Sideshow on Ebay..flippers-scalpers WHATEVER!

[owtkasted]

Why do people buy the exclusives only to put them on ebay? I feel that is one of the most sad things to do as a collector or human in general. Is it worth the trouble to make $60? You can get $60 from collecting cans and bottles. As a collector, its nice to have an item that there is only a few made but to buy these items just to resale for a FEW bucks is so sad its funny. I know there are people here that do that but:rolleyes:

[Batty]

Well, this subject certainly won't spark a debate! :rolleyes:

[Mithrandier]

I hear ya owtkasted and agree with you...............no debate there:D

But really, the flippers are gonna be all over your loud arse remarks, you have been warned. Just cause you are right and they are wrong.:D

[pixletwin]

Hey now, those flippers have to pay for their WoW accounts somehow!

(frantically looks for pic of computer guy in WoW South Park episode)

[Customikey]

I confess freely to having flipped a few figures, pre-joining this board.

I didn't think there was anything wrong with it at the time. Basically, I wanted to order the figure, see it in person, THEN decide if I wanted to keep it. On the oh so rare occasion that I decided to part with it, I'd put it up on eBay for exactly what I paid. If I made a profit, it always went right back to Sideshow. :rolleyes:

I don't do this anymore. I'm much more careful with my money. But I really don't think that "flipping" is as great an evil as some on these boards make it out to be. Mountain out of a mole hill.


Let the flaming commence. :emperor

[LOTRFan]

Why is this being posted in the HORROR section again?! :confused: :monkey1

[pixletwin]

...Basically, I wanted to order the figure, see it in person, THEN decide if I wanted to keep it. On the oh so rare occasion that I decided to part with it, I'd put it up on eBay for exactly what I paid. If I made a profit, it always went right back to Sideshow....

I think he is referring to those we all know and love who sell them for twice the ppo price and putting them up for sale 5 minutes after the items sell out...

No Mikey, you are not the devil you perceive yourself to be. ;)

[pixletwin]

Why is this being posted in the HORROR section again?! :confused: :monkey1
Because its horrorble... :monkey1

[carbo-fation]

Didn't we already have this debate before?? I know it was very steamy with a crap load of flaming!

[pixletwin]

Didn't we already have this debate before?? I know it was very steamy with a crap load of flaming!
Steamy crap loads of creamy fillings flipper flaming... mmmmm mmmmm good.

[occulum]

I have no problem with flippers
;)

[The Josh]

Because its horrorble... :monkey1

That's just bad. :lol

[pixletwin]

That's just bad. :lol
Yes it was. lol

[Mithrandier]

It is posted again.............and again...........and again...........and will continue to be posted until the flippers are no more. Or until they decide that, like those that do not like the idea of flipping, no one will change anyones idea of wrong(flipping) or right(non-flipping) by posting their opinions on this subject.:D

[owtkasted]

I dont understand the point in buying a item ONLY to resale it to make a few bucks.

[Darth Madden]

I dont understand the point in buying a item ONLY to resale it to make a few bucks.

I will admit I have done it. I won the lottery for the McFarlane Deion Sanders exclusives so I bought my 4 for $10 each and sold them for $40 each... helped pay for Jabba.

[Mithrandier]

I will admit I have done it. I won the lottery for the McFarlane Deion Sanders exclusives so I bought my 4 for $10 each and sold them for $40 each... helped pay for Jabba.


We all see the problem with that statement...............anybody, anybody???

You just admitted, not to flipping, but to actually purchasing a Deion Sanders figure, or anything Neon Deion for that matter.

You really do have a problem. Sorry madden821 but you really are mad.........:D :lol :rotfl

[Darth Madden]

We all see the problem with that statement...............anybody, anybody???

You just admitted, not to flipping, but to actually purchasing a Deion Sanders figure, or anything Neon Deion for that matter.

You really do have a problem. Sorry madden821 but you really are mad.........:D :lol :rotfl


But it was bought with the intention of selling to feed my Sideshow habbit... I want to say right now that I do not, and never will, condone the purchase of any Deion Sanders related items... except for the sole purpose of quick resale.

[Mithrandier]

Too late..............you are a Neon Deion lover...........you probably have his CD and everything................

Do not let him fool you, madden821 is a Deion Sanders fan. He is coming out and saying it, but trying to hide it with the flipper cover. We all see through it.:D :lol :rotfl

Be true to yourelf, don't hide it. You should change your screen name to Neon Deion...........or Neon Celene Deion..............

[DannieDarKo]

Why do people buy the exclusives only to put them on ebay? I feel that is one of the most sad things to do as a collector or human in general. Is it worth the trouble to make $60? You can get $60 from collecting cans and bottles. As a collector, its nice to have an item that there is only a few made but to buy these items just to resale for a FEW bucks is so sad its funny. I know there are people here that do that but:rolleyes:


Please take these surveys. :D

Sideshow Survey 1 (http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11129)

Sideshow Survey 2 (http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11155)

Sideshow Surveys: The Truth! (http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11194)

[Bannister]

I don't understand why "true collectors" actually buy these items at inflated prices. You are only contributing to the problem. If you didn't buy, the flippers wouldn't be able to sell. Of course then you wouldn't be able to complain either.

[Customikey]

I have no problem with flippers


;)


Does your sig make me bi ? :blissy

[EVILFACE]

You can do whatever you want with something that is yours.

Flip, skip, thunk n dunk whatever.

[LOTRFan]

Nice! :clap I prefer the thunk and dunk then. :lol

[occulum]

Does your sig make me bi ? :blissy

whatever excuse you want to use is fine with me :lol




.. sorry couldnt resist

[Darth Madden]

Be true to yourelf, don't hide it. You should change your screen name to Neon Deion...........or Neon Celene Deion..............

That's not a bad idea... "Near, Far.. wherever you are..."

[owtkasted]

I don't understand why "true collectors" actually buy these items at inflated prices. You are only contributing to the problem. If you didn't buy, the flippers wouldn't be able to sell. Of course then you wouldn't be able to complain either.
Like I said, everybody dont know about ordering direct from sideshow and how to get the exclusives so they have to pay scalper prices.

[Vader AL]

order from Sideshow when they go up for sale and avoid the problem. for those that don't know about Sideshow and how it works, they aren't a part of this board therefore i feel no love for them. beside they probably think they are getting a good deal. ignorance is bliss! btw, i've never flipped but i might if the right opportunity presents itself.

[Bannister]

Like I said, everybody dont know about ordering direct from sideshow and how to get the exclusives so they have to pay scalper prices.
You don't have to do anything. It is your choice to pay those prices and by doing so you are facilitating the problem. Then you come on the boards and complain about it, like you are some sort of victim. These things aren't necessities, they are luxuries.

[darthviper107]

Are you a gay dolphin if you buy something for less than it's worth?


For instance, a while ago my brother sold me his Xbox for $15 (He had two xbox's and needed some money) and then I went to gamestop and sold it for $80. (and I don't feel bad because he's older than me and jipped me out of money before).

[Bannister]

Are you a gay dolphin if you buy something for less than it's worth?


For instance, a while ago my brother sold me his Xbox for $15 (He had two xbox's and needed some money) and then I went to gamestop and sold it for $80. (and I don't feel bad because he's older than me and jipped me out of money before).
Don't worry, you're definitely going to hell, but other than that you should be fine.:D

[DannieDarKo]

!!!The Unwritten Laws of TRUE COLLECTORS!!!



1.Flippers are gay.

2.Must start a thread at least once a week whining about scalpers.

3.Realize it's cool to pay inflated prices for an item and then complain about having to do so because you are a true collector.

4.Call people sad or pathetic because they flip items, while still being able to look themselves in the mirror and not think the same about themselves for posting entire threads on the subject.

5.When you miss out on an item you want, start a thread begging a fellow board member to hook you up with one at cost if they don't intend to keep it.

6.Feel you are entitled to every super limited item you missed out on because you are a true collector.

7.It's ok to sell an item at an inflated price if you paid retail and it has subsequently risen in value. Afterall, you never intended to sell it.

8.Be a whiny little *****.

9.If a dealer sells an item at an inflated price, it's cool as long as it is not above current ebay prices and you like the dealer.

10.Realize that all scalpers are in fact agents of Satan himself. Flipping afterall is one of the saddest things people can do to another human being, right up there with rape and murder.
fixed.

[DannieDarKo]

Maybe I should be a "whiny little *****" too and make a WHOLE NEW THREAD about these unwritten laws. :rolleyes:

Everyone look at me, OVER HERE!! OH LOOK AT ME!LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK! :lol

[occulum]

Danny, youre such a True Collectuh hate-uh.


clearly people are missing the point of my banner. Gay = happy, sheesh!

[elwood49]

Like I said, everybody dont know about ordering direct from sideshow and how to get the exclusives so they have to pay scalper prices.

I don't feel any remorse for someone's own stupidity.

[DannieDarKo]

I don't feel any remorse for someone's own stupidity.

:rock :rock :rock

[occulum]

Like I said, everybody dont know about ordering direct from sideshow and how to get the exclusives so they have to pay scalper prices.
if they even know the exclusives exist, wouldnt they know they came from SS direct since thats the only way they sell them?
... if they dont then they havent even tried to find them elsewhere, cause thats where they'd end up.

[Anton Phibes]

...yes, I have seen the type of people you are talking about. They buy something (like oh, say a grey Hulk SS statue, an SSE Ardath Bey 1:1 bust, or a super limited Bowen piece) and then immediately turn it over and make a healthy profit just to do it again. I don't like the "speculator" market. It destroyed the comics market in the 1990's. These folks have no interest in the stuff other than $$$.

Now, I have "flipped or turned" or whatever you want to call it something over lots of times. I will give you some examples.

1.) I bought the Bowen Chrome Silver Surfer bust when it first came out. For $90.00. I had every intention of keeping it. I have a huge collection of Bowen Marvel junk. When I saw that some people were paying big bucks for it,however, I sold it. IMMEDIATELY. For $550. You know what I did with that $550? Paid for 15 other new release Bowen busts that I wanted more. The Silver Surfer paid for a huge chunk of my collection. But I probably should have just kept it because it makes somebody else upset? Because they didnt walk into a comic store and get to buy one for $90 to subsidize their collection? C'mon. I am not rich, and its nobody's business but mine if I decide to get rid of one thing from my collection to add a bunch more items to it.

2.) I am out of a job. I still want to keep up with whatever I can. Which at this point has only been the Ardath Bey bust (color). I hope to get a Dracula 1:1 and a Mummy PF. I also collect the X-Files figures. I bought Skinner and Krycek and I had no intentions of getting rid of them. Unitil I saw people were paying big bucks for them. Then I sold them. IMMEDIATELY. For $165-$175...EACH. I suppose I shouldve just kept them because...? In collecting it all balances out. Some things have to be sacrificed to keep your credit card or your wallet or whatever from being hit too hard by this hobby.
Unless you are independently wealthy. Which I am not.

3.) I went to the Flea Market one time. I saw 2 items for sale there. A Janus Dracula and Bride model, and a Jason part 3 12" Sideshow figure. I bought them both for $370. I planned to keep them. Didnt work out that way. Some family crisis hit... and they both were sold. For $600 total. Its very seldom that a profit can be made in this hobby. Add the fact that most of this stuff is overpriced garbage that only decreases in value later on and you are left with a valley of indecision.

What to do? Do I keep everything and just keep sinking dollar after dollar into this stuff? Or do I be smart about this and try to build a nice collection while saving as much money as possible? I have every PF Universal Monster as well as Nosferatu and London after Midnight. Do you know how I got them? Not with cash. I couldnt afford it. I did paintwork for other people to offset the cost. I have about $150 invested in the entire collection of 6. Not SSE versions for me. You don't like it when folks have to "flip" things to keep their hobby afloat? Me neither. But I don't see the prices going anywhere but up. So something's gotta give.

Anytime I can turn a piece over and make a profit to buy other pieces that I want more....I'll do it. And it's nobody's business but mine. Not everyone sells an item just to score a quick $60, and doesn't deserve to be grouped together with those that do.:maul

[pixletwin]

I bought a regular Luke from eBay for $100... Was I dumb to do that? Yes. Was the flipper dishonest to sell it to me? No. I look at it as a baptism of sorts into the world of collecting.

In the words of John Lennon regarding money: Grab as much as you can, while you can.

[DannieDarKo]

I just bought a DOOM exclusive PF for the same value as ebay prices ( around $800). Am I dumb, of course not but I'm not going to complain about the eBay market. WIN SOME LOSE SOME. Fair game baby. Pixle I agree brotha and I apologize if my post offended you. I buy from ebay MANY times, I just got caught up with the topic. :o

[galactiboy]

I just bought a DOOM exclusive PF for the same value as ebay prices ( around $800). Am I dumb, of course not but I'm not going to complain about the eBay market. WIN SOME LOSE SOME. Fair game baby. Pixle I agree brotha and I apologize if my post offended you. I buy from ebay MANY times, I just got caught up with the topic. :o

Very true. Ultimately you buy what you want, and how bad you want it becomes the price. Sure paying high prices adds to the scalper/flipper market, but they screw people over first and sometimes you miss out on figures, or join in collecting something later.

I think with flipping, the more socially acceptable practice, the real problem (IMO) is the intent to buy something that you don't want only meaning to quickly turn a profit and screw another collector... thats problematic to me. I remember when the Ardeth Bay SSE came up, I could have easily scored one since they were still available and turned a profit, but I think that would have been a real d!ck move on my part.

[Mithrandier]

What galactiboy said.

People can take offense to and stake sides to this neverending discussion.
And nothing positive will ever come of it.

Nothing is entirely wrong with it. Did I just say that????

Just stinks when you want to get a statue and someone who is selling it, is selling it for $1500 or $1000 when it only cost them $300. And guess what, I do not buy it. I have bought a SSW Treebeard bust for $400. But I thought that was a resonable price. Had it been $500 or higher, I still would not have that piece.

But it is kinda sad when people start complaining that the prices are going down. Oh well. Great for me and those that are waiting for them to fall. Sucks if you bought one for $1000 and hoped to get that out of it or more down the road. That is why I do not look at it as an investment.

[Boba Fett]

I never look at my collectibles as an investment. I get too attached to them to even consider making a profit on them.

But when I was introduced to SS and GG, I just couldn't bare to continue collecting Hasbro and decided to sell off my collection in order to fund my new addiction with SS and GG.

[EVILFACE]

Just stinks when you want to get a statue and someone who is selling it, is selling it for $1500 or $1000 when it only cost them $300. And guess what, I do not buy it. I have bought a SSW Treebeard bust for $400. But I thought that was a resonable price. Had it been $500 or higher, I still would not have that piece.


That is supply and demand. Why sell something for 300 when it normally sells for 1500.

12 back Darth Vaders sell for thousands of dollars, but sold in stores for $1.98. So we should demand that sellers ask 2 bucks for them cause if not they are flipping scalpers :rotfl

[owtkasted]

You don't have to do anything. It is your choice to pay those prices and by doing so you are facilitating the problem. Then you come on the boards and complain about it, like you are some sort of victim. These things aren't necessities, they are luxuries.
I buy direct from Sideshow and was not talking about myself. Casual collectors and specific item (mabye sombody who collect just Jaws items) mabye wont know about here or Sideshow.com to get the exclusive so they use ebay. This whole topic got twisted around, my point is how can buying a item, no matter the cose, just to sell it for a few bucks be any kind of fun or living? Buying doubles to help people out is a totally cool thing to do but flipping is a sorry thing to do. You are not getting ritch, sometimes you dont even get enough to buy the next figure you want.

[owtkasted]

Very true. Ultimately you buy what you want, and how bad you want it becomes the price. Sure paying high prices adds to the scalper/flipper market, but they screw people over first and sometimes you miss out on figures, or join in collecting something later.

I think with flipping, the more socially acceptable practice, the real problem (IMO) is the intent to buy something that you don't want only meaning to quickly turn a profit and screw another collector... thats problematic to me. I remember when the Ardeth Bay SSE came up, I could have easily scored one since they were still available and turned a profit, but I think that would have been a real d!ck move on my part.
Exactly, paying aftermarket prices after months is a part of the hobby but to buy something that you don't want only meaning to quickly turn a profit and screw another collector is wrong.

[DannieDarKo]

You are not getting ritch, sometimes you dont even get enough to buy the next figure you want.


Oh trust me........some get rich! Or shall I say "ritch". :rotfl

I on the other hand make most of my money in Bingo Hall Tournaments. Nothing feels better than winning those old folks social security money. :monkey5

[DannieDarKo]

flipping is a sorry thing to do

IN MY OPINION, flipping is fine as someone just posted if the right oppurtunity presented itself and honestly don't care if thats not the case for someone else. Its none of my business what they do with their stash.

A "sorry thing to do" would be offering assistance to a little old lady carrying her groceries and then run off with them before she can say "BINGO!" :monkey3

[DannieDarKo]

Shhhhh .....quiet everyone! SideshowChris is currently reading this thread......Hi Chris! :wave

[Fritz]

...A "sorry thing to do" would be offering assistance to a little old lady carrying her groceries and then run off with them before she can say "BINGO!"

I admit I do this but it's only to fund other groceries. :newangel :moon

[King Darkness]

I admit I do this but it's only to fund other groceries. :newangel :moon

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl

Well then, that makes it O.K.


IN MY OPINION, flipping is fine as someone just posted if the right oppurtunity presented itself and honestly don't care if thats not the case for someone else. Its none of my business what they do with their stash.

I agee fully with this statement!

[dekadentdave]

The only flipping I'll be doing is giving the finger to Flippers whose sole intent is to profit off genuine collectors at exorbitant prices. :moon

[Bannister]

The only flipping I'll be doing is giving the finger to Flippers whose sole intent is to profit off genuine collectors at exorbitant prices. :moon
But no genuine collector would give their hard earned genuine collector dollars to a scalper. That would go against everything they stand for.

[dekadentdave]

Truer words have never been spoken, but that doesn't stop the Flippers from trying to take advantage of us by hoarding all the good stuff.

[customizerwannabe]

Once you own it you can do what you want with it. No one is holding a gun to those ebay suckers heads. Just sold my 2 exclusive Han Solos (because the figure sucks)at a cumulative loss of 35.00 Those poor ebay bidders.:rolleyes:

[kierbaudy]

I do it. But, I only buy my limit. I don't have 20 other accounts, just my single account and buy the exclusive. I may buy a regular and then decide if the exclusive is worth the extra dough, most of the time not. I think buyers are lucky if they buy from me... I charge a whole lot but at least they get their stuff. So, I don't feel guilty. It is one thing to sell something and not deliver.

[goliath]

I dont understand the point in buying a item ONLY to resale it to make a few bucks.

Millions of people do it on the stock markets every day... :rolleyes:

[MisterToyNYC]

Millions of people do it on the stock markets every day... :rolleyes:

Well said.

Eric

[occulum]

Millions of people do it on the stock markets every day... :rolleyes:
thats the point of stocks. People dont collect stocks to put on a shelf :lol

.. but to each their own, no biggie. .. pop..puh..