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Ok just saw this movie on DVD, I must say the first one was WAY better and I thought that the ending was very very very lame. I mean come on, how the hell does leatherface end up in the back seat? haha he must have time warp abilities.

Anyways, I know that this movie is "based on a true story", but I also know that with Hollywood 1% of the entire movie could be actual events and the other 99% fabricated completely yet they still say its based on a true story. So my question is to anyone who has more knowledge of the "real" story, what actually happend with this family and murders in real events?
 
This was based on serial killer Ed Gein. There are a number of books that detail his ways. I remember that when police caught him, he literally had items made out of skulls, flesh cooking on the stove, and pieces of people in the fridge.
 
so the family was totaly made up by hollywood then? Like in the movie how the sherrif or uncle is the one who basically condoned the killing of those people.
 
as far as the true story thing goes, you have to watch their use of the terminolgy.
Usually the line used in the TCM films is something like "Inspired by true events" if I remember right.

Im not sure any part of the story from any of the movies is supposed to be taken as "True Story" verbatim of the Ed Gein events.
Its just that the Gein story inspired the TCM movies
 
I am getting sick and tired of Hollywood taking liberties, most of which are false, when they release movies with the so-called labels, "Based on a True Story" and "Based on True Events." Not to mention the people who are easily dooped by those alleged labels and go, "Wow! That actually happened!"

Heck I even seen movies about aliens and ghosts that were supposedly based on true events. lol

I always cringe when I see that stuff. I am like, don't try to sell us on that idea.

P.S. Texas Chain Saw Massacre: The Beginning had one great thing going for it, Jordana Brewster in a string bikini. That's where the entire two stars for the movie went. ** out of 5.
 
Yeah man... I totally agree. I can't tell you how many times someone has come up to me and started talking about TCM being a true story and how "He may still be out there."....

I then try to explain the Ed Gein story to them and how Hollywood based the story on his methods and made it even more crazy and shocking.... And they never believe me, they always come back to that...

"But... But they said it was based on true events! Leatherface is different than your Ed guy..... You must have your stories mixed up!!"

:rolleyes:

Pisses me off.
 
I'm too lazy to look it up, but there are PAGES of people arguing that "it's true! My brother knew a guy who went to school with...". It's pretty ridiculous. These are the same people that think the b&w "police footage" from the 2003 film is legit.

I hate both of em. I love me the 1974 classic.
 
70sCinema said:
I hate both of em. I love me the 1974 classic.



ditto on that !!!! I cant stand those 2 films.But the 74' version is one of my all time favorite horror movie.
 
Loved TCM 1, 2, and 3. After that, not at all. 2 and 3 were just funny. Loved seeing Dennis Hopper lower himself that much. Must've needed drug money bad! The first is the only real horror movie. Ed Gein made some vile items out of human parts, but the chainsaw is hollywood along with the entire storyline. The only piece I have from SS is the PF as it really captures the first movie.
 
I've seen some of Gein's stuff. You wouldn't believe his Christmas wreath.

There's a film about him. Just NetFlix "Ed Gein" and keep a bucket handy.

I was kind of bored by the originals, to be honest. They didn't do much for me. Must be the way my brain works. The remake freaked me out. I loved the atmosphere and the timing of it. R. Lee scared the hell out of me, you know? Haven't seen the sequel. Not much interest.
 
Yeah, the story is very false. It wasn't even in texas, and I don't think he killed as many people as in the movies. And there was no chainsaw. The story also inspired more movies, like Silence of the Lambs and stuff. The guy was crazy, but luckily he's gone now.
 
2003 version was awesome but the 2006 version was extremely awesome, I can't see how any horror fan cannot like these movies. And even though it was said already, Not a single TCM is a true story(it's funny how easily people are fooled....), just inspired by Ed Gein, who didn't really act like Leatherface or live in texas......
 
Thanks for the input guys. Im not one to be so naive as to beleive hollywood, I just wanted to see where the lines between fact and fiction were drawn regarding this movie since I know nothing about Ed Gein. I'll do some googling.
 
darthviper107 said:
Yeah, the story is very false. It wasn't even in texas, and I don't think he killed as many people as in the movies. And there was no chainsaw. The story also inspired more movies, like Silence of the Lambs and stuff. The guy was crazy, but luckily he's gone now.
Wasn't Ed Gein in Wisconsin or something. I saw a story on him once late at night. That dude was seriously ****ed up.
 
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You could never image how many e-mails I get from people saying "Did you know the Texas Chainsaw Massacre is true" or "A friend of a friend was in jail with the real LEATHERFACE". Who ever thought of putting that intro at the beginning of TCM with the narration of John Larroquette forever engraved this untruth into the American psyche. I hate to break it to you all.... The Texas Chainsaw Massacre isn't a true story.
As a little boy, Tobe Hooper (the writer and director of TCM), while visiting relatives in Wisconsin, subconsciously suppressed the nightmarish tales of a reclusive farmer who was convicted for necrophila, cannibalism, and murder. These stories of Gein making masks from the skins of his victims and fashioning furniture from their bones filled this young boy's imaginations. Hooper was forever scarred, and the foundation for LEATHERFACE was firmly etched in his mind, something he didn't realize until after the fact...
The purpose of this page is to provide information on Ed Gein, the 'real' American Psycho. It is in "no way" to serve a tribute to this man or his ghastly deeds, but rather to recognize him as a source that forever shaped the way we watch horror today. He served as a model for many of the greatest villains to ever ravage across the silver screen: Norman Bates, LEATHERFACE, and the crazed killer, Buffalo Bill from "Silence of the Lambs". He deeds went on to influence the storytelling of such films as "Maniac", "Three on a Meathook", and "Deranged".

ED GEIN
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"I had a compulsion to do it."

Born at the turn of the century into the small farming community of Plainfield, Wisconsin, Gein lived a repressive and solitary life on his family homestead with a weak, ineffectual brother and domineering mother who taught him from an early age that sex was a sinful thing. Eddie ran the family's 160-acre farm on the outskirts of Plainfield until his brother Henry died in 1944 and his mother in 1945. When she died her son was a thirty-nine-year-old bachelor, still emotionally enslaved to the woman who had tyrannized his life. The rest of the house, however, soon degenerated into a madman's shambles. Thanks to federal subsidies, Gein no longer needed to farm his land, and he abandoned it to do odd jobs here and there for the Plainfield residents, to earn him a little extra cash. But he remained alone in the enormous farmhouse, haunted by the ghost of his overbearing mother, whose bedroom he kept locked and undisturbed, exactly as it had been when she was alive. He also sealed off the drawing room and five more upstairs rooms, living only in one downstairs room and the kitchen.
"Weird old Eddie", as the local community know him, had begun to develop a deeply unhealthy interest in the intimate anatomy of the female body - and interest that was fed by medical encyclopedias, books on anatomy, pulp horror novels and pornographic magazines. He became particularly interested in the atrocities committed by the Nazis during the Second World War and the medical experiments performed on Jews in the concentration camps. Soon he graduated on to the real thing by digging up decaying female corpses by night in far-flung Wisconsin cemeteries. These he would dissect and keep some parts heads, sex organs, livers, hearts and intestines. Then he would flay the skin from the body, draping it over a tailor's dummy or even wearing it himself to dance and cavort around the homestead - a practice that apparently gave him intense gratification. On other occasions, Gein took only the body parts that particularly interested him. He was especially fascinated by the excised female genitalia, which he would fondle and play with, sometimes stuffing them into a pair of women's panties, which he would then wear around the house. Not surprisingly, he quickly became a recluse in the community, discouraging any visitors from coming near his by now neglected and decaying farm. *picture removed by Mod*
Gein's fascination with the female body eventually led him to seek out fresher samples. His victims, usually women of his mother's age, included 54-year old Mary Hogan, who disappeared from the tavern she ran in December 1954, and Bernice Worden, a woman in her late fifties who ran the local hardware store, who disappeared on the 16th November 1957. Mrs. Worden's son Frank was also the sheriff's deputy, and upon learning that weird old Eddie Gein had been spotted in town on the day of his mother's disappearance, Frank Worden and the sheriff went to check out the old Gein place, already infamous amongst the local children as a haunted house.
There, the gruesome evidence proved that Gein's bizarre obsessions had finally exploded into murder, and much, much worse. In the woodshed of the farm was the naked, headless body of Bernice Worden, hanging upside down from a meat hook and slit open down the front. Her head and intestines were discovered in a box, and her heart on a plate in the dining room. The skins from ten human heads were found preserved, and another skin taken from the upper torso of a woman was rolled up on the floor. There was a belt fashioned from carved-off nipples, a chair upholstered in human skin, the crown of a skull used as a soup-bowl, lampshades covered in flesh pilled taut, a table propped up by a human shinbones, and a refrigerator full of human organs. The four posts on Gein's bed were topped with skulls and a human head hung on the wall alongside nine death-masks - the skinned faces of women - and decorative bracelets made out of human skin. The stunned searchers also uncovered a soup bowls fashioned from skulls, a shoebox full of female genitalia, faces stuffed with newspapers and mounted like hunting trophies on the walls, and a "mammary vest" flayed from the torso of a woman. Gein later confessed that he enjoyed dressing himself in this and other human-skin garments and pretending he was his own mother.
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The scattered remains of an estimated fifteen bodies were found at the farmhouse when Gein was eventually arrested, but he could not remember how many murders he had actually committed. The discovery of these Gothic horrors sent shock waves throughout Eisenhower-era America. In Wisconsin itself, Gein quickly entered local folklore. Within weeks of his arrest, macabre Jokes called "Geiners" became a statewide craze. The country as a whole learned about Gein in December 1957, when both Life and Time magazines ran features on his "house of horrors."

After ten years in a mental hospital, Gein was judged competent to stand trial. Although considered fit to stand trial, Eddie was found guilty, but criminally insane. He was first committed to the Central State Hospital at Waupon, and then in 1978 he was moved to the Mendota Mental Health Institute where he died in the geriatric ward in 1984, aged seventy-seven. It is said he was always a model prisoner - gentle, polite and discreet. He died of respiratory and heart failure in 1984.
By then, however, Gein had already achieved pop immortality, thanks to horror writer Robert Bloch, who had the inspired idea of creating a fictional character based on Gein-a deranged mama's boy named Norman Bates. In 1960, Alfred Hitch**** transformed Bloch's pulp chiller, "Psycho", into a cinematic masterpiece. Insofar as "Psycho" initiated the craze for "slasher" movies, Gein is revered by horror buffs as the the prototype of every knife-, axe-, and cleaver-wielding maniac who has stalked America's movie screens for the past thirty years.
There are some obvious similarities between Hitch****'s reclusive Norman Bates and the apparently inoffensive but secretly deranged, mother-fixated Gein. Hitch****'s "Psycho" led on, of course, to a plethora of pale imitators: "Psycho 2", written by Tom Holland and directed by Richard Franklin, "Psycho III" (1986), written by Charles Edward Pogue and directed by Anthony Perkins, and Mick Garris's "Psycho IV: The Beginning" (1990), which was made for cable TV, and went straight to video in Europe. The Gein case also provided a basis for the 1967 monster movie "It", ostensibly based on the mythical Jewish folk demon, the Golem, in which mad curator Roddy McDowall carries on conversations with the rotten corpse of his mother, which he keeps at home in her bed.
"The Texas Chain Saw Massacre... What happened is true! Now the movie that's just as real!", screamed the posters for Tobe Hooper's 1974 classic of independent cinema. Whilst not a literal rendition of the Gein case, the terrible house in Chain Saw, with its bizarre artifacts made out of human detritus - armchairs that bear human arms, lamps made out of human hands - resembles the Gein homestead in many of its particulars, and the crazy Leatherface, who hangs up his victims alive on meat hooks, also sports a grotesque mask fashioned from stitched together pieces of human skin. In Joseph Ellison's 1980 study of psychopathic child-abuse "Don't Go In The House", Donny (Dan Grimaldi) keeps the corpse of his religious fanatic mother in his apartment, and, as a consequence of her nasty habit of burning his arms when he misbehaved as a child, enjoys nothing better than bringing a young woman home and frying her up alive. In William Lustig's "Maniac" (1980), the eponymous Oedipal killer indulges in garroting, deception, shooting and scalping, with the murderer's scalp collection adorning a row of tailor's mannequins.
Gein's fondness for wearing human flesh resurfaced again in 1991 as one inspirations for the character Buffalo Bill in Jonathan Demme's "Silence of the Lambs", the homosexual psycho killer so named because he liked to "skin his humps". Gein was also the inspiration for the psycho-biopic "Deranged", a 1974 offering from American-International Pictures, co-written and co-directed by Alan Ormsby, and the lesser known but equally reverential "Three On A Meathook" (1973), directed by small-time auteur William Girdler and filmed in Louisville, Kentucky. It also seems likely that Jorg Buttgereit, a self-confessed "Geinophile", was influenced by Eddie's predilections whilst making his paeans to necrophilia, "Nekromantik" (1988) and "Nekromantik 2" (1991).

 
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Thanks for the history lesson. I feel like I am back in school again. Except this school is really ****ed up and about serial killers.:rotfl
 
Bannister said:
Thanks for the history lesson. I feel like I am back in school again. Except this school is really ****ed up and about serial killers.:rotfl

I would go to that school!
 
Yeah Gein was indeed VERY jacked up, but we can thank him for at least 2 of the greatest moder horror films of all time, Psycho and TCM.

Thanks Ed, you sick f**k!
 
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