View Full Version : GG-Elrond Bust
gambit
01-09-2007, 03:16 PM
Saw the prototype pic yesterday on the Turkish Collector forum but the admin removed the pic due it was requested by GG (he says)
The bust is from the ROTK scene where he is handing over the Narsil to Aragorn. The base is like the building columns of Rivendell. Anyone else saw this piece as well?
I will try to post pics as soon as it will be re-posted
Hoser
01-09-2007, 05:00 PM
sounds great! can't wait to see pics!
pordey2
01-09-2007, 05:14 PM
Cool!
:rock
Synergy
01-09-2007, 05:38 PM
Sounds very cool.............. This line is shaping up to the best LOTR bust line out there
gambit
01-09-2007, 06:28 PM
This line is shaping up to the best LOTR bust line out there
Taking into account there are not so many LOTR announcements, if SS will not speed up the PF series, GG will make nice profit with these busts imo
is the anduril sword a part of the bust? or is Elrond empty-handed?
Darth Loki
01-09-2007, 07:38 PM
Damn, I was all excited for some pics.
tomandshell
01-09-2007, 07:54 PM
Damn, I was all excited for some pics.
Ditto!!!
I hope this line ends up being as high quality as their Harry Potter busts. I think Aragorn and the Ringwraith are due in January, although GG has gotten pretty bad about delivering items on time.
I wonder if they will wait until Toy Fair to officially unveil the Elrond and Saruman busts together.
gambit
01-09-2007, 08:11 PM
is the anduril sword a part of the bust? or is Elrond empty-handed?
it is part of the bust. Elron is holding edge of the sword and the hilt is extended thru (Aragorn)
ah man cant wait to see it. damnit i wish someone saved the pic before it was taken down.
The Josh
01-09-2007, 08:26 PM
Think I'll probably pass on this one.
Bannister
01-09-2007, 09:37 PM
Think I'll probably pass on this one.
Until you see it.:lol
The Josh
01-09-2007, 09:41 PM
Until you see it.:lol
:lol :lol :lol
It better blow me away big time. I had the SSW Bust for a while but sold it because I just never liked it that much.
Hoser
01-10-2007, 12:32 AM
is the anduril sword a part of the bust? or is Elrond empty-handed?
I obvioulsy haven't seen it but I have a hard time imagining the bust NOT coming with the sword.
Calle_Sandell
01-10-2007, 12:43 AM
ohh... cool! Can't wait to see a pic!!!
LOTRFan
01-10-2007, 11:01 AM
This one must be a skittle holder, I can't imagine they would incorporate the light-up feature.
gambit
01-10-2007, 03:07 PM
There was no light up on the pic,
he is wearing a brown cape
one thing I realize was: the face sculpt looked relatively younger to Hugo Weawing in the movie, it was not looking like an elf of x hundered years but only 30 years.
I just realized also when I saw the other thread that there was the pic of the GG animated new Yoda mauqette also along with the Elrond. (I totally forgot yoda as I am not collecting Animated series) Which makes sure that the new bust is Elrond :rolleyes:
Nazgurl
01-11-2007, 07:55 AM
Looking forward to seeing the pic. I'll definitely be ordering. Hope they work some orcs into the line sometime this year. And maybe an Easterling, or Haradhrim (one of the ones who "drove" the oliphaunt).
Bannister
01-11-2007, 05:53 PM
Looking forward to seeing the pic. I'll definitely be ordering. Hope they work some orcs into the line sometime this year. And maybe an Easterling, or Haradhrim (one of the ones who "drove" the oliphaunt).
I would definitely buy an Easterling bust.
Synergy
01-11-2007, 08:55 PM
Easterling Bust would :chew :chew
tomandshell
01-11-2007, 10:07 PM
Elrond definitely looks like a Skittle holder.
(He also looks like a teenager, but hey...)
Vive le France!!!
Synergy
01-11-2007, 10:35 PM
Elrond definitely looks like a Skittle holder.
(He also looks like a teenager, but hey...)
Vive le France!!!
Skittle holder :horror ........really need to see a pic of this
Wetanut
01-11-2007, 10:39 PM
where's the pic? where's the pic? where'sthepic?:monkey2
tomandshell
01-11-2007, 11:03 PM
Remember last February when that French website was posting all of the Sideshow images before they were announced?
They have done it again. But GG has officially asked the image to be removed.
Darklord Dave
01-11-2007, 11:15 PM
I keep coming back to this thread expecting a pic...
same here. can someone please just post the pic. SSF is not a GG retailer or affiliate.
tomandshell
01-11-2007, 11:24 PM
But they have asked that it not appear on any websites until next week. If it goes up here, Dave will be asked to remove it. Let's not put any unwarranted stress on the poor man...
tomandshell
01-11-2007, 11:26 PM
Huh???
:cool:
The Josh
01-12-2007, 06:25 AM
Yeah, if someone has a pic I'd like to see it.
PM Me :)
lcummins
01-12-2007, 06:34 AM
Yeah, if someone has a pic I'd like to see it.
PM Me :)
What they said!!! :lol
Bannister
01-12-2007, 09:28 AM
But they have asked that it not appear on any websites until next week. If it goes up here, Dave will be asked to remove it. Let's not put any unwarranted stress on the poor man...
As a Kurgan I echo this sentiment.
Lembas Eater
01-12-2007, 06:46 PM
Come on, people! FORK OVER THE PICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Josh
01-12-2007, 06:49 PM
I think it's best for those that haven't seen it to wait.
LOTRFan
01-12-2007, 06:51 PM
I think it's best for those that haven't seen it to wait.
Why? Is it that bad. :confused:
The Josh
01-12-2007, 07:04 PM
I've seen better. Especially since they digitally scan the folks.
gambit
01-12-2007, 07:15 PM
yes, the preview pic seems like a skittle holder and so young.
I hope they will come up with a better pic
The Josh
01-12-2007, 07:16 PM
Yeah, I can't believe it turned out that off when they scan them.
LOTRFan
01-14-2007, 10:06 AM
Ouch! Thanks (kinda) for the PM Josh. :wave
The Josh
01-14-2007, 11:21 AM
You're welcome
Calle_Sandell
01-14-2007, 12:57 PM
can someone PM me the pic?
plz
DannieDarKo
01-14-2007, 01:03 PM
Same here. Would appreciate a pm with the pic. :D
Bannister
01-14-2007, 01:10 PM
Same here. Would appreciate a pm with the pic. :D
me too.:D :D
LOTRFan
01-14-2007, 02:52 PM
Ok, I am not sure if GG will like this or not but ....
http://www.allanbarnard.com/dir_pics_humor/dir_pictures/PIC_really_ugly_face.jpg
So much for lazer scanning. :sick
The Josh
01-14-2007, 03:15 PM
Kind of what it looks like sadly. :lol
tomandshell
01-14-2007, 03:57 PM
I think I understand why GG is asking that this image not be shown. The response is decidedly mixed. Granted, it says that it is a prototype, so I think we can expect some adjustments before all is said and done.
gambit
01-14-2007, 04:08 PM
I did not save the pic at the time I saw, therefore I do not have the pic myself also and can't send to anybody accordingly
sorry :)
The Josh
01-14-2007, 04:20 PM
I think I understand why GG is asking that this image not be shown. The response is decidedly mixed. Granted, it says that it is a prototype, so I think we can expect some adjustments before all is said and done.
Yeah, I would wait to have this out there full time. I think for this to be as good as the other busts so far from this line they will have to adjust it some.
Dynaheir
01-15-2007, 01:01 AM
Pic is up at GGC (http://gentlegiantcollectors.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=33869#33869).
for some reason, this is the first that, IMO, does not look like the actor :confused:
FelMarWETA
01-15-2007, 03:29 AM
lots of work to do on that face.
Calle_Sandell
01-15-2007, 03:46 AM
hmm.. Not what I expected!
Lots of work to do!
Darth Loki
01-15-2007, 07:15 AM
It's not horrible, but it's easily the worst so far. The face needs to be longer. At least it looks like an elf.
Lembas Eater
01-15-2007, 08:56 AM
Well, its not as bad as I was expecting based on the comments I had heard.
But THATS what you get from scanning, you get an image of the actor, NOT the character. I see Hugo Weaving there but there isn't much of Elrond. This is why the human hands of sculptors can express more than a computer and machine can.
I do like the inclusion of Anduril.
And I'll still be getting it. But hopefully they will "retool" or I dunno, perhaps reSCULPT the face.
Wetanut
01-15-2007, 09:12 AM
A definite miss. So far, their LOTR busts have been very very good and I'm generally forgiving on likenesses if the character is one I like, but this one needs work, even for me. Hope they'll put an objective eye to him and tweak it a bit. Otherwise, this baby will NOT come to my house. (I'm now dreading what their Frodo will look like. There hasn't been a spot-on likeness to Wood yet. SS PF has the sculpt down well but the paint has been the problem)
The Josh
01-15-2007, 10:14 AM
This thing is far far far more off than the SS Aragorn or Frodo for those that think those are off. IMO those two are very solid sculpts and are hand sculpted. There is no excuse for something turning out this bad when it's laser scanned. I'm sorry Loki this is horrible considering the fact they don't hand sculpt these.
KitFisto
01-15-2007, 10:32 AM
Holy BAD sculpts Batman!
carbo-fation
01-15-2007, 10:59 AM
That's just plain aweful. He looks nothing like V!:confused:
the laser scan is just the base process. they hand sculpt the details until it's finished.
Bannister
01-15-2007, 01:59 PM
This thing is far far far more off than the SS Aragorn or Frodo for those that think those are off. IMO those two are very solid sculpts and are hand sculpted. There is no excuse for something turning out this bad when it's laser scanned. I'm sorry Loki this is horrible considering the fact they don't hand sculpt these.
I don't think he looks any worse than Frodo or Aragorn. If this were made by Sideshow you would be calling the likeness uncanny and breaking out the comparison pics.:lol
carbo-fation
01-15-2007, 02:03 PM
I don't think he looks any worse than Frodo or Aragorn. If this were made by Sideshow you would be calling the likeness uncanny and breaking out the comparison pics.:lol
:lol If you guys are talking about the 12" Aragorn, he had a great likeness, but I think the paint job just made him look bad. As for Frodo, he still may look worse than Elrond.:monkey5
pordey2
01-15-2007, 02:05 PM
his head is too small :o
Bannister
01-15-2007, 02:07 PM
:lol If you guys are talking about the 12" Aragorn, he had a great likeness, but I think the paint job just made him look bad. As for Frodo, he still may look worse than Elrond.:monkey5
Underneath the paint, Aragorn looked good, Frodo, not so much.
carbo-fation
01-15-2007, 02:08 PM
Underneath the paint, Aragorn looked good, Frodo, not so much.
I agree! :)
The Josh
01-15-2007, 02:14 PM
I don't think he looks any worse than Frodo or Aragorn. If this were made by Sideshow you would be calling the likeness uncanny and breaking out the comparison pics.:lol
He looks far worse than either of those two pieces combined. I'm sure there is some hand sculpting involved but since they laser scan the actors there is no reason for them to not be spot on. Frodo and Aragorn where solid sculpts. If this where made by SS I would be calling it out for what it is. :)
The Josh
01-15-2007, 02:55 PM
Also I've said how much I've liked every GG LOTR so far. As a matter of fact I have them all on order. :)
I think we should hold up on the judgment. Clearly this is not even a prototype for pre-production. I wouldn't be surprised if things get ironed out.
Take Slave Leia for example, they were able to alter that one before production started.
Darth Loki
01-15-2007, 04:34 PM
He looks far worse than either of those two pieces combined. I'm sure there is some hand sculpting involved but since they laser scan the actors there is no reason for them to not be spot on. Frodo and Aragorn where solid sculpts. If this where made by SS I would be calling it out for what it is. :)
Frodo is a solid sculpt!:thwak
This Elrond bust isn't good but at least both his eyes are looking in the same direction.
Bannister
01-15-2007, 04:47 PM
He looks far worse than either of those two pieces combined. I'm sure there is some hand sculpting involved but since they laser scan the actors there is no reason for them to not be spot on. Frodo and Aragorn where solid sculpts. If this where made by SS I would be calling it out for what it is. :)
It's all good man. I was just messing with you. I actually agree that he should be spot on given the fact they are laser scanned.
Captain Faramir
01-15-2007, 04:47 PM
Maybe it's one of his sons...................
The Josh
01-15-2007, 05:11 PM
Frodo is a solid sculpt!:thwak
The sculpt is solid. It hasn't changed from what I saw at SDCC and that was a very good sculpt. The lips are too dark that I agree.
This Elrond bust isn't good but at least both his eyes are looking in the same direction.
Well, from a distance it will look like his cross dressing cousin. That's good. While from a distance even if Frodo's eye is off a little you won't be able to tell. Which last time I checked is how most of us looked at our pieces.
It's all good man. I was just messing with you. I actually agree that he should be spot on given the fact they are laser scanned.
It's all good. I knew ya where just wanted to make a point to others that want to let GG off the hook yet hold SS to a different standard.
I don't think anyone is holding SS to a different standard. The fact is that the pic of Elrond is a prototype and PF Frodo is production pics.
The Godfather
01-15-2007, 05:38 PM
I dont get why its so off the Agent Smith is spot on.
The Josh
01-15-2007, 05:39 PM
I dont get why its so off the Agent Smith is spot on.
:lol :lol :rotfl
Lembas Eater
01-15-2007, 09:50 PM
The more I look at it, I'm starting to like it. But there is still SOMETHING off about it and I'm beginning to think its the eyebrows, not enough angle, definition.
Synergy
01-15-2007, 11:01 PM
Its funny that we don't have any faith in GG to pull this piece off considering their other pieces are the best likeness of the characters of any other pieces out on the market.
Relax have some faith
Its funny that we don't have any faith in GG to pull this piece off considering their other pieces are the best likeness of the characters of any other pieces out on the market.
Relax have some faith
don't know man. Sometimes they don't do great with the likeness even with their laser tech., for example the Luke bust
http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/images/D/D3912.jpg
...but you are right, this is just a prototype so i will wait and see the final outcome :chew
Darth Loki
01-16-2007, 05:54 AM
The sculpt is solid. It hasn't changed from what I saw at SDCC and that was a very good sculpt. The lips are too dark that I agree.
Well, from a distance it will look like his cross dressing cousin. That's good. While from a distance even if Frodo's eye is off a little you won't be able to tell. Which last time I checked is how most of us looked at our pieces.
It's all good. I knew ya where just wanted to make a point to others that want to let GG off the hook yet hold SS to a different standard.
Of course if this were from SS you'd be calling it the greatest Elrond sculpt ever. Your biased opinions are worthless. When you grow a pair and actually admit that SS isn't perfect, I'll give a damn what you have to say.
But this still may be the first GG LOTR bust I pass on if the likeness isn't improved.
The Josh
01-16-2007, 11:03 AM
Of course if this were from SS you'd be calling it the greatest Elrond sculpt ever. Your biased opinions are worthless. When you grow a pair and actually admit that SS isn't perfect, I'll give a damn what you have to say.
No, I wouldn't but no matter how many times I say that you, Seth, etc. will see it your own way. Which is fine cause honestly I don't care.
My opinion is worthless? Ok so put me on ignore then. That way you can live in your dream world. I've never said SS is perfect and have said so on numerous occassions.
Ya know though Loki. I've seen you rail on flippers several times over the past few months. I find that funny considering you did the same thing with the BHST Bust from GG. Double Standard? I think so. ;)
Bannister
01-16-2007, 11:06 AM
No, I wouldn't but no matter how many times I say that you, Seth, etc. will see it your own way. Which is fine cause honestly I don't care.
My opinion is worthless? Ok so put me on ignore then. That way you can live in your dream world. I've never said SS is perfect and have said so on numerous occassions.
Ya know though Loki. I've seen you rail on flippers several times over the past few months. I find that funny considering you did the same thing with the BHST Bust from GG. Double Standard? I think so. ;)
Hey josh that's not cool. Just ask Fritz if he thinks he got a good deal.:rotfl
The Josh
01-16-2007, 11:18 AM
Hey josh that's not cool. Just ask Fritz if he thinks he got a good deal.:rotfl
That's true. :lol
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Cracks me up though if I say I don't like something from another company folks jump on me, because I don't criticize very many SS pieces. Like just because I like most of what SS does means I can't say something about other companies work. :rotfl
Sometimes they don't do great with the likeness even with their laser tech., for example the Luke bust
GG doesn't use the laser scanning on every bust or statue they make. I doubt they had a laser scan of mark hamil because the technology was not available at that time. Also the A New Hope Leia bust and Old Ben...I highly doubt they had a laser scan of those either. It just depends, for the majority of the PT stuff they probably do have laser scanned information.
The Josh
01-16-2007, 01:08 PM
Yeah, I doubt they had the laser scan on those. They could I suppose have video or picture files and then put those into a program that would digitally map their faces but I don't know that for sure. That might not even be possible yet.
NASEDO
01-22-2007, 06:19 PM
https://www.gentlegiantltd.com/images/product/8/176/Elrond/productDetail.png
When I first seen this I thought it was Frodo, either way it dosen't look good at all. It looks like he's wearing Frodo's Clothes.
kierbaudy
01-22-2007, 08:29 PM
The head looks too small, but he does look more elf like in that sculpt. It's okay, I like the fact it captures a moment, but not really want I expected. The expression looks a little meek and frightened.
Calle_Sandell
01-23-2007, 06:36 AM
Well.. The hair colour is really wierd! why is it so brown?
jpcreations26
01-24-2007, 09:01 PM
It ok but I rather have a 1/6 scale figure of him from sideshow. hopefully in the prologue armor.
Wetanut
01-24-2007, 09:07 PM
Am I the only one seeing Linda Hunt in that face? :monkey1
Lembas Eater
01-24-2007, 09:12 PM
Am I the only one seeing Linda Hunt in that face? :monkey1
I always did want a Shadout Mapes bust!!
The Josh
01-24-2007, 09:17 PM
Am I the only one seeing Linda Hunt in that face? :monkey1
No, I'm with ya.
Lembas Eater
01-24-2007, 09:53 PM
I say its the Eyebrows - they just aren't as strong and angular as they should be!
See if this lil Photoshop action doesn't help, borrowing eyebrows from a pic of Hugo as Elrond.
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3477/newelrond5wx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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