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Invictus Sol
07-05-2012, 11:02 AM
I think that's really hard to say... The first teaser pic could mean that it's essentially done but it was taken from a little ways back with not much detail (shot with Vader looking at his helmet). The second teaser of his helmet/hands were all unpainted, so dunno if that says to me that a PO is imminent. I'd be kind of surprised if we saw anything more than a completed prototype in SDCC with a PO somewhere down the road but could be wrong. Hopefully pixle's right as I'd like to have one of these on order, for sure.

jimmie_dimmick
07-05-2012, 11:05 AM
So what you both are saying is anywhere between next week or 6+ months from now...

galactiboy
07-05-2012, 11:21 AM
Worst case scenario it could be like Grievous where we saw him at SDCC and still have not gotten to pre-order him.

Although last time we saw a Vader at SDCC the pre-order was soon after. I think the issue with Grievous is what was shown at SDCC did not have the articulation figured out yet.

Invictus Sol
07-05-2012, 11:21 AM
So what you both are saying is anywhere between next week or 6+ months from now...
Haha, yeah, no-one knows. Imagine what people were saying last year when the teaser pic of Grievous went up and everyone saw the proto at SDCC. If we were to dig-up those old threads, can't imagine anyone would've thought we still wouldn't have a PO for it by now.

Edit: What galactiboy said, too. Beyond the articulation/possible QC issues they've run into with Grievous, it's obvious they weren't anywhere near ready for production. I doubt they'd tease another character again unless they're pretty sure that it's ready to go (hard to say with Sideshow, though, they're not really consistant or predictable as one might assume).

jimmie_dimmick
07-05-2012, 11:29 AM
For my wallets sake, I selfishly hope he's pushed back to next year, but for all who are eagerly anticipating him much like myself, sooner rather than later would be nice. Just hope I can slide him into the PO equation.

galactiboy
07-05-2012, 11:40 AM
Don't worry, even if he PO's this month its a long shot he'll be out before 2013.

Wor-Gar
07-05-2012, 11:53 AM
a long shot he'll be out before 2013.

Word!

http://heavenhollywood.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/flavor-flav-cc08.jpg

matticus
07-05-2012, 12:18 PM
The silver (gunmetal) on Vaders face are painted highlights, so that the facets stand out- else- he'll just appear as a black blob...it's very characteristic of his expression to, so it's necessary with any reproduction of Vader...they are in all OT films -- the ROTS Vader is ALL black - clearer pic, plus symmetry was important to show his machine-like persona now...loss of humanity

Thanks demorathis! :wave

pixletwin
07-05-2012, 12:56 PM
Yeah I would even be surprised if Vader was set for release as early as Q1 2013.

jimmie_dimmick
07-05-2012, 12:57 PM
That's refreshing.

qbomb71
07-05-2012, 01:15 PM
Yeah I would even be surprised if Vader was set for release as early as Q1 2013.

True. And then there are sure to be delays after that.
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb325/qbomb71/sadstormie.jpg

Hirogen
07-05-2012, 03:01 PM
I am really looking forward to this piece, I held off purchasing the ANH version in hopes we would see this version.

KillKen
07-09-2012, 11:22 PM
Ummm so are we expecting this to be revealed and maybe up for preorder this week??? :)

EVILFACE
07-09-2012, 11:24 PM
Maybe at that toy thing in San Diego.

KillKen
07-09-2012, 11:26 PM
Yeah that's what I was thinking lol

pixletwin
07-10-2012, 08:45 AM
Awesome thread bump is awesome. :I

MaulFan
07-11-2012, 06:51 PM
And there he is. What a cool base?

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l173/digidozer/Sideshow%20Projects/555781_496207210404951_1156956640_n.jpg

Looks amazing, and while blurry, the price looks under $200, maybe $180.-$190.

THX-182
07-11-2012, 06:52 PM
Looks TBD to me...

Haloid1177
07-11-2012, 06:52 PM
Looks amazing, and while blurry, the price looks under $200, maybe $180.-$190.

The price says "TBD".

MaulFan
07-11-2012, 06:53 PM
The price says "TBD".

Damn, well at least he still looks awesome.

Wor-Gar
07-11-2012, 06:58 PM
I'm still concerned about the cape material.... but it's nice to finally see him.

MaulFan
07-11-2012, 07:01 PM
I'm still concerned about the cape material.... but it's nice to finally see him.

Hard to say from one pic, but seems nicer than the thing stuff used before.

pixletwin
07-11-2012, 07:01 PM
Vader looks good. But I am disappointed that they didn't showcase more of him.

Wor-Gar
07-11-2012, 07:03 PM
Hard to say from one pic, but seems nicer than the thing stuff used before.

It's different material, but it doesn't hang or drape any better in that pic. Hopefully its like Jedi robes and is water treatable.

MaulFan
07-11-2012, 07:04 PM
Vader looks good. But I am disappointed that they didn't showcase more of him.

Would be nice to see the Anakin portrait.

kl241
07-11-2012, 07:05 PM
How much was ANH Vader?

TotalDominAsian
07-11-2012, 07:07 PM
Don't expect to see that base with the figure. Probably sold separately... For $250. :(

kl241
07-11-2012, 07:08 PM
Don't expect to see that base with the figure. Probably sold separately... For $250. :(

Just give me a Meditation Chamber environment and that is all I need.

Matt S
07-11-2012, 07:10 PM
how much was anh vader?

$125












.

MaulFan
07-11-2012, 07:16 PM
The big base is just a generic thing for the booth display, the only part Vader will come with is the black part that mirrors the holo pad in ESB.

Creighton
07-11-2012, 07:17 PM
I remember when I bought exclusive vader for 120 and nearly choked that I spent so much. I kept him mint and sadly had to sell him because of an employment setback. He sold for 500. That's beside the point. It pained me to sell him but now I read this announcement and do the dance of joy!

kl241
07-11-2012, 07:18 PM
Shouldn't the ESB helmet look shinier though?

Pretty much looks like a recycle of ANH Vader.

Haloid1177
07-11-2012, 07:19 PM
Shouldn't the ESB helmet look shinier though?

Pretty much looks like a recycle of ANH Vader.

Should have more gloss, yes.

FLOSI
07-11-2012, 07:50 PM
Looks like a WIP still. Can't wait!!

Biojex
07-11-2012, 08:02 PM
Looking boss so far.

Invictus Sol
07-11-2012, 08:04 PM
Wow, didn't expect to be able to see Vader today. He looks great and I was hoping for the holopad he used in ESB with the Emperor. From first glance, the robes look pretty good, too (if a bit puffy). Great thing with that is they'd be super easy to get customized, so that's not really a concern. Can't wait to see more.

Edit: Dammit, now I'm wondering what the exclusive with Vader will be... doesn't seem to be anything too obvious and nothing I can think from the old Kenner days that Sideshow could throw in. Looking forward to seeing what they do, though I'm OK with no exclusive, as well.

Red Metal
07-11-2012, 08:10 PM
I remember when I bought exclusive vader for 120 and nearly choked that I spent so much. I kept him mint and sadly had to sell him because of an employment setback. He sold for 500. That's beside the point. It pained me to sell him but now I read this announcement and do the dance of joy!

I was in the same boat. Initially Vader hadn't sold out right away, so I bought a second to keep sealed just because I liked it so much. Money got tight and I had to sell it and it made back the cost and extra. I still have the one I kept loose, but kind of regretted selling the sealed one since my money issue was fine later on.

Now, I take a look at this figure and even though I like it and I'm glad we get another Vader, I know the $120 price-point is just a dream these days. With Fett going at $175, there's no way this Vader will be less than $200. The only thing I can rely on is that, like Fett, the ES will be so high on this one that I might just get it somewhere cheap a couple months after release.

ArmoredFoe
07-11-2012, 08:13 PM
Yeah I missed out on the first Vader, it wont happen again.

abake
07-11-2012, 09:33 PM
What? Just one lousy, distorted, blurry pic?
Vader surely deserves better than this... :impatient:

Walker
07-11-2012, 09:56 PM
Here you are guys. Another lousy, distorted, blurry pic from the front!

http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/news/images2012b/sdcc-ssc001.jpg

mmurrer
07-11-2012, 09:58 PM
What? Just one lousy, distorted, blurry pic?
Vader surely deserves better than this... :impatient:

That's rather rude, considering the show hasn't really started and people posting pictures are doing us a favor.

Brinn 71
07-11-2012, 09:58 PM
Here you are guys. Another lousy, distorted, blurry pic from the front!

http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/news/images2012b/sdcc-ssc001.jpg

:clap :lecture BEAUTIFUL!

THANKS for posting!! :hi5:

Wor-Gar
07-11-2012, 10:04 PM
Looking better. Interesting stand (the circular black one with the Empire symbol). Wonder if that's the stand we'll get?

Avenger
07-11-2012, 10:05 PM
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/426972_340331872708019_804739437_n.jpg

Hydeous
07-11-2012, 10:14 PM
Is there a gap between the upper chest armor and the shoulder armor on the actual screen prop?

jpf1138
07-11-2012, 10:17 PM
Vader looks awesome! But I have to say the helmet seems to be sitting a little high. Thanks for sharing!

Gipetto0812
07-11-2012, 10:18 PM
Loving this new pic! thanks for posting!

kl241
07-11-2012, 10:19 PM
Vader looks awesome! But I have to say the helmet seems to be sitting a little high. Thanks for sharing!

Looks like we'll have to do the helmet mod... AGAIN. :slap

jpf1138
07-11-2012, 10:23 PM
Is there a gap between the upper chest armor and the shoulder armor on the actual screen prop?
No there isn't
http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h438/jpf1138/EmpireVader11.jpg

medicomsucks
07-11-2012, 10:23 PM
Without seeing more pics, my first impression is it's the same quality as the previous version, only done ROTJ/ESB style. However I have the feeling it's going to be $225 instead of $125 this time.

The armor that covers the deltoids should be black, not gray. The cape looks like it's the same quality as the last one. The armor in general should be shinier.

swsqueakquels
07-11-2012, 10:35 PM
Vader looks awesome! But I have to say the helmet seems to be sitting a little high. Thanks for sharing!

This version has at least one helmet reveal head, so it's probably just not futzed right.

SSC really needs to teach its employees the fine are of the futz with the level of detail/resolution that we view these things at - and the prices they command. Fans see a piece of shoulder armor that has slipped 1/8" and it's jumped on (and I'm not saying the fans are at fault...)

You get a clear sense that the fans know way more than SSC does, even with their piles of reference and LFL on speed dial.

pixletwin
07-11-2012, 10:46 PM
Do we have to write manifesto of analysis upon the first few pics coming out guys. I hate this section.

OSCORP
07-11-2012, 10:50 PM
Do we have to write manifesto of analysis upon the first few pics coming out guys. I hate this section.

lol


:lol

Hydeous
07-11-2012, 10:50 PM
No there isn't
http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h438/jpf1138/EmpireVader11.jpg

actually, it looks like its 3 separate pieces. So its accurate then.

chRd
07-11-2012, 11:29 PM
let's just wait for more pics, yes im guessing they just didnt place the dome right so its not really an issue. after the last fiasco, SS should have taken a thing or two already

OSCORP
07-11-2012, 11:38 PM
Looks like the same cheap cod piece as well.

Puay
07-11-2012, 11:47 PM
Seems like Vader is coming with a new base:

http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/sideshow-collectibles/p42544-star-wars.html

kl241
07-11-2012, 11:57 PM
Yeah this is looking more and more like a direct re-release of ANH Vader with a few modifications. Let's hope they at least fixed the height this time but the helmet and armor need improvements. :slap

http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1052_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1053_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1057_RESIZED.jpg

OSCORP
07-11-2012, 11:58 PM
Yeah this is looking more and more like a direct re-release of ANH Vader with a few modifications. Let's hope they at least fixed the height this time but the helmet and armor need improvements. :slap


http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1053_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1056_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1052_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1055_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1057_RESIZED.jpg

Yup.

Haloid1177
07-12-2012, 12:00 AM
I love being so easily pleased. I think he looks fantastic and will make a concerted effort to get him.

shocktrooper_au
07-12-2012, 01:33 AM
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1053_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1056_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1052_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1055_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1057_RESIZED.jpg

Yup.

box it up and send it to me :pray:

swsqueakquels
07-12-2012, 04:08 AM
^^^ Yep!

If it's a straight re-release, I'll take it for $125 :wink1:

CaptnRex
07-12-2012, 04:22 AM
Straight re-release? Are you guys serious?

It looks fantastic, I own the ANH Vader and have always been happy enough with it, my Dome pushed down easily and I left the rest as is.

Looking forward to more pics and I'll definitely buy this figure.

Marvel-ous
07-12-2012, 04:32 AM
Is that the new Vader? The one with removable helmet?

T.E.D
07-12-2012, 04:55 AM
From Michael Crawford:

http://i47.tinypic.com/9roi7q.jpg

creature4000
07-12-2012, 05:29 AM
Bought! Next. ;)

RIDDICK
07-12-2012, 05:34 AM
Yeah, armor looks like the same from ANH figure... Very lame.

swsqueakquels
07-12-2012, 05:40 AM
Yeah, armor looks like the same from ANH figure... Very lame.

Exclusive will be a Hasbro dome.

devilof76
07-12-2012, 05:52 AM
Do we have to write manifesto of analysis upon the first few pics coming out guys. I hate this section.

Cool thread has a hard time staying cool.

stshammgod
07-12-2012, 05:58 AM
Do we have to write manifesto of analysis upon the first few pics coming out guys. I hate this section.

You should see the Batman section...

Mandible
07-12-2012, 06:04 AM
The face and the helmet look like crap.

Happy to stick with the modded old one - FARRRRR better IMO.

Darth Waller
07-12-2012, 06:07 AM
Do we have to write manifesto of analysis upon the first few pics coming out guys. I hate this section.

Same here. :(

Too Much Garlic
07-12-2012, 06:20 AM
Easy pass.

Matt S
07-12-2012, 06:26 AM
The dome is way off, AGAIN! Thats frustrating cause it tells me Sideshow is either not paying attention, not listening to fans, or just plain doing what they want anyway without disregard to truly topping their last effort. ANH Vader had serious issues

This hybrid version appears to have almost the same issues

galactiboy
07-12-2012, 06:37 AM
Looks great to me... I can see quite a few differences and overall he just seems to have a bit more presence than the first release.

Maglor
07-12-2012, 07:12 AM
Damn. I've been meaning to sell my ANH Vader for months. Waited too long. :(

galactiboy
07-12-2012, 07:22 AM
You'll still get a good amount for him... not everyone who buys these figures pays attention to release schedules like we do. I was worried when i sold my custom IG-88 and Bossk (both right after the first teasers confirmed they were coming) and both sold really well.

But I would not wait too much longer as the price will definitley dip once we get confirmed prices and specs.

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 07:25 AM
Do we have to write manifesto of analysis upon the first few pics coming out guys. I hate this section.

No crap... It's better when it's just a handful of us talking about goofy Star Wars memories... Once a new item comes it it seems like it all falls to hell.:dunno

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 07:26 AM
Damn. I've been meaning to sell my ANH Vader for months. Waited too long. :(

Dude, do it RIGHT NOW... This hasn't even POd yet.

gibby
07-12-2012, 07:26 AM
Does his belt light up or is that just the flash?

Can't wait to have him either way, standing with the Bounty Hunters on the bridge!

Rzeznikk
07-12-2012, 07:32 AM
Does his belt light up or is that just the flash?
Can't wait to have him either way, standing with the Bounty Hunters on the bridge!

Was wondering that myself.

gibby
07-12-2012, 07:36 AM
I was hoping his chest piece lit up as well...guess we'll wait and see.

Gipetto0812
07-12-2012, 08:11 AM
love this thing! glad I don't know much about Vader's suit or anything so I have nothing to gripe about :lol can't wait to own my first Vader! :panic:

abake
07-12-2012, 08:38 AM
Here you are guys. Another lousy, distorted, blurry pic from the front!

http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/news/images2012b/sdcc-ssc001.jpg


That's rather rude, considering the show hasn't really started and people posting pictures are doing us a favor.

Didn't mean to be rude, was kinda tongue-in-cheek... guess I should've put a smiling monkey.
Apologies.

abake
07-12-2012, 08:44 AM
While it doesn't blow me away as I was hoping, the figure does seem to have much better proportions than the ANH version. The arms and legs look much better. But the armor and helmet seem to be the same. That's weird.
Will wait to see more pics before making a decision on this one.

Deak Starkiller
07-12-2012, 08:44 AM
Damn. I've been meaning to sell my ANH Vader for months. Waited too long. :(

Why, he's awesome. :dunno

agonistes86
07-12-2012, 08:50 AM
My first 1:6 Vader. :yess: Love it.

http://www.mwctoys.com/sdcc2012/images/sdcc2012_sideshow_starwars_8.jpg

pixletwin
07-12-2012, 08:53 AM
Can't wait. Love it. Even the base is awesome.

devilof76
07-12-2012, 08:59 AM
Looks a lot shinier there.

I want to see under the mask. :pray:

barryo
07-12-2012, 08:59 AM
are we allowed to have a 2nd ssc vader in our collections?..........i would think that there is some kind of law about having too much awesome in one place.......:dunno

Gipetto0812
07-12-2012, 09:00 AM
that base is so awesome! just need some new Stormies to go with him on his own shelf

pixletwin
07-12-2012, 09:03 AM
Looks a lot shinier there.

I want to see under the mask. :pray:

:lecture:goodpost::lecture:exactly::lecture

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 09:03 AM
I don't think it's a good idea to pass judgement on this figure right now... It's pretty obvious that SS has thrown this together for the con with no PO in sight. Many of the parts we're seeing could very well be from the ANH version as stand ins.

Deak Starkiller
07-12-2012, 09:05 AM
Can't wait. Love it. Even the base is awesome.

This one is a keeper...right? :nono

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 09:06 AM
are we allowed to have a 2nd ssc vader in our collections?..........i would think that there is some kind of law about having too much awesome in one place.......:dunno

I plan to put this and the ANH version in my pants... Can you imagine??? That's more awesome than the law allows. :lecture

pixletwin
07-12-2012, 09:06 AM
Yup. I don't sell figures anymore that I have bought for myself.

*hears nam cackling in the distance*

:mad:

devilof76
07-12-2012, 09:07 AM
I don't think it's a good idea to pass judgement on this figure right now... It's pretty obvious that SS has thrown this together for the con with no PO in sight. Many of the parts we're seeing could very well be from the ANH version as stand ins.

There could be a lot of different things, but why pass up even the hint of an opportunity to let everybody know how much more they know about Darth Vader's costume than the people who will be getting $200 a piece for him.

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 09:07 AM
Yup. I don't sell figures anymore that I have bought for myself.

*hears nam cackling in the distance*

:mad:

Nam gives me crap for everything I sell too, which isn't much outside of a few GI Joe figures that I got tired of. :dunno

barryo
07-12-2012, 09:08 AM
I plan to put this and the ANH version in my pants... Can you imagine??? That's more awesome than the law allows. :lecture

WITH ROOM TO SPARE!!!!!!.............:monkey1














mornin' flosi.........:wave

crasis
07-12-2012, 09:09 AM
Yeah, I'm not going to fully judge this one until we see something more than this somewhat rough prototype. This looks very quickly thrown together for the con, just to say "WE'RE GETTING THERE, GUYS."

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 09:11 AM
There could be a lot of different things, but why pass up even the hint of an opportunity to let everybody know how much more they know about Darth Vader's costume than the people who will be getting $200 a piece for him.

Or the people who are pointing out how much Vader cost us 3 years ago. This is a fantastic time and place to discuss inflation.

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 09:12 AM
WITH ROOM TO SPARE!!!!!!.............:monkey1














mornin' flosi.........:wave

Yes, I plan to wear my fat pants. :lecture

Morning Barry! :wave

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SoNjj6j4sc8/T3nysUHUBMI/AAAAAAAAB-k/-Ei1qpn3T9k/s1600/O+Barry.jpg

devilof76
07-12-2012, 09:16 AM
Or the people who are pointing out how much Vader cost us 3 years ago. This is a fantastic time and place to discuss inflation.

Inflation is great. I love talking about it almost as much as I like hearing about it.

Maybe we can talk about cancer too. You know, just for fun.

pixletwin
07-12-2012, 09:17 AM
Can we throw in a youtube video of someone drowning lil' cute puppies too? :pray:

barryo
07-12-2012, 09:17 AM
Yes, I plan to wear my fat pants. :lecture

Morning Barry! :wave

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SoNjj6j4sc8/T3nysUHUBMI/AAAAAAAAB-k/-Ei1qpn3T9k/s1600/O+Barry.jpg

:lol

funny you posted that pic of barryo...........that's where my board name came from...........an engineer at my work was a huge wrestling fan & always referred to me as barryo so it stuck.


"from the fabulous city of las vagas.........BARRYOOOOOOOO" ....:lol

devilof76
07-12-2012, 09:19 AM
Can we throw in a youtube video of someone drowning lil' cute puppies too? :pray:

Now it's a party. :rock

Rorywan
07-12-2012, 09:23 AM
Please SS get the bloody helmet right. Those shots look awful IMO.
Hopefully it has been thrown together for CC but I have a bad fee,ing about this.

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 09:23 AM
:lol

funny you posted that pic of barryo...........that's where my board name came from...........an engineer at my work was a huge wrestling fan & always referred to me as barryo so it stuck.


"from the fabulous city of las vagas.........BARRYOOOOOOOO" ....:lol

I've searched for photos of him before but never found a thing, so I was super hyped when I just found this shot with the old WWF art. :lol

I really didn't even know that was behind your username?? I just figured your last name was Orton or something. :lol

pixletwin
07-12-2012, 09:23 AM
Please SS get the bloody helmet right. Those shots look awful IMO.
Hopefully it has been thrown together for CC but I have a bad fee,ing about this.


Looks fine to me.

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 09:25 AM
I was really hoping for a wired cape. :(

barryo
07-12-2012, 09:28 AM
I've searched for photos of him before but never found a thing, so I was super hyped when I just found this shot with the old WWF art. :lol

I really didn't even know that was behind your username??I just figured your last name was Orton or something :lol

you are an accidental clairvoyant flosi........:lecture

Matt S
07-12-2012, 09:37 AM
I was really hoping for a wired cape. :(

Me too - this needs a lot of work...anyone going to SDCC? Please ask them why they can't do Vader justice?

krieg-der-sterne
07-12-2012, 09:55 AM
please work on the helmet,the rest looks fine,please,please:pray::pray::pray::pray:please,p lease

kl241
07-12-2012, 09:59 AM
Me too - this needs a lot of work...anyone going to SDCC? Please ask them why they can't do Vader justice?

Well, there's always hope that Hot Toys will do it justice about 6 years from now. :dunno

krieg-der-sterne
07-12-2012, 10:03 AM
Well, there's always hope that Hot Toys will do it justice about 6 years from now. :dunno

yeah,right and 200$ more expensive by then.....:gah:

devilof76
07-12-2012, 10:05 AM
Well, there's always hope that Hot Toys will do it justice about 6 years from now. :dunno

Probably more like 10.

kl241
07-12-2012, 10:05 AM
yeah,right and 200$ more expensive by then.....:gah:

I'd pay $200 more for an ESB Vader that looked right. :monkey1

Gipetto0812
07-12-2012, 10:07 AM
From Figures.com

http://www.figures.com/gallery/data/759/medium/sideshow_DYEH_0043.jpg

http://www.figures.com/gallery/data/759/medium/sideshow_DYEH_0042.jpg

abake
07-12-2012, 10:15 AM
Is that just the ANH head on the new body?
Maybe they didn't have the reveal ready so they just slapped the old head on this one.

krieg-der-sterne
07-12-2012, 10:20 AM
Is that just the ANH head on the new body?
Maybe they didn't have the reveal ready so they just slapped the old head on this one.
well ,the helmet looks not new...:thud:

anaking13
07-12-2012, 10:29 AM
Problem on the helmet and the dome, it looks like the version ANH. These are the pictures of ESB or ROTJ version? The clips of the cape I'm confused also. This new Vader SSC must reach perfection I think.

Invictus Sol
07-12-2012, 10:32 AM
I like him and am looking forward to picking him up, maybe even two for different displays.

I also would bother judging this too harshly, either, as it's obviously a thrown together proto just for SDCC display. No way would Sideshow go for such a simple display of Vader if this was the final prototype. They'd show him with all the accessories, plus the helmets disassembled and the face sculpt. People need to get a bit more imagination and common sense. Kinda reminds me of the Snowtrooper thread. :mad: As I once foretold, once everyone saw the E-Web in context of a display, all of a sudden it's a must-have instead of being an example of Sideshow gouging the defenseless collector. *shakes head in disappointment*

krieg-der-sterne
07-12-2012, 10:36 AM
I like him and am looking forward to picking him up, maybe even two for different displays.

I also would bother judging this too harshly, either, as it's obviously a thrown together proto just for SDCC display. No way would Sideshow go for such a simple display of Vader if this was the final prototype. They'd show him with all the accessories, plus the helmets disassembled and the face sculpt. People need to get a bit more imagination and common sense. Kinda reminds me of the Snowtrooper thread. :mad As I once foretold, once everyone saw the E-Web in context of a display, all of a sudden it's a must-have instead of being an example of Sideshow gouging the defenseless collector. *shakes head in disappointment*

just hoping they improve the helmet,so it does look much better then the first one,but like you said,probably just fixed up for SDCC

Invictus Sol
07-12-2012, 10:57 AM
Yeah, I just can't see them displaying the final prototype without accessories and the helmets to show off. Totally agree that they shouldn't just re-release the old Vader without improvement, btw, but way too early to even worry about that.

Mad Old Lu
07-12-2012, 11:03 AM
The leather suit looks new: looks shinier and maybe a little looser.


http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1053_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1056_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1052_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1055_RESIZED.jpg
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1057_RESIZED.jpg

Yup.

Matt S
07-12-2012, 11:06 AM
That really does look like the ANH head; needs a lot of work. While release pics of a WIP?

zeiss
07-12-2012, 11:08 AM
So far this is disappointing. However, it may look better at different angles and with some futzing. All the photos seem to be taken at a similar angle. One this is for sure though, the chest armor and shoulder bells are totally inaccurate. Which is amazing since there is a wealth of resources out there showing how they are supposed to look.

I don't know if I agree about the assumption that Sideshow just threw something together for the Con. It doesn't make sense to do so and I can't think of a precedent for doing so. Unfortunately, I also can't think of a time in which Sideshow made significant modifications to a figure after the initial unveiling. Hot Toys does it all the time but Sideshow doesn't (which irritates me). As such, the figure on display is very likely to be the one we will be getting.

Mad Old Lu
07-12-2012, 11:13 AM
So far this is disappointing. However, it may look better at different angles and with some futzing. All the photos seem to be taken at a similar angle. One this is for sure though, the chest armor and shoulder bells are totally inaccurate. Which is amazing since there is a wealth of resources out there showing how they are supposed to look.

I don't know if I agree about the assumption that Sideshow just threw something together for the Con. It doesn't make sense to do so and I can't think of a precedent for doing so. Unfortunately, I also can't think of a time in which Sideshow made significant modifications to a figure after the initial unveiling. Hot Toys does it all the time but Sideshow doesn't (which irritates me). As such, the figure on display is very likely to be the one we will be getting.

I agree. I'm thinking, if anything, the changes will be for the worse. If this is only the prototype (most likely) and not a production piece, then I can't think of an instance where the production piece was better than the proto.

krieg-der-sterne
07-12-2012, 11:14 AM
even the frontpart of the boots looks wrong!

galactiboy
07-12-2012, 11:16 AM
So are we sure this doesn't light up? It really looks like there is a slight haze around the green of the belt.

Crap, I hope they didn't paint in a light haze like the did with Galactus and all the orange lava effects on Vader and Sauron :lol

http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1056_RESIZED.jpg

Darth Cruel
07-12-2012, 11:18 AM
you are an accidental clairvoyant flosi........:lecture

He is an "OT" like Tom Cruise.

Invictus Sol
07-12-2012, 11:19 AM
Those really do look like they're lit-up. Hmmmm.

galactiboy
07-12-2012, 11:20 AM
Those really do look like they're lit-up. Hmmmm.

I know right :huh

Invictus Sol
07-12-2012, 11:25 AM
I agree. I'm thinking, if anything, the changes will be for the worse. If this is only the prototype (most likely) and not a production piece, then I can't think of an instance where the production piece was better than the proto.
What about Grievous, though? Seems like what they showed last year was likely more of a statue than a working, posable figure, or at least was clearly not ready for production. Dunno, just throwing it out there.



I know right :huh
That would be crazy if they did go with the overspray, though, for such a small detail. :lol

Mad Old Lu
07-12-2012, 11:27 AM
Well, we haven't seen hide nor hair of Grievous since then. So who knows what the final piece will look like! :dunno

Invictus Sol
07-12-2012, 11:31 AM
Well, we haven't seen hide nor hair of Grievous since then. So who knows what the final piece will look like! :dunno
Yeah, just meant that Grievous seems to have been slapped together for SDCC, so it provides a possible precedent for this Vader just being a rough proto. If this is the final proto, still seems very odd to me that they would not display the multi-part helmets in much more detail.

Mad Old Lu
07-12-2012, 11:32 AM
Ah, I getcha! Well, I certainly hope this Vader does not go the way of Grievous, never to be heard from again!

Maglor
07-12-2012, 11:34 AM
Why, he's awesome. :dunno

'Cos I prefer the ROTJ look, and I fully expect HT to make one at some point.


Also, I could have sold the ANH Vader for over $500 for a while there. It looks like that sip has already sailed. :(

zeiss
07-12-2012, 11:48 AM
Yeah, just meant that Grievous seems to have been slapped together for SDCC, so it provides a possible precedent for this Vader just being a rough proto. If this is the final proto, still seems very odd to me that they would not display the multi-part helmets in much more detail.

While I would love for that to be the case with Vader, I suspect the reason we haven't seen Grievous is that he was such an experimental figure for Sideshow and they didn't have it al figured out. On the other hand, Vader is a very traditional type of figure. It is hard to believe they would show off a figure without having sculpted the armor and helmet which are the most important parts of the suit. More than likely, what we are seeing are new armor pieces and a new helmet...and judging by Sideshow's history they will be the final versions. I really hope I am wrong though.

cokebabies
07-12-2012, 11:56 AM
It looks like that sip has already sailed. :(

Just take another one, then. :drink :chug

Invictus Sol
07-12-2012, 12:08 PM
While I would love for that to be the case with Vader, I suspect the reason we haven't seen Grievous is that he was such an experimental figure for Sideshow and they didn't have it al figured out. On the other hand, Vader is a very traditional type of figure. It is hard to believe they would show off a figure without having sculpted the armor and helmet which are the most important parts of the suit. More than likely, what we are seeing are new armor pieces and a new helmet...and judging by Sideshow's history they will be the final versions. I really hope I am wrong though.
Good points, zeiss. Will be interesting to see how this develops.

jkno
07-12-2012, 01:14 PM
I'm far from a Vader specialist, but there are some things that I don't like about this Vader...

Boba Ben
07-12-2012, 01:19 PM
Probably more like 10.

I wonder if Hot Toys will still exist in 10 years. (This is not intended to incite a flame war)

cokebabies
07-12-2012, 02:03 PM
I wonder if Hot Toys will still exist in 10 years. (This is not intended to incite a flame war)

DX 74 - The Dark Knight - Joker 14.0 - MSRP $3,750

kl241
07-12-2012, 02:18 PM
I wonder if Hot Toys will still exist in 10 years. (This is not intended to incite a flame war)

I wonder how many of us will be bankrupt in 10 years. :wave

Boba Ben
07-12-2012, 02:54 PM
I wonder how many of us will be bankrupt in 10 years. :wave

Quite a few the way some seem to pre-order every new Hot Toys and PF all willy nilly without hesitation.

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 03:36 PM
I can already say that this looks like the best 1/6th scale Vader ever made. :dunno

pixletwin
07-12-2012, 03:37 PM
I can already say that this looks like the best 1/6th scale Vader ever made. :dunno

:goodpost::exactly:

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 03:39 PM
I could be wrong but I think the boots might be fabric?

Indiana
07-12-2012, 03:39 PM
The suit looks really accurate for ESB and ROTJ. And the chest-piece looks great.
That is clearly the reveal helmet... you can see the slight separation between the tusks and the top grill, and you can slightly see the metal underneath the helmet. The grill on the underside of the mask could be a little bigger, but I think it looks fantastic. I am totally stoked for this figure!!!! :yess::panic::panic:

Invictus Sol
07-12-2012, 03:48 PM
I can already say that this looks like the best 1/6th scale Vader ever made. :dunno
Whatever the inaccuracies (haven't noticed as I've never really studied Vader's costume -- aside from the obvious differences between the ANH and ESB/ROTJ versions), it's still way better than the Medi, IMO. Looks more menacing and feels more like 'Vader' to me. Just surprised that they didn't display all the details, like his chopped off hand and the helmets. Really looking forward to seeing Vader in more detail when he goes up for pre-order (or maybe Sideshow will show more in the next couple of days?).

SilentSurfer
07-12-2012, 03:50 PM
I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but I just noticed something wrong with this Vader. I painted almost all of the parts for this except the fully built helmet and the shoulder armor. Those parts weren't ready when I painted the rest, like the reveal helmet. But now that I see it fully built up I see that his shoulder armor is WRONG! They should be BLACK, not gray! The prequel shoulder armor was gray, but not Empire/Jedi.

This kind of thing really frustrates me.:mad:

SilentSurfer
07-12-2012, 03:53 PM
So are we sure this doesn't light up? It really looks like there is a slight haze around the green of the belt.

Crap, I hope they didn't paint in a light haze like the did with Galactus and all the orange lava effects on Vader and Sauron :lol

http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/6362/medium/STV_1056_RESIZED.jpg

Sorry, I painted it like that. Doesn't light up (as far as I know).

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 03:53 PM
Whatever the inaccuracies (haven't noticed as I've never really studied Vader's costume -- aside from the obvious differences between the ANH and ESB/ROTJ versions), it's still way better than the Medi, IMO. Looks more menacing and feels more like 'Vader' to me. Just surprised that they didn't display all the details, like his chopped off hand and the helmets. Really looking forward to seeing Vader in more detail when he goes up for pre-order (or maybe Sideshow will show more in the next couple of days?).

I'd say a couple months.


I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but I just noticed something wrong with this Vader. I painted almost all of the parts for this except the fully built helmet and the shoulder armor. Those parts weren't ready when I painted the rest, like the reveal helmet. But now that I see it fully built up I see that his shoulder armor is WRONG! They should be BLACK, not gray! The prequel shoulder armor was gray, but not Empire/Jedi.

This kind of thing really frustrates me.:mad:

Someone mentioned it... I really hope they fix that. Does SS depend upon painters, such as yourself, to do all the research of source material or do they provide, specify how those details should be handled?

MaulFan
07-12-2012, 03:53 PM
The shoulder armor looks like the ANH armor just glossed.

I am starting to think this may be a cobbled prototype for the sake of having it out there, might also explain why there was so much shadow in the teaser, and perhaps they want to get some feedback on things from folks before unveiling the full protoptype.

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 03:54 PM
Sorry, I painted it like that. Doesn't light up (as far as I know).

Is that overspray or just light catching it?

MaulFan
07-12-2012, 03:54 PM
Sorry, I painted it like that. Doesn't light up (as far as I know).

Good job, and even the factory can pull off the effect, I was amazed by ANH Vader how his buttons are just paint but done in a way that in the right lighting, they look lit up, it's really cool.

FLOSI
07-12-2012, 03:55 PM
The shoulder armor looks like the ANH armor just glossed.

I am starting to think this may be a cobbled prototype for the sake of having it out there, might also explain why there was so much shadow in the teaser, and perhaps they want to get some feedback on things from folks before unveiling the full protoptype.

I've been thinking the same... Some parts are new, some are rehash. The TBD price makes me think we're a few months away, so I'm sure there's more work to be done.

Invictus Sol
07-12-2012, 03:56 PM
This kind of thing really frustrates me.:mad:
Ah, man, can't even imagine how annoying that must be when it was literally one of two parts you didn't paint. Any chance that can be fixed before production, or is it too late? Guess it would be a simple paint fix, too, for those that it would bother.

kl241
07-12-2012, 03:57 PM
The shoulder armor looks like the ANH armor just glossed.

I am starting to think this may be a cobbled prototype for the sake of having it out there, might also explain why there was so much shadow in the teaser, and perhaps they want to get some feedback on things from folks before unveiling the full protoptype.

Surely they would have known if they cobbled together a hackneyed ANH Vader that the fans would nitpick it to pieces and cry foul. Why even bother? If you don't have something to show (like Grievous) then don't even try to Con ('ja get it?) us with a makeshift prototype.

MaulFan
07-12-2012, 03:57 PM
I've been thinking the same... Some parts are new, some are rehash. The TBD price makes me think we're a few months away, so I'm sure there's more work to be done.

In some of the photos, the height doesn't really seem like anything got changed. Also, as has been mentioned, you would think if this was a fully working figured, the pieces of the helmet would be on the display surface with the Anakin portrati showing, plus showing off how they're doing ESB and ROTJ helmet pieces.

The thing I take away from this display piece is the cape and robe look to be of a nicer material this time around, maybe something with a little weight to it.

SilentSurfer
07-12-2012, 03:59 PM
Someone mentioned it... I really hope they fix that. Does SS depend upon painters, such as yourself, to do all the research of source material or do they provide, specify how those details should be handled?

They usually have some references, but mostly the same you can find by doing good Google-Fu. Most of my Vader refs were stuff I found.


Is that overspray or just light catching it?

It was my deliberate attempt to create a light glow effect, but essentially it is the same as a controlled overspray.

pixletwin
07-12-2012, 03:59 PM
Sorry, I painted it like that. Doesn't light up (as far as I know).

I actually quite like the effect too.

MaulFan
07-12-2012, 03:59 PM
Surely they would have known if they cobbled together a hackneyed ANH Vader that the fans would nitpick it to pieces and cry foul. Why even bother? If you don't have something to show (like Grievous) then don't even try to Con ('ja get it?) us with a makeshift prototype.

Well you hit the nail on the head, they brought Grievous even though he was nothing more than a statue. It's like they can't get on track to have complete pieces for the show or something, or think it's smart to show off work that's not finished. I'm sure they felt a need to start showing some more non-Clone stuff again, plus with Boba Fett shipping, doesn't hurt to show off that a Vader is coming that could be a companion to him, and DX Luke from HT is still coming.

Invictus Sol
07-12-2012, 04:01 PM
It was my deliberate attempt to create a light glow effect, but essentially it is the same as a controlled overspray.
Cool, never would've guessed that anyone would've gone to the trouble to overspray on such a small detail on a 1:6 figure. Well done, Silent. That picture really had me believing there was an actual light source there.

SilentSurfer
07-12-2012, 04:02 PM
I can't say with 100% confidence that this has no rehash parts, but I do know that all the parts needed to be painted, and I believe they are all new. The helmet for sure is all new, and I'm pretty sure the one on display IS the fully built version. I can't see evidence that it comes apart where I know it does. This helmet is definitely superior to the old one, most specifically in its more correct larger size, which is evident in the pics.

The gloves are all new obviously because the pattern is different, as well as poses.

SilentSurfer
07-12-2012, 04:05 PM
Cool, never would've guessed that anyone would've gone to the trouble to overspray on such a small detail on a 1:6 figure. Well done, Silent. That picture really had me believing there was an actual light source there.

Mission accomplished. Thanks.

Matt S
07-12-2012, 04:41 PM
That dome still looks too short or whatnot to these eyes! I am sure it'll look great in hand as they always seem to do with little adjustments

gibby
07-12-2012, 04:54 PM
It was my deliberate attempt to create a light glow effect, but essentially it is the same as a controlled overspray.

Yeah, thanks btw....my wife said you painted the lights to look on, so now I owe her a fancy pants dinner. :lol:yess:

Seriously, though, awesome work as always, SS!!! :clap

SilentSurfer
07-12-2012, 05:04 PM
:lol Awesome. She deserves it.

VASith
07-12-2012, 05:06 PM
Yeah, thanks btw....my wife said you painted the lights to look on, so now I owe her a fancy pants dinner. :lol:yess:

Seriously, though, awesome work as always, SS!!! :clap

I vote you take her to aviary first for cocktails then to Alinea for dinner. Look them up. :wave

gibby
07-12-2012, 05:09 PM
I vote you take her to aviary first for cocktails then to Alinea for dinner. Look them up. :wave

She wants Lobster from Gibsons.

Cha ching!!! :lol

Wor-Gar
07-12-2012, 05:15 PM
I'm disappointed with what I've seen so far of this Vader. Particularly the robe and cape. It doesn't hang well, and it's too long -- just doesn't look like it's been tailored in any way. Sloppy.

drjedisith
07-12-2012, 05:59 PM
cmon sideshow. look at the awesome baroness, dc ..get vader and obi right! yew cen deew it!

Maglor
07-12-2012, 08:24 PM
Just take another one, then. :drink :chug

I took me a second to figure out what the hell you were talking about. :lol :chug





I can already say that this looks like the best 1/6th scale Vader ever made. :dunno

What's the word on whether this is actually 1/6. Is he still a giant like the ANH figure?




Sorry, I painted it like that. Doesn't light up (as far as I know).

Well, that answers that. :)

devilof76
07-12-2012, 08:46 PM
You can tell how tall/in scale he is by using the ruler standing next to him in the display.

Maglor
07-12-2012, 08:53 PM
You actually had me going back looking for rulers...

Kuat of Kuat
07-12-2012, 09:10 PM
He looks great to me. Nice and menacing.

I'm no student of the Vader suit so any errors are going over my head.

Presuming they use the same materials as the ANH, is the suit itself good quality? That is, a soft pliable pleather, rather than the peelable Medicom/Hasbro-style?

Searching Google I saw no issues with the ANH, but plenty with the Medicom, so my guess is Sideshow did something right.

Kuat of Kuat
07-12-2012, 10:14 PM
I saw 2 Sideshow employees today at Comic-Con take out of the display case this Vader. I asked one: Where are you putting it now? And he replied: We might put it away. I then asked: Why? Too many complaints about the helmet? He then smiled and said "Yep".
True story.
:lol

Not sure if serious...

DarthAlias
07-12-2012, 10:17 PM
I saw this today at SDCC and it looks like a revised version of ANH. Just updated. Parts aren't recycled but definitely an updated sculpt. Main new feature is pleather gloves, which is a nice touch. Wasn't too impressed over all.

SilentSurfer
07-13-2012, 12:23 AM
Gloves aren't pleather. That's paint on a really good sculpt. I was very impressed with the sculpting of them when I painted them. Very realistic texture.

If what Commtech says is true, and I have no reason to doubt him, that's actually a good sign. Sure Sideshow is probably annoyed by all of the _____ing so much of their stuff is getting, but at the same time, it's obvious they are listening and caring what we Freaks think, even if they don't like to hear it. They really seem to want to give us the best they've got these days, even if it means trying again.

I admire that. I hope that continues. It's certainly what made Hot Toys and Enterbay great in a big hurry.

Wanderer
07-13-2012, 12:54 AM
I've already said it, but it's just those pics.
It looks fine in Crawford's pic.

www.mwctoys.com


http://www.mwctoys.com/sdcc2012/images/sdcc2012_sideshow_starwars_8.jpg

That looks beautiful. Although I'm happy with my Medi version, it'll be nice to have an actual properly sized version to go with DX Luke :) EXCITED :yess:

devilof76
07-13-2012, 01:40 AM
If what Commtech says is true, and I have no reason to doubt him, that's actually a good sign. Sure Sideshow is probably annoyed by all of the _____ing so much of their stuff is getting, but at the same time, it's obvious they are listening and caring what we Freaks think, even if they don't like to hear it.

For all the praise they received when the prototype of the first Vader was shown, to come back with a helmet that strongly resembles the compromised production version of the same, I think they should take it to heart.

CaptnRex
07-13-2012, 02:01 AM
I'll wait for more pics. I can't see an issue with the helmet at the moment in these pics, not saying there isn't.

I've grown up with Star Wars and Vader since I was a kid like many here but my attention to detail must be bad because I like the look of this figure.:)

krieg-der-sterne
07-13-2012, 02:29 AM
For all the praise they received when the prototype of the first Vader was shown, to come back with a helmet that strongly resembles the compromised production version of the same, I think they should take it to heart.

damned sure they should!!!i can not believe that they try to give us another bad vader helmet after the first one clearly wasnt up to par!!
should be easier to fix that for some professional builders to correct that!
if we can see it,why cant they??:dunno

devilof76
07-13-2012, 03:55 AM
I don't know. But I would never characterize it as something "they try to give us". They are making the attempt to offer you a Darth Vader figure. If their best is not good enough for you, indignation won't change a thing.

VintijDroidGutzz
07-13-2012, 05:29 AM
I'll wait for more pics. I can't see an issue with the helmet at the moment in these pics, not saying there isn't.

I've grown up with Star Wars and Vader since I was a kid like many here but my attention to detail must be bad because I like the look of this figure.:)
Just on the face of that last pic there, the dome isn't aligned properly with the eyes anyway.. :dunno

not that vibed on this SSC Vader - let alone the last one.

HT - you're my only hope. :pray: :lol

jkno
07-13-2012, 05:41 AM
I so wish Sideshow's best to be indeed the best Vader out there. But unfortunately that won't happen to soon. :(

devilof76
07-13-2012, 05:48 AM
I just wish they were a bit more enthusiastic about showing us what they have to offer. None of what makes this Vader distinct is on display. Not so much as an ignited lightsaber. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that we were all pretty excited to see him, and now that the time has come, it doesn't feel like they're trying too hard to impress.

I'm not even going to consider this a preview. I'll have an opinion when they're actually ready.

jkno
07-13-2012, 05:54 AM
I know what you mean my friend!

Matt S
07-13-2012, 06:06 AM
My one main beef is a SIMPLE fix: the DOME is simply too small looking. WHY is a proper sized DOME soo much of a challenge?

T.E.D
07-13-2012, 06:23 AM
cooltoyreview pics:

http://i45.tinypic.com/f048m.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/wilphh.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/3539n36.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/91hzzt.jpg

VintijDroidGutzz
07-13-2012, 06:26 AM
Oh....... :monkey1

galactiboy
07-13-2012, 06:26 AM
Well clearly a thrown together item given we can see some white tissue paper or goo holding him together under the armor. I think we can all avoid panicking until we see more developed photos.

http://i47.tinypic.com/91hzzt.jpg



BTW, Nathan great job on the "lighting" effect. You had me fooled :clap

Weezer
07-13-2012, 06:33 AM
I'm guessing that's a painted/faux glow on the belt box lights, means the chest plate and belt boxes will not lit?

Sorry if this has already been discussed.

galactiboy
07-13-2012, 06:52 AM
Yep, Silent Surfer confirmed he's the one that painted the box and he used a faux glow effect.

devilof76
07-13-2012, 07:06 AM
All the details are great.

He just needs a biger hat.

Maglor
07-13-2012, 07:19 AM
Gloves aren't pleather. That's paint on a really good sculpt. I was very impressed with the sculpting of them when I painted them. Very realistic texture.



The gloves do look incredible.




For all the praise they received when the prototype of the first Vader was shown, to come back with a helmet that strongly resembles the compromised production version of the same, I think they should take it to heart.

I'm holding my ANH head up next to the screen and it looks completely identical to this helmet (except the new tusks match). So whatever's wrong with the one is wrong with the other.

galactiboy
07-13-2012, 07:20 AM
I seem to remember it being stated by Sideshow it was all new pieces. So it's possible this is just a stand in head with repainted eyes and tusks) like some are suggesting.

MaulFan
07-13-2012, 07:24 AM
Noticed another detail missing, the cape doesn't have the collar material, and since even the ANH figure had it so I'm guessing more this is just an unfinished cape. At least it's more open aroun the neck as it should be.

Matt S
07-13-2012, 07:29 AM
I seem to remember it being stated by Sideshow it was all new pieces. So it's possible this is just a stand in head with repainted eyes and tusks) like some are suggesting.

Thats what it really looks like, but the question is: why not display this piece with the full reveal? Show as much 'new' to it as you can? Why cause unnecessary worry? For all the talent on the Sideshow team, they make some really dumb decisions at times....

galactiboy
07-13-2012, 07:31 AM
That I cannot explain... maybe someone forgot to bring the correct helmet :lol :huh

MaulFan
07-13-2012, 07:31 AM
Thats what it really looks like, but the question is: why not display this piece with the full reveal? Show as much 'new' to it as you can? Why cause unnecessary worry? For all the talent on the Sideshow team, they make some really dumb decisions at times....

Same reason for showing a figure off that's not even close to a functional prototype (Grievous) :cuckoo:

Matt S
07-13-2012, 07:36 AM
Same reason for showing a figure off that's not even close to a functional prototype (Grievous) :cuckoo:
Good call, but speaking for myself, that's a lot more forgivable on a piece that requires 100% new tooling; with a piece like Vader, people just expect that things like a helmet and dome size to be done right -especially on version 2 of the character. I mean, a Vader helmet and dome sounds easier to pull off than a full on Grievous

6Series
07-13-2012, 07:41 AM
What the..., I hope PO for this one isn't so soon! Must get this one!

Matt S
07-13-2012, 07:44 AM
Anyone want to guess what an EX could be this time? Don't think they do another exclusive glove...

If it were up to me, I'd do something super awesome, like a second head portrait with alternative expression. We've seen the one angry one; do another like at the end of ROTJ. Now, that would be an item worthy of an EX

MaulFan
07-13-2012, 07:51 AM
Good call, but speaking for myself, that's a lot more forgivable on a piece that requires 100% new tooling; with a piece like Vader, people just expect that things like a helmet and dome size to be done right -especially on version 2 of the character. I mean, a Vader helmet and dome sounds easier to pull off than a full on Grievous

Well I'm more making a statement towards putting out a representation for a figure that you don't even have a proper prototype for. Grievous had no articulation yet, he should have been a production peek, not an SDCC centerpiece, and now Vader's a 1/6 Star Wars highlight but it looks like a rushed stand in for an eventual figure. Why put these things out only to upset customers, people are losing faith in getting Grievous, it's never taken over a year from seeing a piece at the booth to getting a preorder, and now, Vader may be getting grief for details that will not be on the final figure but are here for public view. Makes no sense, I can't see what is the gain Sideshow sees when they make the call to do these things.

pixletwin
07-13-2012, 07:57 AM
Well I'm more making a statement towards putting out a representation for a figure that you don't even have a proper prototype for. Grievous had no articulation yet, he should have been a production peek, not an SDCC centerpiece, and now Vader's a 1/6 Star Wars highlight but it looks like a rushed stand in for an eventual figure. Why put these things out only to upset customers, people are losing faith in getting Grievous, it's never taken over a year from seeing a piece at the booth to getting a preorder, and now, Vader may be getting grief for details that will not be on the final figure but are here for public view. Makes no sense, I can't see what is the gain Sideshow sees when they make the call to do these things.

I feel like they don't care about our opinions as much anymore... or else they think a lot less about them than they used to.

Matt S
07-13-2012, 08:00 AM
Makes no sense, I can't see what is the gain Sideshow sees when they make the call to do these things.

I agree....I hope they don't create some kind of artificial deadline for themselves. Personally, we've waited this long, just show it off when its good and ready!

FLOSI
07-13-2012, 08:04 AM
I really think you guys should wait for proper prototype photos before passing judgement on this figure... Saying it's "Just like the ANH version" is in no way accurate.

devilof76
07-13-2012, 08:07 AM
So we're not allowed to get excited about the awesome parts??? :(

abake
07-13-2012, 08:15 AM
cooltoyreview pics:

http://i45.tinypic.com/f048m.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/wilphh.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/3539n36.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/91hzzt.jpg

The whole face/helmet part looks identical to the ANH version, including the long bit at the front of the neck that makes it so hard to tilt the head forward.
This certainly looks like a cobbled together figure and not the prototype.
Will wait for final production pics before passing judgement, but this does not look like an "ultimate" figure to me. Yet.

devilof76
07-13-2012, 08:19 AM
There isn't even a seam in the mask. I'd say that's exactly what's up.

FLOSI
07-13-2012, 08:21 AM
No, everyone is allowed to get excited about the awesome parts and to complain about what they feel is off but I just think passing judgment on the figure as a whole should probably wait, that's all... As someone who has scrutinized and modded the ANH Vader dome over and over it's pretty obvious that this is a different piece, I think the issue is that it's not quite sitting low enough on his head.

Matt S
07-13-2012, 08:23 AM
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/Original-ESB-Vader-Stormtroopers.jpghttp://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/f048m.jpg

Don't tell me that dome size and placement on helmet makes this the 'ultimate' vader. Fix that, and we are in business more than not! Look how high on his head the dome sits and how far from his shoulders the dome comes...looks really, really off.

We should not be able to see under the dome and past the room like we do in the 1:6 pic

devilof76
07-13-2012, 08:23 AM
As someone who has scrutinized and modded the ANH Vader dome over and over it's pretty obvious that this is a different piece, I think the issue is that it's not quite sitting low enough on his head.

I can see that what the ANH dome had for a widow's peak is gone, but the mask has no lines for separating. The dome does sit high, but that front shot makes it look like it'll still be too short.

Can modding make the ANH dome look long enough in the back?

Too Much Garlic
07-13-2012, 08:25 AM
The leather suit looks better than the last attempt, but it is still way too stiff and rigid looking. The inherent wrinkling of the leather body suit is what makes the look and I doubt that will be achieved with this thick looking pleather. If they used a thinner material and wrinkled it up some more, then it would be much better to emulate the full scale look. The capes are also too heavy and clunky and they need to find a material that hangs and folds better - again, too stiff.

Lowering the dome in the back will probably not fix that it is regrettably undersized and shaped wrong.

Belt boxes and belt buckle is too small too as well as the chest armor and bells. There are very specific dimensions to all these pieces and it just doesn't look like they were scaled down correctly.

However, the body definitely looks to be more proportional and giving the overall figure the right look.

The gloves look really nice... just wondering about the hand pose of that raised arm, very unnatural way the fingers are positioned.

MaulFan
07-13-2012, 08:25 AM
The dome would look better if it was like 25% bigger.

Matt S
07-13-2012, 08:27 AM
The dome would look better if it was like 25% bigger.

Agreed

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devilof76
07-13-2012, 08:29 AM
The gloves look really nice... just wondering about the hand pose of that raised arm, very unnatural way the fingers are positioned.

That hand is awesome.

Matt S
07-13-2012, 08:30 AM
That hand is awesome.

Yeah it is - he's choking out one of the Admirals as he stands there...lol

pixletwin
07-13-2012, 08:32 AM
That hand is awesome.

Agreed. It was the only feature of the Vader display at SDCC that impressed me.

Too Much Garlic
07-13-2012, 08:37 AM
Making the dome bigger without even altering shape would fix some of the issues... but if it had to be resculpted anyway, they might as well try and get the other issues besides size right too.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Kits/Vader/f048m.jpg

VintijDroidGutzz
07-13-2012, 08:37 AM
The leather suit looks better than the last attempt, but it is still way too stiff and rigid looking. The inherent wrinkling of the leather body suit is what makes the look and I doubt that will be achieved with this thick looking pleather. If they used a thinner material and wrinkled it up some more, then it would be much better to emulate the full scale look. The capes are also too heavy and clunky and they need to find a material that hangs and folds better - again, too stiff.

Lowering the dome in the back will probably not fix that it is regrettably undersized and shaped wrong.

Belt boxes and belt buckle is too small too as well as the chest armor and bells. There are very specific dimensions to all these pieces and it just doesn't look like they were scaled down correctly.

However, the body definitely looks to be more proportional and giving the overall figure the right look.

The gloves look really nice... just wondering about the hand pose of that raised arm, very unnatural way the fingers are positioned.
Great post dude! :hi5:

As mentioned already, if this is cobbled together as a placeholder or whatever - why even bother to show it? Long time fans of the OT that know Vader's look at a glance, know when stuff doesn't look right.. pretty much immediately. :lol

To be fair though, scaling everything down doesn't always work out as intended - I can imagine, but still.. :dunno

Matt S
07-13-2012, 08:42 AM
Nice pic comparison, Too Much Garlic (never!!), that is a start, but still looks a smudge too high on his head

Too Much Garlic
07-13-2012, 08:45 AM
To be fair though, scaling everything down doesn't always work out as intended - I can imagine, but still.. :dunno
Actually. Worked pretty well for me so far on my own project.

Too Much Garlic
07-13-2012, 08:46 AM
Nice pic comparison, Too Much Garlic (never!!), that is a start, but still looks a smudge too high on his head

Not for ESB. There it should sit just above the eyebrows, barely touching them with the lower edge of the dome. For RotJ it should sit a little higher, but maybe not as high as on the figure.

Matt S
07-13-2012, 08:53 AM
Not for ESB. There it should sit just above the eyebrows, barely touching them with the lower edge of the dome. For RotJ it should sit a little higher, but maybe not as high as on the figure.

Fair enough!

FLOSI
07-13-2012, 08:56 AM
Making the dome bigger without even altering shape would fix some of the issues... but if it had to be resculpted anyway, they might as well try and get the other issues besides size right too.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Kits/Vader/f048m.jpg

:( God dammit... That does look a lot better.

Too Much Garlic
07-13-2012, 08:57 AM
Well, the issue currently is also the dome placement. It is tilting too much forward at the top, pulling the rear up, so my comparison isn't really perfect. Sure, it would probably help to make the dome a little larger, but it needs to be tilting further back.

Currently it has the Don Post and Rubies look to it.

Deak Starkiller
07-13-2012, 08:57 AM
I dunno guys, looks good to me. The widow's peak looks slightly off and the cape will be replaced but other than that it looks like Darth Vader.

FLOSI
07-13-2012, 09:00 AM
Well, the issue currently is also the dome placement. It is tilting too much forward at the top, pulling the rear up, so my comparison isn't really perfect. Sure, it would probably help to make the dome a little larger, but it needs to be tilting further back.

Currently it has the Don Post and Rubies look to it.

That's how I felt as well. I thought the dome issue was with it sitting too high up on the back of the head... It's really hard to tell at this point.:gah:

Too Much Garlic
07-13-2012, 09:03 AM
Well, it is definitely undersized, that much is clear. It has to be remembered that to the normal sized person, the dome is HUGE.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x177/NoHumorMan/Vader/Unsorted-023.jpg

It just currently looks like they married a Don Post child's helmet dome with a full scale face mask.

VintijDroidGutzz
07-13-2012, 09:06 AM
Actually. Worked pretty well for me so far on my own project.
Got any pics to share? :)

Too Much Garlic
07-13-2012, 09:08 AM
Got any pics to share? :)

Sorry, not yet. And really don't want to interfere with the Sideshow offering. Will post once I'm a lot further.

Kuat of Kuat
07-13-2012, 09:11 AM
That pic made me think of this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_M3mQddph2cI/R_NjY-L57rI/AAAAAAAAAlo/PlMiqZhNhGo/s1600/spaceballs3.jpg

A little while ago I had another look at my Hasbro talking Vader, just to assure myself that whatever this mock-up looks like, it's an improvement. (Though the dome might come in handy?)

VintijDroidGutzz
07-13-2012, 09:13 AM
Sorry, not yet. And really don't want to interfere with the Sideshow offering. Will post once I'm a lot further.
Yeah, no worries man. :wink1:

Wor-Gar
07-13-2012, 09:31 AM
:( God dammit... That does look a lot better.

Didn't we do this dance on the last Vader? We shouldn't have to do this again.

chRd
07-13-2012, 09:40 AM
If this really is the final release then my buck would rather go somewhere else. Im not going to spend then do that helmet mod and repurchase another cape again. No no. Might just wait on eBay for the gloves and stand.

MaulFan
07-13-2012, 09:41 AM
If only we could get the original SDCC ANH dome, that looked great.

FLOSI
07-13-2012, 09:44 AM
Didn't we do this dance on the last Vader? We shouldn't have to do this again.

And we don't even know if the height, which they say they've fixed, is acceptable....

Wor-Gar
07-13-2012, 09:52 AM
I know. I find this reveal to...suck.

We don't even see the reveal helmet nor sculpt? What's up with this? Very odd way to show off your work. Especially Vader.

HT did the same BS showing of Mark VII.

pixletwin
07-13-2012, 09:54 AM
I know. I find this reveal to...suck.

We don't even see the reveal helmet nor sculpt? What's up with this? Very odd way to show off your work. Especially Vader.

HT did the same BS showing of Mark VII.

I find just about ever facet of Sideshow's presentation this year at SDCC to suck. Crappy reveals. No chat. No webcam.

Suckitty sucks. :lecture

krieg-der-sterne
07-13-2012, 10:04 AM
wrong size with vader helmet,wrong size with snowtrooper helmet!!!
is small sexy or what??

FLOSI
07-13-2012, 10:04 AM
I know. I find this reveal to...suck.

We don't even see the reveal helmet nor sculpt? What's up with this? Very odd way to show off your work. Especially Vader.

HT did the same BS showing of Mark VII.

For sure... Why the hell is the helmet as mask even on the figure?


I find just about ever facet of Sideshow's presentation this year at SDCC to suck. Crappy reveals. No chat. No webcam.

Suckitty sucks. :lecture

I'm feeling the same... Wednesday night I was super jazzed, only to wake up Thursday morning thinking "that's it??"

Darth Waller
07-13-2012, 10:06 AM
I'm feeling the same... Wednesday night I was super jazzed, only to wake up Thursday morning thinking "that's it??"

That's why it's better to be an attendee. Always plenty to walk around and see. I went to Sideshow's booth multiple times a day last year.

FLOSI
07-13-2012, 10:20 AM
That's why it's better to be an attendee. Always plenty to walk around and see. I went to Sideshow's booth multiple times a day last year.

How often do they change, add to the displays? I know Shai just started a SS lifesize Vader thread, and that sure as heck wasn't in any pics over the last two days.

Darth Waller
07-13-2012, 10:22 AM
How often do they change, add to the displays? I know Shai just started a SS lifesize Vader thread, and that sure as heck wasn't in any pics over the last two days.

I don't remember anything popping up like that last year. Maybe they didn't have their act together this time.

pixletwin
07-13-2012, 10:23 AM
They just added it this morning. :sleep

barryo
07-13-2012, 10:25 AM
How often do they change, add to the displays? I know Shai just started a SS lifesize Vader thread, and that sure as heck wasn't in any pics over the last two days.

i wonder if he & boba will be roughly the same price.