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lcummins
02-10-2007, 05:53 PM
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/behindtheshow/?page_id=2605

El Roranous
02-10-2007, 05:55 PM
LAZY EYE!:emperor

El Roranous
02-10-2007, 05:57 PM
Do you have a gift card code that is worth more than $10 that you won't be needing? PM with it if you do:D

BillyBudd
02-10-2007, 06:14 PM
This is interesting. The pants look way too baggy, at least from this angle, but this still has a lot of potential. This hair style may end up looking better.

dr2red
02-10-2007, 06:25 PM
She is going to be amazing and I will order her as soon as she goes up. Love
the hair and the outfit. My first Buffy PF. I am so excited.

darth dypshyt
02-10-2007, 06:28 PM
I Like It!...:D :D :chew

BillyBudd
02-10-2007, 06:40 PM
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8388/buffypfalternate2lq3.jpg

Small pic, but lookin' good.

RoboDad
02-10-2007, 06:45 PM
All that appears to be changed is the hair and the clothes (unless she also underwent a reduction). The body sculpt looks to be the exact same pose as before. Same face, same arms.

Bonehead15
02-10-2007, 06:49 PM
From the very small pic it looks very good.

I'll probably be getting this since I was so unhappy with the firsy Buffy PF.

Darklord Dave
02-10-2007, 06:52 PM
Hair looks better - definitely same pose, same expression, more publicity shot costuming (or did she wear that outfit in an episode?).

Got to say I'd have rather had a SKIP!!!!

BDboystoys
02-10-2007, 07:03 PM
MINE MINE MINE!

So glad they did this, Spike will have a Buffy at his side:D

Serpentor
02-10-2007, 07:08 PM
interesting, I have the orignal so the question is do I need/ want another one.

BDboystoys
02-10-2007, 07:10 PM
interesting, I have the orignal so the question is do I need/ want another one.

Flip the one you have quick, this surpasses it in every way. and look at the hair!!!:D :cool:

BDboystoys
02-10-2007, 07:15 PM
wow seriously I am so impressed SS did this. Normally I wouldnt like an updated rehash of an older item, but PF Buffy needed it, the hair looks fantastic and very season 3 like.:D
This is gonna rock next to Spike.
Plus, I see a limited number coming.

EDIT: Oh god, I hope not too limited! I need this and I cant imagine missing the pre-order at school.:confused:

RoboDad
02-10-2007, 07:15 PM
Flip the one you have quick, this surpasses it in every way. and look at the hair!!!:D :cool:
How do you know that? Do you have the original? Do you have the new one?

I have the original, and contrary to what a few people have said, it is an AMAZING statue. Easily in the top three of all of the PFs I own (which is now at 15). The new one may be great, but a) the body sculpt appears to be exactly the same, and b) we haven't even seen the complete costume yet. So, for me, the best it can be is as good as the original.

BillyBudd
02-10-2007, 07:15 PM
I combined a couple images on Photoshop to come up with this...

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8695/buffypfalternate3tb8.jpg

:banana

Serpentor
02-10-2007, 07:50 PM
I couldnt sell my current Buffy PF I bought it beacuse I really liked it I think its amazing. Its also the only PF I own. I dont want the Spike PF...I dont think at least. I dont know I'd have to be really impressed by this one to order it.

Nitro
02-10-2007, 07:59 PM
I love the alternate version that they have lined up. I thought the 1st Buffy had tremondous potential, but the flaws like the lazy eye and the hair took away from the figure. I could only hope SS worked off the mistakes on the first one and take this Buffy PF Alternate version to the next level that we all know SS could do!

Fritz
02-10-2007, 09:32 PM
Why do I think this will be very limited. I'm kind of dissapointed, I was hoping for an Angel. And truth be told, I prefer this version to the one I have but I don't want two Buffys so if I get this one, I'll have to sell the current one. :(

ffl1940
02-10-2007, 11:13 PM
All that appears to be changed is the hair and the clothes (unless she also underwent a reduction).

Do you have one of the Buffy PFs? I do, and her chest is not too big!!! It's not oversized or uniboobed or whatever. It's sculpted so that when the clothing goes over it the chest looks just right, and it does. Yes, there was too much shading of the cleavage on the early prototype pics, and some pics by posters in this forum were misleading too, but I have Buffy sitting on my shelf and never once have I thought the chest looked "wrong" in size, form or whatever

I really do hope the tighten the pants on this PF. Perhaps these pants were made to be slid over the legs and the final product's pants will be sewn into place so they can be tighter.


Oh, and for all of you Chicken Little "the sky is falling" "the Buffy line is dead" "We won't see another Buffy PF" spouting folks...

:p :bunnydanc

RoboDad
02-10-2007, 11:23 PM
Do you have one of the Buffy PFs? I do, and her chest is not too big!!! It's not oversized or uniboobed or whatever. It's sculpted so that when the clothing goes over it the chest looks just right, and it does.
I do have the Buffy PF, and like it or not, the chest is (slightly) larger than SMG's. I guess we'll have to wait and see whether any alterations were done to accommodate the new outfit.

Bannister
02-10-2007, 11:32 PM
I like the way this looks from the preview pic. The hair looks really good. I will probably pick this one up.

RoboDad
02-11-2007, 12:48 AM
I am weakening. Can I explain two Buffy PFs sitting on my desk?

BDboystoys
02-11-2007, 12:55 AM
I am weakening. Can I explain two Buffy PFs sitting on my desk?

Buy it and think about the consequences later:D :cool:

BDboystoys
02-11-2007, 01:17 AM
I wonder what the excl will be? Definitely something S3-esque, Im hoping its an interchangeable arm with a different weapon like Faiths Dagger.:D
That would be just awesome.

olvidadero
02-11-2007, 01:53 AM
Oh, boy, I've slept so bad tonight, knowing that you guys would find out what the surprise Buffy product was, and I couldn't until the next morning (I live in Spain). I saw what the "big surprise" was and I have seriously mixed feelings.

I was not expecting this at all, as I gess, the 100% of the people here. I'm still confused. I feel kind of stupid for having the first PF Buffy, which I love, don't get me wrong, but a replacement? an improvement? So soon? I'm getting the new Buffy, there's no doubt, but I'm sad that we didn't get Angel or a new 12 inch figure (so sad losing you, ObsoleteMan).

On the bright side, this announcement is a proof that the line's not dead, what's more, it's a proof of the risks that SSC are willing to take with a line, it means for me entire support for it on their behalf. This reminds me of what happened the first two years. We got 3 Buffys, and lots of different characters inbetween. Now I am more sure than ever that we'll see a PF Angel somtime soon.

However, the fact that it's the same face sulpt and body pose tips the balance to the negative side. I don't see the point of making an improved PF Buffy, and not changing the pose to a more action-like one. Disappointing.

olvidadero
02-11-2007, 02:23 AM
I think this post by jmay25 on the Btvsfigs board sums it all up perfectly:

that is so NOT COOL for the fans that bought the "original edition" of the buffy premium statue.

even though the season one version was not my "definitive" version of buffy, i chose to support the line by paying the high price tag. this was in hope that the line would continue and eventually we would see premium versions of all the core scoobs as well as new sculpts of the characters showing their evolution across the series (i.e. a season 3 buffy, a gift buffy, a chosen buffy).

obviously it was a poor choice on my part because now sideshow is doing half *** "variant editions" of the same statue i already have. i'm all for a new premium edition graduation day buffy but not an "alternative edition" of the original statue announced AFTER the first one sells out.

i am happy for those of you who were smart enough to just complain about the original and then wait to purchase this new version... but i have the worst taste in my mouth right now. yuck.

I hope you don't mind the intrussion jmay! :)

TOE
02-11-2007, 02:39 AM
Buy it and think about the consequences later:D :cool:

:lol that is what i'm talking about. I may get this. Will definitely look great next to the first one. :chew

Bullseye
02-11-2007, 02:48 AM
I am so ordering this.:D Its a pity its not a new pose though.

Slayerverse98
02-11-2007, 04:43 AM
I wasn't expecting another PF Buffy so soon. I was hoping it'd be an Angel PF or one of the 12" figures. I feel sorry for those who bought the first PF Buffy because they spent alot of money when another has just been made.
I think i will be buying her because i didn't get the chance on the first PF Buffy so that's a good thing i guess. She looks like she's got the sculpt of Hush Buffy or Graduation Day Buffy, i can't really tell. Looking forward to seeing more pics of her. So far i think she looks good and more in character. Love the hair here too

olvidadero
02-11-2007, 05:15 AM
I'm glad so many people have decided to get this PF statue. That's on the bright side... let's be positive.

Slayerverse98
02-11-2007, 05:24 AM
I'm thinking about getting Spike to go with her too. Next they had better do Angel.

olvidadero
02-11-2007, 05:29 AM
I'm thinking about getting Spike to go with her too. Next they had better do Angel.

They can't NOT do Angel. That would be like reverse the logic in the universe.

Slayerverse98
02-11-2007, 05:36 AM
Yeh i know but i want him to be next and i dont want any other character before Angel. He's one i cannot miss out on

sueworld
02-11-2007, 07:56 AM
Ange would make a superb PF figure. Not to do him next would be madness.

The Slayer and her two loves would make a lovely set, and I sometimes think they forget that this line appeals to a lot of female collectors too, and so an Angel would be 'right up their street' if you know what I mean.

I'm a huge Spangel fan, and the only two PF I'd ever get is Angel and Spike. Buffy I'd happily miss on as I just dont have the funds for her, sadly.

dr2red
02-11-2007, 08:10 AM
Because I am getting the new Buffy PF I decided to get Spike Pf with Flexpay.
I think these two will look great together.

Yeah Buffy and Spike PF's

Alice Adrenochrome
02-11-2007, 08:15 AM
This new version is pretty tempting. From what we get to see, she looks much better than the original Buffy! I belive she wore that outfit in the episode when she stabbed Faith in the guts, minus the red jacket. Or in an other episode, but I'm pretty sure we've seen her wearing that outfit at some point.

FrankenFan
02-11-2007, 08:26 AM
I belive she wore that outfit in the episode when she stabbed Faith in the guts, minus the red jacket. Or in an other episode, but I'm pretty sure we've seen her wearing that outfit at some point.
IIRC, Buffy wore a short, black leather jacket during the Graduation Day smack-down with Faith, but minus the jacket, it's very similar.

This Season Three promo pic is probably the reference:

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5304/bffyrdblkan1.jpg

olvidadero
02-11-2007, 08:35 AM
I always thought that was a Season 4 promo.

Eli26
02-11-2007, 09:21 AM
I don't like it. I would have rather had another completely different PF made of Buffy with new sculpt if that was the route SideShow was going. If this is based on the Graduation Day Part 1 and 2 episodes. I don't remember seeing her hair tied back wearing this particular outfit. It's just a cheap way to sell more product.

Having said that, I prefer my Buffy's custom, because I always been a fan of hot ladies in short skirts and hooker boots. lol

Still, I should reserve judgement until I seen the final product in all of its entirety. The same could be said about all our opinions on this piece.

Eli26
02-11-2007, 09:26 AM
Also, someone had posted about the original Buffy PF having issues with that problematic ol' lazy eye. Not everyones suffered the lazy eye. In fact, I was one of the lucky guys who didn't receive a lazy eye Buffy.

Since this one shares the same face sculpt as the original, how do we know that this won't be a similar issue this time around?

FrankenFan
02-11-2007, 09:50 AM
I always thought that was a Season 4 promo.
You may be right, OIvidadero; I always associate those red leather pants with S3 and Graduation Day.

And just as a point of clarification, I'm not opining that this figure is based on that particular episode — Buffy's hair was down and she wore the aforementioned jacket. I posted that promo pic solely for the purpose of showing reference to the AE's outfit.

http://www.kurtgoldzung.com/MB/vmpr_xndr_bnnr.jpg

Bullseye
02-11-2007, 10:45 AM
IIRC, Buffy wore a short, black leather jacket during the Graduation Day smack-down with Faith, but minus the jacket, it's very similar.

This Season Three promo pic is probably the reference:

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5304/bffyrdblkan1.jpg

Its a pity they did not reposition the arms to make it different.

FrankenFan
02-11-2007, 02:09 PM
Pics of the AE from CoolToyReview.com:

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/tf2007/SSCother/image19.asp

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/tf2007/SSCother/image20.asp

http://www.kurtgoldzung.com/MB/brgbffy.gif

Slayerverse98
02-11-2007, 02:12 PM
The peson who mentioned about her eyelashes being too thick are right. I can see what they mean. There's time for changes yet so they'll probably fix it.

olvidadero
02-11-2007, 02:17 PM
At last, pictures! The hair and the face are a thing of beauty, however, the outfit is a HUGE disappointment. I can't believe I'm seriously thinking of not getting this. The top looks just like the first PF upper part of the dress, and the pants are awful... God, what a let down. oh and Spike looks awesome in the pictures, but the shirt's colour... isn't it too light? What did they do???

buffy-collector
02-11-2007, 02:19 PM
The first is much better,i loved the firsts clothes this is somthing she never wore.And its no improvment,same base,stance,boots,head,top ect they have just added some ugly baggy pants and changed the hair.

sueworld
02-11-2007, 02:33 PM
It is too light, and the coats lapels look even more weird there. Not right at all. *sigh* What are they upto?

I think this new PF Buffy looks quite poor. She's not wearing a proper outfit from the show at all. The tops all wrong, and the trousers look appalling.

TheObsoleteMan
02-11-2007, 02:42 PM
That outfit is horrible. :monkey4

It looks like they just slipped a pair of bulky pants over the dress from the first PF. I'm sure a very low edition size will ensure a sell out though.

buffy-collector
02-11-2007, 02:43 PM
Aggred sue.

Bannister
02-11-2007, 03:48 PM
The hair and face look great. The rest, not so much.

Fritz
02-11-2007, 05:18 PM
Well hopefully the edition size isn't super low so I don't miss the chance to get it.

JoeSweden
02-11-2007, 05:41 PM
I was cursing them for releasing this as I didn't want to spend more money on a variant. Now that I've seen it I give a sigh of relief. Love the hair, makes the face look all different although it's the same sculpt, but that they just cut off the dress to make a t-shirt? But they did have time to make pants? Looks great and if you didn't get the last one. Get this. But I don't think I will have both. I'll put my money on Spike as I intended.
But I will probably book it, just in case. :D :rolleyes:

Slayerverse98
02-11-2007, 05:45 PM
Pics of the AE from CoolToyReview.com:

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/tf2007/SSCother/image19.asp

http://www.cooltoyreview.com/tf2007/SSCother/image20.asp

http://www.kurtgoldzung.com/MB/brgbffy.gif


From those pics i can say that the outfit looks bad. The top style just SO doesn't fit with the leather pants. Speaking of the pants...what's wrong with them? I think they look quite good but the pose Buffy's in makes them look very odd on her. Her knees aren't facing the same way the pants are (if that makes sense)

I can also see now that it looks to be the exact same PF Buffy as the first except with new hair and an outfit change. They need to sort out the outfit or remake her pose somehow cause how she looks now i wouldn't buy her.

Is anyone else noticing her breasts are too big? As Sarah got older she seemed to shrink in that department and her breast size there doesn't look like Buffy's. More like Pamela Andersons, lol. Maybe it's the revealing top, i dunno.

Josette
02-11-2007, 05:57 PM
Same sculpt, and the top is the same as the dress, just without the skirt.

Why not release an Angel PF instead of this Buffy variant? Buffy only came out a short while ago. It seems pointless.

I will say, though, that the hair is vastly improved.

Slayerverse98
02-11-2007, 06:14 PM
It seems to be that the hair is from the season 7 episode 'Lessons'. Buffy's 'mom' hair (which i love) What do you think?

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8427/buffymonhairpfui1.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4993/bhair1ff1.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1021/bhair2bn8.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5226/bhair3pn6.jpg

Also there are actually differences in the face from the looks of it. Her face doesn't seem to be as filled out, her eyes look different and her shoes are different. Maybe it's the angle of the photo but to me her face does look different

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3240/buffysta9.gif

Anzik
02-11-2007, 06:24 PM
Personally I think SSC is inundated with Star Wars development and doesn't have the resources left to do much with the other licenses. I'm sure Andy leaving hasn't helped that either.

BillyBudd
02-11-2007, 07:11 PM
Everybody write Sideshow and ask them to change the shirt to the one below. The nice thing about this shirt is that it would cover the top of the pants...

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5304/bffyrdblkan1.jpg

xtina_slayer
02-11-2007, 07:25 PM
if someone can use phtoshop to alter the new pf
make it sleeveless and have the old pf have, then u have the exact season 4 promo

Eli26
02-11-2007, 09:11 PM
Better hair sculpt... yes, but the outfit is terrible when compared to the original.*If they redo the outfit matching more of a season 7 accurate episode outfit and thin the eye brows down...this piece would kick mondo arse!!! The problems with this piece doesn't make this an attractive piece. So glad I have the original!

BDboystoys
02-11-2007, 10:09 PM
WOW. I LOVE the new version. Definitely a must buy for me. The only thing I dont like is the shirt and how its so tucked it. But I can deal with that. The other shirt posted by BillyBudd would be far better fitting, but I suppose they just re-used the other dress and made it just a shirt.

Protozaius
02-11-2007, 10:47 PM
Boy this new Buffy PF sure is tempting... and I really think that this new Buffy would look better displayed with the PF Spike that the first one. :monkey5 :monkey5 :monkey5

darth dypshyt
02-11-2007, 10:55 PM
Yep, Gotta say it, this version is better than the first..I know there are people out there who think different, but I love this one...to me, it's more "Buffy..", with the first PF, she really only looked liked that in the 1st season..Not that there's anything wrong with that....I just think that this sculpt is more closer to what Buffy looked liked during the majority of the show..

Bannister
02-11-2007, 11:01 PM
Yep, Gotta say it, this version is better than the first..I know there are people out there who think different, but I love this one...to me, it's more "Buffy..", with the first PF, she really only looked liked that in the 1st season..Not that there's anything wrong with that....I just think that this sculpt is more closer to what Buffy looked liked during the majority of the show..
I agree. Now if they would just do something about her top.

BDboystoys
02-11-2007, 11:02 PM
http://www.cooltoyreview.com/tf2007/SSCother/IMG_5034.JPG
Wow I just noticed the eyelashes on this look so improved! Very lifelike.

TOE
02-12-2007, 01:06 AM
i hope they give priority to those that ordered the original Buffy PF, just like the SW Maul PF priority ordering.

Dave mack
02-12-2007, 01:11 AM
IMHO the hair is the only improvement in the whole look (except for the color which looks a bit too yellow-y to me). The outfit is ridiculous looking. Like some cheap Barbie-Ken doll level.
Same top as before, (did they just take the old dress and chop the bottom off? Apparently.) Same boots too it seems.
If you wanted you could just take the dress off of the original Buffy and put it on this and it would look much better I think.
At least the original figure is a reproduction of something (the promo shots)
This is like a Frankenstein's monster version.
Old pose and 1/2 an outfit from before with baggy red pants and S7 hair...
They couldn't avtually make a proper outfit that was official? How cheap are they?
To me this just reeks of opportunism and now our initial investments might be worth less. Within a year too. Unbelieveable. This is like MR...


oh well. Too bad we can't just pop the hair off the old and swap it out.

And my Buff did not have a real lazy eye, but in pix it can look that way for some reason but when you see it in 3-d it just looks like she's staring off into the distance. So anyways, I bet that many will still get a lazy eye buff potentially as they are using the "look off into the distance" look and that's hard for a painter to capture.

oh well, just my 2 cents.

TOE
02-12-2007, 01:14 AM
i hear you Dave. When I first received the Buffy PF, I immediately started looking into having someone to custom fit variety of clothing. The hair is nice though.

Dave mack
02-12-2007, 01:21 AM
Everybody write Sideshow and ask them to change the shirt to the one below. The nice thing about this shirt is that it would cover the top of the pants...

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5304/bffyrdblkan1.jpg


agreed. Get this shirt and ditch the belt.

olvidadero
02-12-2007, 01:44 AM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2951/buffyshipsjw8.jpg

She ships the 2nd quarter. Pretty soon isn't it. It just shows how little work they have to, or intend to do on the piece.

BDboystoys
02-12-2007, 01:46 AM
IMHO the hair is the only improvement in the whole look (except for the color which looks a bit too yellow-y to me). The outfit is ridiculous looking. Like some cheap Barbie-Ken doll level.
Same top as before, (did they just take the old dress and chop the bottom off? Apparently.) Same boots too it seems.
If you wanted you could just take the dress off of the original Buffy and put it on this and it would look much better I think.
At least the original figure is a reproduction of something (the promo shots)
This is like a Frankenstein's monster version.
Old pose and 1/2 an outfit from before with baggy red pants and S7 hair...
They couldn't avtually make a proper outfit that was official? How cheap are they?
To me this just reeks of opportunism and now our initial investments might be worth less. Within a year too. Unbelieveable. This is like MR...


oh well. Too bad we can't just pop the hair off the old and swap it out.

And my Buff did not have a real lazy eye, but in pix it can look that way for some reason but when you see it in 3-d it just looks like she's staring off into the distance. So anyways, I bet that many will still get a lazy eye buff potentially as they are using the "look off into the distance" look and that's hard for a painter to capture.

oh well, just my 2 cents.

Yeah I definitely hear you and totally get the frustration with all this.
Still since I didnt buy the original, and I find this one more appealing personally, Im grateful. But only for that reason. I'd be mighty pissed if I'd bought the original, and liked this version.

olvidadero
02-12-2007, 01:50 AM
I'd be mighty pissed if I'd bought the original, and liked this version.

For me it's more the fact that I won't have the "complete" collection what pisses me off. I don't find particularly tempting the rehashed statue, and having the first one I won't buy the second. But I will still have the feeling that I missed something, that my collection is not complete.

Oh boy, I spent so much time defending the first PF Buffy in front of my friends and family! It just feels so worthless!

TOE
02-12-2007, 01:56 AM
what sucks more is that Spike PF Excl. comes with 2 variant heads. Sideshow could have easily done this for the first Buffy PF. One with pony tail, the other without.

BDboystoys
02-12-2007, 02:03 AM
what sucks more is that Spike PF Excl. comes with 2 variant heads. Sideshow could have easily done this for the first Buffy PF. One with pony tail, the other without.

True but it might have looked strange seeing the rest is totally S1, and clearly so.

Dave mack
02-12-2007, 02:17 AM
except for the super skinny bod! (minus the S1 breasts of course!)

I don't want to sound too whiny. I actually really love my PF Buff and everyone who has seen her all goes "ooooh!"
But yes, the hairstyle on the revision is more appealing and makes her look more like SMG. Would I drop another $225-$250...? no.
MAYBE if they had a different pose and better clothes.


:)

Dave mack
02-12-2007, 02:18 AM
what sucks more is that Spike PF Excl. comes with 2 variant heads. Sideshow could have easily done this for the first Buffy PF. One with pony tail, the other without.

I think you would have seen where the head joins then since she's wearing a low cut type of top though. They could have easily had 2 hairpieces though.

BDboystoys
02-12-2007, 02:20 AM
I think you would have seen where the head joins then since she's wearing a low cut type of top though. They could have easily had 2 hairpieces though.

Two hair pieces would have been very gimmicky and looked detached, besides the only reason to do an alternate hairpiece is if the other one isn't sufficient...which SS wouldn't admit obviously.

Bullseye
02-12-2007, 02:25 AM
Shouldn't the pants also be PVC as in the picture?

BDboystoys
02-12-2007, 02:30 AM
Shouldn't the pants also be PVC as in the picture?

PVC?:o :confused:

Bullseye
02-12-2007, 02:32 AM
The pants look like they are leather/pvc in the actual picture of her.

Bullseye
02-12-2007, 02:33 AM
Don't they???

IIRC, Buffy wore a short, black leather jacket during the Graduation Day smack-down with Faith, but minus the jacket, it's very similar.

This Season Three promo pic is probably the reference:

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5304/bffyrdblkan1.jpg

BDboystoys
02-12-2007, 02:37 AM
One thing I am seriously hoping is the exclusive, is that wicked interchangeable arm with Faiths Dagger idea I had:D Yes, I have ideas.:rolleyes:

darth dypshyt
02-12-2007, 02:43 AM
See, now THAT looks like Buffy to me...I am in Looovvvee!:D


http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/fincherfan007/Buffyv2-1.jpg

Slayerverse98
02-12-2007, 04:17 AM
Personally I think SSC is inundated with Star Wars development and doesn't have the resources left to do much with the other licenses. I'm sure Andy leaving hasn't helped that either.

When did he leave?

Slayerverse98
02-12-2007, 04:21 AM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2951/buffyshipsjw8.jpg

She ships the 2nd quarter. Pretty soon isn't it. It just shows how little work they have to, or intend to do on the piece.

That's way too soon. Do they think we're all made of money?

olvidadero
02-12-2007, 04:21 AM
See, now THAT looks like Buffy to me...I am in Looovvvee!:D

I'm glad someone is happy with her. I hope she sells well and guarantees more PFs and 1:6ers in the near future

Slayerverse98
02-12-2007, 04:25 AM
If Sideshow sort out her eyebrows, her top and somehow her pants i'd buy her. Do you think they would remake her and change her pose to the one in the promo pic?

olvidadero
02-12-2007, 04:28 AM
If Sideshow sort out her eyebrows, her top and somehow her pants i'd buy her. Do you think they would remake her and change her pose to the one in the promo pic?

Sadly, that's very unlikely going to happen. To make a new pose would mean re-sculpt everything, and what they want to do here is take advantage on the old sculpt being already made, save money on production costs and have a good profit.

Slayerverse98
02-12-2007, 05:06 AM
Sadly, that's very unlikely going to happen. To make a new pose would mean re-sculpt everything, and what they want to do here is take advantage on the old sculpt being already made, save money on production costs and have a good profit.


I thought so. I just thought i'd ask anyway

Slayerverse98
02-12-2007, 05:07 AM
I had a go at photoshopping the outfit to try make it more like the promo pic. It's bad but you get the idea, lol

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2836/buffyphotoshoppedxe7.jpg

Slayerverse98
02-12-2007, 06:21 AM
Some pics from figures.com

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/3586/b1ba4.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4404/b2xk1.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3701/b3ve8.jpg

BillyBudd
02-12-2007, 06:22 AM
One thing I am seriously hoping is the exclusive, is that wicked interchangeable arm with Faiths Dagger idea I had:D Yes, I have ideas.:rolleyes:

That is a good idea.


Do you think they would remake her and change her pose to the one in the promo pic?

No. It's more likely that they would change the shirt, but I doubt they would do that either. Nevertheless, I still wrote and asked them to change the shirt.

olvidadero
02-12-2007, 06:42 AM
Thanks for the new pictures. Her face is incredibly beautiful. I like the repaint, and the hair does so much more justice to her face than the first PF's. However, I still think this is an opportunistic thing SSC has done, good for those who didn't get the first one, kind of insulting for those of us who did.

olvidadero
02-12-2007, 06:43 AM
Oh, and I just noticed the absense of her earrings? Where are they?

BillyBudd
02-12-2007, 06:55 AM
I think it actually looks really good in this picture.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3701/b3ve8.jpg

Boba Fett
02-12-2007, 07:09 AM
Even though I am not much into Buffy, this in my opinion is a way better version than the first.

In fact, she would look good posing next to PF Spike.

Games&Theory
02-12-2007, 07:21 AM
YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!

I already own the first Exclusive PF (still my fav PF)...Spike is pre-ordered already...and I can't wait to pre-order this one!

My only request to SSC...please please please....if there is a SS Exclsuve version of this alternate version (whew...that being a mouthfull) can we maybe get an additional/alternate weapon or something to help differentiate this version moreso (you know...for those of us who already have a stake)?

Thanks to SS for keeping this line going...IMHO, all it was missing was a MUST HAVE Buffy that everybody would WANT (not just us diehards) and this is it. Now, bring on Angel, Willow (a definitive version!!!), Xander, and Giles and...and...

Rook
02-12-2007, 07:28 AM
I'm greatly relieved by these pics. :monkey3 No desire now for this whatsoever.

I'm agreeing with the speculation about a tiny edition size, though. This is the Buffy line's version of the Negative Zone and Classic Spider-man PF.

buffy-collector
02-12-2007, 07:44 AM
It would look better with its hair down,it would then match the promo,if your going to have her hair up give her some clothes that she wore with her hair up.I wanted a new pf to order,not just some badly done one.Overall I think the orinal is 100% better.

Slayerverse98
02-12-2007, 07:50 AM
Oh, and I just noticed the absense of her earrings? Where are they?


Good point! I think they should do real ones instead of painting them on. They'd look loads better

BillyBudd
02-12-2007, 07:50 AM
Does anyone know when the pre-order is tomorrow?

Slayerverse98
02-12-2007, 07:53 AM
I have no idea

Bullseye
02-12-2007, 08:55 AM
I wonder with a little heat could the arm be repositioned??

BDboystoys
02-12-2007, 12:13 PM
Im so anxious. I dont want to miss the preorder!

Bullseye
02-12-2007, 12:23 PM
Isn't this not going up until tomorrow?

Monday 12th Feb:
WoW Announcement
Aliens Feature
Marvel Pre-Order
Musician Pre-Order
Medicom Pre-Orders
Electric Tiki Pre-Orders
Ask Sideshow

Tuesday 13th Feb:
Legend Feature
Darth Maul Pre-Order
Buffy Pre-Order
Monsters Pre-Order
Aliens Pre-Order
Medicom Pre-Orders
T2 Pre-Order
Ask Sideshow

Wednesday 14th Feb:
LOTR Pre-Order
Star Wars Pre-Order
Marvel Pre-Order
Medicom Pre-Orders
Hot Toy Pre-Order
Electric Tiki Pre-Orders
Ask Sideshow
Star Wars Announcement

Eli26
02-12-2007, 12:33 PM
If they improve the eye brows, costume, and add earrings to the piece I would be for getting it. Either wise, the original is much better IMO and more accurate to its promo shot, vs. this piece which isn't accurate to anything. lol

Bullseye
02-12-2007, 12:44 PM
JMO but the following needs to be amended:

Pants tighter fit and more like leather
Top pulled over top of pants
Her right arm repositioned to differ from previous release

RoboDad
02-12-2007, 12:55 PM
...improve the eye brows and add earrings to the piece...
JMO but the following needs to be amended:

Pants tighter fit and more like leather
Top pulled over top of pants
Her right arm repositioned to differ from previous release
All of these things would be great changes, and all could easily be achieved, but can the be achieved by a Q2 shipping schedule?

BillyBudd
02-12-2007, 01:02 PM
JMO but the following needs to be amended:

Pants tighter fit and more like leather
Top pulled over top of pants
Her right arm repositioned to differ from previous release

I agree. I actually think a different shirt should be used (one in promo pic would be excellent substitute). Unfortunately, given the proximity of release, I doubt any changes will be made.

I'm just speculating here, but in terms of likelihood...

tigher pants - wouldn't be surprised to see it happen
different shirt - highly doubtful
different pose - snowball's chance in hell

olvidadero
02-12-2007, 01:02 PM
If they improve the eye brows, costume, and add earrings to the piece I would be for getting it. Either wise, the original is much better IMO and more accurate to its promo shot, vs. this piece which isn't accurate to anything. lol

Yeah, this piece looks more like a good custom.

BillyBudd
02-12-2007, 01:06 PM
JMO but the following needs to be amended:

Pants tighter fit and more like leather
Top pulled over top of pants
Her right arm repositioned to differ from previous release

I agree. I actually think a different shirt should be used (one in promo pic would be excellent substitute; belt would probably need to be removed to decrease bulkiness of top of pants). Unfortunately, given the proximity of release, I doubt any changes will be made.

I'm just speculating here, but in terms of likelihood...

tigher pants - wouldn't be surprised to see it happen
different shirt - highly doubtful
different pose - snowball's chance in hell

Protozaius
02-12-2007, 04:39 PM
Sure, the clothes might not be totally accurate to any one episode, but I think the hair style choice makes the piece feel overall more "character" accurate. Besides, it actually looks more like hair this time... not some Dairy Queen soft serve confection. :monkey3 :monkey3 :monkey3

Furthermore, I've never been a fan of those Buffy promo shots (she only really looks like that IN those shots) and I was disappointed that Sideshow decided used them as a base for the first PF.

Just hope they fix that lazy eye this time. If they do they will have a home run on their hands. :D

I suspect that the edition size will be rather small. :o

Darklord Dave
02-12-2007, 04:47 PM
So the hair doesn't really go with the outfit in the promo shot that this figure ALMOST matches - anyone got an screen cap of that show's this hair style?

Perhaps I can have a completely different outfit created to make buying this piece worthwhile.

blue_rogue
02-12-2007, 04:54 PM
I wonder if this will only be available directly through Sideshow. If so, I think the edition size will be somewhere between 200-350. If retailers are carrying this, too, I hope that the Sideshow exclusive (assuming there is one) will have the "Mr. Pointy" stake.

I also hope that they tighten up the pants and fix the shirt, but I can live with it if they don't.

I'll be looking to pre order tomorrow. :bouncin

BDboystoys
02-12-2007, 09:19 PM
Well with the shirt issue, if we cant get a new one it isnt hard to just untuck the shirt and put it over the belt. It could look great if it was done well.

ffl1940
02-12-2007, 11:14 PM
Why is it so difficult to paint "blonde"? It always comes out yellow and it just doesn't look like yellow at all. Just by looking at any pic of SMG as Buffy you can tell that yellow is just plain wrong. Why can't Sideshow (and others) get this color right? :confused:

the first PF Buffy is closer but it also came out muddy and flat. We can send someone to to moon, surely someone can find a way to paint blond hair on a statue.

BillyBudd
02-13-2007, 11:37 AM
Buffy just went up.

Eli26
02-13-2007, 11:39 AM
I'll be buying this one when pigs start to fly!

BillyBudd
02-13-2007, 11:43 AM
While there is room for improvement, I think it looks quite good...

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/71572_press01-001.jpg

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/71572_press02-001.jpg

olvidadero
02-13-2007, 11:47 AM
I already had my mind made up about this, but after seeing the site pictures I can say officially that I won't get this PF Buffy unless I earn an important sum of money in the near future. It doesn't look bad, but I prefer my original PF Buffy.

Slayerverse98
02-13-2007, 11:49 AM
I think i'm gonna pre-order her. I'm going through the order process now but i don't see any option to use Flexypay. I need a bit of help.....anyone?

Bannister
02-13-2007, 11:49 AM
I wonder what the edition size will be?

Bannister
02-13-2007, 11:50 AM
I think i'm gonna pre-order her. I'm going through the order process now but i don't see any option to use Flexypay. I need a bit of help.....anyone?
https://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=71572FLEX

FrankenFan
02-13-2007, 11:51 AM
So the hair doesn't really go with the outfit in the promo shot that this figure ALMOST matches - anyone got an screen cap of that show's this hair style?.
Check this post (http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showpost.php?p=344692&postcount=56), Dave.

http://www.kurtgoldzung.com/MB/wvb.jpg

Slayerverse98
02-13-2007, 11:54 AM
https://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=71572FLEX

Thank you. How is it that you were able to get the Flexpay one?

EDIT: I figured it out. Thanks again

BDboystoys
02-13-2007, 12:08 PM
ORDERED:D
:chew

Fritz
02-13-2007, 12:12 PM
This version is awesome!!! I don't really want two Buffy's so I'll be selling the original when this one is ready to ship. :rock

darth dypshyt
02-13-2007, 12:15 PM
Didn't get Maul Ex. but, ordered this instead..:D

TOE
02-13-2007, 12:16 PM
Didn't get Maul Ex. but, ordered this instead..:D

what he said :chew :chew

Bannister
02-13-2007, 12:18 PM
This version is awesome!!! I don't really want two Buffy's so I'll be selling the original when this one is ready to ship. :rock
:rock:rock:rock

El Roranous
02-13-2007, 12:20 PM
I really like this version a lot better than the older one. Ordered.

Darklord Dave
02-13-2007, 12:23 PM
Thanks for the pics of the hair.

I just went to order this and can't bring myself to do it. At least the first one was a mirror-accurate rendition of a publicity photo - but this hair and this outfit never happened. The outfit is kind of boring and the fact that the shirt is just the recycled top of the dress from the first one is really disappointing as well. There's not even a different weapon in her hand.

I may cave eventually just cause I like all things Buffy, but I'm pretty disappointed with this offering.

El Roranous
02-13-2007, 12:30 PM
Thanks for the pics of the hair.

I just went to order this and can't bring myself to do it. At least the first one was a mirror-accurate rendition of a publicity photo - but this hair and this outfit never happened. The outfit is kind of boring and the fact that the shirt is just the recycled top of the dress from the first one is really disappointing as well. There's not even a different weapon in her hand.

I may cave eventually just cause I like all things Buffy, but I'm pretty disappointed with this offering.
Dave, I have a feeling that you will learn to love her and all her inaccuracies.

TOE
02-13-2007, 12:34 PM
She will be Kurganized when she gets here. 'nuff said :D

Bullseye
02-13-2007, 12:37 PM
Thanks for the pics of the hair.

I just went to order this and can't bring myself to do it. At least the first one was a mirror-accurate rendition of a publicity photo - but this hair and this outfit never happened. The outfit is kind of boring and the fact that the shirt is just the recycled top of the dress from the first one is really disappointing as well. There's not even a different weapon in her hand.

I may cave eventually just cause I like all things Buffy, but I'm pretty disappointed with this offering.

I agree Dave. If the pants had been leather and the top out over the pants then I would have bought this for sure. Maybe they will fix it like they did with the previous one but as of now i am holding off.

BillyBudd
02-13-2007, 12:37 PM
I wonder how limited this one will be. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. It took forever for Sideshow to set Spike's edizion size.

darth dypshyt
02-13-2007, 12:39 PM
Thanks for the pics of the hair.

I just went to order this and can't bring myself to do it. At least the first one was a mirror-accurate rendition of a publicity photo - but this hair and this outfit never happened. The outfit is kind of boring and the fact that the shirt is just the recycled top of the dress from the first one is really disappointing as well. There's not even a different weapon in her hand.

I may cave eventually just cause I like all things Buffy, but I'm pretty disappointed with this offering.

I have always wanted a Buffy from the 1st episode of season 2...where she does the sexy dance!:D

Dave mack
02-13-2007, 01:02 PM
Woah. I know it's the same face but with the new yellow hair (color is awful IMHO...) pulled back, it makes here eyebrows look much bigger and darker than they should. She looks like Groucho.
The outfit is really lame.

Happy with my original.

thamesvalidude
02-13-2007, 01:15 PM
Thanks for the pics of the hair.

I just went to order this and can't bring myself to do it. At least the first one was a mirror-accurate rendition of a publicity photo - but this hair and this outfit never happened. The outfit is kind of boring and the fact that the shirt is just the recycled top of the dress from the first one is really disappointing as well. There's not even a different weapon in her hand.

I may cave eventually just cause I like all things Buffy, but I'm pretty disappointed with this offering.

Well due respect to the darklord. No one can now say that Dave is a sycophant and Sideshow apologist. i have ordered the PF buffy (and a spike to go with it) but I am very disappointed with the rest of the offerings and felt that as a sideshow groupie i needed to support the company even if we are in a declining relationship. Dave you have my respect!

Eli26
02-13-2007, 01:45 PM
It's so poorly done with all of its inaccuracies. It's got better sculpted hair, but the pants, the shirt, the fact she didn't wear that combo with her hair that way... people, why are you in love with this? hehe

Slayerverse98
02-13-2007, 01:50 PM
The shirt can be fixed, i think. The pants would look better when the shirt is over the top of them. As for her hair, i love it. It doesn't matter if she didn't have hair her that way when wearing that outfit to me, she looks good. My only problems are her eye brows and the outfit which seems they might be fixable. I hope the lazy eye thing doesn't occur with this one though

Eli26
02-13-2007, 01:58 PM
Like I had said before, not everyone got the lazy eye with the original. Myself being one of them.

Having said that, if she was sporting a season six to seven outfit I would be so on this!

dr2red
02-13-2007, 02:18 PM
I ordered her because I had major issues with her hair in the first version.
This version makes me very happy.
She and Spike will look very nice on my shelf when they get here.

abstractharmony
02-13-2007, 03:08 PM
Ordered!

Much more Buffy to me that the first one.

creature4000
02-13-2007, 03:22 PM
I have the first one.. don't have room for this one. especially since its the same pose/face different clothes/hair.

Bannister
02-13-2007, 03:24 PM
She will be Kurganized when she gets here. 'nuff said :D
:rock:rock:rock

Darklord Dave
02-13-2007, 08:00 PM
I still may get her and commission a new outfit and make a different weapon for her to hold. I still think the sculpt is great - as it was on the other PF, and they hair will look much more natural than on the original. But she's so much hotter with the hair down, especially in that photo that this outfit has the same colors as...

BDboystoys
02-13-2007, 09:45 PM
I adore this new Buffy. SS's ToyFair pics are beautiful, and Spike is exquisite.
Cant WAIT till May:D

ffl1940
02-13-2007, 11:12 PM
It's a pass for me too. Have the original and love it (no lazy eye here). I would have been swayed if they'd done something really nice with the outfit, but all that is new is a pair of pants, the "shirt" is the top of the dress from the first one, that's really lame.

Heck, Sideshow loves to make 4 versions of Spiderman's PF and Grey Hulks of different kinds out the wazoo, how about doing the same for Buffy and making a few dozen DoubleMeat Palace Buffy PFs.

You could easily use this exact pose but put her in the DoubleMeat Palace outfit holding a spatula instead of the stake. The "sad" look would fit her mood in the episode perfectly, making the outfit loose would be more appropriate than giving her the loose red pants they did on this PF and I think it'd be fun. Most of all it'd be creative. There seems to be little to no creative juice flowing with these two Buffy PFs so far. No, it's not something that'd sell 500 units, but I'm sure there are 50 or 75 Buffy fans who would snap up that kind of exclusive, I know I would!

Bannister
02-13-2007, 11:15 PM
It's a pass for me too. Have the original and love it (no lazy eye here). I would have been swayed if they'd done something really nice with the outfit, but all that is new is a pair of pants, the "shirt" is the top of the dress from the first one, that's really lame.

Heck, Sideshow loves to make 4 versions of Spiderman's PF and Grey Hulks of different kinds out the wazoo, how about doing the same for Buffy and making a few dozen DoubleMeat Palace Buffy PFs.

You could easily use this exact pose but put her in the DoubleMeat Palace outfit holding a spatula instead of the stake. The "sad" look would fit her mood in the episode perfectly, making the outfit loose would be more appropriate than giving her the loose red pants they did on this PF and I think it'd be fun. Most of all it'd be creative. There seems to be little to no creative juice flowing with these two Buffy PFs so far. No, it's not something that'd sell 500 units, but I'm sure there are 50 or 75 Buffy fans who would snap up that kind of exclusive, I know I would!
:rotfl :rotfl :rotfl
And yes, I would buy it.

ffl1940
02-13-2007, 11:45 PM
y'know, come to think of it Sideshow could have done SO much better, SO much more with a re-release of this PF instead of the insipidly uninspired version they are offering.

If they're just going to re-hash the body and alter the hair and not stick to any particular theme fine, but they could have done so much more with this same pose and a new hairsculpt than they chose to do.

How does the Punisher, Hellboy, LOTR, Star Wars. John Wayne, heck, even Spike (and so many other PFs) get a really nice, highly detailed outfit with many layers, well researched fabrics accessories etc and Buffy gets treated like crap outfit wise on two different PFs!!!???!!!!

Ok, so I'll give you the little black dress for the first one, but show us something with the second PF, how lame is it essentially just adding a pair of red pants over the dress?

Can't believe it but I'm honestly po'd about a collectible right now. :rotfl Look at the line of PFs that Sideshow has released and tell me you don't think Sideshow took about the cheapest possible route designing this figure. They were probably all laughing in R&D, it was probably a joke at first to all of them. "Hey guys, what if we took the exact same Buffy, but put the other hair on her and a pair of red pants... I bet 300 people buy it, that's $75,000!!!" "No way, they'd be real lemmings to do that"..."Hey, let's post it at ToyFair and see how it goes, y'know, just for laughs"

We were fed the story with the first Buffy PF that they put the money into the figure sculpt and that left little for the outfit. First off I didn't believe that, (surely Hellboy cost as much to sculpt but he got the overcoat, gun, belt etc. and cost $250, same with others) so what's the excuse with this version Sideshow?????

Yeah, I know, don't like it don't buy it, but the thing is I want to buy Buffy PFs, I want to support the line so more stuff is released. I'll buy a re-hash of the sculpt even, I'm that big of a fan. But please, don't insult us, that is a half-a$...no, make that quarter a$$ effort. We've seen Sideshow PFs that blow us away, we know you're capable of so much more, why does Buffy get the short end of the stick when it comes to PF costumes??????

Dave mack
02-14-2007, 12:38 AM
Yep, well said.
The more I think about it this is just insulting to the fans.
Meaning they think, these chumps will buy ANYTHING as long as it's Buffy...
At least the first one took some thought and they were going for the promo pic. look. This is just BS.
Couldn't afford to make a new shirt? Jeez. For $250...?
I might have been born at night but it wasn't last night.

darth dypshyt
02-14-2007, 12:59 AM
I seem to be the odd one out, except for BD..Maybe it's an Aussie thing...We like it Sideshow!..:o

olvidadero
02-14-2007, 01:21 AM
Yeah, I know, don't like it don't buy it, but the thing is I want to buy Buffy PFs, I want to support the line so more stuff is released. I'll buy a re-hash of the sculpt even, I'm that big of a fan. But please, don't insult us, that is a half-a$...no, make that quarter a$$ effort. We've seen Sideshow PFs that blow us away, we know you're capable of so much more, why does Buffy get the short end of the stick when it comes to PF costumes??????

I say Amen. Perfect way to sum it all up. I feel the exact same way. I feel bad I'm not getting this PF statue, because I've purchased every Sideshow figure that has been made (except for D'Hoffryn, that's another story), and I have the urge to buy everything they release, even though I'm not completely happy with it, just to support the line so that we can get many more characters. But this, this is just too much. I love Sideshow and all the people that work there, but this time, they are not treating us as we deserve, they must think we're stupid, and that hurts...

BDboystoys
02-14-2007, 01:44 AM
I seem to be the odd one out, except for BD..Maybe it's an Aussie thing...We like it Sideshow!..:o

Youre not the odd one out:D Plus the thing about this is, that might not have been taken into consideration is that some people didnt buy the first, so this is fresh to them. While I do understand all the frustration and its rightly so but Im grateful they've tweaked the original to this alternate edition that to me sums up Buffy far more as a character and in presentation, and it looks fantastic.
There's no way everyone would be pleased with this move, but I myself definately am, as I'll now have a definitive Buffy in my collection:D

Games&Theory
02-14-2007, 06:42 AM
what he said :chew :chew

Me three...used the money saved by not getting Maul to pre-order a second Alt. Buffy for my friend who will be THRILLED with it.

Thanks agais SS!
G&T

Eli26
02-14-2007, 08:13 AM
Yep, well said.
The more I think about it this is just insulting to the fans.
Meaning they think, these chumps will buy ANYTHING as long as it's Buffy...
At least the first one took some thought and they were going for the promo pic. look. This is just BS.
Couldn't afford to make a new shirt? Jeez. For $250...?
I might have been born at night but it wasn't last night.

While I don't think SideShow thinks of us as chumps, I could understand why someone could think like that. They are giving us the same outfit, but just with pants. All we're getting here is a new hair sculpt (which looks great but the thickness of the eye brows throws it off), and an ugly pair of tacky pants that don't even fit her right. An outfit that isn't episode or promo shot specific. All I can say is if you thought the original was way off but this one is a hit... I got four words for you.... What are you smoking?

C'mon SideShow, if you really want to test the waters and see where this line is going in terms of success in sales, don't release a half-assed Buffy alternate version, but give the Buffy collectors a whole new character all together! You're still my favorite company, but this is why DST annoys me. They come out with 10 different versions of the same character, instead of giving us whole new characters. Yes it's cheaper to produce figures of the same sculpt, but I like many others don't want the same character shoved down our throats like that. Still waiting for a lot of monsters from that line, and a Gunn! hehe

Anyway, I need to get out of this thread. I am a broken record!

El Roranous
02-14-2007, 08:28 AM
I think some of you may be missing the point with this release. I am getting alternate Buffy because I missed out on the first one and honestly was underwhlemed by the first one. This new one has a more Buffy feeling to me and looks better in my opinion.

Just sit still guys, I know there are more Buffy PFs in the future. Plus Spike looks amazing.

Eli26
02-14-2007, 08:42 AM
Even if that is the reason (which some of us know), we are still not happy with the lack of love put into this piece. It still doesn't take away from the fact that the outfit on this is poorly done and looks rushed and isn't specific to anything. So even if it was for those who missed on the first Buffys, atleast the second release of the Sean Connery Bond is specific to a scene(s) in a film, like the alternate Punisher is to Tim Bradstreet's design of the skull.

Hopefully they fix up some issues before the new Buffy PF comes out.

El Roranous
02-14-2007, 08:46 AM
Even if that is the reason (which some of us know), we are still not happy with the lack of love put into this piece. It still doesn't take away from the fact that the outfit on this is poorly done and looks rushed and isn't specific to anything. So even if it was for those who missed on the first Buffys, atleast the second release of the Sean Connery Bond is specific to a scene(s) in a film, like the alternate Punisher is to Tim Bradstreet's design of the skull.

Hopefully they fix up some issues before the new Buffy PF comes out.
I see what you are saying and I agree with you. Hopefully the outfit will undergo some major fixing. I would have loved a different pose too. However, with all this being said, I bet that she will look amazing when she is released.

buffy-collector
02-14-2007, 08:58 AM
I for one wouldnt have got this even if its clothes were right,because its still the same pf under the clothes.Really its just a pf for those who missed the first but I would rather Sideshow give them something nicer with a new top and better pants.And I dont really like the hair on the new one and im betting it has the lazy eye issue on some.

For me the orignal is more "Buffy".Its from the first promos,the first season and it looks hot but hey that pic of buffy in the mini is my fav pic of her ever.And mine had no lazy eye so it was only some!

Im glad that those are getting it,like it though!

olvidadero
02-14-2007, 12:08 PM
this is why DST annoys me. They come out with 10 different versions of the same character, instead of giving us whole new characters. Yes it's cheaper to produce figures of the same sculpt, but I like many others don't want the same character shoved down our throats like that.

I have to disagree with you about that, Eli. I usually complain about quality and scale problems in the DST line, but I love collecting those figures. DST has always produced many variants of a character, and they have still some important ones to do, like Gunn, I agree. But see, they made all the core characters from "Buffy", including Anya, Tara and Dawn, and they didn't use the same face sculpt for all the variants. There are two Dawn sculpts for instance, and two Anyas as well. As for Willow, you have three different head sculpt in the same line. They have made Glory, Wesley, Buffybot, illyria, Human Darla and Drusilla, DB Wood, Kennedy, and more that won't ever be released by Sideshow. I love the variants, having representations of many episodes in one character is a nice thing imo. They not only have given us almost every important character in the Buffyverse, and a bunch of other characters, but also the opportunity of choosing among a wide variety of episode specific and iconic representations of each one. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Sorry to change the topic with this.

ffl1940
02-14-2007, 05:17 PM
Sorry to change the topic with this.



Don't worry, I'll change it back! ;-P


I thought I would have calmed down a bit after nearly a day, but I'm just as ticked off as I was last night! :rotfl


Let's say Sideshow came to one of us and said "We're going to re-release the Buffy PF. We've got the ability to change the hair and the outfit, but there are limitations including we can't change the pose, any ideas?"

Is there anyone of us that couldn't have come up with a better PF? Where's the creativity?

Though I still like my DoubleMeat Palace, what about a Prophecy Girl Buffy PF using this pose?

The dress would have been a relatively simple piece to make and easilyl able to fit over the current body sculpt with the added benefit of doing a good job of covering up the fact that the pose was the same leading to tempting more people to get the 2nd that already had #1. Give her an arrow(bolt) for the "spike hand" and a crossbow to sit on the ground and you sell many times the amount that will sell of "New Pants Buffy" IMHO anyway.


Sorry for ranting it's just that AARRRRGGGHHHH, it's frustrating to think of what Sideshow could have done vs. what they offering.

BillyBudd
02-14-2007, 07:46 PM
A Prophecy Girl Buffy would have rocked...much better than this generic Buffy (which I ordered regardless). In order to make PG Buffy, they would have had to have sculpted new shoes, too, though (not that doing so would have been difficult).

olvidadero
02-14-2007, 11:46 PM
I love the idea of a PF PG Buffy. I agree, there must be like 5.546 better ideas than "New Pants Buffy" as you well put it.

Dave mack
02-14-2007, 11:54 PM
I wouldn't even mind the pants so much but jeez, couldn't they do a proper top (shirt) not just 1/2 of the old dress...?!?!?
They are asking $250 for basically what is an alternate version of the first statue. How much could it cost them to get a proper shirt made..?!?!

Josette
02-15-2007, 06:22 AM
If I collected the PF figures I would be pretty disgusted, to be honest. The hair makes the sculpt look so much better, but everything else is 'blah'. The top is basically the dress with the skirt cut off. The pants aren't accurate if they were going for the look of her in the red pants and black sleeveshirt in the promo pic.

It just seems like a poor attempt all the way around.

buffy-collector
02-15-2007, 08:58 AM
A PG buffy would rock I'd buy that!

p.s check out my collection pics,links in my sig....

BillyBudd
02-16-2007, 11:14 AM
I wrote Sideshow about Buffy's eyebrows, and I encourage other people to do the same. Someone on BtVSFigs made this image.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1588/pfbuffyvj5.jpg

Eli26
02-16-2007, 11:37 AM
I wrote Sideshow about Buffy's eyebrows, and I encourage other people to do the same. Someone on BtVSFigs made this image.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1588/pfbuffyvj5.jpg

NOW THAT LOOKS A HUNDRED TIMES BETTER AND BLOWS AWAY ANYTHING SMG RELATED EVER RELEASED! If SideShow can do that, and give her a much improved and episode specific outfit I just maybe persuaded to take on another Buffy PF!!!

BillyBudd
02-16-2007, 11:46 AM
Yeah, the eyebrows should be thinner. I made a thread about it. I think this is a problem that could actually be fixed in time for the release of the final product.

BDboystoys
03-22-2007, 11:12 PM
ES set at 850:D Thats quite a fair number!

Darklord Dave
03-22-2007, 11:20 PM
Hell of a lot more than I expected.

BDboystoys
03-22-2007, 11:43 PM
Hell of a lot more than I expected.

Me too! HOwever if SS has that set theyre obviously confident in the line:D

Serpentor
03-23-2007, 12:05 AM
Seeing as how the mold already exists for the body any edition size of this really isnt an indication of how confident they are in the line. More how confident they are that people who complained about the original will buy a re-hash. I would assume the profit margin on these is higher then the original PF.

darth dypshyt
03-23-2007, 12:49 AM
850 Edition size.:confused: :confused: ..Well there is one more added to the pot. I am cancelling mine....I liked the sculpt but, I am not gonna pay $250 USD plus shipping, about another $150, for this statue with THAT many being made....WAY to high in my opinion, especially since most on this board are saying they hate it...(and therefore I deduce, not buying one..), so that means over-supply, and the price on this will go..DOWN

Unless this has been more popular than most thought??

Serpentor
03-23-2007, 01:00 AM
I would only consider getting this if the price was good. And that would have to be lower then what I paid for my first Buffy PF. I wiated on that one and I paid under retail so I'll wait and see how this one does on the secondary market.

BillyBudd
03-23-2007, 06:40 AM
850 is 50 less than the original. That's OK with me. I don't care how limited it is.

thamesvalidude
03-23-2007, 06:45 AM
I've ordered it twice and cancelled it twice. For me its the trousers that look poor.

olvidadero
03-23-2007, 06:51 AM
Wow, 850!! That means I can wait. I'm not dying to have her, but since it's a Sideshow Buffy product and I already have almost every piece in the collection, I would feel bad for not having her. However, with this high edition size, I have the guarantee that its price won't increase very much. I'll get her as soon as I can afford it. So far, I am extremely happy with my first PF Buffy.

FrankenFan
03-23-2007, 08:28 AM
Reprising his comments from his interview in Buffy and Angel Magazine, in the March 22nd edition of Sideshow Radio (http://www.sideshowtoy.com/behindtheshow/?p=2827), Operations Manager Brant Bridges stated:

Yeah, the Premium Format line is gonna continue. We debuted the Buffy in her red and black outfit at Toy Fair, and it's been really well received. And then we've announced that an Angel figure will join the line-up, and we hope that the line goes on indefinitely. It just depends on how folks respond to the big three.
An Es of 850 does seem like a lot, especially for a self-described "Alternate Edition."

Perhaps the plan is to have a PF Buffy available short-term to support characters like Spike and Angel, while Sideshow assesses the value of continuing the line "indefinitely."

:dunno

Darth Rage
03-23-2007, 08:57 PM
Either that or they are making the same mistakes they did with the 12" line FF. Too many core charactor representations. ES of 850 - I think we're going to see this one in stock for a loooooong time. I see spooktacular banners in Alternate Buffy's future.

Slayerverse98
03-24-2007, 06:13 AM
I left a comment on the comments for march 22nd newsletter posted about how Buffy's eyebrows need fixing or i'll have to cancel my order. Anyway Sideshow haven't even approved it which has made me angry because it wasn't anything nasty

Fritz
03-25-2007, 08:41 AM
I'm a little surprised as well at the edition size. I expected it to be less. That being said, since it's not exclusive, I'll probably order through a retailer to save some $$ and I'll sell the current Buffy since I don't really want two as I like the new one better.

Nitro
03-25-2007, 09:29 AM
I really want this version of the statue, hoping minor kinks will be worked out (ie. the caterpillar eyebrows in the proto pics). I'm waiting to see what the final product looks like before I order this. I missed out the first time with the 1st Buffy PF and saw it available at a local comic shop (but passed to see how this one will eventually look). With the size of the run posted, I feel that I can wait things out...

Serpentor
03-25-2007, 02:10 PM
the edition size definatley makes it easier to wait and see. Alot of people could start selling off thier original Buffy PF's and then anyone wanting that one could be able to get it cheaper. Or the majoroty of people will pass on this one and its price will be lower and easier for anyone who wants this one to pick it up.

olvidadero
03-25-2007, 03:29 PM
the edition size definatley makes it easier to wait and see. Alot of people could start selling off thier original Buffy PF's and then anyone wanting that one could be able to get it cheaper. Or the majoroty of people will pass on this one and its price will be lower and easier for anyone who wants this one to pick it up.

Oh, I hope people don't give up on their first PF Buffy... she's great. I still love mine, it's still her the last thing I look at before going to bed. :lol :lol

Dave mack
03-25-2007, 04:30 PM
overall, the original is better IMHO.
If I had to choose between the two, I would still pick the original. The alternate version to me is just a cheap, half-*** way to cash in with very little extra work. Ponytail but 80's era eyebrows and a CRAP outfit.
Sideshow oughta be ashamed.

Nightcrawler777
04-05-2007, 01:52 PM
I ordered one..
But if they dont fix those Eyebrows she is most likely going back...

Dave mack
04-06-2007, 12:18 PM
Yep. I just looked at the photos again after not seeing it for awhile.
She looks like Groucho Marx. Ridiculous...

olvidadero
04-10-2007, 02:07 PM
One more thought: A 250$ rehashed baggy pants thick eyebrowed Buffy gets an ES of 850!! pieces. What makes Sideshow think a new 1:6 Buffy (Chosen, Gift, Buffybot...) wouldn't sell well and make the line recover its spark?

Dave mack
04-10-2007, 11:01 PM
indeed. I'd be interested in an accurate Buffy from "The Gift" as that ep/ meant ALOT. This current one with an outfit that never existed on the show, with crazy wrong eyebrows? nope.

Slayerverse98
04-13-2007, 01:13 AM
I'm supprised she's sold out! I just hope Sideshow fix her eyebrows for the time she ships

olvidadero
04-13-2007, 02:56 AM
I'm more than surprised, I'm shocked (in a positive way). Sideshow keeps getting signals of the support that fans have for the line. Please keep it going...

BillyBudd
04-13-2007, 08:34 AM
Woah, I'm a little suprised, too! This is good news.

Darklord Dave
04-13-2007, 10:03 PM
I'm totally shocked, I thought she would have lasted for years. But I guess it's good, maybe they'll make a new Buffy that actually wears a costume from the show now.

Slayerverse98
04-14-2007, 01:31 AM
Yeh it's good news. Do you think Sideshow will fix her eyebrows before she ships?

thamesvalidude
04-14-2007, 02:04 AM
Yeh it's good news. Do you think Sideshow will fix her eyebrows before she ships?

There's as much chance of that as there is of them releasing the Wes which was supposedly the next figure.

Slayerverse98
04-14-2007, 06:36 AM
Oh. I might end up cancelling her then. Not sure yet

Nitro
04-14-2007, 09:37 AM
I'm happy for you diehard Buffy fans with this PF selling out!! Hopefully this will give Sideshow a good sign that the line needs to continue.

BDboystoys
04-15-2007, 07:27 PM
Sold Out? WOW THATS impressive. Most impressive.
Hm I dont see SS doing another PF Buffy for the line, if they did it would really be abit repetitive, they now need to continue on with new characters.

Eli26
04-15-2007, 07:37 PM
I can't believe they sold out this... debacle! I am sorry I just don't like it and not because I own the original. But because the original didn't cut any corners and was episode specific and has a lower ES. But ES aside, it's just the presentation and lack there of on SS' part, that has me mystified that this sold out! The only thing I like about the alternate Buffy is the sculpted pony tail. Other than that, there are too many hang ups that I (like many others) have concerning this particular piece.

But I guess this is good news all the same. Could perhaps mean that there could still be life for the Buffy/Angel line, which I would hope this would open SS' eyes.

Serpentor
04-15-2007, 09:57 PM
It shows that the Buffy PF line can hold its own. They managed to sell out an alternate edition meaning the fan base is there for these things. I wish it was the 1/6 figures that had some life left but oh well.