Firefly [Archive] - Sideshow Freaks

Fritz

07-25-2006, 01:05 PM

You convinced me I should get and watch Buffy. So I bought the boxed sets for all seven season, watched them and loved the series.

You then convinced me I should get and watch Angel if I liked Buffy. So I bought the boxed sets for all five seasons, watched them and loved the series.

I went to Best Buy yesterday and picked up Firefly for $24. More to follow...

PS. I may have asked this before but does the series (Firefly) take place before or after Serenity?

pordey2

07-25-2006, 01:10 PM

I've always been under the impression that Serenity takes place after Firefly, but not sure though, only seen Serenity - and loved it!

Darth Kustomizer

07-25-2006, 01:14 PM

....After.

spaceman

07-25-2006, 01:15 PM

Yes, Serenity is after Firefly.

Having enjoyed Serenity, & heard the word of mouth on Firefly, I kept looking for it at the video store. Finally rented the whole series in a single box for $2.49 and loved it!

Production value is so high for a TV series & the dialog/script is just consistently killer. Great show, and I'd love to see more. :cool:

hairlesswookiee

07-25-2006, 01:30 PM

yeah it takes place a couple months after serentiy. its a fantastic show, just wish it could've gotten the fair chance it deserves.

TheObsoleteMan

07-25-2006, 02:03 PM

BDboystoys

07-25-2006, 02:27 PM

Serenity is the continuation of Firefly. Its after the series ended.:D

Xeno

07-25-2006, 02:30 PM

....After.

You mean "Before! " ;)

Xeno

07-25-2006, 02:32 PM

yeah it takes place a couple months after serentiy.

..and you mean "Firefly"! ;)

Serenity , the movie takes place AFTER the series Firefly.

It really helps to watch the series first and then watch the movie. You 'll get a much greater appreciation for the charachters and all the little jokes etc..

It's the ony movie I watched 2 times in 24 hrs. and a 3rd time in that same week. For me , that says a hell of a lot!

Batty

07-25-2006, 03:01 PM

A great series unfairly canceled well before its time. :monkey2

BDboystoys

07-25-2006, 11:33 PM

You really MUST watch the show before the film. As said, you'll apprieciate the characters much more.

If only we had a Firefly series still going though:monkey2

Batty

07-25-2006, 11:49 PM

You really MUST watch the show before the film. As said, you'll apprieciate the characters much more.
Yes, series first. The emotional impact of what happens in the movie will be greater.

BDboystoys

07-26-2006, 01:27 AM

Yes, series first. The emotional impact of what happens in the movie will be greater.

OH yeh.:monkey2

Viking28

07-26-2006, 02:32 AM

It takes place before Serenity, but oddly Mal's character in Serenity seems to be missing all of the character progression from the series and reverts back to his surlier attitude. Dramatic license I guess.

Whedon said thats how he wanted Mal to be, the network made him make him more softer for the series.

Ironman1188

07-26-2006, 06:33 AM

It takes place before Serenity, but oddly Mal's character in Serenity seems to be missing all of the character progression from the series and reverts back to his surlier attitude. Dramatic license I guess.

Given what happens to the characters, wouldn't it be difficult for the film to occur before the series?

TheObsoleteMan

07-26-2006, 09:24 AM

Given what happens to the characters, wouldn't it be difficult for the film to occur before the series?Yes it would. That's why I said the series takes place before the film.

Protozaius

07-27-2006, 02:19 PM

Whedon said thats how he wanted Mal to be, the network made him make him more softer for the series.

In the running commentary for the film, Joss states that Mal is more meaner in the film because he is sort of unraveling. He has been flying without the two people that brings out the best in him Book and Inara. It isn't until the incident on "Miranda" that Mal finds his moral bearings and becomes a "believer".

Darth Kustomizer

07-27-2006, 02:40 PM

You mean "Before! " ;)

No, I mean "After."

As in Serenity comes "After" Firefly.

Fritz

08-01-2006, 01:03 PM

Well I watched the first three episodes. Serenity 1 & 2 and the Train Job. I must say that so far I LIKE IT.

A few questions. I like the surely Mal. Are you guys saying he mellows later in the series. Now I'm going to have to watch the Movie again (1) doesn't he rescue Inara from the Alliance guy and (2) isn't it Book that dies in Mal's hands on the one planet? Oh and one more thing, does River get any of the kick *** powers she displays during the movie later in the Firefly series?

Batty

08-01-2006, 01:49 PM

I wouldn't say that Mal mellows as much as he begins to tolerate his passengers. Mal is much like Han Solo, he has a rough and tough exterior, but he actually cares for and is loyal to the people around him(a big theme with Joss Whedon). Relationships definitely begin to grow towards the end of the series, but given the short life-span of the show, I don't think any of the characters were given a chance to grow to the point that we see them in in the movie. Especially River. And "yes" to your other questions.

I get sad when I think about what the series could have been if it hadn't been canceled. :monkey2

scriff

08-02-2006, 03:29 AM

Just love Firefly.

I'm still hoping that they make another series (doubtful to happen I know) or at least another movie.

Well, I bloke can dream...

Scriff

LordAzrael

08-07-2006, 06:04 AM

Just watching Season 7 of Buffy now - and I'm really hoping Sideshow do a Caleb (Nathan Fillion) so that I can kitbash a Malcolm Reynolds.

Fritz

08-15-2006, 01:04 PM

achteel

08-17-2006, 05:33 AM

Well it's been over a week since I've finished with DVD one. It's funny, although I've enjoyed the first four episodes very much, I find myself finding an excuse not to watch the next episode. Since there's so few of them I don't want it to be over with so soon. With Buffy and Angel I was watching an episode or more per day, but with Firefly being so short, I'm trying to drag it out. :huh :duh

Don't drag it out. Just go ahead and watch the whole series, wait 3 months and watch it all again. It's just as good........no, it's better the second time around, because you see and hear things that you missed the first time. My better half and I watched "The Train Job" last night for probably the fourth or fifth time and we still loved it. We may not be able to get any new episodes, but we can sure enjoy the heck out of the ones we've got.

Shadow King

08-17-2006, 06:45 AM

We just watched Serenity and it was good. I am looking forward to obtaining the Firefly series and from the looks for things I will not be disappointed.

Fritz

08-19-2006, 08:57 AM

Ok someone explain to me why this show only lasted a season???

I just finished watching disc 2 and the more I watch the more I like it. It's an awesome series! :chew

scarab

08-19-2006, 09:51 AM

no none can explain why the show didn't last long!
I'm part of the fans and I'd gladly watch another show or movie or anything...

mentionning anything, and since nobody talks about it, there is a serenity comics, written by Joss himself and Brett Mathews. This comics is the missing link between the show and the movie, telling among other thing, what happened to the "hands of blue" pair....
this comics is real cool!

concerning serenity or firefly figures, I'd go for both :D

Fritz

08-25-2006, 10:50 AM

Is Kaylee just the cutest ever!!!!! She just may be my favorite character! :rock

LordAzrael

08-30-2006, 08:17 PM

Is Kaylee just the cutest ever!!!!! She just may be my favorite character! :rock

She's hot! The episode where they flashback to her joining the crew is worth watching just for the engine room scene ;) :chew

Seaward

08-31-2006, 05:11 PM

Joss Whedon has scored the trifecta of three entirely smoking hot girls that are considered "cute" by the rest of the world because he makes them act nebbishy or tomboy-ish. Willow, Kaylee, and Fred should just roll out the heartbreakers tour!

koipond

09-01-2006, 07:08 AM

Ok someone explain to me why this show only lasted a season???

sadly it, like most SF, entered the world with two strikes against it. a.) SF is a niche market b.) SF programming by it's very nature is more expensive then it's comedy/drama counterpart and many times as expensive as so called reality shows. a SF show has to do so much MORE in the ratings to off set it's higher production costs that it is next to imposable for shows to survive. add in fact that SF shows are often lumped together even though they have little in common and the failure of one(even if said show sucked) is seen as a failure of the whole genre. the same does not hold true for other TV archetypes. a George Lopez Show doesn't have to have the same rating numbers as a Everyone loves Raymond because it's cheaper to make then Raymond and because the the comedy market is huge. no one says we can't have another comedy, we already have one in the schedule or well Joey failed so no new comedies for a while.

Fritz

09-15-2006, 10:23 AM

Well I'm not very happy since I finished watching the final episode last night. :(

I WANT MORE!!!!!!

Interesting how the crew came together and the developement of River the last few episodes. LMAO at Wash with a moustache. :rotfl

I think I'll break down and end up getting the final battle River diorama from DST. I'd buy 12" figures but no one makes them. :stick

BDboystoys

09-15-2006, 04:15 PM

Something just occured to me. WHy odnt Sideshow make 'inclusive edition' figures. Then they sell as many as they make.:confused:

Darklord Dave

09-16-2006, 02:32 PM

Why not inclusive? Because they're afraid that inclusive would be less than the run on Kurgan or D'Hoffryn. With Maul they're sure they'll do mulitiple 1000s so it makes sense.

And why didn't Firefly last more than 1/2 a season? The programmers at Fox. If it had been on the UPN or WB it would have been successful.

Protozaius

09-17-2006, 02:11 PM

I dunno... I think many fellow board members are missing the point of the Inclusive Program. I might be wrong, but the Inclusive program is meant for items that have a broader appeal... so they won't exclude (i.e. piss off) a major portion of the prospective buyers. I don't think it would work for the smaller lines (i.e. Buffy, Highlander or Apes). Especially not to christen a new line like Firefly.

Take Maul, the first Inclusive figure, as a example. There was a perception before he was announced that his Exclusive Edition would sell out in record time... leaving all of the Sideshow servers fried. I think Maul's overwhelming popularity made Sideshow re-think their Exclusive Edition program. They didn't want to piss off the Star Wars collecting community by underproducing the version of the figure with that extra accessory.

You are going to see Sideshow offer item as part of an Inclusive Edition only on a rare occasion. Like Jabba... Sideshow is offering him for the VERY FIRST TIME in this scale. How many are they going to sell and how fast? I think that the program was created to calm down the frenzy that is PPO.

From my way of thinking, if the Inclusive Edtion program were to be applied to the smaller lines, it would only save the manufacturer from over producing an item... from being stuck with a bunch of unwanted product in their warehouses. However there's no insurance for manufacturer that there would be enough orders within the ordering window to actually warrant the figure's actual production.

Maybe the Inclusive program would unfortunately reveal just how small the pond of interested buyers REALLY is. :monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2

galactiboy

09-18-2006, 12:53 AM

Also the problem with an inclusive order for a new line is that a lot of the people who would buy the figure might not be aware of its existence. Just look at Jedi Luke, Star Wars fans are pretty fanatical about collectibles and there were a lot of 1/6 collectors out in the dark when Luke came and went.

If there was an inclusive of Mal, there could be a lot of fans who might not know about his existence until the Inclusive ordering window was over. I do think that there would be enough interest though to at least get the main characters, at least one a con-variant produced, and maybe a reaver.

Darth Waller

09-18-2006, 11:29 AM

If you have Universal HD, they will begin showing Firefly in high definition on Sunday, September 24th.

I have never seen this show, so I plan on recording them on my HD DVR and watching them. :o

FrankenFan

09-18-2006, 12:38 PM

...the Inclusive program is meant for items that have a broader appeal...Maybe the Inclusive program would unfortunately reveal just how small the pond of interested buyers REALLY is. :monkey2 :monkey2 :monkey2
Bingo.

http://www.kurtgoldzung.com/MB/wvb.jpg

Doctor_B

09-18-2006, 12:48 PM

Our local Target has Firefly for about $20 with tax. I picked it up on Saturday--not sure if this price is at all Targets or just the one in Chattanooga, TN.

I can't wait to watch it--I have always liked Buffy so I am sure this will be well done.

-Doctor B

You convinced me I should get and watch Buffy. So I bought the boxed sets for all seven season, watched them and loved the series.

You then convinced me I should get and watch Angel if I liked Buffy. So I bought the boxed sets for all five seasons, watched them and loved the series.

I went to Best Buy yesterday and picked up Firefly for $24. More to follow...

PS. I may have asked this before but does the series (Firefly) take place before or after Serenity?

Darth Caedus

09-18-2006, 06:32 PM

If you have Universal HD, they will begin showing Firefly in high definition on Sunday, September 24th.

I have never seen this show, so I plan on recording them on my HD DVR and watching them. :o

It's a really good show. Cancelled before its time. Watch all the episodes, then watch Serenity. Great movie.

Fritz

09-21-2006, 08:46 AM

So I finally re-watched Serenity after completing Firefly last week and the viewing experience was definitely different. I can accept Shepherd Book's death but I'm not comfortable with Wash's.

I'm just curious who the new pilot will be when they revisit this series since it's so popular. :tap ;)

Protozaius

09-21-2006, 09:24 AM

BDboystoys

09-21-2006, 01:57 PM

The ending of the movie seems to hint that it might be River.

I had hoped that the movie would put an end to their story arc so they can finally leave Serenity... but it didn't turn out that way. I think the arc was a good one, but I think it sort of ran it's course.

Maybe Joss has something else planned for them that would necessitate them saying on Serenity for a while. We might never know. :monkey3 :monkey3 :monkey3

COnsidering the fact he wanted to make a Second film, then I guess it makes alot of sence to kave it continue on Serenity. But really, you CANT take the ship from MAl and the crew. Its there home its like a 10th character.

Protozaius

09-21-2006, 05:09 PM

When I wrote "they", I meant River and Simon. I've not been a big fan of their story arc... it served the series and movie well. I thought it would be great if they moved on and found more passengers that would take them to different places. The Simon and River story arc, I believe has reached it's logical conclusion.

In NO way did I mean that Mal should leave Serenity. :monkey3 :monkey3 :monkey3

YoNoSe

09-30-2006, 08:43 PM

Hello all! This is my first post!

I'm a recent addition to the SSC fanbase, having finally (mostly) forsaken the 3 3/4" Star Wars line now that SSC is working thier magic with the license.

Being a Firefly fan, and encouraged by willowswarlok's Zoe, I figured I'd share my "in progress" Mal. I realize he has a long way to go, but he's finally starting to look like something besides Sculpey with fingerprints so I felt like celebrating.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/YoNoSe/mal3.jpg

Any advice/critiques/comments from fellow fans would be more than welcome!

galactiboy

09-30-2006, 09:08 PM

:fireworks :welcome :fireworks

Nice I can definitely see Mal in there... you know there would be a lot of interesting parties if you can make casts of a decent headsculpt :monkey5 :monkey5

YoNoSe

09-30-2006, 09:22 PM

Thanks!

I started this because anytime I try to costumize something, it gets made by a real company (my last custom attempt was an animated Clone Wars gunship...literally the day after I started it Hasbro released pics of thiers).

So, hopefully Sideshow will step up and embarrass me with a killer Mal figure.

olvidadero

10-01-2006, 04:14 AM

That sculpt looks great so far. Can't wait to see it fiished, YoNoSe! You guys are such artists!

However, I sincerely hope that SSC aquire the license.

YoNoSe

10-03-2006, 09:59 AM

A little progress...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/YoNoSe/mal6.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/YoNoSe/mal7.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/YoNoSe/mal5.jpg

olvidadero

10-04-2006, 05:36 AM

I can see the resemblance, good job!

And kinda off-topic, you can call me an idiot, but everytime I see Wash

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3473/wash150x200bz0.jpg

I think of this:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2963/elfragleqx0.jpg

:D :D Am I the only one? I probably am... :rotfl

Seaward

10-04-2006, 03:34 PM

Welcome to the Board, and kudos on the awesome sculpting talents. I think a real nice likeness is starting to take shape there! It looks more like movie Mal, who seemed more angular than TV show Mal, very nice work!!!

and in response to your question olvidadero:

"I am a Fraggle on the wind, watch how I soar"

YoNoSe

10-04-2006, 05:14 PM

I think Alan Tudyk actually is part Fraggle.

I was working mainly off of a Movie Mal reference, but now I'm moving towards floppy hair Firefly Mal. Who knows where he'll wind up, but I'm really enjoying this head sculpting business...thanks for the feedback!!!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/YoNoSe/mal82.jpg