.Busts out of all the Weta Statues :rolleyes: ;P

[the angry orc]

i like it. it will probably be the first legendary scale bust i pick up.

[Seretur]

Sauron was actually kind of skinny anyways. So this looks to be pretty accurate.

http://arwen-undomiel.com/sc/fotr/P-ORtRTA/P-ORtRTA019.jpg

Yeah, kind of... Not! :D

[WrathofSauron]

Isn't Sauron originally ELF kind anyway? They're all a slender bunch I thought!!:lol :rotfl

[woodsy]

Theres never been a LOTR Ex. But yeah, it's much cheaper to buy these things in the aftermarket since they go for so much less.



I was referring to all LOTR products such as the exclusive PF Lurtz [of which I have #08] and to the 12" figures available.

[The Josh]

http://arwen-undomiel.com/sc/fotr/P-ORtRTA/P-ORtRTA019.jpg

Yeah, kind of... Not! :D

Really?

The bust looks to be pretty accurate on this pics of Sala in the out for a promo.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2980/1sauron1024768xf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[The Mike]

I skipped the other two but depending on the price I might get this one. Now of course I say this not owning the 1/4 Helmet or the 1/6 Statue....

[noelleon69]

yeh last i recalled, sauron wasn't buffed up in the first place. so i'm still fine with how they made it. :)

[Beren]

I skipped the other two but depending on the price I might get this one. Now of course I say this not owning the 1/4 Helmet or the 1/6 Statue....

Exactly!! For someone who didn't get into the SSW line and doesn't have the 1/6 statue or the 1/4 helm, this would be a great choice. But I do have those two (and the Sauron Mace). Plus there's the 1:1 Sauron Helm from UC!! Yeah, there's the added shoulders and bit of chest with the SS one but there are so many more choices that could have been made. Ugggh.

And is anyone else here starting to think that Josh is on Sideshow's payroll!!?? Come on, be less blatant. :D

Pass.

Beren

[The Josh]

I'm just giving my opinion. Showing off why I think the way I do. :rolleyes:

[woodsy]

Plus there's the 1:1 Sauron Helm from UC!!

Beren

At one point, I owned the UC Helm of Sauron. Now I obviously haven't actually seen this new bust personally but from the images I have seen it appears to be much more detailed. The UC helm isn't even in the same ballpark.

[nash]

Looks just a tad different around the neck area. Not sure what it's missing, but the movie photo seems like it has extra armor there?


http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2781/untitled2tp2.jpg

[Fubeca]

Sure wish they could get the spikes straight on the helmet. My Helm is really bad...

[nash]

actually its the same as the SSW statue now that I look at them both.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Isn't Sauron originally ELF kind anyway? They're all a slender bunch I thought!!:lol :rotfl

He was no Elf. He was a Maia from the race of the Ainur.

I like the bust. Should look fantastic next to the Morgul Lord. Perhaps I get both some day, but not now. There are to many 12" I have to order! :D

[Deadly Dagger]

Is it me or is Sauron not centered with the plaque? Looks like he is turning. While it does look impressive...imagine if they did a Lurtz...would put the sideshow/weta bust to shame. :monkey5

[Bannister]

Really?

The bust looks to be pretty accurate on this pics of Sala in the out for a promo.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2980/1sauron1024768xf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Watch out *****es. Josh is breaking out the comparison pics. This won't end well.

[Bannister]

Is it me or is Sauron not centered with the plaque? Looks like he is turning. While it does look impressive...imagine if they did a Lurtz...would put the sideshow/weta bust to shame. :monkey5
Lurtz would be awesome!!!

[The Josh]

Looks just a tad different around the neck area. Not sure what it's missing, but the movie photo seems like it has extra armor there?


http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2781/untitled2tp2.jpg

I noticed that. I don't know what that thing is.

[The Josh]

Watch out *****es. Josh is breaking out the comparison pics. This won't end well.

:lol :lol :lol

[nash]

josh is it something for his cape? but if so, the SSW statue has the cape and still doesnt have that extra armor. Im confused.

[Bannister]

:lol :lol :lol
Let me be the first to say, the likeness is uncanny.:rotfl

[Bannister]

josh is it something for his cape? but if so, the SSW statue has the cape and still doesnt have that extra armor. Im confused.
:huh :huh :huh

[woodsy]

Looks like a whole row of spikes is missing on either side of his neck.

[FlyAndFight]

It appears that the movie pic was some kind of prototype and not the final design used in the film. Even the helm is different.

[The Josh]

josh is it something for his cape? but if so, the SSW statue has the cape and still doesnt have that extra armor. Im confused.

I don't know honestly. I'd have to do some research to find out.

[The Josh]

Here's a pic of the costume from the tour.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2571/3804hs6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[woodsy]

The bust does seem to look just like the statue.

[LOTRFan]

Here's a pic of the costume from the tour.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2571/3804hs6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

If that is the actual scree-used costume, than EVERYTHING previously released including the new bust is off. :confused: The shoulder spikes being the most noticeable.

I wish that SS would release items that didn't totally ignore the previous line of polystone that they offered. The cool sales can largely be attributed to saturation of characters that many of us are already glutted with. It would be interesting to see just how many collectors are so-called veterans, that is, those who have been collecting since the "Weta days;" and how many are just now picking up LOTR. For those newer to LOTR, these are likely welcome announcements.

[gideon]

Depending on the price - I am 90% in on this one. When I saw the exhibit in Boston the one piece I wanted more than anything from the show was the full size Sauron. It just took your breath away. This is the next best thing. I did NOT buy either the Morgul Lord (too much just a helm) or the Cave Troll (I would greatly prefer a troll with some armor and costume) but this one has my interest.

[The Josh]

I wish that SS would release items that didn't totally ignore the previous line of polystone that they offered. The cool sales can largely be attributed to saturation of characters that many of us are already glutted with. It would be interesting to see just how many collectors are so-called veterans, that is, those who have been collecting since the "Weta days;" and how many are just now picking up LOTR. For those newer to LOTR, these are likely welcome announcements.

You just don't ignore characters because of other lines. If you start doing that no line will be successful overall.

[The Dwimmerlaik]

Im dissapointed i was thinking the next one was the Balrog,im not getting this neither the other i only want the Balrog

[woodsy]

Im dissapointed i was thinking the next one was the Balrog,im not getting this neither the other i only want the Balrog

I too was hoping for the Balrog, but having been very impressed with the 1st two legendary busts I just can't pass this one up. Eventually we will get the Balrog

[Seretur]

The SRP will be $380.

Also, I'm not at all concerned with how Sauron's costume looked in promo pics, just the way he appeared in the movie, if this is a movie likeness. And in the movie, he seemed quite fat -- alarmingly so, in that shot I posted.

But that doesn't bother me as far as the character is concerned. This bust actually looks great as a representation of late Second Age Sauron -- and the detail and paintwork seem vastly superior even to the SS/W pieces. So even though it's beyond my price range, and my display space, it's a piece I can like for what it is...

[m0reta]

They posted a link to someone's video on AICN. It shows several of the new Sideshow pieces including Sauron. It's about 3/4ths in.

http://davidjr.com/toyfair2007/

Edit: Oh there's some Farmir in there too. :-)

[Seretur]

Thanks for the link, m0reta! Too bad that whoever shot this was more interested in whatever Transformers children's toy was there than in anything Sideshow.

[Bullseye]

Well, my guess was the Balrog, so I am officially wrong.

Now that I would get.:D

[woodsy]

The SRP will be $380.



Is that the official price ! Seems like an awful lot of money for a bust...no matter how impressive. Definitely an aftermarket purchase...should be available in the $260-$300 range once released. Depends on how flooded the market becomes after people cancel their orders when the edition size is finally set.

[Seretur]

Yes, that's the official SRP... And yes, they'll be going for less soon enough.

[SSC_Nerd]

Is it me or is Sauron not centered with the plaque? Looks like he is turning. While it does look impressive...imagine if they did a Lurtz...would put the sideshow/weta bust to shame. :monkey5

Yeah, the thing is though, I have the Morgul Lord bust, and he isn't looking straight ahead either. He's looking a bit to the left I think. Just becuase he isn't looking straight doesn't mean it's wrong.

[woodsy]

Yes, that's the official SRP... And yes, they'll be going for less soon enough.

WOW ! I think I am more fearful of this line going down the tubes than I am the PF. I just don't see alot of people paying big bucks for these busts, no matter how impressive they are...and they are very impressive, at least IMO.

[Darth Loki]

$380 makes this a no brainer pass for me. It will look amazing I'm sure, but there is so much Sauron stuff out there already. Not to mention you can find a full size helmet for about half that price.

[woodsy]

$380 makes this a no brainer pass for me. It will look amazing I'm sure, but there is so much Sauron stuff out there already. Not to mention you can find a full size helmet for about half that price.

Just remember, the Sauron bust will be available aftermarket for significantly less than $380. There's no way I would pay that much either, and I'm a big fan of this line.
As far a comparing this bust to the UC helm...forget it. I Had the helm and it doesn't even come close to this bust in quality.

[The Josh]

The $380 dollar asking price is most likely going to force me out of getting it. I cant do this and bits and pieces from other lines while completing the LOTR and SW 1:6th. So I guess I'm out. :(

[woodsy]

The $380 dollar asking price is most likely going to force me out of getting it. I cant do this and bits and pieces from other lines while completing the LOTR and SW 1:6th. So I guess I'm out. :(

Would you still be out if you could get for much less aftermarket?

[Boba Fett]

Looks great, but the price makes it an easy pass for me as well.

Plus, I already have the SS/Weta one, so it's all good.

[The Josh]

Would you still be out if you could get for much less aftermarket?

No, because I can't say what it might go for on the secondary level.

[Vince]

Would you still be out if you could get for much less aftermarket?

what are the current aftermarket prices for Cave Troll & Morgul Lord ?

[woodsy]

No, because I can't say what it might go for on the secondary level.

I saved about $100 apiece on the 1st two busts so I'm assuming I can get the Sauron bust for around $275 or maybe a bit less than that. Otherwise, I may have to pass on this one as well. It certainly doesn't bode well for this line.

[The Josh]

I saved about $100 apiece on the 1st two busts so I'm assuming I can get the Sauron bust for around $275 or maybe a bit less than that. Otherwise, I may have to pass on this one as well. It certainly doesn't bode well for this line.

Maybe at that price I could possibly get it. It will all depend on the timing of this piece.

[woodsy]

what are the current aftermarket prices for Cave Troll & Morgul Lord ?

The best thing to do is keep checking on Ebay. Obviously things change on a weekly basis, but that is where I obtained mine. You just have to be patient....did I really just say that....

[LOTRFan]

You just don't ignore characters because of other lines. If you start doing that no line will be successful overall.

Lurtz seems to be doing quite well, I would suspect he was picked first precisely for the reasons I stated.

[tomandshell]

They posted a link to someone's video on AICN. It shows several of the new Sideshow pieces including Sauron. It's about 3/4ths in.

http://davidjr.com/toyfair2007/

Edit: Oh there's some Farmir in there too. :-)

Just watched that video. It's kind of a shock to go right from the Ani/Obi diorama to a pastel beanie baby teddy bear display and Dora the Explorer dolls.

[Badvermin]

$380 is a pass for me as well.

I'll be waiting for a ebay deal on this one.

[The Josh]

Lurtz seems to be doing quite well, I would suspect he was picked first precisely for the reasons I stated.

Of course he was picked because of demand but you don't ignore the main guys just because they've been done in other lines. What was done in the SSW line should have absolutley little bearing on what happens with these lines. I know for me personally if they came out and said we will not be doing characters x,y,z because they have been done in other lines I would be skipping that line.

[LOTRFan]

I know for me personally if they came out and said we will not be doing characters x,y,z because they have been done in other lines I would be skipping that line.

I don't mean not doing them at all, but perhaps starting the line off with more variation.

I have little doubt that a Theoden in armor PF, or Boromir, or even a Prologue Elf would have garnered more interest than Frodo.

[The Josh]

I don't mean not doing them at all, but perhaps starting the line off with more variation.

I have little doubt that a Theoden in armor PF, or Boromir, or even a Prologue Elf would have garnered more interest than Frodo.

I agree vatiation is needed. They did that with Lurtz but I dont think you just go off on every other non-Fellowship to start a line. Gotta mix some of the Fellowship in.

Theoden would have been cool as would have Boromir but the PE would have no interest for me. The Ring Bearer means more to me.

[LOTRFan]

I agree vatiation is needed. They did that with Lurtz but I dont think you just go off on every other non-Fellowship to start a line. Gotta mix some of the Fellowship in.

Of course, and I suppose that Frodo is the "best" choice to go non-Fellowship with; I have just read a lot of the "I don't need another" Frodo type comments. Now add him to the list again with the dioramas. I think it is similar to the Marvel license, a LOT of the same characters. While some are staples - they just HAVE to be done, they are being done; and done again. I guess more than even character choice (it's hard to make clear statements about two pieces), the PF suffers from such limited supply, but that's a whole different issue.

[The Josh]

Of course, and I suppose that Frodo is the "best" choice to go non-Fellowship with; I have just read a lot of the "I don't need another" Frodo type comments. Now add him to the list again with the dioramas. I think it is similar to the Marvel license, a LOT of the same characters. While some are staples - they just HAVE to be done, they are being done; and done again. I guess more than even character choice (it's hard to make clear statements about two pieces), the PF suffers from such limited supply, but that's a whole different issue.

I understand but Frodo is the most important character in the story. IMO you have to do him early on but I understand people want more.

[Bannister]

I understand but Frodo is the most important character in the story. IMO you have to do him early on but I understand people want more.
Gollum is the most important character.:monkey5 :monkey5 :monkey5

[Bannister]

Actually Bilbo is the most important since he didn't kill Gollum.:monkey5 :monkey5 :monkey5

[The Josh]

Yeah, well you're 8. :lol :p

[gtb]

Actually Bilbo is the most important since he didn't kill Gollum.:monkey5 :monkey5 :monkey5


Going along this line, so GANDALF is the most important character, since he FOUND Bilbo, which Gandalf learns that he is the guy who didn't kill Gollum, and subsequently take the Ring from Frodo and etc etc.....

:rotfl :rotfl

[Seretur]

Are you guys crazy or something? Barliman Butterbur is clearly the most important character. He was behind the whole thing from the get-go!

:D

[NASEDO]

I thought Eowyn was the most important character, if it wasn't for her the Witchking would of killed everyone and Frodo would of been another Hobbit that failed to destroy the ring.

[woodsy]

Hey...Isn't this the Sauron Legendary Scale Bust thread??

[Vince]

The best thing to do is keep checking on Ebay. Obviously things change on a weekly basis, but that is where I obtained mine. You just have to be patient....did I really just say that....

haha
patience is indeed needed when it comes to LOTR ...

I'll check Ebay...

[noelleon69]

Here's a pic of the costume from the tour.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2571/3804hs6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

hmm... after comparing this to the statue, i can tell the spikes on this shoulders look different. the ones on the statue appears more upright while the ones in the picture appears to be tilted at a lower angle.

[The Godfather]

Sam was the most important character LOL. As far as this choice for the next Legendary its not an aweful choice sure I would have loved to see a Balrog but Sauron is awesome. As far as the line goes I see alot of people that do the sit and wait on these then when they get one its becomes well I have to have the other one now they are really alot more impressive in person then any picture can tell you. If the the Sauron is in scale with the others he is going to be huge. As far as humans I would love to see them take on theoden in helmet, Aragorn as strider with hood ect. The hobbits with part of the cloak but after selling lotr products for as long as I have the one thing I know is that Baddies will always out sell Goodies. For one the baddies are almost always creatures and thus are easier to sculpt and are better products.

[The Josh]

He looks huge in the pics. Most likely I'm going to have to pass. I will order him for now and see how money shakes out at the time but as I said yesterday at $380 or less depending on where I order from.

[woodsy]

As far as this choice for the next Legendary its not an aweful choice sure I would have loved to see a Balrog but Sauron is awesome. As far as the line goes I see alot of people that do the sit and wait on these then when they get one its becomes well I have to have the other one now they are really alot more impressive in person then any picture can tell you.

Completely agree on both points. I was shocked at how good these busts look when I saw them for the first time. Only problem I see is in the pricing. I just don't think a whole lot of people are willing to put out $380 for a LOTR bust. A few years ago...maybe. In today's market...not very likely.

[The Godfather]

Completely agree on both points. I was shocked at how good these busts look when I saw them for the first time. Only problem I see is in the pricing. I just don't think a whole lot of people are willing to put out $380 for a LOTR bust. A few years ago...maybe. In today's market...not very likely.


I agree with you on the pricing but I dont really think there is much SS would be able to do about it. I am sure a balrog would be in the same price range given the size, detail and the paint ap it would take to make it right.

[woodsy]

I agree with you on the pricing but I dont really think there is much SS would be able to do about it.

Well, they could lower the retail price to more accurately reflect the market conditions. As long as SS is comfortable with selling more of these to their retailers and less on their website that's fine with me.
I can't think of a single reason why I would order this directly from SS. I know SS has excellent customer service, but so do most of the well-established retailers I have dealt with over the years...and since they will be selling this bust for 15-20% less than SS....it's a real no-brainer for me.

[The Josh]

They can't lower it to what these are going for on ebay or whatever. I would imagine that would be a loss for them honestly unless they made the ES like 9k.

[woodsy]

They can't lower it to what these are going for on ebay or whatever.

I think if they had set the price at $299 it would have been quite reasonable, and it would probably prompt more people to purchase this item from them as opposed to going elsewhere. SS makes more money selling their products online than they do selling to their retailers so it should in fact increase their profit margin. No matter though, this isn't going to phase me one way or the other.

P.S. congrats on your PF exclusive Darth Maul [looks amazing!]. That exclusive accessory really sucks though. It's about as useful as a ....mouse droid. Certainly can't hold a candle to the PF exclusive Lurtz extras.

[The Josh]

I think if they had set the price at $299 it would have been quite reasonable, and it would probably prompt more people to purchase this item from them as opposed to going elsewhere. SS makes more money selling their products online than they do selling to their retailers so it should in fact increase their profit margin. No matter though, this isn't going to phase me one way or the other.

P.S. congrats on your PF exclusive Darth Maul [looks amazing!]. That exclusive accessory really sucks though. It's about as useful as a ....mouse droid. Certainly can't hold a candle to the PF exclusive Lurtz extras.


Yeah, they could have gone that route. Would have made it a tad easier on the pocket.

Thanks! The Probe is nice but Maul, Fett, Vader, and Obi-Wan all are not the bets characters for PF exclusives. Lurtz had one of the cooler exclusives I agree.

[woodsy]

after selling lotr products for as long as I have the one thing I know is that Baddies will always out sell Goodies. For one the baddies are almost always creatures and thus are easier to sculpt and are better products.

Bang on!! My entire LOTR collection is comprised of bad guys [except for my token Gandalf] and I just love them! If SS were to produce 2 bad guys to every one good guy [whether it be PF or LB] I would be ecstatic, although I imagine that would not be the preference of many LOTR collectors.
I have often wondered if this is why a Faramir or Eomer statue was never done. Perhaps the plans were in place, but obviously it never worked out.