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Yoshi
06-07-2013, 06:44 AM
The ONLY thing I enjoyed about Robo3 is when they reprogrammed ED-209 =P

Reinhardt
06-07-2013, 07:09 AM
I like 1 and 2. I didn't technically watch the 3rd one. I just had it running in the background while I did some work I had to do :lol

What a **** movie. I haven't seen it in some time. I always forget they replaced Weller.

2 had its moments, but overall wasn't nearly on the same level as 1. I really hated the kid, and the mayor was too comical. Cain was pretty cool, but nothing trumps ED-209.


The ONLY thing I enjoyed about Robo3 is when they reprogrammed ED-209 =P

Agreed, ED-209 was pretty amazing, they finally were able to make his movements fluid, and not too stop motiony... I wasn't a fan at all of everything else, including Robo's jetpack.

Hologram AI
06-07-2013, 08:01 AM
Got $700 in this weeks bonus so I PO'd both this and ED. Boy did it hurt seeing the total cost for both of them. :panic: Beautiful figured though, couldn't resist for long.

Bo Shrek
06-07-2013, 08:13 AM
I don't remember the third one myself. Watched bit here and there...I recall a jet pack

Hologram AI
06-07-2013, 08:15 AM
I don't remember the third one myself. Watched bit here and there...I recall a jet pack
And that's all you need to remember. You're lucky to not remember much of the third one. :lol

Biojex
06-07-2013, 11:07 AM
2 had its moments, but overall wasn't nearly on the same level as 1. I really hated the kid, and the mayor was too comical. Cain was pretty cool, but nothing trumps ED-209.

Design wise I'd agree. ED-209 > Cain

But from a villain standpoint and on action scenes...Cain > ED-209

Both are great, and I really hope to have Cain along with ED and Robo on my shelf someday.

Reinhardt
06-07-2013, 12:23 PM
Design wise I'd agree. ED-209 > Cain

But from a villain standpoint and on action scenes...Cain > ED-209

Both are great, and I really hope to have Cain along with ED and Robo on my shelf someday.

There is no question that the battle scenes between Robocop and Cain were pretty insane. I guess I just wasn't as invested in it because the story leading up to fight at the end wasn't great. I'll have to check it out again... WAIT, maybe not, or I'll probably for sure want Cain, and I REALLY could use the money for something else, like I don't know... FOOD?!

Biojex
06-07-2013, 12:33 PM
Food. Pfffft. Ill just eat what robocop eats.

Reinhardt
06-07-2013, 12:48 PM
Food. Pfffft. Ill just eat what robocop eats.

LOL However, baby food is more expensive than even Ramen noodles!

Snake Plissken
06-07-2013, 05:31 PM
http://youtu.be/7pOoSe2K5DU

Reinhardt
06-07-2013, 05:40 PM
LOL, I remember that from back in the day. Although, it could fit in seamlessly in Robocop 3.

Jedi Princess
06-07-2013, 09:29 PM
http://youtu.be/7pOoSe2K5DU

Somewhere Paige Fletcher is sighing with relief. "I'm not the worst Robocop ever anyone!"

highlander1
06-07-2013, 09:37 PM
So havent decided if want to buy the hot toys ed 209 robocop but p.od the neca 10 inch version due out september here's pitu 's reaction lol....It least my robocop will have some company for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dlsdBZCOlc8

Eamon
06-08-2013, 03:41 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/941175_477007462378147_1186646804_n.jpg


How cool is this??!! :rock:

LipSmack
06-08-2013, 03:42 AM
How cool is this??!! :rock:

9/10.... only cause he isnt shooting someone in the junk

Darthgothikus
06-08-2013, 04:32 AM
Just. Can't wait for this figure (although I will!), going to be such a great upgrade to my (slightly) pose able, 1/6 model kit!

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt20/Darthgothikus/null_zps63ff5462.jpg

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt20/Darthgothikus/null_zpsd94a117a.jpg

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt20/Darthgothikus/null_zps0c093762.jpg

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt20/Darthgothikus/null_zps2543a083.jpg

Darthgothikus
06-08-2013, 05:48 AM
Robocock :)

telonio
06-08-2013, 10:11 AM
Preordered this instead of the chair version and also ED209. Always wanted a Robocop and ED209 figure! Long wait but that's fine with me, as long as they do not ship with HT Batman Returns figures.

P.
06-08-2013, 10:40 AM
http://gizmodo.com/5644349/the-inhuman-anatomy-of-robocopfanart as a source of information.
like writing an article on wikipedia and then sending people to it :D

Ash Housewares
06-08-2013, 02:10 PM
:lol


Staying with that subject...




http://gizmodo.com/5644349/the-inhuman-anatomy-of-robocop

Sorry but this is BS. Someone has just made this all up. Heck the outer armor isn't even accurate.

Grosby
06-08-2013, 07:42 PM
Not saying it's accurate (and maybe it's been posted already) but if anyone is interested that picture comes from a Japanese 'making of' book, as explained and shown in more detail here:

http://www.robocoparchive.com/info/blueprints.htm

HottoyzJoker
06-09-2013, 06:55 AM
BBTS already sold out of pre orders for robo and ed209 glad i got my orders in on day 1 fastest hot toys figure ive seen sell out like that...

a-dev
06-09-2013, 07:15 AM
BBTS already sold out of pre orders for robo and ed209 glad i got my orders in on day 1 fastest hot toys figure ive seen sell out like that...

Theres 2 ways HT could respond to unanticipated massive success on the Robocop line - they could forge ahead with Robocop 2 and 3 stuff and really milk it like Iron Man - or they could decide 'oh, Robocop is so popular it will sell whenever, lets delay everything else indefinitely so we can focus on Marvel'.

Crimsonbob
06-09-2013, 07:22 AM
Waiman from Onesixthbruce has had more sales on this fig than anything else before. Also i have been told that other sellers are selling large amounts as well.

Invictus Sol
06-09-2013, 08:51 AM
Theres 2 ways HT could respond to unanticipated massive success on the Robocop line - they could forge ahead with Robocop 2 and 3 stuff and really milk it like Iron Man - or they could decide 'oh, Robocop is so popular it will sell whenever, lets delay everything else indefinitely so we can focus on Marvel'.
I don't know if the market's there for 2 and 3 like it is for the first movie, though. Certainly I have no love for the sequels and the Robo/ED-209 combo is all I'll ever want from the franchise.

From the sounds of things, there are quite a few people that would like a RoboCain (but I would expect this to take a long time... looks like a complex bit of engineering) and I guess in that situation they could do another Robo with a blue tint. Can't really see jetpack RoboCop 3 ever making it out, though. I'd definitely be surprised to see it, considering all the competing franchises HT has with more worthy characters.



Waiman from Onesixthbruce has had more sales on this fig than anything else before. Also i have been told that other sellers are selling large amounts as well.
Urban Samurai sold out the first day, I think, but got another allocation from SSC, because it came up again as available for pre-order. RoboCop/Chair combination has sold through a second time, though.

JD_Myers
06-09-2013, 10:55 AM
CKB have just opened up more spots for this guy.

GO GET EM!

a-dev
06-09-2013, 10:57 AM
Oh well. I already ordered with collectiblesdirect. I did order the chair Robo with collectablekitbash though.

Crimsonbob
06-09-2013, 12:06 PM
Tbh OSB, CKB and CD are all good sellers and a few extra quid here or there isn't a killer.

mehpocalypse
06-09-2013, 06:33 PM
I think I'm gonna have to get one of these. I'd love to get ED-209 as well but I gotta eat...therefore my kenner ED-260 will have to suffice :)

CollectorGuy
06-09-2013, 11:26 PM
I think I'm gonna have to get one of these. I'd love to get ED-209 as well but I gotta eat...therefore my kenner ED-260 will have to suffice :)

Lol kenner :lol Well at least get robo he looks amazing. You could always get the neca
ed-209 for 60 bucks. It looks very accurate and would suffice more than your kenner ed-260 i'm sure.

tylerdurden
06-09-2013, 11:41 PM
was debating whether or not to get the one with the docking station chair, but finally decided on this instead. the other one is nice but simply too pricey.

the other thing that kept me from pre-ordering earlier was whether to get ht's 1/6 or enterbay's 1/4. as much as i like the 1/4 scale, i understand ht is also making a 1/6 robocain and i've been waiting forever for someone to do it. so a 1/4 robocop wouldn't match. hope ht doesn't flake out on doing cain...

Wanderer
06-09-2013, 11:58 PM
If anyone wants Robo w/gun arm going cheap at £150 shipped worldwide, PM me :)

P.
06-10-2013, 04:55 AM
Theres 2 ways HT could respond to unanticipated massive success on the Robocop line - they could forge ahead with Robocop 2 and 3 stuff and really milk it like Iron Man that would be at least sane and normal.
unlike that stupid gold-red crown.

a-dev
06-10-2013, 05:34 AM
that would be at least sane and normal.
unlike that stupid gold-red crown.

You and me have the exact same plan for this line by the way.

creature4000
06-10-2013, 05:46 AM
And what plan is that?? :monkey3

Yoshi
06-10-2013, 05:51 AM
I want this figure so bad but ED has to come first.

a-dev
06-10-2013, 06:12 AM
And what plan is that?? :monkey3

I can't say. Last time I did someone got pissed off.

VintijDroidGutzz
06-10-2013, 06:22 AM
If I wanted to get this guy, the cheapest here locally at the moment is $350AUD.. damn. :monkey4

Hopefully RoboMurphy will hit the spot for me, since it clearly won't be any CHEAPER than that. :gah: :lol

Bucky Underbelly
06-10-2013, 06:25 AM
Since this is selling out so far in advance, my guess is, HT will increase their production numbers accordingly. I'd bet you'll see a lot of these sellers open ordering back up in the coming months as HT adjusts to the demand.

predarnold
06-10-2013, 09:55 AM
If I wanted to get this guy, the cheapest here locally at the moment is $350AUD.. damn. :monkey4

Hopefully RoboMurphy will hit the spot for me, since it clearly won't be any CHEAPER than that. :gah: :lol

Stop crying. It costs $385 in Poland. (US dollars)

VintijDroidGutzz
06-10-2013, 11:32 AM
Stop crying. It costs $385 in Poland. (US dollars)
You're a charming little fellow aren't you.. :lol

Snake Plissken
06-10-2013, 12:47 PM
Stop crying. It costs $385 in Poland. (US dollars)

Ouch. Frigging customs are terrible.

CyberVillain
06-10-2013, 01:01 PM
Just PO this, so if you read this Hot Toys and are thinking not to add the unmasked head to this version, think again!

Dollmanron
06-10-2013, 11:19 PM
So without going back to look for the answer; and that even if there is one, how are Hot Toys going to hide the seam in the face (because of the four interchangeable lower faces) when you display Robocop without (as Murphy) his helmet?

Eisselmann
06-10-2013, 11:44 PM
So without going back to look for the answer; and that even if there is one, how are Hot Toys going to hide the seam in the face (because of the four interchangeable lower faces) when you display Robocop without (as Murphy) his helmet?

Well, that's simple... we KILL the Batman!

Nah, they're not gonna hide the seam since there will be no unhelmeted HS on this figure.
Just the Helmet, an eye underneath and four mouthplates.

Indiana
06-11-2013, 12:15 AM
Yeah, and the Murphy head they posted a sneak peak of includes a different neck (as it is different in the movie), which, if interchangeable with the current figure, would be able to change it out after taking off the chest armor. (speculative)

CyberVillain
06-11-2013, 03:41 AM
So without going back to look for the answer; and that even if there is one, how are Hot Toys going to hide the seam in the face (because of the four interchangeable lower faces) when you display Robocop without (as Murphy) his helmet?

Why would the unmasked head support the interchangeable lower faces?

Mr Walker
06-12-2013, 02:57 AM
Since this is selling out so far in advance, my guess is, HT will increase their production numbers accordingly. I'd bet you'll see a lot of these sellers open ordering back up in the coming months as HT adjusts to the demand.

Put your house on it.

Unless of course HT have decided they no longer like money....

mazda-rx7
06-12-2013, 10:23 PM
I wish the price was lower. Since I bought the original back then I paid $125.
$300 dollars is alot. But the updated feature makes me want this also.

Bo Shrek
06-12-2013, 11:15 PM
I like this figure but I don't know Diecast which is why I am on the sidelines at this moment

Darthgothikus
06-14-2013, 02:05 PM
Does anyone here (ideally in the UK) want to sell or trade any of the original releases of HT Robocop, (ideally Flightpack version)?

I've got the new one on order but the way things go, it'll be 12 months before we see him, I need a quicker fix! eBay can go boil its head, if anyone's thinking of offloading for a reasonable price, PM me guys & gals ;)

Centrocal
06-25-2013, 03:45 AM
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20130625/photo/0625-00322-005b2.jpg?t=1372156837136

http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20130625/photo/0625-00322-005b3.jpg?t=1372156871568
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20130625/photo/0625-00322-005b5.jpg?t=1372156924159
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20130625/photo/0625-00322-005b4.jpg?t=1372156896976
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20130625/photo/0625-00322-005b6.jpg?t=1372156955519
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20130625/photo/0625-00322-005b7.jpg?t=1372156974679
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20130625/photo/0625-00322-005b1.jpg?t=1372156795936

VintijDroidGutzz
06-25-2013, 03:51 AM
Looks awesome!! :clap

The holes for his voice speaker aren't obvious.. so that's a good thing. :yess: :lol

HeubertMichael
06-25-2013, 04:05 AM
Wow. Even On.CC pics can't make this figure look ugly.

Fonky
06-25-2013, 04:18 AM
Robo is looking awesome :cool: geah!

Yoshi
06-25-2013, 05:28 AM
My goodness, so is this the final product?

DiFabio
06-25-2013, 06:11 AM
Why is Robo at the Steel Mill?

Kenzzz
06-25-2013, 06:37 AM
the colour is not the same as in the movie. still prefer the old Robo..

Reinhardt
06-25-2013, 07:11 AM
Looks great, but I want the bolts! And the colors look closer to Robo 1 which is my preference.

RIDDICK
06-25-2013, 07:28 AM
Why is Robo at the Steel Mill?
Cuz he's a cyborg. And Terminator was a cyborg sort of. So you know...



the colour is not the same as in the movie. still prefer the old Robo..
Judging by ON.CC pics you better not.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tHcsr83JxzI/S8PPFgdH-vI/AAAAAAAAABQ/hLpzQp5am3M/s1600/yoda.jpg

Bo Shrek
06-25-2013, 07:57 AM
Pictures are great, but with different lighting they do bring out the question.....$300???

Reinhardt
06-25-2013, 08:12 AM
In looking at it again, it does look more plasticky to the previous pics we have seen.

Yoshi
06-25-2013, 08:20 AM
http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab256/Gigerfan/7752_10151423197047344_595844120_n.jpg
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20130625/photo/0625-00322-005b7.jpg?t=1372156974679
Pretty sure it's just the lighting effects right?

ebor
06-25-2013, 08:38 AM
Pictures are great, but with different lighting they do bring out the question.....$300???

$300 is the new $200:rotfl

I want to know what exactly is die-cast and what is not. This sucker will be heavy. I bet if you put this and the ED-209 on one (top) shelf of a detlof, watch for smashing sounds coming from the man-cave:panic:

Centrocal
06-25-2013, 08:44 AM
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20130625/photo/0625-00322-005b2.jpg?t=1372156837136



"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer it be injected directly into my stomach through a tube. "

"Stay out of trouble, my friends." -RoboCop

DeadLeaves
06-26-2013, 07:45 AM
In looking at it again, it does look more plasticky to the previous pics we have seen.

It's called overexposure. :lol

Still looks like solid gold to me.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 09:08 AM
I often wonder is folks, especially Americans really get Robocop.

It's pretty much a big middle figure to American culture.
I only ask as Team America didn't go down too well over there from what I remember.
I wonder why Robocop is getting away with it unless many just don't see what it's actually saying or they do get it and just don't care.

Bo Shrek
06-26-2013, 09:14 AM
I often wonder is folks, especially Americans really get Robocop.

It's pretty much a big middle figure to American culture.
I only ask as Team America didn't go down too well over there from what I remember.
I wonder why Robocop is getting away with it unless many just don't see what it's actually saying or they do get it and just don't care.

Sorry man I don't understand what you are trying to say. No disrespect just not understanding.

Zodach
06-26-2013, 09:24 AM
I'm also curious what you think the movie/property says about American culture Eamon.

Femtech
06-26-2013, 09:25 AM
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer it be injected directly into my stomach through a tube. "

"Stay out of trouble, my friends." -RoboCop

haha :clap

Eamon
06-26-2013, 09:38 AM
I'm also curious what you think the movie/property says about American culture Eamon.

Well it's not what I think, it's what it is. ;)



Sorry man I don't understand what you are trying to say. No disrespect just not understanding.

Well some see Robocop as as just movie about a dude who gets changed into a machine and then kicks some ***.

Robocop is actually about America's overt capitalism, where it's headed and big middle finger to the Regan era.

Bo Shrek
06-26-2013, 09:49 AM
To young to read that much into it as a kid. Today (as a adult) I see a movie I enjoyed as a kid!! :dunno

Eamon
06-26-2013, 10:10 AM
To young to read that much into it as a kid. Today (as a adult) I see a movie I enjoyed as a kid!! :dunno

Fair enough!

But just because you didn't notice, doesn't mean it's not there! ;)

RIDDICK
06-26-2013, 10:13 AM
Robocop is actually about America's overt capitalism, where it's headed and big middle finger to the Regan era.
It's pretty obvious but still just one of many different layers of this movie.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 10:19 AM
It's pretty obvious but still just one of many different layers of this movie.

You say it's obvious but it clearly isn't to some as we have discovered and while I agree that there are other themes, this one is the most dominant.

RIDDICK
06-26-2013, 10:31 AM
and while I agree that there are other themes, this one is the most dominant.

I'd say that the "big corporation" theme was so prominent and cuz it was a common one long before Regan many ppl didn't saw anti-capitalistic undertone.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 10:44 AM
I'd say that the "big corporation" theme was so prominent and cuz it was a common one long before Regan many ppl didn't saw anti-capitalistic undertone.

I guess but Regan was the one who said that 'every American can have anything they want' and really pushed capitalism way more than any other President before him. Capitalism became a whole new animal in the Regan era.

Dollmanron
06-26-2013, 10:52 AM
Why are you guys trying to turn just an old fashion Sci-Fi Cyborg movie into something political?

Khev
06-26-2013, 10:57 AM
Robocop is actually about America's overt capitalism, where it's headed and big middle finger to the Regan era.

Corrupt corporations are hardly unique to a single presidency. In that regard RoboCop is just as relevant today as it was in 1987.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 11:01 AM
Why are you guys trying to turn just an old fashion Sci-Fi Cyborg movie into something political?


No one is trying to do anything. It's all there as you cared to look.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 11:04 AM
Corrupt corporations are hardly unique to a single presidency. In that regard RoboCop is just as relevant today as it was in 1987.

Oh of course its' not unique but Regan did start the credit card "we can have it all" boom and as I said capitalism became a whole new animal under him.

This isn't my opinion. This is all already out there! :)

Khev
06-26-2013, 11:13 AM
Oh of course its' not unique but Regan did start the credit card "we can have it all" boom and as I said capitalism became a whole new animal under him.

This isn't my opinion. This is all already out there! :)

Corrupt corporations are one aspect of the story but that's not what it's "about." If you listen to the director commentary its more of a hard boiled Christ story.



Paul Verhoeven: How you do [a remake] now, you’d have to go into all of the digital world, and I’m not sure that would improve the soul of the movie, you know? The point of Robocop, of course, it is a Christ story. It is about a guy who gets crucified in the first 50 minutes, and then is resurrected in the next 50 minutes, and then is like the supercop of the world, but is also a Jesus figure as he walks over water at the end. Walking over water was in the steel factory in Pittsburgh, and there was water there, and I put something just underneath the water so he could walk over the water and say that wonderful line, “I am not arresting you anymore.” Meaning, I’m going to shoot you. And that is of course the American Jesus.

Read more: http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2010/04/paul-verhoeven-robocop-was-a-jesus-metaphor#ixzz2XLahdKoa

Sorry but I think I'll take the director's word over yours. ;)

Eamon
06-26-2013, 11:22 AM
Corrupt corporations are one aspect of the story but that's not what it's
"about." If you listen to the director commentary its more of a hard boiled Christ story.

Sorry but I think I'll take the director's word over yours. ;)


“I am not arresting you anymore.” Meaning, I’m going to shoot you. And that is of course the American Jesus."

What exactly do you think he is saying there? do you think that's a compliment?

I assume then that the TV adverts throughout the movie and the whole plot with **** Jones vrs Bob what's his face is all just background material?

Khev
06-26-2013, 11:37 AM
You are quoting the director's words but are you understanding the directors words?

“I am not arresting you anymore.” Meaning, I’m going to shoot you. And that is of course the American Jesus."

What exactly do you think he is saying there? do you think that's a compliment?

Oh I know that Verhoeven doesn't have a Biblical view of Jesus or that Robocop isn't supposed to represent Biblical Jesus but rather an "American" take on him. Those Americans (or whoever else) who worship Jesus but still want him to "kick ***" or wipe out non-believers or what have you. Obviously that's not a complimentary view, but those people do exist and the film recognizes that. Obviously Verhoeven's assumption that *all* of America views Jesus in such a manner is amiss.

However I find it interesting that after Murphy said "I'm not arresting you anymore," he did NOT shoot Clarence. He could have from the other side of the pool if he wanted to. Why did he call his name? Why walk toward him so slowly? Oh I know, "dramatic drawn out movie cliche," BUT given that he's the Christ figure I also see Murphy as pausing to give Boddiker one last chance. What do you want Clarence, salvation or damnation? You're on your death bed here, make the call...."

That's how I see it. As an American and a Christian I'm not offended at all.


I assume then that the TV adverts throughout the movie and the whole plot with **** Jones vrs Bob what's his face is all just background material?

The TV commercials were added after the first cut was given an X-rating (NC-17 didn't exist at that time) by the MPAA. Verhoeven reworked the movie several times, sometimes trimming violence and sometimes adding extra comedy to lighten the tone of the movie.

Ironically he thought that the "X-rated" violence was so over the top that it was impossible to take seriously and that by cutting the bloodshed to a more "realistic" level the theatrical movie actually ended up MORE disturbing than when it got the X.

VintijDroidGutzz
06-26-2013, 11:37 AM
Why are you guys trying to turn just an old fashion Sci-Fi Cyborg movie into something political?
:lol

:monkey1

Eamon
06-26-2013, 11:51 AM
That's how I see it. As an American and a Christian I'm not offended at all.

Oh I am not saying you neccessarly should be.
No more than I should be offended by Irish being depicted as heavy drinkers in movies.

If you don't think one of Robocop's major themes is American Corporate greed and overt capitalistic nature then fair enough.

I am sure this left wing Dutch director never says what he wants you to hear. ;)

Khev
06-26-2013, 11:52 AM
Ed Neumeier stated that he actually wrote the script in 1981 after seeing a poster for Blade Runner and having no idea what it was about. Reagan would have only been in office a few months at that point.

Khev
06-26-2013, 11:56 AM
Oh I am not saying you neccessarly should be.
No more than I should be offended by Irish being depicted as heavy drinkers in movies.

If you don't think one of Robocop's major themes is American Corporate greed and overt capitalistic nature then fair enough.

I am sure this left wing Dutch director never says what he wants you to hear. ;)

Oh I know that corporate corruption and consumerism is a dark element of America and that the film calls it out, I just don't think that they define our country or are exclusive to our country to the point where any film that includes those themes is automatically anti-American.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 11:59 AM
Ed Neumeier stated that he actually wrote the script in 1981 after seeing a poster for Blade Runner and having no idea what it was about. Reagan would have only been in office a few months at that point.

So what? The script clearly evolved and the adverts added in later on proves is in line with that.

Let me ask you this then, why the Nukem advert?

Eamon
06-26-2013, 12:02 PM
Oh I know that corporate corruption and consumerism is a dark element of America and that the film calls it out, I just don't think that they define our country or are exclusive to our country to the point where any film that includes those themes is automatically anti-American.

No my guess is no American would say that defines their country.

A left leaning highly liberal Dutch director might though. ;)

Khev
06-26-2013, 12:11 PM
So what? The script clearly evolved and the adverts added in later on proves is in line with that.

Let me ask you this then, why the Nukem advert?

What do you mean "clearly" evolved. How can you possibly know that? I saw the Nukem ad as both poking fun at the notion that most problems can be solved with the threat of nuclear attack (because that always calms things down, according to a certain Avenger ;)) and just the increasing level of violence in family entertainment. Years before Mortal Kombat, Quake, Call of Duty, etc., I find that ad incredibly prophetic.


No my guess is no American would say that defines their country.

A left leaning highly liberal Dutch director might though. ;)

So you're asking why we like the movie if those are Verhoeven's personal beliefs? I just want to be clear before I respond.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 12:21 PM
What do you mean "clearly" evolved.

You said the adverts were added later yes? Therefore the narritive evolved.


I saw the Nukem ad as both poking fun at the notion that most problems can be solved with the threat of nuclear attack (because that always calms things down, according to a certain Avenger ;)) and just the increasing level of violence in family entertainment. Years before Mortal Kombat, Quake, Call of Duty, etc., I find that ad incredibly prophetic.

Well there is some of that but it more about how America sees (or doesn't as the case is in Robocop) the rest of the world and making a game of real world events illustrating the certain level of obliviousness.

stshammgod
06-26-2013, 12:23 PM
http://t.qkme.me/3qyfdn.jpg

VintijDroidGutzz
06-26-2013, 12:25 PM
^ :rotfl

Clarence always did say it best. :D

Zodach
06-26-2013, 12:25 PM
It's pretty much a big middle figure to American culture.


Is it ironic that if this was the director's purpose in making the movie, his career was made by some of the most greedy and capitalistic companies in the world (movie studios), aided by American consumerism (movie goers)? Talk about a hypocrite.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 12:27 PM
So you're asking why we like the movie if those are Verhoeven's personal beliefs? I just want to be clear before I respond.

No! I am asking why a movie that is very critical of America is so popular in America.

My theory is that most Americans don't see that is very critical of America....which is becoming apparent. ;)

Reinhardt
06-26-2013, 12:29 PM
Two lines from **** Jones that focus on the corporate corruption theme of Robocop.

"I had a guarantee military sale with ED 209. Renovation program. Spare parts for 25 years. Who cares if it worked or not?"

"Probably just a glitch."

Also, the Jesus theme is pretty obvious.

The audio commentary on the Criterion DVD is utterly fascinating, and really gives a lot of insight into what Verhoeven, Neumeier, and Davison were thinking.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 12:34 PM
Is it ironic that if this was the director's purpose, his career was made by some of the most greedy and capitalistic companies in the world (movie studios), aided by American consumerism (movie goers)? Talk about a hypocrite.

That's a very silly thing to say dude.

I assume then that critical opinion should never happen then? Every movie should be about how awesome stuff is I guess!

Zodach
06-26-2013, 12:35 PM
My theory is that most Americans don't see that is very critical of America....which is becoming apparent. ;)

I think most people are apathetic to the criticism though. We're definitely used to it by now. America is such a large and diverse culture that unless it calls me out specifically, I don't take offense to the generalizations people make about the country as a whole. Most of the time you can find some truth in the criticism, but it doesn't apply to everyone. This country is not perfect, just better than everyone else

:ccheerlea :flag :wink1:

Zodach
06-26-2013, 12:41 PM
That's a very silly thing to say dude.

I assume then that critical opinion should never happen then? Every movie should be about how awesome stuff is I guess!

I don't think you understand my point. If Verhoeven truly thinks capitalism and greed are a bad thing, yet he is willing to benefit financially from them doesn't that make his position a bit disingenuous.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 12:41 PM
Two lines from **** Jones that focus on the corporate corruption theme of Robocop.

"I had a guarantee military sale with ED 209. Renovation program. Spare parts for 25 years. Who cares if it worked or not?"

"Probably just a glitch."

.

"Too bad about Kenny. That's life in the big City"

"I am cashing you out Bob"

The whole Directive Four is about how untouchable company CEO's can be. Robocop cannot arrest Jones until he is fired.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 12:51 PM
I don't think you understand my point. If Verhoeven truly thinks capitalism and greed are a bad thing, yet he is willing to benefit financially from them doesn't that make his position a bit disingenuous.

No it doesn't make him disingenuous.

Anybody who wants to put a message out has to work within the system that exists.

Is James Cameron being disingenuous making an environmental movie given the massive carbon footprint left by a production that big?!

Zodach
06-26-2013, 12:58 PM
Is James Cameron being disingenuous making an environmental movie given the massive carbon footprint left by a production that big?!

Does the end justify the means :dunno

We could debate this all day. All I know is 10 year old me saw Robocop as a cool machine man fighting the bad guys. Political undertones weren't really something I looked for at that age. :lol

Eamon
06-26-2013, 01:04 PM
Does the end justify the means :dunno

We could debate this all day. All I know is 10 year old me saw Robocop as a cool machine man fighting the bad guys. Political undertones weren't really something I looked for at that age. :lol

Well to be fair the only debatable thing is weather people see all the themes or not. ;)

I find I appreciate movies more in my later years when you discover all the nuances that passed you buy.

It's like Ghostbusters. That movie is even more funny and awesome as an adult.

Zodach
06-26-2013, 01:09 PM
I find I appreciate movies more in my later years when you discover all the nuances that passed you buy.


It really does allow you to appreciate the art of film making as you get older. I loved Robocop as a kid but I have not watched it in the last 15-20 years. It's been a long time. I bet a lot of people watched Robocop in the 80's and left it there.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 01:13 PM
It really does allow you to appreciate the art of film making as you get older. I loved Robocop as a kid but I have not watched it in the last 15-20 years. It's been a long time. I bet a lot of people watched Robocop in the 80's and left it there.

Oh yeah!!
And when you know that ED209 was some dude moving a model frame by frame and putting in all that hard practicle work, you develop much more respect for older movies that still entertain.

There's so much more going on in Robocop when you watch it with adult eyes.

The Last Action Hero is way better as an adult for instance.

Khev
06-26-2013, 01:20 PM
You said the adverts were added later yes? Therefore the narritive evolved.

I guess I assumed you meant that "what the movie was about" evolved from one thing into another. Yes of courses nuances here and there undoubtedly evolved over the six year process of concept to finished film.


No! I am asking why a movie that is very critical of America is so popular in America.

My theory is that most Americans don't see that is very critical of America....which is becoming apparent. ;)

Its because the things that RoboCop "criticizes" are the things most Americans agree with. Nobody likes the "**** Joneses" of the world so we sympathize with those who are hurt by them and cheer for those who take them down. Murhpy was an American boy scout and RoboCop himself was technically a "corporate product" that was put to good use.

The notion that "America = bad," "all corporations = bad," "all consumerism = bad" just isn't supported on film or by filmmaker commentary.


There's so much more going on in Robocop when you watch it with adult eyes.

When I saw RoboCop in the theater as a 13 year old in 1987 the scene that horrified me the most was the obliteration of Kenny (which just sounds funny now after so many years of South Park.) Just picturing myself going to some posh office and having something that nasty happen was very disturbing.

But watching it again for the first time in close to 10 years at age 38 and now a husband and father of two I found myself much more connected to the tragedy of Murphy. Wanting to be a good role model for his son, having his family taken away prematurely (and wrongly.) Being "alive" but having NO HOPE of things ever going back the way they were, and yet still doing what's right. Somber and harsh but still inspiring.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 01:39 PM
The notion that "America = bad," "all corporations = bad," "all consumerism = bad" just isn't supported on film or by filmmaker commentary.

Being critical of something doesn't necessarily mean you think it's evil or bad.

It could just mean you think it needs fixing or improving!

Khev
06-26-2013, 01:42 PM
Well by definition pretty much every aspect of our country needs improvement somewhere, why do you think anyone would be put off by that?

Do you actually believe that Americans as a whole are painfully sensitive to the slightest criticism? Because if that's the case, as our appreciation for films like RoboCop can attest, we absolutely are not. :)

Eamon
06-26-2013, 01:51 PM
Well by definition pretty much every aspect of our country needs improvement somewhere, why do you think anyone would be put off by that?

Do you actually believe that Americans as a whole are painfully sensitive to the slightest criticism? Because if that's the case, as our appreciation for films like RoboCop can attest, we absolutely are not. :)

I hear ya, though you'll forgive me if I need a little more convincing on that front! ;)

Khev
06-26-2013, 01:53 PM
Did you just criticize my convincing skills? I hope your country gets nuked.

Eamon
06-26-2013, 01:56 PM
Just remember, Murphy was Irish! :D

Khev
06-26-2013, 01:58 PM
So am I. :rock

RIDDICK
06-26-2013, 03:15 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma7l37acFb1r8xzdwo2_500.jpg

DiFabio
06-26-2013, 07:21 PM
However I find it interesting that after Murphy said "I'm not arresting you anymore," he did NOT shoot Clarence. He could have from the other side of the pool if he wanted to. Why did he call his name? Why walk toward him so slowly? Oh I know, "dramatic drawn out movie cliche," BUT given that he's the Christ figure I also see Murphy as pausing to give Boddiker one last chance. What do you want Clarence, salvation or damnation? You're on your death bed here, make the call...."

Fun fact.

In the original script, after saying "I'm not arresting you anymore", Murphy was just going to walk right up to Clarence and bash his face in, resulting in a bloody mess.


Joe was originally going to have a gruesome, ironic death instead of simply being shot up by Murphy and falling over.

Centrocal
06-26-2013, 08:13 PM
Deep thoughts, with RoboCop :













http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20130625/photo/0625-00322-005b2.jpg?t=1372156837136











"... F*#K THE POLICE." -RoboCop












This has been Deep thoughts, with RobCop.

Khev
06-26-2013, 08:26 PM
Fun Fact: Verhoeven wanted Rutger Hauer or Arnold Schwarzenegger to play Murphy but both men were too broad to wear the already bulky suit.

Eisselmann
06-26-2013, 09:14 PM
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20130625/photo/0625-00322-005b4.jpg?t=1372156896976


I like how they dumped the springs that connected to the pistons and used joints.

DiFabio
06-26-2013, 09:43 PM
Fun Fact: Verhoeven wanted Rutger Hauer or Arnold Schwarzenegger to play Murphy but both men were too broad to wear the already bulky suit.

And Michael Ironside.

That'd been pretty weird actually. :lol

Reinhardt
06-27-2013, 06:14 AM
Truly a brilliant film, which is so much more than just action, special effects, and violence.

One of the great things about the new 2014 Robocop film are the new Hot Toys figures. Now all we need is a Criterion blu-ray dammit!

VintijDroidGutzz
06-27-2013, 06:20 AM
And Michael Ironside.

That'd been pretty weird actually. :lol

That reminds me of other casting 'almosts' - like:

William Katt as Luke Skywalker

Cindy Williams as Leia

Tom Selleck as Indy

Lance Henriksen as the T-800 (was true to the original idea anyway)

Robin Williams as the Joker (1989)

Nic Cage as Superman (:monkey4)



Ahhhh.. what could've been. :lol

Centrocal
06-28-2013, 12:32 AM
http://www.toy-world.com.hk/maga/fk/03_2008/fk_056.jpg

http://www.toy-world.com.hk/maga/fk/03_2008/fk_057.jpg

CAIN MKII
06-28-2013, 01:58 AM
Sweeeeeet :)

Yoshi
06-28-2013, 04:28 AM
Damn, need this guy. Are these pics from On.cc actul in hand shots?
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/lifestyle/20130625/photo/0625-00322-005b7.jpg?t=1372156974679

DeadLeaves
06-28-2013, 04:53 AM
Of course they have/had it in hand. How else would you take pictures?

The prototype, of course. :lol

We'll see pics of the production figures next year.

Yoshi
06-28-2013, 04:57 AM
Of course they have/had it in hand. How else would you take pictures?

The prototype, of course. :lol

We'll see pics of the production figures next year.

My bad, kinda worded that wrongly ha. I was meaning to ask if they were final product as they were taken by someone else other than HotToys photos.

DeadLeaves
06-28-2013, 04:59 AM
No way, not yet.

Dollmanron
06-28-2013, 10:38 AM
http://www.toy-world.com.hk/maga/fk/03_2008/fk_056.jpg

http://www.toy-world.com.hk/maga/fk/03_2008/fk_057.jpg

I want to see what his face looks like with his helmet completely off.

RIDDICK
06-28-2013, 10:46 AM
You want too much. Come back in 2014.

VintijDroidGutzz
06-28-2013, 10:51 AM
You want too much. Come back in 2014.
:lecture :lol

This one ain't.. "MURPHY". :monkey3

P.
06-28-2013, 11:02 AM
I want to see what his face looks like with his helmet completely off.http://s32-temporary-files.radikal.ru/7034f9ab7bc843afaff633e437d39afc/-929206895.jpg

CollectorGuy
06-28-2013, 01:52 PM
http://s32-temporary-files.radikal.ru/7034f9ab7bc843afaff633e437d39afc/-929206895.jpg

My god that stupid kid ruins robocop2, i would enjoy it way more if not for that kid.

OMG
07-02-2013, 09:35 AM
Large pics :panic::panic::panic:


http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb388/ONESIXOMG/Hottoys/Robocop/Robocop1_zps13c840a7.jpg~original

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb388/ONESIXOMG/Hottoys/Robocop/Robocop2_zps55438ddc.jpg~original

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb388/ONESIXOMG/Hottoys/Robocop/Robocop3_zpsb3964125.jpg~original

Khev
07-02-2013, 09:36 AM
PERFECTION! :horror

Snake Plissken
07-02-2013, 09:46 AM
They did a hellva job on Murphy. Definitely going to be one of their best pieces ever.

a-dev
07-02-2013, 09:53 AM
Large pics :panic::panic::panic:


http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb388/ONESIXOMG/Hottoys/Robocop/Robocop1_zps13c840a7.jpg~original

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpMkdPDthT8

V-Raptor
07-02-2013, 10:08 AM
I'm totally agree with your opinion, a-dev.

Spanbauer
07-02-2013, 10:21 AM
They did a hellva job on Murphy. Definitely going to be one of their best pieces ever.
Some Hot Toys figures are just so damn good there's just no hesitation to pre-order; this is definitely one of those figures. I'd say it's their best since '89 Keaton Batman.

Bo Shrek
07-02-2013, 12:24 PM
I know myself and I know I will not allow myself to spend $300 for this.
I certainly can still appreciate the beauty but with the lack of "bell's and whistle's" (backdrop, diorama base, murphy head sculpt etc) it makes it easier to pass.

stshammgod
07-02-2013, 12:42 PM
I know myself and I know I will not allow myself to spend $300 for this.
I certainly can still appreciate the beauty but with the lack of "bell's and whistle's" (backdrop, diorama base, murphy head sculpt etc) it makes it easier to pass.

The whole thing is a bell AND a whistle.

Cap'n Cook
07-02-2013, 01:24 PM
Large pics :panic::panic::panic:


http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb388/ONESIXOMG/Hottoys/Robocop/Robocop1_zps13c840a7.jpg~original

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb388/ONESIXOMG/Hottoys/Robocop/Robocop2_zps55438ddc.jpg~original

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb388/ONESIXOMG/Hottoys/Robocop/Robocop3_zpsb3964125.jpg~original

I love this guy!

Spanbauer
07-02-2013, 01:38 PM
I know myself and I know I will not allow myself to spend $300 for this.
I certainly can still appreciate the beauty but with the lack of "bell's and whistle's" (backdrop, diorama base, murphy head sculpt etc) it makes it easier to pass.
That's how I feel about Hulk; compared to him, this guy is rolling in the bells and whistles. With the interchangeable mouthpieces, gun, gun holster, "spike" hand, fancy display stand, plus the battle-damaged parts - this guy has a lot of display options. And that's the biggest determining factor for me when deciding if a figure is worth it. Hulk...really can't do anything but stand there. He has no accessories and a single facial expression, so I'd become bored with him in a matter of hours.

Bucky Underbelly
07-02-2013, 02:30 PM
The whole thing is a bell AND a whistle.

The RoboWhistle pops out of his left thigh!

:lol

CAIN MKII
07-03-2013, 12:56 AM
Gorgeous but, on these shots, the face looks awfully long.
Bad perspective I suppose.

batsheva
07-03-2013, 01:43 AM
I'm a bit worried when I see those pics, cuz I see a small paint scratch on his right ankle.. seems like HT is using a white based plastic. If they use a silver colored plastic, it will be safer, no? or there's no such thing as a silver colored plastic, I dunno..

Sturanich
07-03-2013, 02:17 AM
I love this guy!

Ha! nice :D

jack burton
07-03-2013, 09:24 AM
Gorgeous but, on these shots, the face looks awfully long.
Bad perspective I suppose.

I was just thinking the same exact thing.

cplhicks
07-03-2013, 03:09 PM
Well I'm pleased I Pre Ordered this:lecture:yess: :D

Cap'n Cook
07-03-2013, 03:19 PM
Ha! nice :D

:lol

:duff

Yoshi
07-03-2013, 03:25 PM
It looks like the paint could chip pretty easily.

2plaz
07-04-2013, 01:22 AM
Noob question: How is this already available to buy on eBay from sellers in Hong kong?

P.
07-04-2013, 01:55 AM
Noob question: How is this already available to buy on eBay from sellers in Hong kong?look for a word "preorder" or "pre-order" on every auction you find.

Yoshi
07-04-2013, 04:56 AM
Noob question: How is this already available to buy on eBay from sellers in Hong kong?

I paid full price for my ED already. You pay the seller, they pay Sideshow or whoever they buy from. Once they have it in stock they send it.

Cap'n Cook
07-04-2013, 10:20 AM
.....and you will have absolutely no PayPal protection when this finally ships. :lol

Sturanich
07-04-2013, 11:08 AM
I bought the first Robocop and ED-209 on eBay from ABC Express, no problems with that or other buys form him, everything well beyond the 90 days thing with PP, not sure about who anyone else has ordered from.

Went with collectiblesdirect for these ones, couldn't wait to pre order :rotfl

RIDDICK
07-04-2013, 11:34 AM
.....and you will have absolutely no PayPal protection when this finally ships. :lol

:exactly: :monkey4:monkey4:monkey4

Yoshi
07-04-2013, 11:35 AM
.....and you will have absolutely no PayPal protection when this finally ships. :lol

The seller I'm buying from is very trustworthy and I've been buying from him for years now.

2plaz
07-04-2013, 12:34 PM
look for a word "preorder" or "pre-order" on every auction you find.

doesn't say pre-order, it says it will ship 30 days after payment

Positron
07-04-2013, 12:40 PM
Well this Robocop figure isnt coming out until next year.

Eisselmann
07-04-2013, 12:54 PM
Well this Robocop figure isnt coming out until next year.

Too bad, isn't it!?! ;)

Cap'n Cook
07-04-2013, 12:55 PM
The seller I'm buying from is very trustworthy and I've been buying from him for years now.

Fair enough. He could still **** you in the *** if he felt like it though.

Big risk involved.

Furyan
07-08-2013, 04:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUnMF7dV86k

Double J
07-08-2013, 10:00 PM
Finally pulled the trigger and pre ordered this guy. It's a must have.

LipSmack
07-08-2013, 10:13 PM
doesn't say pre-order, it says it will ship 30 days after payment

avoid those listings, you will regret it, they will **** you over and your claim will be voided

Zodach
07-09-2013, 07:02 AM
doesn't say pre-order, it says it will ship 30 days after payment

It really doesn't matter what the listing says. The seller is just putting that in there to make sure ebay doesn't pull his listing. Anyone preordering on ebay more than 45 days out is just asking to have their money taken. You can't file a claim after 45 days and you can't leave feedback after 60 days, so even reputable sellers can scam you and come through unscathed. It's not worth it.

LoveMinusZero
07-10-2013, 10:14 PM
I don't know if this has been asked before, but where's the blue/purple tint that he has on his body? The more recent pic I've seen don't seem to have it. What do you guys think about that?

http://604now.com/wordpress2012/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/robocopvancouver.jpg

LoveMinusZero
07-10-2013, 10:27 PM
It's not reflected, it's paint. It's subtle in some shots, but's it's on there.

Anthrapoid
07-11-2013, 05:30 PM
Yes it's definitely paint. I suppose HT might have taken photos of a silver prototype, and the subtle color hues might be added in the final version. They might be working on an automated shading system for production or something along those lines, which will take a few months to finalize.

Sturanich
07-11-2013, 08:10 PM
First robo looked silver but under the right conditions had the rainbow hue to him so I expect they will get it right this time too.

Spanbauer
07-12-2013, 09:27 AM
I don't know if this has been asked before, but where's the blue/purple tint that he has on his body? The more recent pic I've seen don't seem to have it. What do you guys think about that?

http://604now.com/wordpress2012/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/robocopvancouver.jpg
I'm really really happy with how the paint looks on the figure, and I think they've got enough of those variants in colors added already. I'd hate for them to overdo it and end up with a pink Robocop.

http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab256/Gigerfan/946827_10151423197027344_269910830_n.jpg

CollectorGuy
07-13-2013, 11:13 PM
I like that they made his fingers articulated instead of having to swap tons of hands.

Spanbauer
07-16-2013, 08:43 PM
From this thread at Toys Daily, found these sharper photos from the shop display. I don't think they've been shared here.

http://www.toysdaily.com/discuz/thread-208699-1-3.html

http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_130603/20130603_4ac9f21d01c3a16daa7bkfxjkFXfuWHu.jpg

http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_130603/20130603_270ae585e12df6d1ee92SajTXPiDCSkc.jpg

http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_130603/20130603_2b5f94f6ba3afbf5d87dGBMTbzjUuAot.jpg

http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_130603/20130603_54706af3903e5f55b306KEjs1PXkOEgt.jpg

(Dome looks like fabric to me, btw)

a-dev
07-16-2013, 09:04 PM
Not a pose for ED-209 that I'd go with, I prefer a straightforward standing pose for him. Nevertheless they look cool.

marisinacc
07-16-2013, 10:55 PM
Ed 209 looks fantastic. The pose is not movie-like at all but shows the figure posing possibilities.

Regarding Robo, I'm hoping the armor will have blue and red transparent hues, if they want to make it movie-accurate. It was painted like this by Robb Bottin, as plain silver looks too boring.

CollectorGuy
07-16-2013, 11:37 PM
Still really curious to know exactly how robo's leg holster works and how ed's extending legs will work.

Spanbauer
07-17-2013, 09:55 PM
Regarding Robo, I'm hoping the armor will have blue and red transparent hues, if they want to make it movie-accurate. It was painted like this by Robb Bottin, as plain silver looks too boring.
I see some of that in this SDCC display photo.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q71/s720x720/995736_557297914332203_1027274088_n.jpg

Eisselmann
07-17-2013, 09:56 PM
That figure looks so ****ing awesome!!! :D

Frank
07-17-2013, 10:08 PM
Obscenely perfect movie figure. To think I almost convinced myself to buy the original off Ebay for $500+ :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl





:monkey4

Centrocal
07-17-2013, 10:11 PM
No RoboCain ? :monkey2

CollectorGuy
07-17-2013, 11:41 PM
No RoboCain ? :monkey2

Wait for robo2 then we'll see cain. Their mostly doing robo1 stuff right now.

Took
07-18-2013, 12:01 AM
from Facebook:

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/995427_557373597657968_1073336735_n.jpg

Wanderer
07-18-2013, 12:05 AM
So glad I offloaded the old Robo and ED. Propably didn't get full value for them but hey ho...UPDATED VERSIONS!!!

Agentofchaos
07-18-2013, 12:47 AM
from Facebook:

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/995427_557373597657968_1073336735_n.jpg

BD for the WINNNNN :horror:panic::panic:

Mr Walker
07-18-2013, 01:04 AM
from Facebook:

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/995427_557373597657968_1073336735_n.jpg

Nice. Weller.

CollectorGuy
07-18-2013, 01:58 AM
Nice. Weller.

Those dicks at ht :monkey4 They wont give us a weller head so we have to get both of course.

a-dev
07-18-2013, 05:11 AM
That image would suggest its based on the first film and not Robocop 2 as we heard not long ago. A good thing, I'd much rather complete the looks from the first film.

LOL at the usual 'Coming Soon' bit. We won't see this completed for yonks I bet, let alone released.

VintijDroidGutzz
07-18-2013, 05:36 AM
Awesome poster. :rock

I'm hoping they leave the die-cast & sound gimmick at the door this time.

If so.. could be in my top five wants list. :cool:

RIDDICK
07-18-2013, 05:59 AM
from Facebook:

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/995427_557373597657968_1073336735_n.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/64c27948ab3801d065a1e5ad79722666/tumblr_mg8hg38FzR1rddl6ho1_500.gif

VintijDroidGutzz
07-18-2013, 06:02 AM
RIDDICK approves!! :blissy

:lol

RIDDICK
07-18-2013, 06:03 AM
This and Celtic are the only good news so far so... umm... yeah, I could not be happier :lol
But srsly I didn't expect anything from this year's con.

nathan.never
07-19-2013, 12:10 AM
Looks like Verhoeven predicted what was going to happen to Detroit...

Detroit needs Robocop now...

Khev
07-19-2013, 05:32 PM
http://www.mwctoys.com/sdcc2013/images/sdcc2013_sideshow_116.jpg

sixth_sith
07-19-2013, 05:33 PM
http://www.mwctoys.com/sdcc2013/images/sdcc2013_sideshow_116.jpg

wow, real metal too... gorgeous.

One of the things that really gives the DX10 some validity is it's weight, when you pick it up, it feels like a terminator. I can bet the same thing with this....

What is with those Kissy lips in the bottom right???

P.
07-19-2013, 06:19 PM
What is with those Kissy lips in the bottom right???a feature showing that this time HT bothered to watch the movie.

http://s33-temporary-files.radikal.ru/a3b09c4d7076480b8b7b94c11cc0ff91/-929206895.jpg

http://s38-temporary-files.radikal.ru/052cc8b687984578aca8ca92d2434bdf/-929206895.jpg

http://s33-temporary-files.radikal.ru/36234f40ebf14ac698d7b23c8610448f/-929206895.jpg

http://s31-temporary-files.radikal.ru/96a8aaec4cbe44cc9b4427c26c61be28/-929206895.jpg

http://s36-temporary-files.radikal.ru/baa0165e55444a1aba879c19b7bf3613/-929206895.jpg

throughout half of that scene robocop keeps kis mouth this way.
i guess it was hard to move and breathe with your nose in that active movement.

sixth_sith
07-19-2013, 07:23 PM
:lecture

Nice work P.

I am actually starting to wonder if indeed you are a robot.
Very thorough, systematically logical, and some spice. :)

I'm glad Hot toys watched the movie...

Spanbauer
07-19-2013, 07:25 PM
From Cool Toy Review. Don't think I've seen the back until now.

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64320&d=1374287093

Mr Walker
07-19-2013, 07:56 PM
wow, real metal too... gorgeous.

It's crappy die cast, holds less detail.


One of the things that really gives the DX10 some validity is it's weight, when you pick it up, it feels like a terminator. I can bet the same thing with this....


They're toys. Best "validity" they can have is fine detail, not soft "die-cast" detail.

Ugh.

P.
07-19-2013, 11:57 PM
:lecture

Nice work P.

I am actually starting to wonder if indeed you are a robot.
Very thorough, systematically logical, and some spice. :)

I'm glad Hot toys watched the movie...:D
my girlfriend calls me Sheldon Cooper. the shamest thing somebody can hear about himself i guess. but i found working on myself more inconvenient than living with the social consequenses. well, same as Sheldon Cooper does.


From Cool Toy Review. Don't think I've seen the back until now.

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64320&d=1374287093what's with those black stripes between his legs and butt? O_O
and AVP predator doesn't look yellow here! hope lives again.

P.
07-19-2013, 11:59 PM
oops double post. please delete.

RIDDICK
07-20-2013, 01:57 AM
http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64320&d=1374287093Dat ***, mmm...




my girlfriend calls me Sheldon Cooper. the shamest thing somebody can hear about himself i guess.
I will call you Mr. Spock then :monkey3

P.
07-20-2013, 05:41 AM
I will call you Mr. Spock then :monkey3luckily i a) didn't watch star trek, b) hate its plot, designs and several scenes watched on youtube, c) hate all those ancient space series )))

RIDDICK
07-20-2013, 05:55 AM
Considering what happened to you in the last couple of years... you're gonna love Star Trek eventually :lol

P.
07-20-2013, 07:45 AM
Considering what happened to you in the last couple of years... you're gonna love Star Trek eventually :lol:rotfl
no.
they are totally gay. all of them.

Spanbauer
07-20-2013, 08:53 AM
what's with those black stripes between his legs and butt? O_O
Just the lighting.

Xenu
07-20-2013, 12:47 PM
hopefully the Damaged version can be a toy fairs exclusive with a 2000 Qty limit, that would be cool..!

Sturanich
07-20-2013, 01:14 PM
Yeah so it's really hard to get hold of :dunno

:slap

RIDDICK
07-20-2013, 03:04 PM
hopefully the Damaged version can be a toy fairs exclusive with a 2000 Qty limit, that would be cool..!

I hope you'll pee blood in 2014, THAT WOULD BE COOL! :yess:

sixth_sith
07-20-2013, 03:16 PM
It's crappy die cast, holds less detail.



They're toys. Best "validity" they can have is fine detail, not soft "die-cast" detail.

Ugh.

oh please, i didn't know I needed to state the obvious for you! The detail will be there.. .

I suppose you'd like a cheap styrofoam robocop with lots of detail... :nana:

sixth_sith
07-20-2013, 03:17 PM
:D
my girlfriend calls me Sheldon Cooper. the shamest thing somebody can hear about himself i guess. but i found working on myself more inconvenient than living with the social consequenses. well, same as Sheldon Cooper does.

what's with those black stripes between his legs and butt? O_O
and AVP predator doesn't look yellow here! hope lives again.

lol no kidding

LoveMinusZero
07-21-2013, 12:26 AM
http://www.mwctoys.com/sdcc2013/images/sdcc2013_sideshow_116.jpg


It's looks so great, I can't wait for this thing. I'm still disappointed with the lack of blue and purple paint hues though. Maybe the final product will be different.

Anthrapoid
07-21-2013, 12:30 AM
I want the BD version to be limited to four pieces, and only sold to afro-albino lesbian dwarf trapeze artists, during a leap year.

Yoshi
07-21-2013, 12:56 AM
I'm always hesitant on buying things this early, even when these pictures look so awesome. Couldn't the final product look slightly different to this or is this what we'll be getting? You know how things change sometimes.

P.
07-21-2013, 02:40 AM
Just the lighting.i thought so, too, but parts on the same level don't look black.
it also could be this item's strange paint. for example his face here is awfully painted over the chin holder like it's not detachable.

http://www.mwctoys.com/sdcc2013/images/sdcc2013_sideshow_116.jpg

a-dev
07-21-2013, 06:48 AM
I want the BD version to be limited to four pieces, and only sold to afro-albino lesbian dwarf trapeze artists, during a leap year.

:lol:lol:lol

Frank
07-21-2013, 08:49 AM
I want the BD version to be limited to four pieces, and only sold to afro-albino lesbian dwarf trapeze artists, during a leap year.

I hope they're not into customizing!:thud: :lol

BuGz
07-21-2013, 10:49 AM
i thought so, too, but parts on the same level don't look black.
it also could be this item's strange paint. for example his face here is awfully painted over the chin holder like it's not detachable.

http://www.mwctoys.com/sdcc2013/images/sdcc2013_sideshow_116.jpg

It's the reflection of the face on the chin section. Not paint.


I really like this figure. So glad I PO it:D

If you look closely there is a hue through the paint work.

Bri

Eisselmann
07-22-2013, 03:23 AM
Teaser by Plastic Enemies on FB:
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/22/una4eryv.jpg


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RIDDICK
07-22-2013, 04:16 AM
Hope that PE are just too stupid to see the difference.

Eisselmann
07-22-2013, 04:18 AM
Hope that PE are just too stupid to see the difference.

Help me out, please.
I'm too stupid. ;)
It's Robo2, right!?!

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a-dev
07-22-2013, 04:35 AM
***k sake is it Robocop or Robocop 2? Enough with these mixed messages HT.

P.
07-22-2013, 04:58 AM
by the way his shoulders are up just enough.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/969624_503378609735127_1906572763_n.jpg

http://604now.com/wordpress2012/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/robocopvancouver.jpg

i guess on a toy a whole shoulder/chest section behind the chest armor plate goes up and down:

two positions (and paint already gone off on both shoulders WTF???):

http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_130603/20130603_270ae585e12df6d1ee92SajTXPiDCSkc.jpg

a moving plate (metal color) between metal chest and black shoulder joint:

http://i.discuss.com.hk/d/attachments/day_130603/20130603_4ac9f21d01c3a16daa7bkfxjkFXfuWHu.jpg

so... wanna movie proper wing shoulders - have to raise the arms up.

Nini
07-22-2013, 06:15 AM
It's gotta be robocop 2, am I the only one here who thinks that the station that comes with robocop is lame? From a toy perspective, I just don't see how it is a neat addition.

a-dev
07-22-2013, 06:25 AM
I don't think anything about this figure is lame. However you can buy Robocop without the chair.

P.
07-22-2013, 06:45 AM
It's gotta be robocop 2, am I the only one here who thinks that the station that comes with robocop is lame? From a toy perspective, I just don't see how it is a neat addition.i dunno.
i played robocop on dendy, he used the chair to fix himself.
when i'll put my robocop into the chair, it'll remind me of my childhood. kind of nostalgy. one figure for shooting, one for relaxing, one for fighting the 209.
on the other hand, every made item is a new item, every unmade item is just nothing, and i don't know anybody who collects nothings.

I don't think anything about this figure is lame. well, no face under the helmet in 2013 is absolutely lame.
again, when i was a kid, we dreamt about terminator and robocop toys - and there was always somebody who claimed to have seen or heard of a terminator skeleton with moving fingers or robocop with his helmet going off, revealing the face.
we've got terminators of 15-20 years ago kid's dreams, so where is that damn robocop with removable helmet?

Nini
07-22-2013, 06:46 AM
I don't think anything about this figure is lame. However you can buy Robocop without the chair.

It's been done. :P

I have to say, that as someone who is new to flex pay, I am concerned with the final payment of chairless robocop and ed-209 cause of the majority of the cost comment that I heard about in this thread. I don't want to end up paying too much for both figures in one shot come february 2014.

Nini
07-22-2013, 06:49 AM
i dunno.
i played robocop on dendy, he used the chair to fix himself.
when i'll put my robocop into the chair, it'll remind me of my childhood. kind of nostalgy. one figure for shooting, one for relaxing, one for fighting the 209.
on the other hand, every made item is a new item, every unmade item is just nothing, and i don't know anybody who collects nothings.
well, no face under the helmet in 2013 is absolutely lame.

I am of two minds, in the movie it is a different story, I mean I don't have a problem with the chair he uses in the movie. As for the blue on robocop, I don't recall him looking blue in general in robocop 1. Is it me or did robocop's black neck piece magically disappear in the final act of robocop? I don't remember him taking it off.

a-dev
07-22-2013, 06:53 AM
well, no face under the helmet in 2013 is absolutely lame.
again, when i was a kid, we dreamt about terminator and robocop toys - and there was always somebody who claimed to have seen or heard of a terminator skeleton with moving fingers or robocop with his helmet going off, revealing the face.
we've got terminators of 15-20 years ago kid's dreams, so where is that damn robocop with removable helmet?

Well you're basically looking for a play feature there. Helmetless Robocop in the movies is more than just the silver cranial piece coming off which surely you know yourself. Maybe you could get that to be removeable but it wouldn't be an accurate look because the chin piece and neck stuff would still be there.

I have no problem with them just going with their removeable mouth pieces thing and helmetless Robo being a separate figure that can be wholly accurate.

P.
07-22-2013, 06:56 AM
Well you're basically looking for a play feature there. it's you who says so, not me.
not much more difficult than with T-1000's police helmet. take off the helmet, than take off the head, than take off the chin/neck black cover, like with predator collars, then put the head/neck back.
that damn black neck cover had to be soft & bendable anyway.

Nini
07-22-2013, 06:57 AM
Well you're basically looking for a play feature there. Helmetless Robocop in the movies is more than just the silver cranial piece coming off which surely you know yourself. Maybe you could get that to be removeable but it wouldn't be an accurate look because the chin piece and neck stuff would still be there.

I have no problem with them just going with their removeable mouth pieces thing and helmetless Robo being a separate figure that can be wholly accurate.

About the helmet and mouth piece, I think they could be removed if they were unified. as for the black neck piece, it could be a snap together type of deal or magnetic or something else. As for the neck piece, as far as I am concerned, we don't get to see hiim take it off from what I remember. Ok, I just re-watched the unmasking bit from robocop, the mouth piece is in deed connected to the helmet, and the black neck piece seems to magically disappear after he removes the helmet and mouth piece.

a-dev
07-22-2013, 07:18 AM
All this removeable stuff could lead to proportional inaccuracies for one look or the other though - considering that in the movies the 2 looks were achieved entirely separate from each other much like how the Predator was done. When KPH was wearing the masked suit there wasn't really a Predator face underneath it. If there had been the mask would have stuck out a mile on the front.

I had enough of badly proportioned Robocop with their old figures.

Spanbauer
07-22-2013, 07:29 AM
All this removeable stuff could lead to proportional inaccuracies for one look or the other though - considering that in the movies the 2 looks were achieved entirely separate from each other much like how the Predator was done. When KPH was wearing the masked suit there wasn't really a Predator face underneath it. If there had been the mask would have stuck out a mile on the front.

I had enough of badly proportioned Robocop with their old figures.
Very true. Two separate heads are better than one with removable helmet. Trying to create a single head with removable helmet and neck cover would likely result in an oversized head, poor neck articulation, and we'd lose the interchangeable mouths (which is a feature I love).

One has to look no further than how much better the Predators got once Hot Toys stopped trying to make helmets that fit over the mandibles and instead made the mandible removable. Check out the attached images and one can clearly see the neck with the helmet off wouldn't actually fit under the black rubber neck with the mask on. Movie magic.

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64438&d=1374504027

http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=64439&d=1374504033

Nini
07-22-2013, 08:31 AM
http://www.mwctoys.com/sdcc2013/images/sdcc2013_sideshow_116.jpg

I won't lie, I think that the hot toys robocop toy in this pic looks awful, it looks so damn cheap and unimpressive.

a-dev
07-22-2013, 08:32 AM
Really? I was blown away by that same pic. The pose, the facial likeness, the proportions, the look of the suit...

Spanbauer
07-22-2013, 08:35 AM
I won't lie, I think that the hot toys robocop toy in this pic looks awful, it looks so damn cheap and unimpressive.
I really don't know how you can look at that photo and come to those conclusions. I think he looks superb, and not one thing about him appears "cheap" to me. In terms of doing the source material justice, this to me is hands-down Hot Toys best figure revealed this year. If not for the person in the background behind him and the other toys he's standing alongside, I'd think that was actually Robocop standing there

Nini
07-22-2013, 08:38 AM
I really don't know how you can look at that photo and come to those conclusions. I think he looks superb, and not one thing about him appears "cheap" to me. In terms of doing the source material justice, this to me is hands-down Hot Toys best figure revealed this year.

In the other pics, I think it looks great. In this one, I don't really know what it is that makes it look god awful in my mind.

RIDDICK
07-22-2013, 09:39 AM
I won't lie...

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/lol/grand/arnold_lol_gif.gif

Dollmanron
07-22-2013, 09:43 AM
http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/lol/grand/arnold_lol_gif.gif

I would love to have a 1/6 scale shirt to fit the muscle body like that. I'd put it on my broke around Arnold figure.

Snake Plissken
07-22-2013, 09:47 AM
I really don't know how you can look at that photo and come to those conclusions. I think he looks superb, and not one thing about him appears "cheap" to me. In terms of doing the source material justice, this to me is hands-down Hot Toys best figure revealed this year. If not for the person in the background behind him and the other toys he's standing alongside, I'd think that was actually Robocop standing there

:exactly::goodpost:

I'd say it's the closest they've ever gotten to source material.

Eisselmann
07-22-2013, 11:10 AM
Really? I was blown away by that same pic. The pose, the facial likeness, the proportions, the look of the suit...

Amen brother!


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Blackout
07-22-2013, 11:53 AM
Saw it in person. I thought it looked great. However, a little different from the promo pics. Instead of being blue steel with those purplish bits, it was silver with very subtle purplish bits.

Wanderer
07-22-2013, 11:57 AM
I won't lie, I think that the hot toys robocop toy in this pic looks awful, it looks so damn cheap and unimpressive.

I can only put this post down to sh it in his/her eyes, trolling or maybe a degree of retardation fom the poster? Lame :cuckoo:

CAIN MKII
07-22-2013, 12:01 PM
Really? I was blown away by that same pic. The pose, the facial likeness, the proportions, the look of the suit...

+1. This is Robocop.

Nini
07-22-2013, 12:27 PM
I can only put this post down to sh it in his/her eyes, trolling or maybe a degree of retardation fom the poster? Lame :cuckoo:

**** you. Excuse me for not being a blind fan.

Positron
07-22-2013, 12:53 PM
**** you. Excuse me for not being a blind fan.

Someone get this troll outta here.

ohhthegore
07-22-2013, 01:06 PM
never mind

P.
07-22-2013, 01:53 PM
I won't lie, I think that the hot toys robocop toy in this pic looks awful, it looks so damn cheap and unimpressive.ED looks even worse here - like it is a clay statue painted with gouache.
those are either first-mold statues or a really bad photo, that is all )


Trying to create a single head with removable helmet and neck cover would likely result in an oversized head, poor neck articulation, and we'd lose the interchangeable mouths (which is a feature I love).yeah that's how we don't trust HT engineers.
i disagree only with the last statement about impossible to make interchangeable mouths with a removable helmet:

http://www.milesteves.com/gallery/d/381-6/Robo-Mirror-72.jpg

http://www.craveonline.com/images/stories/2011/Film/Robocop%203%20Recasting.jpg

http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab192/resin1/IMG_4931.jpg

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101110014529/robocop/images/1/15/Robocop_ser.jpg

interchangeable whole faces right here )

Nini
07-22-2013, 02:01 PM
Someone get this troll outta here.

I'm not a troll. If trolling mean's saying negative stuff about the robocop figure that hot toys made then I am not the only one who is trolling in this thread, if I didn't say negative stuff about it you wouldn't be acting like a butt hurt robocop hot toys fan in the first place.

Nini
07-22-2013, 02:04 PM
http://files.sharenator.com/YG6vv_GIF_Collection_of_someone_eating_popcorn-s320x240-181195-580.gif

What is this a pic of? I can't see it because it's broken on my end.

P.
07-22-2013, 02:10 PM
I'm not a troll. If trolling mean's saying negative stuff about the robocop figure that hot toys made then I am not the only one who is trolling, if I didn't say negative stuff about it you wouldn't be acting like a butt hurt robocop hot toys fan in the first place.don't.
they are many, they'll destroy you with numbers and feel good about it.

Nini
07-22-2013, 02:14 PM
don't.
they are many, they'll destroy you with numbers and feel good about it.

It is silly I tell ya, this thread clearly isn't limited to positive things being said about the robocop figure. It's even in the damn title of the ******* thread. The proof that is.