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hairlesswookiee
12-02-2006, 02:15 PM
ok, i only have enough money to buy one of them. since they are on sale now i've decided its gonna be either the wolfman SSE or the phantom SSE. i've been dying to get into this series for a while and this will be a great way to get into it. so can you guys help me with the decision process?? maybe post some pics??

Bannister
12-02-2006, 02:22 PM
If it were the color versions, I would say Wolfman, no contest. But since it is the SSE I would go with the character you like the most. I personally like the Wolfman more.

hydrobud
12-02-2006, 02:43 PM
Phantom SSE

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/hydrobud/DSCN1418.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/hydrobud/DSCN1416.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/hydrobud/DSCN1415.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/hydrobud/DSCN1410.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/hydrobud/DSCN1411.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/hydrobud/DSCN1414.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/hydrobud/DSCN1412.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/hydrobud/DSCN1417.jpg

creecher
12-02-2006, 02:49 PM
Maybe posters should identify themselves as SSE collectors, thereby giving you the opinion of those that already have them. The decision can't be made by us. Really you can't go wrong with either.

I agree with Bannister, as I only have the coloured versions. If it were colour I'd go with the Wolfman. He is the more iconic. The Phantom has the more elaborate costume. I had a friend come over and they didn't even recognize the Phantom.

You might want to take edition size into account, and buy the lower edition size, thinking that will be harder to find later down the track, as you are only just getting into this line. The Phantom is 250 and the Wolfman is 300. Having a lower edition size wont necessarily make it harder to find. The Wolfman, being so iconic, may mean it is the one collectors will snap up first.

Don't forget that SSE London after Midnight, edition: 250, all three are half price at the moment.

occulum
12-02-2006, 03:13 PM
SSE?
Phantom

hairlesswookiee
12-02-2006, 05:03 PM
thanks for the pics hydrobud. but i've decided to go with the wolfman... he's more memorable to me and will be more recognizable when people see him on the shelf. (i still plan on getting the phantom down the road though) hopefully the other SSE's will still be on sale after the first of the year.

RoboDad
12-02-2006, 06:37 PM
Good choice, HW. In case you missed it, here is a link to my SSE Wolf Man pics thread. Of course, since then I have also ordered the SSE Phantom (courtesy of the Rewards program and the Black Friday sale it was almost free), but the Wolf Man was ,is, and always will be my "first love" of the classic monsters.

http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13638

PosterBoyKelly
12-02-2006, 09:35 PM
From the pics I like Wolfman SSE more, something about the paint job on the Phantom bugs me, seems a little off. I think his eyes aren't dark enough, again from pics I only own Dracula SSE.

Big Duke 6
12-02-2006, 10:02 PM
Go with the Wolfman....

He is his own man his own wolf, he is the wolfman...


BD6

hairlesswookiee
12-03-2006, 01:57 PM
one thing i just noticed from the pics-- are the phantom's arms poseable?? i had not idea they were and thats pretty cool. either way the wolfman has been ordered and will hopefully arrive sometime this upcoming week or the one after.

choopie
12-04-2006, 07:13 AM
one thing i just noticed from the pics-- are the phantom's arms poseable?? i had not idea they were and thats pretty cool. either way the wolfman has been ordered and will hopefully arrive sometime this upcoming week or the one after.

Nice choice. I would have picked Wolfman as well. RoboDad's pics of him are amazing. If Wolfie stays on sale for a time, I may just end up getting him anyways. Perhaps after the holidays.

LOTRFan
12-08-2006, 04:24 PM
Ok, so since Robo has his; I hope I can jump in this thread.



Someone please tell me why I shouldn't buy the Wolfman ....



*resolve is mighty thin right now*

hairlesswookiee
12-08-2006, 07:20 PM
i couldnt find a good reason to not buy the wolfman at the price its going for right now...

LOTRFan
12-12-2006, 11:57 AM
Due to arrive today. :monkey3

hairlesswookiee
12-12-2006, 11:59 AM
Due to arrive today. :monkey3
lol mine just arrived about 2 hours ago. you'll be happy when you open the box.

Radagaster
12-12-2006, 12:26 PM
Which is more iconic, Wolfman or London After Midnight? SSE has me chomping at the bit, and I can't think of a better way to splurge my $75 GC on . . . Thing is . . .after I receive it, it will probably only see the light of day around Halloween, so I'm trying to figure out which would be scarier to greet people as they see it???

hairlesswookiee
12-12-2006, 12:41 PM
my vote goes for the wolfman!! (the shipping is more for the phantom) not everyone will recognize the phantom as they would the wolfman.

LOTRFan
12-12-2006, 12:46 PM
Which is more iconic, Wolfman or London After Midnight? SSE has me chomping at the bit, and I can't think of a better way to splurge my $75 GC on . . . Thing is . . .after I receive it, it will probably only see the light of day around Halloween, so I'm trying to figure out which would be scarier to greet people as they see it???

Not many people will actually know who LAM is seeing as though the movie was never released. However he certainly is a creepy lookin' fella, great for a single display at Halloween.

Eli26
12-12-2006, 12:48 PM
Honestly, the Werewolf is more recognizable to the mainstream audience. So more people will see the Halloween fundamentals applied there when they see him growling at them.

Were as I think the London After Midnight piece has more greater detail in his face and in his tailored outfit. That and he's also holding an accessory. A lamp if my memory doesn't fail me. Overall, from attacking it as a mixed media piece, it's much more appealing to the eye.

Basically it comes down to this. Do you want a more detailed piece, as in terms of sculpt, rooted hair, tailored outfit, and added accessories or do you want a very familiar character that most will recognize?

I hope this helps you about in your decision. Or just get both.

Bannister
12-12-2006, 01:50 PM
Wolfman is definitely more iconic but London After midnight does have an interesting history behind it.

Radagaster
12-12-2006, 06:45 PM
my vote goes for the wolfman!! (the shipping is more for the phantom) not everyone will recognize the phantom as they would the wolfman.

Why would Phantom or LAM have higher shipping? If I recall, wolfman is all poly, whereas LAM or Phantom is mixed media. Isn't poly weighing heavier?

hairlesswookiee
12-12-2006, 08:25 PM
Why would Phantom or LAM have higher shipping? If I recall, wolfman is all poly, whereas LAM or Phantom is mixed media. Isn't poly weighing heavier?
dont know, but last week i played with all of them and the Phantom was more expensive to ship. the wolfman only costed me $12, but the phantom was $22 for shipping.

Eli26
12-12-2006, 09:21 PM
Sideshow told me their boxes are shipped due the measurements of the box and not by actual weight. So find out if the Phantom is a bigger box than the Wolfman's. If your answer is yes, then you know why.

hairlesswookiee
12-12-2006, 11:35 PM
im guessing the phantom's box is bigger because the wolfman seems lurching over while the phantom is standing normally. i dont know because i only have the wolfman right now

PosterBoyKelly
12-13-2006, 06:50 AM
After looking at RobotDads pics of the Phantom, I say DAMN WHY DID I PASS UP THAT 1/2 DEAL!!!! If it drops after Christmas, I'll see. Lon (Sr.) and Bela are 2 of my all time fav. actors. Lon (sr.) put so much work into his own make up and performance, just a new level of respect for that guy.

LOTRFan
12-13-2006, 11:08 AM
Why would Phantom or LAM have higher shipping? If I recall, wolfman is all poly, whereas LAM or Phantom is mixed media. Isn't poly weighing heavier?

Wolfman is a PF as well. :wave

And the Phantom is still up at 50% off, I only know because I have been eyeing it every day. :o

Radagaster
12-13-2006, 11:27 AM
After looking at RobotDads pics of the Phantom, I say DAMN WHY DID I PASS UP THAT 1/2 DEAL!!!! If it drops after Christmas, I'll see. Lon (Sr.) and Bela are 2 of my all time fav. actors. Lon (sr.) put so much work into his own make up and performance, just a new level of respect for that guy.

Yeah, the Phantom SSE is still 50% off . . .

I see there's not as much love for the LAM compared to Phantom or Wolfman . . .

Boba Fett
12-13-2006, 11:29 AM
I got the LAM as a gift for a friend of mine, and he just can't stop raving about it.

Radagaster
12-13-2006, 11:30 AM
I don't really see the LAM's hair as detracting. It's not that poufy is it?

Eli26
12-13-2006, 01:22 PM
Out of the Universal Monsters Premium Formats I think the London After Midnight is only bested in the looks department, by Dracula. I think his downfall is nobody knows who he is compared to the other, much more popular monsters.

RoboDad
12-14-2006, 12:11 PM
Out of the Universal Monsters Premium Formats I think the London After Midnight is only bested in the looks department, by Dracula. I think his downfall is nobody knows who he is compared to the other, much more popular monsters.
It isn't so much that we don't know who he is. For me at least, it was just that there isn't the same emotional resonance with the character, since I never had the opportunity to see the film. On the other hand, the other characters all come alive in my minds eye when I look at their PFs.

To be honest, I did have a very difficult time deciding between the Phantom and LAM, but ultimately the Phantom won out (with a little help from the forum ;)).

Eli26
12-14-2006, 12:53 PM
I meant he isn't AS well known as the other Universal Monsters. Lets be honest Robodad (love the name btw) do you think that the majority out there know who the LAM character is? I didn't beyond this year! And I used to always watch the black and white monster movies with my mother when I was a kid.

RoboDad
12-14-2006, 02:36 PM
You're absolutely right that he isn't as well known, and I didn't mean to imply that he was. I only meant that his being less well known wasn't the reason I decided against him. If anything, that was one of the reasons I was considering him at all.

Being an obscure character from one of the greatest "monster" actors of all time really made the figure more desirable to me than it might otherwise have been. But, in the long run, I didn't feel the same emotional attachment to the piece that I have for the others.

Radagaster
12-15-2006, 01:29 PM
Ugh, just found out I couldn't apply the $75 GC I have for any SSE 1/4 purchase. I coulda sworn someone was able to do that here, but I guess the 50% off doesn't stack with any GC. There goes my first purchase of a 1/4 SSE PF. Guess I'll have to go for the tried and true LOTR stuff instead . . .

PosterBoyKelly
12-17-2006, 10:05 AM
Ugh, just found out I couldn't apply the $75 GC I have for any SSE 1/4 purchase. I coulda sworn someone was able to do that here, but I guess the 50% off doesn't stack with any GC. There goes my first purchase of a 1/4 SSE PF. Guess I'll have to go for the tried and true LOTR stuff instead . . .

I used a $30 gift card on discounted SSE Dracs during Spooktacular. So I got the discount and than some.

LOTRFan
12-18-2006, 01:20 PM
Though nowhere near as good as Robo Dad's shots, I recently was able to get mine displayed.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/LOTRFan0324/SideshowSSEWolfman014.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/LOTRFan0324/SideshowSSEWolfman011.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/LOTRFan0324/SideshowSSEWolfman019.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/LOTRFan0324/SideshowSSEWolfman020.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/LOTRFan0324/SideshowSSEWolfman021.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/LOTRFan0324/SideshowSSEWolfman025.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y270/LOTRFan0324/SideshowSSEWolfman010.jpg

The lighting was deliberate, I wanted to attempt anyway to re-create the mood of the film. I must say, I am VERY impressed with this piece; certainly worth the discounted price tag.

RoboDad
12-18-2006, 04:27 PM
:clap

Very nice display (and lighting)! I love the promo shot of Lon in the background. May I ask where you got that?

LOTRFan
12-18-2006, 06:18 PM
Thanks. By chance I happened to find the pic of Lon Jr. in San Diego on a recent visit.

Nitro
12-18-2006, 10:31 PM
Nice display! I like the last pic the best with the Chaney pic in back of the Detolf...Again very classy set-up! :cool:

Eli26
12-18-2006, 11:28 PM
LOTRfan, three questions...

1. Why must you make me so jealous?

2. How much weight can each Detolf withstand? I mean per glass shelf.

3. How many Premium Formats could I put on a Detolf glass shelf?

I am considering purchasing one for now, and another in the future when Cap becomes available.

Eli26
12-18-2006, 11:28 PM
LOTRfan, three questions...

1. Why must you make me so jealous?

2. How much weight can each Detolf withstand? I mean per glass shelf.

3. How many Premium Formats could I put on a Detolf glass shelf?

I am considering purchasing one for now, and another in the future when Cap becomes available.

LOTRFan
12-19-2006, 11:28 AM
When technically since you double-posted you asked six. :lol

1) Don't know.

2) Ikea's specs say 13 lbs - wolfie is around 11.5

3) Usually two per Detolf, you have to remove two shelves as they are not adjustable. I was able to get Han and Leia on the same level in one of mine.

Radagaster
12-19-2006, 11:47 AM
I would think there's nothing stopping you from doubling up on your glass shelves just to handle more weight. I could be wrong . . .

Eli26
12-19-2006, 12:09 PM
What?! How did I make a double post?! Now I am pissy.

I want to cr... LOTRfan, que the Baby or big monkey pic!

PosterBoyKelly
12-19-2006, 12:42 PM
THanks for the DEltof info. I had no idea they could hold so much weight. I wouldn't think 2 doubled up would hold more, unless the supports themselves could handle it. If the supports could hold more, than it would be fine, but just because the glass is strong enough, doesn't mean the supports would be. I don't know, I don't have ANY due to living out of a box for the last 2 years.

LOTRFan
12-19-2006, 02:06 PM
THanks for the DEltof info. I had no idea they could hold so much weight. I wouldn't think 2 doubled up would hold more, unless the supports themselves could handle it. If the supports could hold more, than it would be fine, but just because the glass is strong enough, doesn't mean the supports would be. I don't know, I don't have ANY due to living out of a box for the last 2 years.

No, I think you are right PBK. It is the welds on the frame that would be the issue. I haven't even bothered trying to double the glass.

BDboystoys
12-20-2006, 08:22 PM
The Phantom has made his grand entrance.
Best. PF. Ever.

http://charles-song.com/gallery/d/8055-1/IMG_5348.jpg

For more:
http://charles-song.com/gallery/v/members/BDboystoys/Sideshow/pf/

LOTRFan
12-21-2006, 01:51 PM
:monkey5 :monkey5 :monkey5