Marvel's Secret Wars 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FQRDW3IaZ4

Looks like various "events" are being snatched from their respective universes and placed on one planet to do battle against one another.

So Civil War vs. Planet Hulk, Infinity Gauntlet vs. Age of Ultron and so on. Or something.

Someone's gotta get Mickey off the pipe...

They're ****ing comics. If Mickey's on the pipe, then we're the ones who gave him his first free try on the playground. Roll with the punches, or drop the hobby. Sure, we've endured some really dumb arcs, reboots and retellings, but we will either always remain loyal to the medium, or we're just posers.

Events like these have been taking place looong before Disney came along.

I don't have a problem with this story.

cilantropants said:

...but we will either always remain loyal to the medium, or we're just posers.

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Did you just try to subtly suggest I'm a poser? Why, that's ... actually more than a little accurate.

Has a Contest of the Champions kind of vibe. Could be fun to read one of these days.

It seems like every "event" that Marvel announces is met with scorn as if there haven't been dozens of universe shaking crossovers over the decades.

I don't read superhero comics for mundane "Days of Our Lives" relationship drama. If worlds/universes aren't in danger without costumed heroes to come save then what's the point?

Khev said:

It seems like every "event" that Marvel announces is met with scorn as if there haven't been dozens of universe shaking crossovers over the decades.

I don't read superhero comics for mundane "Days of Our Lives" relationship drama. If worlds/universes aren't in danger without costumed heroes to come save then what's the point?

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I thought you longed for the days of Millie the Model and True Romance.

Khev said:

I don't read superhero comics for mundane "Days of Our Lives" relationship drama. If worlds/universes aren't in danger without costumed heroes to come save then what's the point?

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I don't agree with that mentality. If so, about 90% of all comics have no point, since in the vast majority of them the scale and stakes aren't that high. That's the case in nearly every Spidey and Batman solo comic ever written.

Rook said:

Did you just try to subtly suggest I'm a poser? Why, that's ... actually more than a little accurate.

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It was more of a "let's just be glad we have them and just enjoy what we get" kinda thing.

Khev said:

It seems like every "event" that Marvel announces is met with scorn as if there haven't been dozens of universe shaking crossovers over the decades.

I don't read superhero comics for mundane "Days of Our Lives" relationship drama. If worlds/universes aren't in danger without costumed heroes to come save then what's the point?

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Generally speaking, yeah.

karamazov80 said:

I don't agree with that mentality. If so, about 90% of all comics have no point, since in the vast majority of them the scale and stakes aren't that high. That's the case in nearly every Spidey and Batman solo comic ever written.

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I think he was exaggerating the sentiment to make a point.

karamazov80 said:

I don't agree with that mentality. If so, about 90% of all comics have no point, since in the vast majority of them the scale and stakes aren't that high. That's the case in nearly every Spidey and Batman solo comic ever written.

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Well I don't read 90%+ of comics so there you go. I'm not saying that cosmic events are the only reason to read just that if they are NOT ever allowed then what's the point.

Well I've heard that argument before, about "what's the point of an Avengers movie after Thanos? It can't get any bigger than that!" Which is pretty true, but it doesn't have to get bigger for it to be worthwhile or even great. They just have to pivot away from the escalation of threat from film to film. That's how it has been handled in comics since Stan, Jack and friends started all this. Fantastic Four would go right from Galactus to a story about Ben Grimm's struggle over his sense of identity.

Khev said:

Well I don't read 90%+ of comics so there you go.

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I thought you read Captain America, though! Liar!

karamazov80 said:

I thought you read Captain America, though! Liar!

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There's more than a hundred comic titles so if I read Cap and a few others that still means I don't read 90%.

But yeah, things like Kraven's Last Hunt, Winter Soldier, lots of Wolverine solo tales, none of those are galaxy shaking events. I just like it when those things happen due to nostalgia of past events like Secret Wars and Infinity Gauntlet. I'm always curious to see if they can juggle all characters in a way that creates another iconic event before going back to status quo for however many months again.

I agree with you that there's definitely a place for these things. I'm very nostalgic for Secret Wars I and II and Crisis on Infinite Earths. And it can be fun when it's done right. I think the frustration from some modern comic readers is that it's so predictable at this point, as the go-to summer crossover gimmick to boost sales year after year, like it's the new era's answer to Wolvie crossing over into every comic every month as a cheap sales boosting gimmick in the early '90s. But even then, comics pretty regularly had things like this going back to the '80s and '90s, even if they weren't always "the universe as you know it will never be the same!" in terms of scope. Fall of the Mutants, Evolutionary War, DC's Armageddon, Zero Hour, etc. Nothing all that new.

Seems like every nerd event from my youth through my college days are getting redone and marketed to us and I am pretty happy about it.