PF Maul Sales Method Poll

[tomandshell]

Sideshow's new approach to handling preorders with the Darth Maul PF has generated some discussion from those who both love the idea and those who hate it. I am interested in seeing where the various board members stand on the issue, so here's a poll.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

This new idea sux. Here's why:
http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showpost.php?p=340713&postcount=67
http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showpost.php?p=341056&postcount=90
Other board members have stated some good reasons in that thread also.

[rabidwolverine21]

i agree new way to try to get people to buy more pfs in my opinion. sux

[tomandshell]

OK--the poll is ready.

(I hate that the thread goes live before you have a chance to write up the poll!!)

:rotfl

[darth dypshyt]

I voted for the 3rd choice...I haven't yet purchased a SW PF, but this is to be my first..I also think this type of idea is stupid...Sideshow, just keep it simple man...FIRST IN ...FIRST SERVED!!

[Agent0028]

I voted for the 3rd choice...I haven't yet purchased a SW PF, but this is to be my first..
Just curious, what makes this figure worth paying full price for as opposed to whatever route you went for the others?

[rabidwolverine21]

i dont like the way the poll is worded, i dont think it gets the opinion of both sides.

[Seretur]

I actually somehow managed to vote first, and for the first choice...

...although I'd be pretty :thwak right now if my Leia WL hadn't come through. I'd still be pretty certain to get the Maul anyway, but this gives me the peace of mind and the Flexpay option my CC so clearly prefers.

I dunno, Sideshow should really warn people in advance of things like this. Matt said something about a possibility of a "Rewards Points-only" piece in the future -- that would also honor the returning customer, yes, but what if the returning customer just used up all his points the previous week?

I suppose a nice gesture can (and will) always be interpreted two ways.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

I voted for the 3rd choice...I haven't yet purchased a SW PF, but this is to be my first..I also think this type of idea is stupid...Sideshow, just keep it simple man...FIRST IN ...FIRST SERVED!!
I have done exactly the same thing, even if I have a SW PF which I ordered from SSC directly. For obvious reasons I might say. I don't think the choices given in this poll make it possible to express just what one thinks about SSC approach in the Maul PF Exclusive. But the poll in itself is a good idea.

[RoboDad]

This is a great idea. Here's why:

http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showpost.php?p=341053&postcount=89
http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showpost.php?p=341092&postcount=99

Other board members have stated some good reasons in that thread also.

[LOTRFan]

I like it, I appreciate the recognition of customers on SS's part. :cool:

[tomandshell]

I do think that this being a villain, and a prequel character, puts him in a slightly different fan base than Luke, Leia, Han, Obi-Wan, and Luke/Yoda. 7 of the 8 previous PFs have been from the OT. I can imagine a PT fan who couldn't afford Grievous wanting Maul to be their first purchase and wanting the exclusive for only $20 more. Many younger fans got into Star Wars through the prequels and have a love for Maul that will get them to pull the trigger in a way that the previous OT figures didn't.

I definitely understand the frustration of such a collector and I hope that there will indeed be some available at noon for the folks who wanted exclusive Maul to be their first Star Wars PF.

[Agent0028]

I thinkt he point of the poll was to see how many people are actually left out in the cold on this way.

[LOTRFan]

I thinkt he point of the poll was to see how many people are actually left out in the cold on this way.

I high suspect that ANYONE will be, this is a rather large ES - PFs take significantly longer to sell out than do the 12" figs.

I could understand the griping if you could ONLY get this item if you had purchased a previous PF, as it stands you have a two hour head start ... that's it.

[tomandshell]

I thinkt he point of the poll was to see how many people are actually left out in the cold on this way.

Yes, I would like to get a feel for how many people want to order Maul but won't be able to at 10 AM on Tuesday.

Several people have stated that they will be eligible but still don't like the idea. We can obviously discuss that, but the poll itself focuses on two things--eligibility and desire for the piece, rather than our feelings about the new method. I want to see how just those two factors line up in the experience of our board members.

[Natrix]

I like the idea and I will order from Sideshow directly for a couple of reasons:

1. Customer service; if I have problems it will be much easier dealing direct with Sideshow

2. Reward points

All I can say is bring on Maul!! :maul

[darth dypshyt]

Just curious, what makes this figure worth paying full price for as opposed to whatever route you went for the others?


I have not bought any SW figures before this, so no, I am not just out looking for an argument/SS bash..I have always liked Maul as a character...And EVERYTHING I have bought previously from SS DIRECT..My Lurtz PF EX. , My Morgul Lord LOTR Statue, and have I had the opportunity to get in on something because I purchased these??? NO.

And I am not like you people in the US..I have to pay nearly as much AGAIN in shipping if I want an exclusive...So, as you can see, it's not as easy for us guys to rack up the purchases...You're not paying $160+ for shipping PLUS taxes and duties to get them..We "others" have to be more selective on what we spend, at least the ones who have to work for a living..:D

[Batty]

I voted for the first choice simply based on the fact that I've ordered previous PFs directly from SS and I plan on getting Maul.

[Seretur]

I still think this method will be too lenient by the time we come to the Ripped Shirt AOTC Padmé Exclusive.

That one should be only available to middle-aged European book translators for a PPO. :D

[Darklord Dave]

I can't see how this isn't the BEST way to sell exclusives. The fact that there are exclusives excludes some people - hence the use of the term "exclusive". But this way they make sure that people who have been loyal to them in the past get first dibs.

I'd hate for the negative outcry to convince them to change their minds (like with the lottery) when they've FINALLY stumbled on the only fair way to sell these items.

[The Josh]

I like it, I appreciate the recognition of customers on SS's part. :cool:

Yeah, it rewards those who have bought SW PF from SS before. I just don't see anything wrong with doing that it's no different than the RP Program.

[LOTRFan]

I can't see how this isn't the BEST way to sell exclusives. The fact that there are exclusives excludes some people - hence the use of the term "exclusive". But this way they make sure that people who have been loyal to them in the past get first dibs.

Exactly. What if all of us who HAVE purchased directly from SS in the past were to whine and complain because those who hadn't get rewarded for "nothing." "But it's not fair, that those who only wanted Maul, can get him when I got shut-out, and I am a SW PF lifer."

:clap

[RoboDad]

Yeah, it rewards those who have bought SW PF from SS before. I just don't see anything wrong with doing that it's no different than the RP Program.
It's also no different than rewarding people who are able to take the time to attend SDCC by letting them pre-order at the show (which I have no problem with, either).

I still think this method will be too lenient by the time we come to the Ripped Shirt AOTC Padmé Exclusive.

That one should be only available to middle-aged European book translators for a PPO. :D
:rotfl

[pixletwin]

Since I am too poor to get this bad-boy, I don't care. :dance

[Natrix]

I can't see how this isn't the BEST way to sell exclusives. The fact that there are exclusives excludes some people - hence the use of the term "exclusive". But this way they make sure that people who have been loyal to them in the past get first dibs.

I'd hate for the negative outcry to convince them to change their minds (like with the lottery) when they've FINALLY stumbled on the only fair way to sell these items.

Hear, hear!

People have been asking for a preorder that rewards loyal customers, then ***** about it when it happens...nobody will ever be happy with every program as someone will end up feeling slighted.

[tomandshell]

Maybe next time they can work out a method where you redeem some of your Reward Points to access the preorder. That way all direct customers will be able to participate.

I have little sympathy for those who are opposed to this new method because they always buy through retailers for the discount. I do feel bad for people who always buy direct from Sideshow, yet have never made a Star Wars PF purchase. There could be loyal customers who have spent thousands of dollars buying from Sideshow direct who are excluded from the earlybird ordering time and feel that they are not appreciated.

A flat fee of reward points to access the preorder might be less controversial. But then again, people will always find something to complain about.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

...And I am not like you people in the US..I have to pay nearly as much AGAIN in shipping if I want an exclusive...So, as you can see, it's not as easy for us guys to rack up the purchases...You're not paying $160+ for shipping PLUS taxes and duties to get them..We "others" have to be more selective on what we spend, at least the ones who have to work for a living..:D
Glad you brought that up. Even if I don't pay as much as you, it's still quite a lot I have to pay on top of the SSC price for shipping and taxes. And yes, I know that this is not SSC's fault, and I should be complaining to my country for even making me pay taxes, etc., etc.. Fact is We have to pay a lot more for every purchase straight from SSC.

[Agent0028]

I have always liked Maul as a character...
I see, so its basically like Tom said, none of the others have appealed to you. I can understand that. I hope you're able to get one. I'm sure you will even if it is via the waitlist. Good luck with it. And look on the bright side, after this you won't have to worry about it if you want another SW figure.

[TheObsoleteMan]

I have no idea why Sideshow thinks they have to keep cooking up these gimmicky ordering stunts. I don't want Maul so it doesn't really affect me this time, but it still bugs when they come up with this stuff. The PPO process isn't broken, stop trying to fix it.

[Natrix]

It's also no different than rewarding people who are able to take the time to attend SDCC by letting them pre-order at the show (which I have no problem with, either).

It is a little different comparing ordering online and having to attend a show on the other side of the country. I don't care if they do preorders at a show but they need to track it better so they don't end up overselling and increasing announced edition sizes on exclusives...again...

[Alice Adrenochrome]

... A flat fee of reward points to access the preorder might be less controversial. But then again, people will always find something to complain about.
If I remember it right, this is the second time you bring this up Tom, and again, I support that idea. Might not be perfect, but it's a much better approach than what SSC is planning now.

[The Josh]

I have no idea why Sideshow thinks they have to keep cooking up these gimmicky ordering stunts. I don't want Maul so it doesn't really affect me this time, but it still bugs when they come up with this stuff. The PPO process isn't broken, stop trying to fix it.

They're thanking their customers who have bought before. There's nothing wrong with doing that at all. All you have to do is order something from SS once in a while and you're in. I don't hear people who only orders regulars *****ing about the RP Program.

[RoboDad]

There is always the possibility of setting up a "buddy" thread. Looking at the poll, it appears right now that there are more people qualified for the PPO that don't want the piece than there are people who aren't qualified who do want it. If you are really concerned, start a thread and get yourself covered.

[Lord Aykroyd]

I really like the idea of giving a head start to those who have purchased directly before hand. But I feel that the number of pieces available during that head start should be limited.

ex. First 2 hours -- 500 pieces go on preorder for those who have purchased previously.

After the 2 hours -- all other pieces go on preorder for newsletter members (+ any left overs if there are any)

This would ASSURE those who didn't purchase a PF directly before hand that there would be at least 1/2 of the run available come their preorder window. :D

[The Josh]

There is always the possibility of setting up a "buddy" thread. Looking at the poll, it appears right now that there are more people qualified for the PPO that don't want the piece than there are people who aren't qualified who do want it. If you are really concerned, start a thread and get yourself covered.

RIght! Think a little and it's not a problem. People sometimes just want to react and *****. Instead stop. Take a deep breath. Use your friends here on the boards.

[darthviper107]

Wouldn't a better system be something like having it based off of total purchases or possibly how long members have been a customer? This system is kind of limiting to people who only buy a PF and not to people who are still loyal Sideshow customers. I've spent around $400-$500 on Sideshow stuff which would be enough for a PF and yet I possibly won't be able to order the exclusive because none of the items happened to be a PF.

Now, it's not really a big issue for this since I don't think it will sellout the exclusive version in that 2 hour time and the exclusive isn't really important on this one. But I really don't think this will work as something to start happening all that much.

[Natrix]

Maybe next time they can work out a method where you redeem some of your Reward Points to access the preorder. That way all direct customers will be able to participate.

I have little sympathy for those who are opposed to this new method because they always buy through retailers for the discount. I do feel bad for people who always buy direct from Sideshow, yet have never made a Star Wars PF purchase. There could be loyal customers who have spent thousands of dollars buying from Sideshow direct who are excluded from the earlybird ordering time and feel that they are not appreciated.

A flat fee of reward points to access the preorder might be less controversial. But then again, people will always find something to complain about.

Bad idea....I don't spend money on their stuff to earn points to spend on the ability to spend more money. I want to apply it to my orders to save some cash.

Also, if people are buying through retailers to save money, they aren't getting the exclusive and Sideshow is getting less money as well....so what is the problem again?? Why should Sideshow reward them?? :confused:

[The Josh]

DV I think those two methods present more problems.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

I have no idea why Sideshow thinks they have to keep cooking up these gimmicky ordering stunts. I don't want Maul so it doesn't really affect me this time, but it still bugs when they come up with this stuff. The PPO process isn't broken, stop trying to fix it.

¡Right on!

[RoboDad]

Wouldn't a better system be something like having it based off of total purchases or possibly how long members have been a customer?
That would also be a good system, but it would also have just as many detractors. I've been buying direct from Sideshow for 4+ years, so I am confident I would "win" under such a system, but someone who has "only" been buying from them for a year might not, and might cry foul.

[darthviper107]

Or they could just get rid of this new ordering method:rolleyes:

[TheObsoleteMan]

Wouldn't a better system be something like having it based off of total purchases or possibly how long members have been a customer?
Or maybe just putting it up for order and letting people buy it like normal and avoid all the drama.

What's next? People who've been customers for more than 3 years and have spent X amount of dollars and were born on a tuesday get first crack?

[Lord Aykroyd]

That would also be a good system, but it would also have just as many detractors. I've been buying direct from Sideshow for 4+ years, so I am confident I would "win" under such a system, but someone who has "only" been buying from them for a year might not, and might cry foul.

Yeah, I think the key is - reward loyalty without punishing newbism :chew

[RoboDad]

Or they could just get rid of this new ordering method:rolleyes:
Right, and they could also get rid of reward points, free DVDs, free shirts, free caps, free bonus collectibles, and so on, and so on, and so on... :rolleyes:

[SolidLiquidFox]

This new system works 2 ways: it rewards SW PF fans that have purchased direct and it also creates an artificial demand. A lot of us that ordered Boba PF as our first SW PF are up a creek since it hasn't shipped yet.

How many non-exclusives will there be made? My guess is 1,500 to 2,000. At that ratio the exclusive doesn't seem that especial to me. Furthermore, since the exclusive item is not that great they should be even MORE limited. 1,000 exclusive Mauls to me is a lot for a probe droid. It's less obscene than 2,000 "exclusive" mandalorian artifacts for Boba but still too much.

I am passing on this but I can see how some people may have a problem with this system. I do believe that after this we are officially "Mauled out"

[jason2885]

I plan to get every Sideshow exclusive for both the PF and the 12" line. I have bought Leia Grievous and Luke and Yoda from Sideshow so I will be getting Maul on Tuesday. I am still looking for a Han Rebel Hero PF if anyone ever decides to sell one please let me know. I just dont want to have to give $450-$500 for one.

I actually wish Sideshow would start a one of every exclusive club. Basically at the beginning of every year let people who want to buy one of every Star Wars 12" Sideshow exclusive figure that year go ahead and put an order in for all of that years figures and offer the chance to renew each year. You could not cancel a single figure you must get every single one of them in the 12" line for that year. I think it would be a great deal. Basically every time there is PPO as soon as it goes live I get an email in my inbox with my order. This way I would never have to miss a PPO again.

[RoboDad]

Yeah, I think the key is - reward loyalty without punishing newbism :chew
No, I think the key is to reward loyal customers, and stop complaining if you aren't one yet.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Bad idea....I don't spend money on their stuff to earn points to spend on the ability to spend more money. I want to apply it to my orders to save some cash.
...
Interesting point of view. Didn't see it that way. Still, you are fee to use your reward points as you will, but I see your point.

[RoboDad]

What's next? People who've been customers for more than 3 years and have spent X amount of dollars ... get first crack?
That sounds great to me! :D

[Alice Adrenochrome]

No, I think the key is to reward loyal customers, and stop complaining if you aren't one yet.

That's a the way to welcome new board members! :nono

[RoboDad]

That's a the way to welcome new board members! :nono
Oops. :o Posts were flying so fast I didn't even notice. My apologies.

[The Josh]

No, I think the key is to reward loyal customers, and stop complaining if you aren't one yet.

Can't say I disagree. Nothing against newbies but as someone who's been ordering from SS directly for 3+ years and spent a lot of money this is a nice thanks.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Anyway, time to toss in the Phantom Menace DVD and watch Darth Maul getting his butt kicked!!! :D

[darthviper107]

No, I think the key is to reward loyal customers, and stop complaining if you aren't one yet.

But the thing is that it doesn't, it rewards only loyal costumers who have bought a PF before.

[The Josh]

But the thing is that it doesn't, it rewards only loyal costumers who have bought a PF before.

If you've bought a SW PF before. Nothing wrong with rewarding those who've bought one from SS.

[RoboDad]

But the thing is that it doesn't, it rewards only loyal costumers who have bought a PF before.
I understand your point, but this is a very common approach to customer rewards. Targeting customers of specific product lines tends to increase future sales of that product line. It might not make it easier to take for other customers, but it's known to work.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

I like it if Sideshow shows some appreciation for doing business with then, just not like this. Not with constructing a system that excludes others.

[RoboDad]

Well, as Dave pointed out, if no one were ever excluded, they couldn't call the products exclusives. Besides, there are always going to be more collectors than there are pieces made, so there are always people excluded, no matter what you (or they) do.

[LOTRFan]

But the thing is that it doesn't, it rewards only loyal costumers who have bought a PF before.

Flip this around though, won't you. What if SS rewarded ALL customers, or those who had purchased a PF in the last year or so. Couldn't I then object that just because you bought Buffy, you should have first dibs on Maul. To me it makes perfect sense to stay in the specific license.

[JohnyBoo]

I like the rewarding of loyal customers. They cannot please everyone and I do feel sorry for those who may be left out. But it does happen with exclusives in all their lines of products. A fact of life for collectors.

[Batty]

This thread turned into the one we already had. :rolleyes:

[darthviper107]

Well, the exclusives are meant to try to get people to buy from Sideshow directly instead of buying for less from another retailer.


Flip this around though, won't you. What if SS rewarded ALL customers, or those who had purchased a PF in the last year or so. Couldn't I then object that just because you bought Buffy, you should have first dibs on Maul. To me it makes perfect sense to stay in the specific license.
That doesn't make sense, if you flipped it around it would exclude the people who bought SW PF's...

If you did it normally (with newsletter subscribers) then it doesn't mean that people who haven't bought a SW PF get first dibs before someone who has, and it's not causing a problem for Sideshow.

Perhaps a better 'reward' for buying a PF would be a coupon or something. Where if you've bought an Exclusive PF then they would give you like a $20 coupon or something. That way all people who wanted to buy one would have a chance at getting it and it would reward PF customers without makine new PF customers mad.

[LOTRFan]

That doesn't make sense, if you flipped it around it would exclude the people who bought SW PF's...

Exactly! It does make sense then. Since this is in fact a SW PF, one ought to think that those who have purchased such items in the past would be the ones being rewarded. If all you have purchased are PFs from other lines, then in this case, SS has deemed that it shouldn't be a level playing field. Reward those who have bought like items, not just in a general sense.

[Agent0028]

Perhaps a better 'reward' for buying a PF would be a coupon or something. Where if you've bought an Exclusive PF then they would give you like a $20 coupon or something.
I'm all for coupons.

[The Josh]

Like Matt said rewarding those who have bought SW PF on this first two hours is a nice thank you. Rewarding buyers from a specific license is not a bad thing honestly. Happens all the time in all kinds of businesses. I've gotten plenty of items in the mail saying I get a certain % off of Nike items because I buy a lot of Nike Items. Should people who don't get mad? No, they shouldn't.

[darthviper107]

Exactly! It does make sense then. Since this is in fact a SW PF, one ought to think that those who have purchased such items in the past would be the ones being rewarded. If all you have purchased are PFs from other lines, then in this case, SS has deemed that it shouldn't be a level playing field. Reward those who have bought like items, not just in a general sense.

Trying to switch it to only people who have ordered non-Star Wars PF's wouldn't make any sense, they aren't hardly even related. And it would still restrict people that have bought other Star Wars stuff.

I think Coupons would be a good idea.

[Lord Aykroyd]

I have an even better idea than coupons!

Better exclusives!

Seriously, mouse droids - training remotes - probe droids ...

give me a removable DV helmet, retractable sabers, or the ability to pose Maul in his Tatooine or Theed Stances (cloak included) any day.

I'd even pay 50-75 more.

For gawd sakes - I mean a Mandelorian artifact? :confused:

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[LOTRFan]

Trying to switch it to only people who have ordered non-Star Wars PF's wouldn't make any sense, they aren't hardly even related. And it would still restrict people that have bought other Star Wars stuff.

You are actually arguing my point for me, though I am not sure you realize it or not. ;)

There are some who are upset because they haven't purchased a SW PF yet, and Maul was to be their first. These customers are upset that their total purchases aren't being factored in, rather only what SW PFs they have or haven't purchased.

:wave

[The Josh]

Trying to switch it to only people who have ordered non-Star Wars PF's wouldn't make any sense, they aren't hardly even related. And it would still restrict people that have bought other Star Wars stuff.

I think Coupons would be a good idea.

So as long as its open to everyone it's ok? You do realize though exclusive means not everyone will have one? So what they're saying is if you've bought one from us in the past we're gonna give you a shot to snag one before someone who might just be getting it for kicks. Honestly, it sounds like to me the folks who dont order SW PF from SS are drinking a big glass of sour grapes.

[darthviper107]

There are probably people that are interested in buying the Exclusive PF than just people who have bought a SW PF before. I think they should get that chance (and I wouldn't switch it around either where only people who have gotten a non-sw PF could order, that's stupid no matter what you think and we all know that) And Exclusive means that it's exclusive to Sideshow Direct only, as I said it's to get more people to order directly from Sideshow and not to give only a limited amount of people something extra.

And while I am arguing that it should be allowed for all subscribers like normal, I don't think it's all that big of an issue since there will probably be some available after the 2 hour window is done. And the exclusive isn't amazing so people aren't restricted from ordering the figure at all.

[darth dypshyt]

I see, so its basically like Tom said, none of the others have appealed to you. I can understand that. I hope you're able to get one. I'm sure you will even if it is via the waitlist. Good luck with it. And look on the bright side, after this you won't have to worry about it if you want another SW figure.

Thanks for the wishes Agent..I have my fingers crossed..

[darth dypshyt]

Well, as Dave pointed out, if no one were ever excluded, they couldn't call the products exclusives. Besides, there are always going to be more collectors than there are pieces made, so there are always people excluded, no matter what you (or they) do.

They are "exclusive', because of what the products includes..not, because of who can purchase it...:D

[Darth Rage]

No matter how it is done, someone will say it's not fair. Someone will always feel slighted. It's good for Sideshow to reward customers like this. They even did it with an exclusive that most people said they didn't want in the first place. I imagine a buddy thread will emerge if it hasn't already. Use your connections people, board members here have helped out before.

[The Mike]

This method is interesting, its a great way to give a little something to loyal fans but then prohibits new fans from joining the bandwagon at this point in time....I'm not sure if I'd buy the Maul PF but I'd like the opportunity

[DarkArtist81]

This method is interesting, its a great way to give a little something to loyal fans but then prohibits new fans from joining the bandwagon at this point in time....I'm not sure if I'd buy the Maul PF but I'd like the opportunity

Yeah, that's what kinda ticks me off too... Boba will be my first PF... and mostly because I came after Vader and I only have liked the villians so far. Grievous I would have gotten but he was too expensive for me at the time.

I'm a loyal fan, just haven't been able to buy PF's until recently.... Feel kinda left out on this one. It probably won't sell out before I have a shot, but I still don't like not even having a chance if it does.

[RoboDad]

They are "exclusive', because of what the products includes..not, because of who can purchase it...:D
They are exclusive because of what the product includes, and where they can be bought, and the limited number that are made (which means that most people will be excluded from buying one). ;)

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Well, as Dave pointed out, if no one were ever excluded, they couldn't call the products exclusives. Besides, there are always going to be more collectors than there are pieces made, so there are always people excluded, no matter what you (or they) do. That's not the point. Sideshow named these items exclusives, because they are only available through their site, but still accessible to everyone who can afford them; they aren't called exclusive because they are only accessible to a selective audience that somehow qualified. That is a significant difference. In the first case everybody has a shot at buying the item. In the second case, only some appointed people are free to buy the item.
You call that a reward, I say they are dividing collectors in classes. If they want to reward their clients, let them reward ALL their clients, not only a selective group of clients. That is what is bugging me about their "new" approach.
With this new Maul Exclusive offer, Sideshow literally forces their fans to buy before they can ... buy! Now that is some business plan! - We will sell you exclusive quality peanut butter today, only if you bought bread from us yesterday. Otherwise you have to settle with the regular quality peanut butter; and it makes no difference how much bolony you bought from us in the past.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

They are exclusive because of what the product includes, and where they can be bought, and the limited number that are made (which means that most people will be excluded from buying one). ;)

That might be so, but as long as these people had a fair shot at the item, it's ok. That's part of the hunting game; you know: you win some and you loose some. But if you start excluding people even before that, by not even allowing them to buy the item, that's foul!

[hairlesswookiee]

i totally hate this idea. because i joined the frenzy after they all came out i had to buy from outside retailers. and the ones that haven't been released yet just don't appeal to me. i hope this is the first and last time they use this method because if this is the way they do it, i think i'll just drop the line completely. just don't seem fair to me that my chances are limited to getting one even though i currently own all but one of their currently released PF. it also seems like they are forcing the newcomers to buy something they don't want to get something they do want. i also find it extremely strange that they keep testing the new methods of ordering on possibly the most popular character in the movie franchise....so if you are a Darth Maul fan you keep getting bent over one way or another.

[Darth Loki]

I've gotten 5 exclusives direct from SS. But I'd much rather save $40-50 and get this from a retailer. I'm a bit disappointed that they would just rehash the same exclusive as the 12", and I cancelled those.

[DarkArtist81]

i totally hate this idea. because i joined the frenzy after they all came out i had to buy from outside retailers. and the ones that haven't been released yet just don't appeal to me. i hope this is the first and last time they use this method because if this is the way they do it, i think i'll just drop the line completely. just don't seem fair to me that my chances are limited to getting one even though i currently own all but one of their currently released PF. it also seems like they are forcing the newcomers to buy something they don't want to get something they do want. i also find it extremely strange that they keep testing the new methods of ordering on possibly the most popular character in the movie franchise....so if you are a Darth Maul fan you keep getting bent over one way or another.

Ditto man!!! Totally agree. I've been a loyal SDCC "Acolyte" since first I found them, and I have purchased so much swag from them since that day... forsaking food and other things to make sure and own the items I loved. The PF's have been nice, but not exactly ones I wanted so far. Luke/Yoda I DO want... but had to cancel for Jabba. Boba Fett is on order and is going to start charging next week for my first Flexpay.... and yet I am left out of the bracket for ordering one of my favorite characters of all time from SSC???

Doesn't make much sense. I know it's cool for those who DID order those items, but what about those who came late and are just looking for certain characters and not the entire line? Yeah, I know... we will still be able to find him and it takes a PF a while to sell out... but that is not the point.

The point is that we are left out at all.... Even though we are still fans and are clamoring for this piece. Just sucks IMO.....

I understand it from a business standpoint... but still makes me mad. :monkey4

[PosterBoyKelly]

I think it's lame too, I mean just because you've purchased these FROM SS in the past makes you hardcore? Really? You're really saying you're a bigger fan and deserve the first crack? What about new comers? I mean I didn't know they even made PF's until like a year ago, does that make me some sort of unworthy chump? I'm glad this is for Maul, cause' I can care less, but if this happened with Palpatine I'd drive to California during shipping day and steal 1. I'd be so ticked I wouldn't even want to pay for it.

Plus what's wrong with the good ol' regular PPO? It's a matter of 1st come 1st serve and if you really are a hardcore fan you get your a** in the game and get it. You take off work or go in late if need be, or you get some 1 to do it for you if you can't. It's a hard THUG life being a SW collector, but aint it worth it?

[Customikey]

Elites within elites. Whatever. I'm still not a PF man, so I'm not really worried about this. Thinking about it if they tried to do this with the 12" scale...yeah, I'd be a bit ticked, but THE WAITLIST WORKS!

[The Josh]

Again there is nothing wrong with doing a rewards thing with the fans that have bought SW PF directly. It does not divide collectors into two groups. This isn't the rich vs the poort. Its just simply saying thanks to those who have spent their money directly with SS. As I said in another post I've gotten stuff like that for other companies because I've bought direct. It hurts nobody honestly to reward certain customers honestly its fair. It's no different than the Rewards Points Program IMO because if you buy direct from SS you're getting a reward compared to those who prefer save money by ordering with retailers. Should those folks be upset because they're buying SS stuff and not getting points. Also what about those that buy stuff during a PPO. We know about it because we're loyal customers who are also newsletter subscribers. Should those that buy from SS who for some reason (living under a rock :lol) that don't know and miss it.

Rewarding means some group won't fit in for whatever reason basically.

[geto10]

I have purchased a PF directly from Sideshow and I would like to order Darth Maul EX.

[DarkArtist81]

It's ok I guess... but it just sucks that some of the flippers who have bought PF's before will have a shot before I will. But I understand what you mean Josh. It's a perk for those who did order before.... and at least AFTER Boba ships I won't have to worry about it anymore.

But there had better still be Exclusives available afterwards or I am gonna be PISSED. :monkey4

:lol

[The Josh]

Right it sucks donkey balls that flippers are gonna be apart of this. That's the bad part of any rewards program like this is that those looking to take advantage will.

[customizerwannabe]

I've ordered a Star Wars PF direct, but this exclusive is lame. Another droid. Ho hum. I'm gonna save some dough and buy it on ebay. This is about as exciting to me as a mountable mandolarian wall ornament.:rolleyes: The PF itself rocks though!! BTW, even though I won't be one, flippers have the same right as the rest to order this. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[The Josh]

BTW, even though I won't be one, flippers have the same right as the rest to order this. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Guess that depends on how you look at flippers. Sure they have the right to order but they still suck donkey balls.

[El Roranous]

Guess that depends on how you look at flippers. Sure they have the right to order but they still suck donkey balls.
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[customizerwannabe]

Pretty judgemental for a mod. I've flipped before. If you think anyone that flips "sucks donkey balls", they made a poor choice for a new moderator.

[The Josh]

Nice pic.

I'm not a mod here. So throws that one out the window. :lol People wanna talk about how sale methods like this hurt collectors. Well, flippers hurt collectors as much IMO.

[DarkArtist81]

Well, when I say "Flippers" I don't mean those who have sold figures or statues for profit.

I mean those who buy something with the sole intention of making profit, without ever even thinking that they might own said item and keep it on the shelf. Those people just make me angry... they drain collectors financially and are no better than the common Leech. :monkey1

I myself have sold things for far more than they were worth, as the market called for it. But they were usually sold in desperation and only after I had that item for a while. Everytime I did sell that item I hated selling and wished I could keep it. Never just used it as a meal ticket item with no intentions of keeping it.... that's just wrong IMO...

[The Josh]

Well, when I say "Flippers" I don't mean those who have sold figures or statues for profit.

I mean those who buy something with the sole intention of making profit, without ever even thinking that they might own said item and keep it on the shelf. Those people just make me angry... they drain collectors financially and are no better than the common Leech. :monkey1

I myself have sold things for far more than they were worth, as the market called for it. But they were usually sold in desperation and only after I had that item for a while. Everytime I did sell that item I hated it and wished I could keep it. Never just used it as a meal ticket item with no intentions of keeping it.... that's just wrong IMO...

That's what I meant as well. Everyone has had to sell something at one point.

[customizerwannabe]

My bad. Thought you were the new mod. In that case, of course, negate past comments. Darth R. Get a life dude.

[lcummins]

I for one don't like it!!! Some have stated this is to reward loyal customers, but if you buy every non-exclusive Sideshow product put out, from a retailer, are you not a loyal Sideshow customer? They counter with that you are not worried about exclusives then, so what's the problem; well, maybe you didn't like any of the exclusives before, but you do like this one.

And then, we have the argument that it is no different than the Rewards Program! Well, I hate to tell you, but it is!! With the Rewards Program, you are making a conscious decision to buy from a retailer and not earn points. With the Maul pre-order, it's not your choice anymore, it's Sideshow's. They didn't tell you that you needed to have ordered another PF in the past to be eligible, so you are left out.

Again, as many have stated, why not just leave it as "First come, first served"! That works well, isn't broken, doesn't leave out a segment of your customers, doesn't penalize anyone, even new customers in any way, etc., etc., etc.

Really, should it be this much frustration just to buy a collectible when it is brand new? And for those wondering, yes I qualify to buy, but I still don't like it, because there may come a time when I don't! Have those who like this method thought of that? What if they did this with a brand new license and based requirements off of another existing license? Sound absurd? It's not! They do that in the automotive industry all the time; allocations to dealerships are based on what they've bought and sold in the past. The PT Cruiser allocations in the first year were based off of Neon sales, even though the two vehicles really have nothing in common! Think about it...

[El Roranous]

My bad. Thought you were the new mod. In that case, of course, negate past comments. Darth R. Get a life dude.
...or should I get some
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w288/the_zombie_doc/DonkeyBallsMocha.gif

:rotfl :rotfl
No need to flip out dude, I am just trying to lighten the mood around here. This is a great community and I hate to see people fight over silly things. Everyone should be friends and respect the opinions of others. Long live the freaks-I love it here. :D

[El Roranous]

Gotta love Donkey Balls...:D
:rock :rock :rock

[The Josh]

I for one don't like it!!! Some have stated this is to reward loyal customers, but if you buy every non-exclusive Sideshow product put out, from a retailer, are you not a loyal Sideshow customer? They counter with that you are not worried about exclusives then, so what's the problem; well, maybe you didn't like any of the exclusives before, but you do like this one.

No, I don't think that because they didnt buy direct from SS that they're not loyal. It's about having bought direct from SS and spending your money directly with them. It doesn't say anyplace that you had to buy exclusive SW PF from them. You could have done it with the regulars.

And then, we have the argument that it is no different than the Rewards Program! Well, I hate to tell you, but it is!! With the Rewards Program, you are making a conscious decision to buy from a retailer and not earn points. With the Maul pre-order, it's not your choice anymore, it's Sideshow's. They didn't tell you that you needed to have ordered another PF in the past to be eligible, so you are left out.

The buyer has made the choice to buy not from SS but a retailer giving up any chance that something like this may happen. SS did not put a gun to anyones head and say buy from us and not from retailers. When you choose to buy outside of SS you give up the rights for events like this.

Again, as many have stated, why not just leave it as "First come, first served"! That works well, isn't broken, doesn't leave out a segment of your customers, doesn't penalize anyone, even new customers in any way, etc., etc., etc.

I don't know. I would have left it as is honestly.

Really, should it be this much frustration just to buy a collectible when it is brand new? And for those wondering, yes I qualify to buy, but I still don't like it, because there may come a time when I don't! Have those who like this method thought of that? What if they did this with a brand new license and based requirements off of another existing license? Sound absurd? It's not! They do that in the automotive industry all the time; allocations to dealerships are based on what they've bought and sold in the past. The PT Cruiser allocations in the first year were based off of Neon sales, even though the two vehicles really have nothing in common! Think about it...

Isn't this all part of the thrill of the hunt? I've been told about by so many collectors over the last few years. It makes it cooler(for lack of a better word) to have to go through this type of thing. Honestly, it doesnt for me. I just want my item and go on my merry way. Sure it could happen to us. Probably not but it could. If it does. It does. If SS did that type of move everyone would have the right to complain. The start of a line you should give everyone a chance because there is no history for that line.

[El Roranous]

Isn't this all part of the thrill of the hunt? I've been told about by so many collectors over the last few years. It makes it cooler(for lack of a better word) to have to go through this type of thing. Honestly, it doesnt for me. I just want my item and go on my merry way. Sure it could happen to us. Probably not but it could. If it does. It does. If SS did that type of move everyone would have the right to complain. The start of a line you should give everyone a chance because there is no history for that line.
I agree with you on this, it really isn't about the thrill of the hunt for me. Just give me my item and let me be on my way. I don't want to play any games.

[RoboDad]

I for one don't like it!!! Some have stated this is to reward loyal customers, but if you buy every non-exclusive Sideshow product put out, from a retailer, are you not a loyal Sideshow customer?
Sorry, Lonnie, but the answer to your question is "no". Someone who makes the choice to buy their Sideshow collectibles from a dealer other that Sideshow itself is not a "loyal Sideshow customer". They may be a consumer of Sideshow's products, just as someone who buys them from eBay, but they aren't a customer at all. Whatever purchases they have made haven't contributed anything toward Sideshow's bottom line.

If you buy used Ford cars from classified ads, and that's the only type of car you ever buy, does that make you a loyal Ford customer? Nope. Ford doesn't know you, and shouldn't feel obligated to offer you a perk toward the purchase of a new car. You haven't demonstrated in the past any desire or commitment to purchasing new Ford products.

The same goes for Sideshow. People who haven't purchased Star Wars PFs directly from them have never demonstrated the desire to do so, so why should they be rewarded the same as someone who has?

[TheObsoleteMan]

Sorry, Lonnie, but the answer to your question is "no". Someone who makes the choice to buy their Sideshow collectibles from a dealer other that Sideshow itself is not a "loyal Sideshow customer". They may be a consumer of Sideshow's products, just as someone who buys them from eBay, but they aren't a customer at all. Whatever purchases they have made haven't contributed anything toward Sideshow's bottom line.Really? So those other online retailers don't pay Sideshow anything for their product. That's very generous of Sideshow to just give their stuff away like that.

[DarkArtist81]

But it's leaving people in the dark who may have not have had a job that paid enough to even AFFORD the PF's.... but now do....

What about those people? Does making the decision to not own Leia, Luke, Han, Vader or Grievous make one less deserving of owning Maul? Vader I would have bought had I been around. Greivous, as cool as he was... wasn't my cup of tea as far as collectibles of him go. So where does that leave me?

Out in the cold. And that blows.

I purchase what I like, when I can afford it. That's all. And always from SSC, not from other places. Because I like to support the "Home Team" so to speak. It just makes me feel a little left out when all of a sudden I can't order an item I've been waiting for since the beginning. I don't collect the heroes in PF form... only the villains... just my way of doing things. So this sucks for me....

This should be available to anyone.... period. Whoever comes and wants to put in his bid during the PPO process. Not segmented into those who are "old hands" at the PF game.... New hands need a start too, and when you seperate things it starts getting unfair...

And that is what this is... Unfair.

[FlyAndFight]

Previously, the only reason for purchasing an item directly from Sideshow were:

1. Customer Service (in case of a damaged piece.)
2. Exclusive item(s) included, not available elsewhere.

Sideshow decided that they wanted a bigger piece of the action so they:

1. Charged more for exclusive pieces.
2. Initiated the Rewards program.
3. Cut back on dealer allocations.
4. Now offering incentives for inhouse purchases.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, I've looked into Galadriel's mirror and have seen what the future may bring:

Sideshow will eventually take ALL sales in-house and eliminate the dealers from the equation. Nothing technically wrong with that (dealers may not agree...) and a savvy business move. Just be prepared for the possibility.

[pixletwin]

Meh. The whole thing is just a marketing gimmick. I wouldn't be surprised if after the PPO for previous PF buyers is over that there will be plenty left over for everyone else who wants one bad enough.

[DarkArtist81]

Meh. The whole thing is just a marketing gimmick. I wouldn't be surprised if after the PPO for previous PF buyers is over that there will be plenty left over for everyone else who wants one bad enough.

That's what I am thinking....and hoping... :o

[hairlesswookiee]

But it's leaving people in the dark who may have not have had a job that paid enough to even AFFORD the PF's.... but now do....

What about those people? Does making the decision to not own Leia, Luke, Han, Vader or Grievous make one less deserving of owning Maul? Vader I would have bought had I been around. Greivous, as cool as he was... wasn't my cup of tea as far as collectibles of him go. So where does that leave me?

Out in the cold. And that blows.

I purchase what I like, when I can afford it. That's all. And always from SSC, not from other places. Because I like to support the "Home Team" so to speak. It just makes me feel a little left out when all of a sudden I can't order an item I've been waiting for since the beginning. I don't collect the heroes in PF form... only the villains... just my way of doing things. So this sucks for me....

This should be available to anyone.... period. Whoever comes and wants to put in his bid during the PPO process. Not segmented into those who are "old hands" at the PF game.... New hands need a start too, and when you seperate things it starts getting unfair...

And that is what this is... Unfair.

I'm with DA on this one. i can only buy the ones that i can afford. last summer i had extra spending money so i got crazy and bought just about every SW PF out except the grievous because he was way too much money. no offense to anyone that has it, but the recently released Luke and Yoda just doesn't do it for me. and Boba isn't on my favorites list so i don't need to get him. if they pull this crap when they release a Dooku or Palpatine PF i swear on all the Kurgans dirty underwear that i will sell all Sideshow items that i own, cancel all my preorders and go elsewhere with my collection and MONEY.

[TheObsoleteMan]

Sideshow will eventually take ALL sales in-house and eliminate the dealers from the equation. Nothing technically wrong with that (dealers may not agree...) and a savvy business move. Just be prepared for the possibility.If they're going to start penalizing customers who buy from other retailers then that's what they should do.

[RoboDad]

Really? So those other online retailers don't pay Sideshow anything for their product. That's very generous of Sideshow to just give their stuff away like that.
Sure, those dealers paid Sideshow for the items they bought. But did they pay as much as Sideshow's retail customers? Nope. And using my Ford analogy, if you buy a used Ford, didn't someone, somewhere have to have paid Ford for that car when it was new? Of course, but that doesn't mean you did. And sorry, but it still doesn't make you a customer, just a consumer (and there's a big difference).

[anakin1138]

It's a fair method as I don't think people who have bought no pfs until now has the past exclusives so It's fair for those who have the whole exclusives to complete the collection.

[lcummins]

Sorry, Lonnie, but the answer to your question is "no". Someone who makes the choice to buy their Sideshow collectibles from a dealer other that Sideshow itself is not a "loyal Sideshow customer". They may be a consumer of Sideshow's products, just as someone who buys them from eBay, but they aren't a customer at all. Whatever purchases they have made haven't contributed anything toward Sideshow's bottom line.

If you buy used Ford cars from classified ads, and that's the only type of car you ever buy, does that make you a loyal Ford customer? Nope. Ford doesn't know you, and shouldn't feel obligated to offer you a perk toward the purchase of a new car. You haven't demonstrated in the past any desire or commitment to purchasing new Ford products.

The same goes for Sideshow. People who haven't purchased Star Wars PFs directly from them have never demonstrated the desire to do so, so why should they be rewarded the same as someone who has?


Sure, those dealers paid Sideshow for the items they bought. But did they pay as much as Sideshow's retail customers? Nope. And using my Ford analogy, if you buy a used Ford, didn't someone, somewhere have to have paid Ford for that car when it was new? Of course, but that doesn't mean you did. And sorry, but it still doesn't make you a customer, just a consumer (and there's a big difference).

RoboDad, I usually agree with you on issues, but not this time! Using your own arguments, you've proved yourself wrong! When you buy from a retailer, it is just like buying from a car dealership; you are a Sideshow customer, plain and simple!!! When you buy that used Ford, you are not a Ford customer, the original buyer was, but that is not the case when buying Sideshow from a retailer; that is the same as buying from that dealership! Sideshow has "official" retailers and they have to meet certain requirements to become one. If I buy from one of them, it is just like buying from Sideshow, except I pay less! Sideshow is already rewarding people who pay more by buying from them, with the Rewards Program. In this case, it's not the same! You can only buy Maul if you've purchased a previous SW PF, but not from one of their "official" retailers! Nope, doesn't work for me!!!

[hairlesswookiee]

It's a fair method as I don't think people who have bought no pfs until now has the past exclusives so It's fair for those who have the whole exclusives to complete the collection.

i do... i didn't have any until i started buying them, now i have 3 exclusives and two more on the way. because i bought them from someone else later i should be excluded from having a chance??

~~to be honest i'm not interested in the Darth Maul exclusive, but the thought that this might continue for the rest of their releases frightens me and is making me considering my future purchases from them.

[mfoga]

Heres my 2 cents on this. If you have only bought retailers you have decided agianst the exclusive on all of those purchases. Either you didn't like exclusive or you wanted to save money. Yes SS makes money on those too but as much, you have to remeber retailers are getting these at a discounted price I would guess at least 25% since they seem to be giving at least 10% off retail. So you have decided in the past to buy these elsewhere but those of us who buy direct to get the exclusives should have first crack the new exclusives every once in a while. If this is the first exclusive you wanted that sucks, but lay off the whole I got to the game late and couldn't get them from SS so I bought them elsewhere. I have been collecting since the last SDCC and have bought 5 SW PFs direct from sideshow all but one was the exclusive.

[mfoga]

You can only buy Maul if you've purchased a previous SW PF, but not from one of their "official" retailers! Nope, doesn't work for me!!!


You can buy Maul just not the exclusive. You be able to purchase the same thing you have in the past the PF just not the exclusive PF.

[The Josh]

You can still purchase the exclusive as well. It just has to be after the two hours is up.

[mfoga]

You can still purchase the exclusive as well. It just has to be after the two hours is up.
Exactly but even if the exclusives are gone they are not being completely shutout.

[Polystoner]

...or should I get some
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Man, I've been eating these for years without realizing what they were. :lol

[El Roranous]

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[El Roranous]

All you people that want this exclusive will get it if you order it that day or get on the wait list soon after. :cool:

[DarkArtist81]

I still think it's messed up.... I just don't think it's right to exclude anyone from purchasing an item for sale. That would be like me refusing repaints on a certain figure unless you were a repeat customer of a certain line of figure repaints....

I understand the principle, but still am not happy about it. I still would very much like to have this PF and the Exclusive at that. Or at least a better chance. I know everything will probably still be ok... but doesn't really change anything.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

I'm done arguing about this. I've made my point, some agree with me, some don't, and some just don't understand or care. Sideshow, read this thread and come to a conclusion.

[El Roranous]

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w288/the_zombie_doc/sorry_we_are_closed_b.jpg
The End.

[NASEDO]

This is a great idea from Sideshow, I remember getting a similar email for a PF horror figure, since I ordered others from SS, but this was awhile back, nice to this idea back again.

I have not ordered the Luke/Yoda and I'm thinking about canceling Fett to buy elsewhere. Why should I order these from SS when I can get them much cheaper on ebay or at a dealer. This is why I like the idea of the Maul PF, I'm happy to place an order with SS. This a great idea, I don't think he will Sellout fast, nice edition size. Glad its not 5000.

[Darklord Dave]

mfoga has an excellent point- if you've only bought from retailers before then you weren't interested in the exclusives previously and this shut out on Maul should mean less than nothing to you, since you would have only gotten the regular from a retailer anyway.

________
As for flippers sucking donkey balls - a lot of people have bought something and then later decided they didn't need it in their collection - that's fine. It's the scalpers - those people that buy perceived rare items for the sole purpose of charging real collectors above retail for it that suck donkey balls.

[El Roranous]

Dave are you talking about these...
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[hairlesswookiee]

I still think it's messed up.... I just don't think it's right to exclude anyone from purchasing an item for sale. That would be like me refusing repaints on a certain figure unless you were a repeat customer of a certain line of figure repaints....

I understand the principle, but still am not happy about it. I still would very much like to have this PF and the Exclusive at that. Or at least a better chance. I know everything will probably still be ok... but doesn't really change anything.

lol... i think you should keep a list of everyone that supports this idea so if they ever request a paint or repaint you can say "no, sorry but you are not a repeat customer of the Dark Artist rewards program."

[Vader AL]

I've gotten 5 exclusives direct from SS. But I'd much rather save $40-50 and get this from a retailer. I'm a bit disappointed that they would just rehash the same exclusive as the 12", and I cancelled those.

i'm disapointed with the exclusive too.....but I have no idea what a good exclusive for maul would be. saber does light up, right?

[hairlesswookiee]

mfoga has an excellent point- if you've only bought from retailers before then you weren't interested in the exclusives previously and this shut out on Maul should mean less than nothing to you, since you would have only gotten the regular from a retailer anyway.
ok i have a question... there is a dealer here that has a grievous exclusive listed on their website. if i buy from him would this put me in the "qualified" status for the exclusive Maul?? he is an authorized dealer and it is a SW PF exclusive.

[The Josh]

ok i have a question... there is a dealer here that has a grievous exclusive listed on their website. if i buy from him would this put me in the "qualified" status for the exclusive Maul?? he is an authorized dealer and it is a SW PF exclusive.

No, it says buying direct from SS. It's also NOT buying exclusives from SS it's buying PF from SS. You could have bought a regular and it would have counted.

[mfoga]

ok i have a question... there is a dealer here that has a grievous exclusive listed on their website. if i buy from him would this put me in the "qualified" status for the exclusive Maul?? he is an authorized dealer and it is a SW PF exclusive.

Well not reallly since that is actually a secondary market item its no different then buying from ebay. That is also a rare case since retailers don't get more then a few of those and thats if they have more then one person buysing from them.

[Agent0028]

I still think this is a good idea, I do think that people who buy exclusives directly from sideshow should get a crack at figures before people who always get the regulars from dealers or exclusives from ebay. BUT I do feel bad for people who got into it late, didn't want any of the figures before for whatever reason, or didn't have the money before. I'm not one to throw around the word fair, but this does seem to be unfair to them. The best advice I can offer is to get on the waitlist ASAP. I got on the PF Leia waitlist in mid to late March and got one even though she was available to order in November. So I would expect that getting on the waitlist the same day ordering begins should make you safe. Either way Good Luck.

[Alice Adrenochrome]

Agent, I don't agree with you there, I still think this new SSC manoeuvre SUX SUX SUX, but I LOVE LOVE LOVE your sig! Dean rocks! Still does!

[Seaward]

Back in the day of collecting the SSW line, I would have loved for an opportunity to "subscribe" to collecting the entire line. Since this is not really possible, I do like the idea of rewarding customers whow express an interest in ordering from Sideshow directly. I have ordered from them for the exclusives for my 1:6 scale collecting, and I will order from them directly for the LOTR PF line given their customer service. If I received a special invitation to order whatever LOTR PF might be next because I ordered Lurtz and Frodo from them, I would certainly be tickled. I wouldn't want to exclude other collectors, but it would be nice to be rewarded for having a long standing positive relationship with Sideshow.

[tomandshell]

I admit that this is an issue for latecomers.

Fett doesnt count because he hasn't shipped, so the last Star Wars PF that was up for sale was Luke & Yoda last May, and people might have skipped him because he was a duplicate character. After that, you are talking about Leia, who was sold in late 2005.

So this approach really is directed towards long time customers and completists. Sideshow seems to have made a conscious decision about that. Personally, as a long time customer and completist, I'm glad to know that my order is virtually guaranteed. I really do believe that people who have been with a line--any line--since the beginning should be given priority. If the next SSE PF (the Bride) is offered exclusively to previous SSE customers for the first two hours, then I will applaud the decision. People like Lonnie deserve to have them all.

I can sympathize with those who will have to wait until noon to order. But I continue to believe that there will be several left over at noon. In fact, I don't even think that the low quantity alert bar will be up by then. PFs just don't sell that fast--even Star Wars PFs.

[Agent0028]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE your sig! Dean rocks! Still does!
Grazie. Now we just need to get him in PF form.

With a better sculpt/paint job than Elvis'. :monkey3

[mfoga]

So this approach really is directed towards long time customers and completists. Sideshow seems to have made a conscious decision about that. Personally, as a long time customer and completist, I'm glad to know that my order is virtually guaranteed. I really do believe that people who have been with a line--any line--since the beginning should be given priority. If the next SSE PF (the Bride) is offered exclusively to previous SSE customers for the first two hours, then I will applaud the decision. People like Lonnie deserve to have them all.



I disagree I am far from a long time customer and I have bought General Grievous , Han , Leia, Obi-Wan, and Luke/Yoda all from Sideshow directly and I started at last SDCC. There has been many Second chance offers and wait list conversions to get one single SW PF from them directly.

[tomandshell]

I disagree I am far from a long time customer and I have bought General Grievous , Han , Leia, Obi-Wan, and Luke/Yoda all from Sideshow directly and I started at last SDCC. There has been many Second chance offers and wait list conversions to get one single SW PF from them directly.

Hmm...

I eat my words! I forgot about Second Chance offers!!

Toss in those and the wait list orders, and your chances of getting a Star Wars PF (even an exclusive) direct from Sideshow just increased a lot.

[Darth Loki]

I don't think this will be an issue. The exclusive flat out sucks. That will keep a lot of people from getting this direct. 1000 is a lot for such a high dollar item. There will be plenty of Mauls left to those who want one. I'd be very surprised if someone didn't end up with one that wants one. It may have to be a wait list, but orders will get filled.

[tomandshell]

Luke Skywalker PF EX: 500 pieces
Han Solo PF EX: 250 pieces
Darth Vader PF EX: 2000 pieces
Obi-Wan Kenobi PF EX: 1250 pieces
General Grievous PF EX: 1500 pieces
Princess Leia PF EX: 1000 pieces
Luke & Yoda PF EX: 1150 pieces
Boba Fett PF EX: 2000 pieces
Darth Maul PF EX: 1000 pieces

I think that 1000 is a nice number for Maul. It actually ties with Princess Leia as the third lowest number in the line so far. It's far better than the 2000 for Fett, which also had the least popular exclusive. (EX Fett will be available as a second chance long after the discounted regular version has vanished from retailers.)

But I don't think that I would consider 1000 pieces to be "very low" as Sideshow has put it. 250 Hans and I still got mine off the wait list. 500 SDCC Lukes and you can get him for a lot less on eBay. Those numbers are "very low"--but with 1000 Mauls, everybody who wants one on Tuesday is going to get one. It took Leia days to sell out with the same ES. In fact, apart from the Han and Luke exclusives, I don't think there has been a single Star Wars PF that has sold out in a day, much less two hours. The initial rush takes care of maybe the first 1/2 to 2/3 of the edition size, and the last 100-300 sit around for a few days.

All this stress will prove to be for nothing.

[Kookie]

There's some cool pics on Rebelscum that show the Maul base more clearly. I thought the base was all black but it has a silver and black pattern...as Borat would say "NICE"