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mikericm
08-22-2012, 09:44 PM
Click the pic! Buy now!

Hot Toys X-MEN - Wolverine - 1/6 scale figure
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Hot Toys is proud to present the Wolverine Limited Edition Collectible Figurine from the superhero blockbuster X-Men: The Last Stand. The movie-accurate collectible is specially crafted based on the image of Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in the movie, highlighting the newly developed head sculpt, highly detailed X-Men suit, weapon and movie-accurate figure stand.

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Hot Toy - MMS187 - X-Men: The Last Stand: 1/6th scale Wolverine Limited Edition Collectible Figurine Specification


The 1/6th scale Wolverine Limited Edition Collectible Figurine specially features:

- Authentic and detailed fully realized likeness of Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in the X-Men: The Last Stand movie

- Approximately 30 cm tall
- Muscular body with over 30 points of articulations
- Movie-accurate facial expression featuring his angered gesture with detailed wrinkles and skin texture
- Detailed hair sculpture and beard
- Three (3) pairs of interchangeable gloved palms including:
- One (1) pair of fists with blades
- One (1) pair of fists
- One (1) pair of relaxed palms
- Each piece of head sculpt is specially hand-painted

Costume:

- One (1) set of X-Men suit including one (1) leather-like black jacket and one (1) pair of leather-like black pants
- One (1) pair of black boots

Accessories:

- Figure stand imitating the movie scene with transparent pillar
- Figure stand with Wolverine nameplate and the movie logo

Artists:

- Head Sculpted by Im Jung Hyuk
- Head Painted by JC. Hong
- Head Art Directed by Kojun


**Prototype shown, final product may be slightly different

**Battery not included for figure stand, 3A batteries are required

Release date: Q1, 2013


Marvel, X3, and all related character names and the distinctive likenesses thereof are trademarks of Marvel Characters, Inc., and are used with permission. Copyright © 2012 Marvel Characters, Inc. All rights reserved. www.marvel.com

X3 Motion Picture and Images from Motion Picture © 2012 Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation. All rights reserved.

© 2012 Hot Toys Limited. All Rights Reserved.

mikericm
08-22-2012, 09:44 PM
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rdc2
08-22-2012, 09:45 PM
How come everytime iam looking at this HS...I see Jack Nicholson grin...

EXOTICLEX
08-22-2012, 09:48 PM
Head sculpt sucks. 80% Hugh Jackman IMO.

a-dev
08-22-2012, 09:48 PM
Well, its a technically very good sculpt but once again I see no real likeness to Jackman. This is one instance where I am totally content with my older figure.

Centrocal
08-22-2012, 09:49 PM
Hot Toy - MMS187 - X-Men: The Last Stand: 1/6th scale Wolverine Limited Edition Collectible Figurine Specification


The 1/6th scale Wolverine Limited Edition Collectible Figurine specially features:

- Authentic and detailed fully realized likeness of Hugh Jackman as Wolverine in the X-Men: The Last Stand movie

- Approximately 30 cm tall
- Muscular body with over 30 points of articulations
- Movie-accurate facial expression featuring his angered gesture with detailed wrinkles and skin texture
- Detailed hair sculpture and beard
- Three (3) pairs of interchangeable gloved palms including:
- One (1) pair of fists with blades
- One (1) pair of fists
- One (1) pair of relaxed palms
- Each piece of head sculpt is specially hand-painted

Costume:

- One (1) set of X-Men suit including one (1) leather-like black jacket and one (1) pair of leather-like black pants
- One (1) pair of black boots

Accessories:

- Figure stand imitating the movie scene with transparent pillar
- Figure stand with Wolverine nameplate and the movie logo

Artists:

- Head Sculpted by Im Jung Hyuk
- Head Painted by JC. Hong
- Head Art Directed by Kojun


**Prototype shown, final product may be slightly different

**Battery not included for figure stand, 3A batteries are required

Release date: Q1, 2013


Marvel, X3, and all related character names and the distinctive likenesses thereof are trademarks of Marvel Characters, Inc., and are used with permission. Copyright © 2012 Marvel Characters, Inc. All rights reserved. www.marvel.com

X3 Motion Picture and Images from Motion Picture © 2012 Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation. All rights reserved.

© 2012 Hot Toys Limited. All Rights Reserved.

rdc2
08-22-2012, 09:51 PM
I dont think Hugh will approve this...

Centrocal
08-22-2012, 09:52 PM
He approved the first one :lol

EXOTICLEX
08-22-2012, 09:53 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111742/

elvis1976
08-22-2012, 09:55 PM
In some pics the head looks really small.
Nice head but again not one bit of Jackman and that comedian grin...

Mr. EcKo
08-22-2012, 09:55 PM
MEH...... :pfft:

hunnipot85
08-22-2012, 09:56 PM
The Sentinel base isn't even accurate with the costume cause Wolverine was wearing civilian clothing in the danger room.

http://i.imgur.com/sHK6i.png

bandito
08-22-2012, 09:58 PM
^
Wolverine: 1/6 scale..
Sentinel base: approx. 1/12 scale


The Sentinel base isn't even accurate with the costume cause Wolverine was wearing civilian clothing in the danger room.

:lol
Anything can be created in the danger room... Not-quite Jackman HS, Alternate costume, half size sentinel (with half the head buried/sliced off)...

francsicoliger
08-22-2012, 09:59 PM
For me,if it seems and the expression on his face like or dislike.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/2852/lobito3.jpg

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Ghouligan
08-22-2012, 10:01 PM
Well I'm never the guy to pick apart & criticise a new figure but I was certainly expecting a lot more from this, is Hugh Jackman a hard likeness to capture or something? Waaaay off.

Actually prefer the "origins" figure. This sculpt plus the fact that the X men movie costumes were never anything to write home about anyway makes this an easy pass for me.

Biojex
08-22-2012, 10:04 PM
Sculpt looks great. Overall package is underwhelming.

bandito
08-22-2012, 10:06 PM
SRP HKD1,380

POP HKD1,330

so, through SSC likely to be at least USD 200

Darth Con
08-22-2012, 10:08 PM
i look at it and kind of see wolverine.
struggling to see HJ though.
it seems 'ok' but it will come down to the price for me.
This figure is not worth more than $179.99 'realistically' in my eye considering what it comes with and the x men suit was never very appealing.
Might just try and pick up the HS to put on my origins wolvie.

mikericm
08-22-2012, 10:09 PM
The Sentinel base isn't even accurate with the costume cause Wolverine was wearing civilian clothing in the danger room.

http://i.imgur.com/sHK6i.png

The plain black stands are even less movie accurate. I like the stand and could care less that ir doesn't match an exact scene.

EVILFACE
08-22-2012, 10:12 PM
Likeness isn't there but it is a good looking figure.

Good looking figure > 100% likness sculpt

mikericm
08-22-2012, 10:16 PM
Likeness isn't there but it is a good looking figure.

Good looking figure > 100% likness sculpt

:goodpost::goodpost::goodpost:
:clap:clap:clap
:exactly::exactly::exactly:

FLOSI
08-22-2012, 10:18 PM
Looks ridiculous. The head is small, thighs look as if they're going to burst through the pants, and he somehow has bell bottom shirt sleeves.... Just not digging it at all.

FLOSI
08-22-2012, 10:19 PM
And I stayed away from the obvious likeness issues.

OSCORP
08-22-2012, 10:22 PM
Looks great (and i'm sure it'll get better)

/bought

Suit looks almost exactly like the medi version (which is a good thing)

gunm
08-22-2012, 10:30 PM
I see Wolvie, but not so much Hugh Jackman. I want to like it, but the costumes in the Last Stand weren't very good, IMO. I might've gotten this for $150 (or in this quarter I guess that would really be $170), but unfortunately, it sounds like this might be well over $200, which would make it a pass for me. We'll see.

batfan08
08-22-2012, 10:57 PM
I like it. I'd never buy it, but it's a nice change of pace from The Avengers/TDKR monotony (Yep, I said it).

SideshoMel
08-22-2012, 10:59 PM
I like it. I'd never buy it, but it's a nice change of pace from The Avengers/TDKR monotony (Yep, I said it).

:exactly:

But after all this waiting, I am certainly disappointed. Not the Kojun project I had hoped for. He didn't even work on this so there may be a chance for another Wolverine. Maybe based on the upcoming movie. I truly hope for a better likeness if there is a next time. For this one, an absolute pass.

Ninjaknight
08-22-2012, 11:04 PM
Why does everyone hate the costume?

I think that its the best selling point of the figure, a movie accurate suit.

Plus spandex would have really sucked in the movie :lol

ronin-5
08-22-2012, 11:04 PM
This is cool. Always wanted HT to tackle the X-Men in their outfits.

The Skull
08-22-2012, 11:13 PM
I like the figure but I will admit its a little underwhelming, I will buy cause I'm a wolverine fan. It needs alittle more to make it great like an extra head, FU claw hand, and cigar.

playboy409
08-22-2012, 11:14 PM
not impressed at all. I'm way happier with my Logan figure.

lerath666
08-22-2012, 11:16 PM
.. looks less like a snarl.. and more like a grin. aside from that, i like it.
Wish he came with a close-mouthed "serious" face as well as this one, but meh, i'll live :D

Andymp
08-22-2012, 11:19 PM
Don't see Hugh in that sculpt at all!:(

Darthgothikus
08-22-2012, 11:27 PM
I like the figure but I will admit its a little underwhelming, I will buy cause I'm a wolverine fan. It needs alittle more to make it great like an extra head, FU claw hand, and cigar.

Exactly what I was thinking.

I was keeping half an eye on this thinking I might replace the "fragile doll" of a Medi I have on display....

but, as much as I like the base, I'd swap that for a cigar chewing 2nd head, 2nd set clothes, (Jeans, wifebeater, jacket) & the three sets of hands gloveless (as well as the gloved ones of course)

Now that would be a buy. This, not so.

Centrocal
08-22-2012, 11:27 PM
A half head... or just the face... I suppose it's smaller than shown in the movie...

not exactly depicting movie accuracy .... Like the Black Spidey with Sandman....
http://static.lowyat.net/uploads/attach-92/post-5392-1345630618.jpg

The sentinel base is definitely not 1/6 scale

rdc2
08-22-2012, 11:35 PM
Well basically it was based on the movie with a real person portraying the role as Wolverine, so its basic that this figure should look like or resemble the person who play the role...as simple as that!

cokebabies
08-22-2012, 11:42 PM
I blocked most of the third movie out of my brain, but did his pants in the movie really flare out that much at the bottom? Looks ridiculous.

Kuat of Kuat
08-22-2012, 11:55 PM
I don't care at all for the uniform or the stand.

So I'll probably just buy a head to put on my DX05 Indy.

Kills two birds with one stone!

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Solarsailor
08-22-2012, 11:55 PM
Pretty much agree with the general feeling. This is a figure we must get as it is cool but it's missed the boat.

Let me spend the extra $40 and give me the alternate cigar sculpt and battle damaged goodies. I don't even mind this HS because it's Wolverine, it doesn't need to be Jackman.

There's just not enough here to get my teeth into. I feel like I'm starving and have been thrown a cracker, I know it's going to taste good but..... damn.

rdc2
08-23-2012, 12:04 AM
Wolverine is Jackman.....not Jack Nicholson

scriggly
08-23-2012, 12:04 AM
I would have bought this if it had an extra head sculpt that looked a bit better, but as is its a pass.

tommyh84
08-23-2012, 12:07 AM
Only disappointment for me with this is the lack of standard stand, I'm not a fan of most of the diorama bases and I dont want that Sentinel base anywhere near my display!!

EDIT:


Accessories:

- Figure stand imitating the movie scene with transparent pillar
- Figure stand with Wolverine nameplate and the movie logo

Ignore me only just seen the specs :lol

Gipetto0812
08-23-2012, 12:23 AM
really hoped it was going to come with a neutral headsculpt. I'm still going to buy though as I do like the figure. not looking forward to the price

tommyh84
08-23-2012, 12:24 AM
Price will be interesting, on one hand given the lack of extras the price should be the same (or less) as Nick Fury and Hawkeye, given it's Wolverine though wouldn't surprise me if they upped the price to over $200

Wanderer
08-23-2012, 12:44 AM
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Looks like he's taking a s hit

Darthgothikus
08-23-2012, 12:45 AM
Yeah, but it's an angry s hit.

Walker
08-23-2012, 01:26 AM
This is a pass for me, I actually prefer the Origins Wolverine figure better.

rdc2
08-23-2012, 01:31 AM
Looks like he's taking a s hit

All in the family....

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RIDDICK
08-23-2012, 01:38 AM
Waited so long for such a figure and need to pass bcuz it looks SRSLY BAD.

Deckard
08-23-2012, 02:20 AM
Sculpt is completely awful. Wolverine in a leather outfit is super gay and has always looked dumb and out of character. The Sentinel design is a POS compared to the source material.

"The Wolverine" movie figure is going to be right around the corner, this is an easy pass and maybe their worst since Indy.

Rorywan
08-23-2012, 03:09 AM
Horrible.

Horrible.

Centrocal
08-23-2012, 03:36 AM
Could we maybe get a screen grab of Wolverine from the film, to compare ? :dunno

Darkseed
08-23-2012, 03:39 AM
I dig everything about the figure except 1Q 2013 release date. That actually means 2 or 3 Q :impatient:

This and Hulk both will make a nice start to 2013

Grumpy Bear
08-23-2012, 04:29 AM
Could we maybe get a screen grab of Wolverine from the film, to compare ? :dunno

Thats the point!

If you compare HT Wolverine with the new Last Stand Wolverine, he sucks. He sucks more with this stupid HT pictures. Every Ani-Com 2012 pic looks better.

But, if you compare Wolverine with the Movie Last Stand vs HT Last Stand, it looks great.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb58378/x-men/images/c/c6/Wolverine.jpg
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EVILFACE
08-23-2012, 04:33 AM
This is a pass for me, I actually prefer the Origins Wolverine figure better.

While I think the suit looks fine, I also prefer Wolverine in street clothes.

Magnuz
08-23-2012, 04:49 AM
Since i never got origins i feel i'll end up getting this one, and i do like the x2 suit alot, the grimace is not something i prefer, it'd be better if it was an alternate head and there was a calm version with it.

Here's a direct comparison of his face and the headsculpt:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/magx2/htwolvcompare.jpg

I really feel this is more an X2 wolverine, the broad shoulders and wide chest is more like he looked in X2 than X3, where he kinda just looked frumpy when he was in uniform.

Centrocal
08-23-2012, 05:00 AM
^^ post that on their fb page :clap The eyebrows are all wrong, he looks happy instead of angry. Also cheek line are totally off. I like this expression, but the sculpt just doesn't match

Grumpy Bear
08-23-2012, 05:02 AM
But, if you compare Wolverine with the Movie Last Stand vs HT Last Stand, it looks great.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb58378/x-men/images/c/c6/Wolverine.jpg
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/386941_354779471263259_647503391_n.jpg

A few pics from me. I think from the movie to the figure, great job. Not perfect, but really good.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/292323_438356942881243_1416503922_n.jpg

krec9
08-23-2012, 05:16 AM
Saw this just now why make figures to a crap movie figure looks awful .

MCkilla
08-23-2012, 05:21 AM
Awesome Wolverine sculpt, terrible jackman likeness. Almost wish they would've just put'em in some yellow and blue spandex.

Rzeznikk
08-23-2012, 05:28 AM
PASS.

Waiting for "The Wolverine" version.

DCTheDarkKnight
08-23-2012, 05:32 AM
I like the figure I just wish it had a couple extra accessories with him.

EVILFACE
08-23-2012, 05:35 AM
What accessories does Wolverine need besides claws?

snoop101
08-23-2012, 05:36 AM
What accessories does Wolverine need besides claws?

A cigar....

DCTheDarkKnight
08-23-2012, 05:41 AM
Leather jacket

robbiethepainter
08-23-2012, 05:42 AM
The head sculpt is really very well executed. Even though it doesn't really capture Jackman, it still is a very good sculpt. I will say it does look a touch small. And even though I'm not a big fan of the uniform, it looks to be extremely well tailored. There is a boat load of detail and to get it all to lay flat I'm sure was tricky. Hats off to the tailor. The responses have been the same as the first Wolverine and now people are paying top dollar for it. I'm sure when the dust settles and we see in hand pics people will change their tunes and start trying to track one down. All in all, looks like another very well crafted figure from HT.

Science Friction
08-23-2012, 05:55 AM
Overall I'm satisfied. I'm not sure if I'll get it yet or not, or just get the head. I think the base is far too small, and the accessories are too light. Hmmm..

EXOTICLEX
08-23-2012, 05:56 AM
beware of language of but a good reference for this figure....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3lV0eHktvA

EXOTICLEX
08-23-2012, 06:05 AM
Looks like he's taking a s hit

oh and.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM1BCJmEISc

The Side of the Show
08-23-2012, 06:16 AM
He's kind of Expensive here in my place, HT will probably release other character as well on the X-man Last Stand License

UltraMarknus
08-23-2012, 06:35 AM
...and he'll still cost $200.

I think HT overdid the accessories with some figures and I thought if they cut down on accessories, they can aviod price hikes. But they are cutting down but raising prices. Maybe the cost of plastic has skyrocketed?

In any case, this figure looks nice and is great for Wolvie fans. But it screams "Quick cash grab before the Wolverine" and "Shelf Warmer" to me.

Rzeznikk
08-23-2012, 06:52 AM
...and he'll still cost $200.

I think HT overdid the accessories with some figures and I thought if they cut down on accessories, they can aviod price hikes. But they are cutting down but raising prices. Maybe the cost of plastic has skyrocketed?

In any case, this figure looks nice and is great for Wolvie fans. But it screams "Quick cash grab before the Wolverine" and "Shelf Warmer" to me.

That indeed what it is. But I dont think he'll be a shelf warmer. The first Wolverine sold out quick and with the secondary price being what it is for the MMS103, and alot of people wanting a Wolverine for their collection, this guy will go fast as well.

But Im still waiting for the Wolverine version.

mikericm
08-23-2012, 07:03 AM
A few pics from me. I think from the movie to the figure, great job. Not perfect, but really good.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/292323_438356942881243_1416503922_n.jpg

I think these pics are a great comparison, showing the HS does actully resemble Jackman more than I thought. Still far from perfect, but still a quality release.

I think what most don't like about the HS is the expression. It seems like most don't care for many of the recent HS with expressions on their faces. I guess it makes it harder to see the likeness if a specific expression is used.:dunno

steven.giunta
08-23-2012, 07:16 AM
Some one should edit this thread,where it says authentic and detailed fully likeness of hugh jackman as wolverine it should say authentic and detailed fully likeness of a head that looks nothing like hugh jackman as wolverine!hot toys should give up on the expressions that show teeth,they fail everytime.the comedian was just as bad

the whale
08-23-2012, 07:28 AM
I wouldnt say that this figure looks nothing like jackman,But its pretty damn close,and again its just a prototype...the likeness is close enough to make improvements.

Centrocal
08-23-2012, 07:33 AM
:exactly: The first Wolverine figure had several re-sculpts before final product

hunnipot85
08-23-2012, 07:33 AM
Saw this just now why make figures to a crap movie figure looks awful .

I hope you are not one of the few asking for more Sucker Punch or Resident Evil movie figures.

the whale
08-23-2012, 07:36 AM
He's kind of Expensive here in my place, HT will probably release other character as well on the X-man Last Stand License

I hope so...A Cyclops,Xavior,Colossus,Storm...Maby even Beast (AKA Fraisier from Cheers) :lecture

Spawn-man
08-23-2012, 07:54 AM
hot toys should give up on the expressions that show teeth,they fail everytime.the comedian was just as bad

All except the Joker 2.0 laughing sculpt.:lecture

Mad Old Lu
08-23-2012, 08:18 AM
Pretty lackluster release, but I'll get him anyway. I missed out on the Origins (didn't like that sculpt either, and didn't like his less conventional hair do), so the lack of a Wolverine is a big hole in my collection. Hopefully the new Wolverine movie will mean a new street clothes release.

But what I would really love is an X-2 street clothes, post mansion attack version with the blue jacket, t-shirt and jeans.

meanstreak
08-23-2012, 08:23 AM
I'll wait for the Wolverine version as well. Never was a big fan of the leather X uniform anyway.

badrat
08-23-2012, 08:23 AM
I'm certain this figure will grow on me just like most HT figures eventually do. Not sure if I should bite or wait, like most of you guys, for Wolvie 2.

Darkseed
08-23-2012, 08:28 AM
I think these pics are a great comparison, showing the HS does actully resemble Jackman more than I thought. Still far from perfect, but still a quality release.

I think what most don't like about the HS is the expression. It seems like most don't care for many of the recent HS with expressions on their faces. I guess it makes it harder to see the likeness if a specific expression is used.:dunno

:goodpost: while not 100% Jackman, I can see him in the sculpt. I am verify happy with this release.

Interesting as collectors we complained about neutral sculpts. HT began giving us expressions yet we still are not happy. Similar to the complaining about going deep into a film HT goes way overboard for Avengers yet we still complain. What a bunch we are.....

Anyway, bought without hesitation. 1Q 2013 with Hulk and Wolverine cannot come fast enough.

RIDDICK
08-23-2012, 08:30 AM
I'm not against sculpts with expression but when it's so extreme and there's only one head...
No display options with hi-end action figure is the dealbreaker #1 for me.

lerath666
08-23-2012, 09:43 AM
I'm not against sculpts with expression but when it's so extreme and there's only one head...
No display options with hi-end action figure is the dealbreaker #1 for me.

This.

Expression heads are good, but they can be very limiting with posing.

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 09:51 AM
If this isn't over $200 i'll be getting him

steven.giunta
08-23-2012, 09:51 AM
All except the Joker 2.0 laughing sculpt.:lecture

Imo that's off too.when you open your mouth your chin moves down and in,to me it looks like they just move it down.look at the difference between adams and hot toys,adams has no bottom teeth showing,the way I believe it should be.

hunnipot85
08-23-2012, 10:10 AM
I think he looks great in these two pics
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/394418_354779541263252_302431745_n.jpg
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/305247_354779561263250_373446531_n.jpg

Mad Old Lu
08-23-2012, 10:28 AM
I agree. Looks pretty good in those shots. And overall I think he looks great. I just think for the price we're anticipating (over $200) he could come with more goodies like maybe open hand claws, cigar with hand, and maybe another outfit.

DarthTrafford
08-23-2012, 10:33 AM
He's going up for sale later today on the Sideshow site.
Keep an eye out!

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 11:03 AM
I agree. Looks pretty good in those shots. And overall I think he looks great. I just think for the price we're anticipating (over $200) he could come with more goodies like maybe open hand claws, cigar with hand, and maybe another outfit.

Seems to be the trend lately :(

DFanatic
08-23-2012, 12:00 PM
They better not pull a "Mark I 2.0" with this and not include the black stand.

"Oh, hy guys we so solly! No brack stand wit dis figur. You get lobot instead" - Hot Toys official spoke person.

mikericm
08-23-2012, 12:07 PM
They better not pull a "Mark I 2.0" with this and not include the black stand.

"Oh, hy guys we so solly! No brack stand wit dis figur. You get lobot instead" - Hot Toys official spoke person.

Can't you get a black stand from ebay for less than $5?

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 12:08 PM
Can't you get a black stand from ebay for less than $5?

Not with the "Wolverine" | "X-Men The Last Stand" nameplate.

DFanatic
08-23-2012, 12:08 PM
Can't you get a black stand from ebay for less than $5?

Yeah, but I want the name and logo on it, you know? I don't have mad custom skills to make my own.

mikericm
08-23-2012, 12:10 PM
There are better things to freak out about.


Its up for pre order

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=901949&utm_source=bronto&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Image+-+Pre-Order+the+Hot+Toys%27+Wolverine+Sixth+Scale+Figure %21&utm_content=Image+-+Pre-Order+the+Hot+Toys%27+Wolverine+Sixth+Scale+Figure %21&utm_campaign=TM_082312_HTWolverine_low

You won't like the price.

Jaymole
08-23-2012, 12:11 PM
$235!!!!

Are they kidding with that price!!!!

Pajji
08-23-2012, 12:11 PM
Just saw this on SS for $234.99....man, these prices are getting steep.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=901949&ref=learnmore_901949

DFanatic
08-23-2012, 12:13 PM
HOLY ____________________________ ! I need a new hobby.... maybe I should start collecting dollar bills.

riky
08-23-2012, 12:14 PM
But..but.......molds are expensive
:)

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 12:14 PM
$235!!!!

Are they kidding with that price!!!!

:exactly:

I'm out for now

Science Friction
08-23-2012, 12:15 PM
:( Well.. at least he has free shipping. This is getting out of hand though.

Jaymole
08-23-2012, 12:15 PM
I'm sure they were thinking:

"Hey it's Wolverine...let's jack the price up because everyone wants Wolverine and is going to buy it regardless of what outrageous price we charge"

Doomsday
08-23-2012, 12:16 PM
235? really? really?

boy I feel bad for the fans of Wolverine and X Men, that price is a joke, now I almost feel guilty not getting Rescue Cap

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 12:16 PM
But..but.......molds are expensive
:)

:lol :lol :lol

Don't forget the other excuses people make for HT

2. Likeness Fees
3. License Fees
4. Economy

riky
08-23-2012, 12:20 PM
:lol :lol :lol

Don't forget the other excuses people make for HT

2. Likeness Fees
3. License Fees
4. Economy

Don't forget about the ground up unicorn horn and supermodel blood they mix in with their plastic. Those things aren't cheap!!

minivader
08-23-2012, 12:22 PM
$235?! Damn HT, are you sure you are making any profit on this? Why not charge it $300 and make you break even? $235, LOL.

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 12:25 PM
They should give the option of it without that big money eating base.

RIDDICK
08-23-2012, 12:27 PM
I'd buy it for >$200 but only with two HS and w/o this retarded base.
Still pass.


:( Well.. at least he has free shipping.
And what? Shipp inside US is $16-17
BBTS has him for $215 so PO from SSC is not a $-saving :lol

DFanatic
08-23-2012, 12:27 PM
:lol :lol :lol

Don't forget the other excuses people make for HT

2. Likeness Fees
3. License Fees
4. Economy

I think it's more of a case of the " They think I'm a damn fool" Fee. Here I was, talking about getting this solely for the head sculpt. I'm out dudes, can't do this anymore. Next year, these figures (regular release, bare bones) will cost $250+ . I will get some Batman and Avengers, a couple more Iron Man stuff and I'm out. Will only be back for Back to the Future and that's it.

Enthus
08-23-2012, 12:34 PM
Is it bad that I actually started to laugh when I saw the price?

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 12:36 PM
For a mere $65 more you could get a TWO figure DX bundle also with a big base.

WTF are they thinking.

I'm dreading the cost of Xavier now and the prospect of more from XMFC, as many interested will skip Xavier due to the cost and HT themselved will flop the line before it gets started :mad:

moose
08-23-2012, 12:43 PM
$ 235 really not with that face I can't see the likness at all

ali032373
08-23-2012, 12:44 PM
Supply and demand, our simplest economic concept. They charge $235 because that's likley what the market will support. But left out of that very simole equation are a lot of us (probably on the younger side) who simply can't afford to stay collecting on the "Mercedes Benz" side of 1/6th.

highlander1
08-23-2012, 12:45 PM
I ordered need a wolverine to face hulk price sucks no reason then greed and most popular x men character. I like the creative base ,but should include black stand like said and more claws and xtra hs but sorry love wolverine must have...

DFanatic
08-23-2012, 12:46 PM
I'm dreading the cost of Xavier now and the prospect of more from XMFC, as many interested will skip Xavier due to the cost and HT themselved will flop the line before it gets started :mad:

Exactly. They got price that character just right otherwise they will think that the reason the figure isn't selling well is because no one is interested in the line.

tommyh84
08-23-2012, 12:46 PM
Is it bad that I actually started to laugh when I saw the price?

I did the same :lol

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 12:47 PM
Apparently its $215 on BBTS. Why the hell is sideshow's $20 more?

IrishJedi
08-23-2012, 12:47 PM
I'm not joking... my jaw literally dropped open when I saw that price.

Hot Toys and Sideshow will soon kill this hobby if they don't reign this skyrocketing price crap soon.

HUUUUUUGE pass on this figure at that price.

Jaymole
08-23-2012, 12:49 PM
HT certainly knows how to kick off the people who were sitting on the fence.

ali032373
08-23-2012, 12:50 PM
Probably be $215 at other outlets.

Didnt see the above post.

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 12:52 PM
Exactly. They got price that character just right otherwise they will think that the reason the figure isn't selling well is because no one is interested in the line.

:exactly: :(

Rzeznikk
08-23-2012, 12:53 PM
I'm not joking... my jaw literally dropped open when I saw that price.

Hot Toys and Sideshow will soon kill this hobby if they don't reign this skyrocketing price crap soon.

HUUUUUUGE pass on this figure at that price.

Does SS and HT even know or even care? :lol

IrishJedi
08-23-2012, 12:55 PM
HT certainly knows how to kick off the people who were sitting on the fence.

Both Hot Toys and Sideshow are responsible for the current prices of these figures. HT has been jacking up their base prices, but Sideshow also insists on their own profit margins (which are obviously substantial since their own authorized dealers sell these things cheaper than they do). People in Honk Kong pay about $30-60 USD less per figure than we do. As the NA distributor Sideshow gets to set the prices here.

HPGR_Thrawn
08-23-2012, 12:55 PM
Hahaa, silly Hot Toys and their prices.

I'll pass, thanks.

IrishJedi
08-23-2012, 12:56 PM
Does SS and HT even know or even care? :lol

They should care. It'd be dumb to kill the golden goose out of pure greed.

tommyh84
08-23-2012, 12:58 PM
The good thing for us UK collectors is if we wait for our UK dealers to get him in (which is what 8 weeks or so after he hits the US) I bet we get him for 160 like all the other recent 'standard' releases

IrishJedi
08-23-2012, 01:01 PM
The good thing for us UK collectors is if we wait for our UK dealers to get him in (which is what 8 weeks or so after he hits the US) I bet we get him for 160 like all the other recent 'standard' releases

Yeah, that's because you don't have Sideshow adding to the price as the only official distributor like we do. :(

greygoose
08-23-2012, 01:05 PM
I'm not joking... my jaw literally dropped open when I saw that price.

Hot Toys and Sideshow will soon kill this hobby if they don't reign this skyrocketing price crap soon.

HUUUUUUGE pass on this figure at that price.

In terms of buying several figures each year they've pretty much killed it for me. I guess collectors will start to become alot more selective when choosing what character(s) they buy.

lerath666
08-23-2012, 01:09 PM
who am I kidding. free shipping makes it around 215. still WAY too much money, but still... bought.. Sideshow should be sending me a free tube of lube.

lerath666
08-23-2012, 01:10 PM
In terms of buying several figures each year they've pretty much killed it for me. I guess collectors will start to become alot more selective when choosing what character(s) they buy.

I did a LONG while ago. Most Marvel makes it in the cut. Love my comics too much.

Star wars i'll cherry-pick.

Sideshow DC Figures I'll cherry pick as well.

Same with Gi joe.

darkknight
08-23-2012, 01:10 PM
:lol pass
Happy with my Origins Wolverine

galmando
08-23-2012, 01:12 PM
who am I kidding. free shipping makes it around 215. still WAY too much money, but still... bought.. Sideshow should be sending me a free tube of lube.

At least you can save money by buying pants, why wear then at all if they're just gonna be around your ankles?

Zing!! C'mon! That was a little funny! Yeah?

hunnipot85
08-23-2012, 01:12 PM
Pass, again Sideshow/Hot Toys price a figure ridiculously.

Waiting for Henry Cavill Superman and that's it.
(for that I will pay anything) :lol

RIDDICK
08-23-2012, 01:14 PM
In terms of buying several figures each year they've pretty much killed it for me. I guess collectors will start to become alot more selective when choosing what character(s) they buy.

And that's actually a good thing. May also can be more accuracy demanding :lol

greygoose
08-23-2012, 01:17 PM
And that's actually a good thing. May also can be more accuracy demanding :lol

Despite the higher prices Sideshow and Hot Toys must still be hitting their sales targets. I'm guessing most of the buyers of these figures will still buy regardless of the price increases anyway.

DFanatic
08-23-2012, 01:21 PM
Next release announced: Agent Coulson -$259.99

Capt.Yesterday
08-23-2012, 01:21 PM
$215 for that piece of crap! Hell no!!!

What happen to you Hot Toys you use to be cool?

jimmie_dimmick
08-23-2012, 01:22 PM
Holy SH|T!! $235!?!? Is HT high????

Glad I wasn't even on the fence with this one after I saw the specs.

greygoose
08-23-2012, 01:22 PM
Next release announced: Agent Coulson -$259.99

Well, if his reveal/pre-order is still several months away you may be right.:pow

EVILFACE
08-23-2012, 01:23 PM
:rotfl :lol :lol :lol :lol $235 :lol :lol :lol :lol :rotfl

Rzeznikk
08-23-2012, 01:24 PM
:rotfl :lol :lol :lol :lol $235 :lol :lol :lol :lol :rotfl

I laughed too. Glad Its one I dont want. But at the same time I dread he price on the next one. These price hikes are getting out of hand. I cant imagine manufacturing costs go up every other month over there....

CaliDragon
08-23-2012, 01:25 PM
I was on the fence about getting this figure. It is Wolverine, however he is the 1st Hot Toys Xmen figure.... meaning that if u get one, you have to get the rest. After seeing the price (even with the free shipping), i rather wait for more figures to come out and make my judgement there. Hopefully there will be a Christmas Sale or buy a Magneto and get a free Wolverine package in the future :)

For now..... Pass.

OSCORP
08-23-2012, 01:26 PM
I think it's just SS doing the hiking. The newer medicom figures overseas are like 220$ yet they got em for 299$

WTH?

kryptonite1970
08-23-2012, 01:28 PM
I was on the fence if I should jump on this until I saw the freakin' price...horrible!!!

gunm
08-23-2012, 01:29 PM
Whoa! $235 is...is...uh....nope, sorry. The end of my HT collecting is apparently here and now. *sigh* oh wells...

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 01:29 PM
Yeah, that's because you don't have Sideshow adding to the price as the only official distributor like we do. :(

160 = $253.77

So you Yanks are better off

jye318
08-23-2012, 01:31 PM
Pass on that price, I love this guy but not that price at all.

IrishJedi
08-23-2012, 01:31 PM
160 = $253.77

So you Yanks are better off

Damn, I forgot to do the exchange. :lol Yeah, you're screwed. :(

But the fact of the matter is that Sideshow jacks the prices of these things up, too. It's not just Hot Toys.

Apone
08-23-2012, 01:31 PM
At that price...batteries better friggin be included...Price Fail once again

gunm
08-23-2012, 01:32 PM
160 = $253.77

So you Yanks are better off


:lol Well, this Yank is NOT gonna pay $235 for this thing...:rotfl

Apone
08-23-2012, 01:33 PM
$235.....

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m93flynvPp1rtyaky.gif

hrambo001
08-23-2012, 01:33 PM
Wow!

The prices have been steadily increasing, but 235 for a pretty bare bones figure seems ridiculous.

I don't think my HT collecting days are over, but the days of pre-ordering everything certainly are.

I really don't see the justification for such a high price tag.

IrishJedi
08-23-2012, 01:33 PM
I seriously bet Sideshow gets these from Hot Toys for under $160/ea. You do the math from there.

The Ween
08-23-2012, 01:35 PM
$235.....

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m93flynvPp1rtyaky.gif

:lol I guess Jeremy says no!

gunm
08-23-2012, 01:36 PM
Hah, I say "No" too!

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 01:37 PM
$215 What happen to you Hot Toys you use to be cool?

:lol:lol


Well, if his reveal/pre-order is still several months away you may be right.:pow

:exactly:

Any figure upcoming also comes with an absurdly higher pricing.

I bet if they got on board with XFC not too long after they announced it, the prices would be much cheaper than they will be

The Ween
08-23-2012, 01:39 PM
I seriously bet Sideshow gets these from Hot Toys for under $160/ea. You do the math from there.

Actually, having worked in retail most of my life, a $75 markup really isn't that bad. It's usually double.

Apone
08-23-2012, 01:40 PM
Sideshow gets them for less than that. My buddy has an account with sideshow and he gets everything at 30% off sideshow retail prices..that puts this figure at $164.00. No way Sideshow is making $4.00 off this to retailers even with their direct sales to customers. I bet they get this figure for around $99-120. Then they shine up their clear plastic poles and ram them right up the collector's butts.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2cf8xmJp91qckgvu.gif

EVILFACE
08-23-2012, 01:40 PM
$235 http://i.imgur.com/CC3UO.gif $235

hunnipot85
08-23-2012, 01:41 PM
Sideshow gets them for less than that. My buddy has an account with sideshow and he gets everything at 30% off sideshow retail prices..that puts this figure at $164.00. No way Sideshow is making $4.00 off this to retailers even with their direct sales to customers. I bet they get this figure for around $99-120. Then they shine up their clear plastic poles and ram them right up the collector's butts.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2cf8xmJp91qckgvu.gif

:lol that sounds about right.

greygoose
08-23-2012, 01:41 PM
::exactly:

Any figure upcoming also comes with an absurdly higher pricing.

I bet if they got on board with XFC not too long after they announced it, the prices would be much cheaper than they will be

I wonder how long they will get away with putting the price up with every new release...

Apone
08-23-2012, 01:41 PM
$235 http://i.imgur.com/CC3UO.gif $235

Hahaha..excellent

VS1976
08-23-2012, 01:42 PM
extremely over priced given the fact it looks nothing like Hugh Jackman

IrishJedi
08-23-2012, 01:43 PM
Actually, having worked in retail most of my life, a $75 markup really isn't that bad. It's usually double.

Not normal for this kind of market.

The Ween
08-23-2012, 01:44 PM
Isn't there a store in HK that sells Hot Toys? How much are they selling it for? Does HT dictate the SSC's price?

IrishJedi
08-23-2012, 01:44 PM
Sideshow gets them for less than that. My buddy has an account with sideshow and he gets everything at 30% off sideshow retail prices..that puts this figure at $164.00. No way Sideshow is making $4.00 off this to retailers even with their direct sales to customers. I bet they get this figure for around $99-120. Then they shine up their clear plastic poles and ram them right up the collector's butts.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2cf8xmJp91qckgvu.gif

I wouldn't be surprised.

Alainator
08-23-2012, 01:45 PM
Sideshow gets them for less than that. My buddy has an account with sideshow and he gets everything at 30% off sideshow retail prices..that puts this figure at $164.00. No way Sideshow is making $4.00 off this to retailers even with their direct sales to customers. I bet they get this figure for around $99-120. Then they shine up their clear plastic poles and ram them right up the collector's butts.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2cf8xmJp91qckgvu.gif

Don't forget that they jacked the price up and then says "free shipping".

The Ween
08-23-2012, 01:50 PM
Not normal for this kind of market.


But most places are only giving about a 10% discount from Sideshow's and then charging shipping, so it usually makes it about the same price.

I'm not defending them or anything, I'm just sayin'.

Everybody has to make money somehow. Unless you can buy wholesale, you're gonna pay a high markup. Even Walmart gets things for 50 cents and sells them for $3.

If this came with another headsculpt, especially one that looks like Hugh, I might consider it, but since my pretend boyfriend said no, it's a pass for me. :lol

:D

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 01:51 PM
extremely over priced given the fact it looks nothing like Hugh Jackman

I wasn't fussed about the HS but for $235 it should be 99% and include a second head.


Don't forget that they jacked the price up and then says "free shipping". And international customers don't get that free shipping, so shipping x2

Science Friction
08-23-2012, 01:51 PM
You know.. it's also Wolverine's least popular movie look if we're being frank. Hot Toys could have taken a much different approach, with a similar pack out and had a more successful figure on their hands imo.

intothevoid
08-23-2012, 01:51 PM
Fail figure.

gunm
08-23-2012, 01:52 PM
Figure ok, price, though...HUGE FAIL.

The Ween
08-23-2012, 01:53 PM
Don't forget that they jacked the price up and then says "free shipping".

And unfortunately, all the other places it will be alittle cheaper WITH shipping so it's a no win whatever you do.

Too bad I'm not rich where I wouldn't care. :(

batfan08
08-23-2012, 01:54 PM
$235...:rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

This guy'll be gift card eligible by next June at that price. :lol :slap

robbiethepainter
08-23-2012, 01:55 PM
Wow just saw the price. Normally Im on the side of price increases are justified, but HT has hit my ceiling. Will not be get this. I was on the fence a little but I just can't justify this one. If they improve the head sculpt I may try and get one parted out but nothing about this is getting me to bite.

The Ween
08-23-2012, 01:56 PM
BUT....BUT....BUT....You guys don't understand!! The figure stand lights up!!!!

:lol

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 01:57 PM
Figure ok, price, though...HUGE FAIL.

:exactly:

Figure looks great, price looks :censored

snoop101
08-23-2012, 01:57 PM
Ill try to get the stand once its parted out but thats it. The stand will look cool next to Xavier and Magneto.

Darklord Dave
08-23-2012, 02:00 PM
Click the pic! Buy now!

Hot Toys X-MEN - Wolverine - 1/6 scale figure
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/901949_press01-001.jpg (http://affiliates.sideshowtoy.com/Tracker.aspx?aid=11&sku=901949&cid=18" target="_blank">")

intothevoid
08-23-2012, 02:00 PM
Likeness isn't there but it is a good looking figure.

Good looking figure > 100% likness sculpt


:exactly:

Figure looks great, price looks :censored

For $100 figure looks great.

For $235, it looks utter garbage.

:lecture

robbiethepainter
08-23-2012, 02:00 PM
Click the pic! Buy now!

Hot Toys X-MEN - Wolverine - 1/6 scale figure
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/901949_press01-001.jpg (http://affiliates.sideshowtoy.com/Tracker.aspx?aid=11&sku=901949&cid=18" target="_blank">")

Uh... not this one Dave. Sorry. Ill have to find another way to support the boards.

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 02:02 PM
This is only $40 less than Joker who comes with a PERS head, Alternate head, bunch of weapons, more hands, layered outfit, table, chair and lightup base

And Wolverine only has one head, lightup base and some hands :dunno

Mikekind
08-23-2012, 02:03 PM
I was expecting $199-I am more than shocked at the price.

Like everyone is saying, gonna wait for the inevitable part-out.

DarthTrafford
08-23-2012, 02:04 PM
WOW
I guess they made my choice for me!
I'm glad I have the Origins version.
That much money for so little is an insult!
They must think fans will buy anything now!

kryptonite1970
08-23-2012, 02:06 PM
Actually, having worked in retail most of my life, a $75 markup really isn't that bad. It's usually double.

I agree...there are times it's 300% mark-up.

Aumakua
08-23-2012, 02:08 PM
I seriously bet Sideshow gets these from Hot Toys for under $160/ea. You do the math from there.

I still have a wholesale price list from Sideshow sitting around somewhere. It was posted on their site by accident a little over a year ago. I remember seeing that retailers paid hot toys about 35-40% less than retail for their figures (but normal retail business is 30-40% margin so no surprise there, too many people involved to get product to final customer, it would be like Apple selling to Amazon only and Amazon selling to Best Buy before we could get the final product). So My guess is that Sideshow was paying Hot Toys maybe 50% of retail or less! So on a $180 figure back then Sideshow probably paid Hot Toys $90 for it...

I believe 100% this is sideshow setting the prices, Hot Toys needs to find another distributor!

at $199 I would consider this, $235 for a non DX figure with 1 head sculpt and no accessories? I think I paid $165 for my original Wolverine and that was only a couple years ago! I think they have finally crossed that line of supply and demand and they will start to see profit drop because they are selling so little units. Can't blame them for trying though, they had to see what their cap was. Hulk looks like a bargain compared to Wolverine. Maybe on this figure they just figured since the original was going for $500 on ebay they could easily get $235 from anyone who didn't buy the original. I think they over estimate how many people that actually is though, :lol

robbiethepainter
08-23-2012, 02:11 PM
After the shock has now worn off, this makes me ask the question of why?
I know people instantly go towards greed, but is that the reason? Is it the license? Or the likeness rights? Is it complexity of costume? Is it to cover the cost of failed figures like Jake Sully? Is it in fact Sideshow? What do people think?

Buttmunch
08-23-2012, 02:12 PM
Trust me, its not Sideshow settings those prices, its HT. Sideshow knows better than to expect this much from such a bare bones figure :lol

intothevoid
08-23-2012, 02:16 PM
After the shock has now worn off, this makes me ask the question of why?
I know people instantly go towards greed, but is that the reason? Is it the license? Or the likeness rights? Is it complexity of costume? Is it to cover the cost of failed figures like Jake Sully? Is it in fact Sideshow? What do people think?

It's HT's greed. They see people splashing stupid money on their figures in the secondary market and think they can now get away with bumping prices again.

No amount of realistic estimates of inflation account for the bumps in prices we've seen from them. Likeness costs are a constant (presumably not that much more expensive now as they were 2 years ago).

gunm
08-23-2012, 02:17 PM
Doesn't matter who is setting the price. It's ridiculous and I'm not paying.

FLOSI
08-23-2012, 02:18 PM
$235 http://i.imgur.com/CC3UO.gif $235

Holy crap, that was amazing. :clap

Apone
08-23-2012, 02:19 PM
Trust me, its not Sideshow settings those prices, its HT. Sideshow knows better than to expect this much from such a bare bones figure :lol

Sure about that?

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=100054&ref=companion_cross_1000301

The Skull
08-23-2012, 02:19 PM
I pre-ordered at bbts for 214.99, not to bad, this guy is alittle light on accessories but the base is pretty cool and lights up and its WOLVERINE so I'm happy, can't wait!!!

greygoose
08-23-2012, 02:20 PM
Doesn't matter who is setting the price. It's ridiculous and I'm not paying.

Looks like this figure is the one that has finally pissed people off with the ridiculous pricing.:stake

Cheungkinmen
08-23-2012, 02:21 PM
Man... I would TOTALLY spend $65 more and get me another Hulk :P

I thought this one was a $170 figure TOPS...

moose
08-23-2012, 02:23 PM
Well since the new movie is comming out we really dont have to be foreced in to getting this figure is we want a wolverine representation and to be frank all this prices hikes do is make people more picky so this mark up id due to the stand screw the stand man it not needed

ali032373
08-23-2012, 02:24 PM
Not since Indy have i seen such rebellion.

Aumakua
08-23-2012, 02:27 PM
Trust me, its not Sideshow settings those prices, its HT. Sideshow knows better than to expect this much from such a bare bones figure :lol

Yes and no, its a combination. Say in the past Sideshow was selling it for $180 on their site and $125 to retailers, you know their cost was probably $90. So Hot Toys saw figures selling for double what they got and sometimes triple on ebay. So they kept jacking up prices. What happens is that Hot Toys raises the price from $90 to $100 to Sideshow, well Sideshow doesn't want to lose margin so they go from $180 to $200, happens with all types of business, no one reduces margin because their costs went up unless competition requires it but there is no competition. Its like Gas, oil goes up 10% in price, so does gasoline (or more), gas stations still make their same margin as always. So now if Hot toys wants $115-$120 for their figure from Sideshow, we will start seeing $235 to $240 retails, so the more "greedy" Hot Toys gets the more money Sideshow makes, until they hit the point where WE stop buying, then someone needs to budge, either Hot Toys needs to lower cost to Sideshow or Sideshow needs to realize they can't make 100% markup on TOYS this expensive anymore and should be more than happy making 80% on them which is still more profit than when they were selling them for $160.

The fact that retailers who buy from Hot Toys will so easily discount 10% on pre-orders shows you they have a ton of profit in them.

IrishJedi
08-23-2012, 02:27 PM
But most places are only giving about a 10% discount from Sideshow's and then charging shipping, so it usually makes it about the same price.

I'm not defending them or anything, I'm just sayin'.

Everybody has to make money somehow. Unless you can buy wholesale, you're gonna pay a high markup. Even Walmart gets things for 50 cents and sells them for $3.

If this came with another headsculpt, especially one that looks like Hugh, I might consider it, but since my pretend boyfriend said no, it's a pass for me. :lol

:D

There is no excuse for the price of this figure. None. It's just plain greed.

Apone
08-23-2012, 02:27 PM
I pre-ordered at bbts for 214.99, not to bad, this guy is alittle light on accessories but the base is pretty cool and lights up and its WOLVERINE so I'm happy, can't wait!!!

Thought that I had more of a chance in seeing the below than someone happy to dish that much for a basic figure.

http://spud.wetfish.net/b/rocketdeer.gif

Aumakua
08-23-2012, 02:28 PM
Sure about that?

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=100054&ref=companion_cross_1000301

:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:l ol:lol:lol:

FQRizzo
08-23-2012, 02:29 PM
That's a damn fine figure of Hugh Jackman's stunt double. $235 is a steal

IrishJedi
08-23-2012, 02:30 PM
Trust me, its not Sideshow settings those prices, its HT. Sideshow knows better than to expect this much from such a bare bones figure :lol

You're wrong, dude. I know for a fact that Sideshow has a big say in what the retail prices for these figures in NA are. We just don't know exactly what their margins are. But based on given info, they're apparently pretty high. They are absolutely culpable here as well.

Buttmunch
08-23-2012, 02:30 PM
Sure about that?

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=100054&ref=companion_cross_1000301

Touche. But compairing something made out of polystone and something made out of plastic isn't ever going to be fair. HT gives Sideshow a wholesale price and then the MSRP for each item. Sideshow buys at the wholesale price (like every other distributer in the world) and then sales at MSRP given to them. Sideshow didn't set this MSRP, they were told it. Considering what kind of figure we can get from Sideshow for $200, they know this isn't the best deal in the world.

Unless things change dramatically, I give HT about 1 more year before they price themselves out of the market, and thus die. And if prices don't start making sense again, they have my permission to die. :pfft:

Apone
08-23-2012, 02:30 PM
Yes and no, its a combination. Say in the past Sideshow was selling it for $180 on their site and $125 to retailers, you know their cost was probably $90. So Hot Toys saw figures selling for double what they got and sometimes triple on ebay. So they kept jacking up prices. What happens is that Hot Toys raises the price from $90 to $100 to Sideshow, well Sideshow doesn't want to lose margin so they go from $180 to $200, happens with all types of business, no one reduces margin because their costs went up unless competition requires it but there is no competition. Its like Gas, oil goes up 10% in price, so does gasoline (or more), gas stations still make their same margin as always. So now if Hot toys wants $115-$120 for their figure from Sideshow, we will start seeing $235 to $240 retails, so the more "greedy" Hot Toys gets the more money Sideshow makes, until they hit the point where WE stop buying, then someone needs to budge, either Hot Toys needs to lower cost to Sideshow or Sideshow needs to realize they can't make 100% markup on TOYS this expensive anymore and should be more than happy making 80% on them which is still more profit than when they were selling them for $160.

The fact that retailers who buy from Hot Toys will so easily discount 10% on pre-orders shows you they have a ton of profit in them.

How do you explain Sideshow's products price increases though? They have tripled in three years...and retailers sell them for less than they do on their site.

EXOTICLEX
08-23-2012, 02:31 PM
$235
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http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee471/Chalger/Moving%20gif/jake-laughing-o.gif

tdk5
08-23-2012, 02:31 PM
I think it's SS setting the prices. For example, in Singapore, the DX 12 Bats was retailing at S$300, which is around US$240. Contrast that to Sideshow's MSRP of US$259.99. I think from that we could see who's setting those prices.

Agreed though that Wolverine is overpriced. I thought the DX09 was really expensive when it first went up for PO, but seeing Wolverine's price made me think I committed daylight robbery with the $228 I paid for Bats haha..

Shudder to think what HT's prices will be by the end of 2013...maybe it's Sideshow's way of discouraging customers from pursuing Hot Toys' products while simultaneously allowing SS to release their own line of 1/6 scale figures.

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 02:32 PM
After the shock has now worn off, this makes me ask the question of why?
I know people instantly go towards greed, but is that the reason? Is it the license? Or the likeness rights? Is it complexity of costume? Is it to cover the cost of failed figures like Jake Sully? Is it in fact Sideshow? What do people think?

They got the license years ago so it can't be that.
It doesn't look enough like Jackman for likeness rights, plus they done him already for cheaper.
Costume doesn't look difficult
Jake Suly is an amazing figure, FOTY for many of those who do own him

greygoose
08-23-2012, 02:34 PM
http://spud.wetfish.net/b/rocketdeer.gif

What the hell?:rotfl

Aumakua
08-23-2012, 02:34 PM
Touche. But compairing something made out of polystone and something made out of plastic isn't ever going to be fair. HT gives Sideshow a wholesale price and then the MSRP for each item. Sideshow buys at the wholesale price (like every other distributer in the world) and then sales at MSRP given to them. Sideshow didn't set this MSRP, they were told it. Considering what kind of figure we can get from Sideshow for $200, they know this isn't the best deal in the world.

Unless things change dramatically, I give HT about 1 more year before they price themselves out of the market, and thus die. And if prices don't start making sense again, they have my permission to die. :pfft:

You are missing the fact that Sideshow distributes to all these other places like AE and BBTS, they don't do that for free! so when they sell to them to retailers at "Wholesale" Sideshow is making money, Sideshow doesn't pay "wholesale" the other retailers do.

tommyh84
08-23-2012, 02:34 PM
160 = $253.77

So you Yanks are better off

Personally (and this might be because I'm late to the hobby) I'm used to paying between 150-200 minimum for these figures so for me I'm never really fussed about the pricing.

I can obviously understand the frustrations of those that used to get their Hot Toys figures for 80 though :lol

gunm
08-23-2012, 02:35 PM
Unless things change dramatically, I give HT about 1 more year before they price themselves out of the market, and thus die. And if prices don't start making sense again, they have my permission to die. :pfft:



:goodpost:


I'm not sure they will die, but their market will definitely shrink to just the handful of rich guys who scoff at price and just open their wallets for every release. They might be able to survive that way, but they aren't going to grow as a company.

Apone
08-23-2012, 02:35 PM
To whomever is behind these ridiculous price increases.....
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/04-1.gif

mikericm
08-23-2012, 02:36 PM
I pre-ordered at bbts for 214.99, not to bad, this guy is alittle light on accessories but the base is pretty cool and lights up and its WOLVERINE so I'm happy, can't wait!!!

Is that $214.99 PLUS shipping or including shipping?


I may actually order somewhere besides sideshow for the first time

gunm
08-23-2012, 02:38 PM
Is that $214.99 PLUS shipping or including shipping?


I may actually order somewhere besides sideshow for the first time



Shipping is extra.

greygoose
08-23-2012, 02:38 PM
I can obviously understand the frustrations of those that used to get their Hot Toys figures for 80 though :lol

I got my Wolf Predator for 80 and look at this:

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/andyarneriise/Fullscreencapture19042011180358.jpg

youbastards
08-23-2012, 02:38 PM
What the hell?:rotfl

Check out "Gentlemen Broncos" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1161418/), from the creators of "Napoleon Dynamite". A truly bizarre movie that happens to reuse the cyclops prosthetics from "Krull".

Aumakua
08-23-2012, 02:38 PM
Personally (and this might be because I'm late to the hobby) I'm used to paying between 150-200 minimum for these figures so for me I'm never really fussed about the pricing.

I can obviously understand the frustrations of those that used to get their Hot Toys figures for 80 though :lol

No offense, but non US buyers can't get into price discussions, same thing with the Auto industry, the US moves the volume and doesn't have the taxes Europe has. We pay $50K for a BMW 3 series and you pay $75K (converted) for the same exact car! sucks but it is what it is. Plus the freight to get the toys to Europe is a lot higher than to the States. You just have more people trying to make money on the deal than anyone else!

gdb
08-23-2012, 02:38 PM
To whomever is behind these ridiculous price increases.....
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/04-1.gif

I concur. :exactly:

Mad Old Lu
08-23-2012, 02:41 PM
Sadly I'm not the least bit surprised at the price. The way things have been going, it's pretty much at what I thought (I was thinking $225).

greygoose
08-23-2012, 02:41 PM
I concur. :exactly:

Me too.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_left4tCTPB1qf8yek.gif

mikericm
08-23-2012, 02:41 PM
Shipping is extra.


that sucks. If shipping is extra at BBTS, the $215 is the same price as sideshow with free shipping. Especially since you have to add $2 to upgrade to a collectors edition.


Why does anyone living in the US who could get free shipping through SS think getting it at BBTS is a better deal?

ITS NOT!

Rzeznikk
08-23-2012, 02:42 PM
that sucks. If shipping is extra at BBTS, the $215 is the same price as sideshow with free shipping. Especially since you have to add $2 to upgrade to a collectors edition.


Why does anyone living in the US who could get free shipping through SS think getting it at BBTS is a better deal?

ITS NOT!

THATS A BINGO.

moose
08-23-2012, 02:43 PM
They really need to improve the head and then maybe it might be a better pill to swallow, but as it stands now the origins head was looking better.

tdk5
08-23-2012, 02:43 PM
that sucks. If shipping is extra at BBTS, the $215 is the same price as sideshow with free shipping. Especially since you have to add $2 to upgrade to a collectors edition.


Why does anyone living in the US who could get free shipping through SS think getting it at BBTS is a better deal?

ITS NOT!

Said person may be living in CA where they get hit with taxes ordering through SS. Not to mention BBTS double box their figures, unlike SS

jimmie_dimmick
08-23-2012, 02:44 PM
Said person may be living in CA where they get hit with taxes ordering through SS. Not to mention BBTS double box their figures, unlike SS

Nailed it on the head!

kanine
08-23-2012, 02:45 PM
I know it's wolverine, but gawd, these prices are getting out of control.

mikericm
08-23-2012, 02:45 PM
Said person may be living in CA where they get hit with taxes ordering through SS. Not to mention BBTS double box their figures, unlike SS

That would be understandable. In this case, the member lives in New York. :slap

Aumakua
08-23-2012, 02:46 PM
Said person may be living in CA where they get hit with taxes ordering through SS. Not to mention BBTS double box their figures, unlike SS

yeah state by state taxes can be the reason some don't buy from Sideshow. I usually buy from AE if its $190 or more because with shipping and cash back stuff they are normally the same price at that point but AE double boxes it! under $190 I just go with Sideshow.

moose
08-23-2012, 02:46 PM
that sucks. If shipping is extra at BBTS, the $215 is the same price as sideshow with free shipping. Especially since you have to add $2 to upgrade to a collectors edition.


Why does anyone living in the US who could get free shipping through SS think getting it at BBTS is a better deal?

ITS NOT!

I shop at BBTS because it allows me to combine items to reduce shipping so from that prespective its better , however side show does give you points on certains Hot Toys products that can be used towards other purchases also BBTS on most things does not require a NRD unlike Side Show which does not to mention I for one like the delay as it provided we with a chance to further decide if I want the figure or not

tdk5
08-23-2012, 02:50 PM
yea double boxing is definitely one of the main selling points buying from retailers. Many have had their figure boxes damaged because SS is too cheap to double-box them; I think they make profits off those shipping prices too.

E.g. Rescue Cap costs $15 to ship. I usually pay that price to UPS only when I ship a figure that's been double boxed with lots of packing nuts/foam. The figure with the shipper itself should cost at most $8-$9 to ship...and that's not counting the volume discount that shops like SS will receive from delivery carriers.

Adrosi
08-23-2012, 02:50 PM
Sorry to add to the self-pity train but WOW. $235!!??? REALLY? I've only been in this hobby for a little over a year....and apparently it was the wrong year to get into it... Price point jumps of anywhere from $80-100 dollars with minimal accessories to boot.

This one was totally on my interested list, but I can barely justify spending this on anything let alone a doll.

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 02:51 PM
They really need to improve the head and then maybe it might be a better pill to swallow, but as it stands now the origins head was looking better.

Not only does it come with so little but the head isn't as good as HT provide for other figures.

If this was $190 there'd still be people thinking it's not worth it due to the contents and lack of likeness and they're pushing further into the $200 range :slap

The only HT on my list these day is X-Men, Expendables and Arkham City. And even those are now becoming un-buyable due to the crazy pricing

greygoose
08-23-2012, 02:55 PM
If people start voting with their wallets and stop buying Hot Toys figures you may get atleast a price freeze in the future.:dunno

Darkseed
08-23-2012, 02:56 PM
The price hike wasn't unexpected. I called it earlier just the wrong price (I forgot about Loki $219). The price hikes typically between $10 -$20 and it is getting rather predictable what figures it'll hit.

I know SS doesnt care whether I buy directly through them or AE CSC etc it's still a sell to them. That said, SS can kiss my lil white butt , i am not paying their price. HT isn't too far away from the same invite. Perhaps they (HT) should consider expanding North America sales partners :wink1:

Bo Shrek
08-23-2012, 02:57 PM
Have you ever purchased a lighter from a gas station/corner store. When inquiring about the price the teller says $2.50...you say out loud "$2.50!!!!" shrug your shoulders and buy it anyway!!! Well I don't think I can do that anymore.

Hurry up and get Returns Penguin and DX Rocky out so I can remove myself from this ridiculously priced hobby!!!

IrishJedi
08-23-2012, 03:00 PM
Touche. But compairing something made out of polystone and something made out of plastic isn't ever going to be fair.

Wait... The E-Web Cannon isn't made out of polystone. It's plastic, too. :lol

eczamurai
08-23-2012, 03:02 PM
Well, I found HT price tag to be just about right when I started this hobby, which was with the BR joker, at 150$.

But this is crazy. Not buying any avengers because of this except Thor, because my girlfriend likes him so much and I like the idea of one figure on my shelve being something she likes.

IronManny
08-23-2012, 03:05 PM
This is a lot of money for what you get.

That said, I won't leave the hobby. This just makes me be much more selective when buying a figure. I used to buy everything that came out from the Prison Break Figures to the Iron Men, but now I hardly buy at all. I want all of the Avengers, all of the Batmen, all of the odd and end figures like Tron but I can't anymore. The extra $80 - $100 a figure is too much. I still love me some Hot Toys, but I just can't have them all anymore.

Wake
08-23-2012, 03:13 PM
I don't pass on a lot of figures... but this is getting a pass. I'm happy with my Wolverine origins figure.

Uncanny Web-Slinger
08-23-2012, 03:17 PM
This is a lot of money for what you get.

That said, I won't leave the hobby. This just makes me be much more selective when buying a figure. I used to buy everything that came out from the Prison Break Figures to the Iron Men, but now I hardly buy at all. I want all of the Avengers, all of the Batmen, all of the odd and end figures like Tron but I can't anymore. The extra $80 - $100 a figure is too much. I still love me some Hot Toys, but I just can't have them all anymore.

:exactly:

I'd get this at tha price if the contents in the box were worthy of that pricem but it's not :(

This was one of the very few upcoming figures i want, and they make it far to hard to want it with their overpricing.

Apone
08-23-2012, 03:17 PM
Wait... The E-Web Cannon isn't made out of polystone. It's plastic, too. :lol

He thought he had a slam dunk with that polystone defense...haha

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m83e6vOl5B1r3gb3zo1_400.gif

lamtsunfung
08-23-2012, 03:18 PM
I shop at BBTS because it allows me to combine items to reduce shipping so from that prespective its better , however side show does give you points on certains Hot Toys products that can be used towards other purchases also BBTS on most things does not require a NRD unlike Side Show which does not to mention I for one like the delay as it provided we with a chance to further decide if I want the figure or not

I preordered one from BBTS because $214.99+$9.19(shipping)=$224.18, while Sideshow charges me $234.99+$17.04(tax)=$252.03.

I live in Los Angeles.

Jaymole
08-23-2012, 03:21 PM
This is a lot of money for what you get.

That said, I won't leave the hobby. This just makes me be much more selective when buying a figure. I used to buy everything that came out from the Prison Break Figures to the Iron Men, but now I hardly buy at all. I want all of the Avengers, all of the Batmen, all of the odd and end figures like Tron but I can't anymore. The extra $80 - $100 a figure is too much. I still love me some Hot Toys, but I just can't have them all anymore.

That is what is happening to me...I have to be more selective with HT now due to the combination of higher prices and more product.

I think this figure may be the breaking point for many...it's almost as if HT is pushing the prices higher and higher to see at what price collectors will finally balk and walk away.

RIDDICK
08-23-2012, 03:26 PM
$235 http://i.imgur.com/CC3UO.gif $235
:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl:rotfl





This is only $40 less than Joker who comes with a PERS head, Alternate head, bunch of weapons, more hands, layered outfit, table, chair and lightup base

And Wolverine only has one head, lightup base and some hands :dunno
:exactly: :slap:slap:slap

DC wins yet again.

Darth Con
08-23-2012, 03:26 PM
$234.99?!!?!! didnt think it would be that high.
easy pass for that price. :(
nothing special about this, will pick up HS on ebay.

spindrift
08-23-2012, 03:27 PM
Another mediocre sculpt from HT....looks abit comic-like and only see some Jackman in it....and the price.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grimlock
08-23-2012, 03:28 PM
I own pretty much every Hot Toys Marvel figure to date (except Blade I think), but this one is an easy pass for me. I hate the head sculpt and the price is crazy. If people complain about the Hulk price, than this price is absolutely insane in comparison. Not to mention I already have the Medicom Wolverine which is fairly similar looking in my display. Clearly the Hot Toys is superior than the Medicom, but not worth this much money!

To those of you who love this figure, and will pay for it, more power to you. It just isn't one for me. Just like I will be passing on the forthcoming Agent Coulson since he isn't a character I give a crap about. If only Hot Toys would make comic based characters they would get all my money. A comic based Colossus or Juggernaut? YES PLEASE!

Niceman
08-23-2012, 03:31 PM
This is a DX price. And I'd leave that cheesy base in the box. There's no good reason why this should cost even $200, let alone $235.

I was hoping to cut way back once I have the Avengers and the main Batman characters. This helps. Now I don't have to be tempted into the X-Men line.